31 March, 2006

Degradation, the Jewish Specialty of Specialties

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[Sitcoms degrade nations, perhaps more than anything, as they are watched night-in, night-out by large numbers. They teach, or the jews who teach spellbound Aryans through attractive Aryan actors, that sex and money are the only motivations, and your husband/wife/child will turn on you the instant turning gratifies one of these drives.]

In order to be conquered …

Nations which have high ethical tone are difficult to conquer. Their loyalties are hard to shake, their allegiance to their leaders is fanatical, and what they usually call their “spiritual integrity” cannot be violated by duress.

Psychopolitics

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CHAPTER VIII

DEGRADATION, SHOCK AND ENDURANCE

Degradation and conquest are companions.

In order to be conquered, a nation must be degraded, either by acts of war, by being overrun, by being forced into humiliating treaties of peace, of by the treatment of her populace under the armies of the conqueror. However, degradation can be accomplished much more insidiously and much more effectively by consistent and continual defamation.

Defamation is the best and foremost weapon of Psychopolitics on the broad field. Continual and constant degradation of national leaders, national institutions, national practices, and national heroes must be systematically carried out, but this is the chief function of Communist Party Members, in general, not the psychopolitician.

The realm of defamation and degradation, of the psychopolitician, is Man himself. By attacking the character and morals of Man himself, and by bringing about, through contamination of youth, a general degraded feeling, command of the populace is facilitated to a very marked degree.

There is a curve of degradation which leads downward to a point where the endurance of an individual is almost at end, and any sudden action toward him will place him in a state of shock. Similarly, a soldier held prisoner can be abused, denied, defamed, and degraded until the slightest motion on the part of his captors will cause him to flinch. Similarly, the slightest word on the part of his captors will cause him to obey, or vary his loyalties and beliefs. Given sufficient degradation, a prisoner can be caused to murder his fellow countrymen in the same stockade. Experiments on German prisoners have lately demonstrated that only after seventy days of filthy food, little sleep, and nearly untenable quarters, that the least motion toward the prisoner would bring about a state of shock beyond his endurance threshold, and would cause him to him to hypnotically receive anything said to him. Thus, it is possible, in an entire stockade of

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prisoners, to the number of thousands, to bring about a state of complete servile obedience, and without the labour of personally addressing each one, to pervert their loyalties and implant in them adequate commands to insure their future conduct, even when released to their own people.

By lowering the endurance of a person, a group, or nation, and by constant degradation and defamation, it is possible to induce, thus, a state of shock which will receive adequately any command given.

The first thing to be degraded in any nation is the state of Man, himself. Nations which have high ethical tone are difficult to conquer. Their loyalties are hard to shake, their allegiance to their leaders is fanatical, and what they usually call their “spiritual integrity” cannot be violated by duress. It is not efficiend to attack a nation in such a frame of mind. It is the basic purpose of Psychopolitics to reduce that state of mind to a point where it can be ordered and enslaved. Thus, the first target is Man, himself. He can be degraded from a spiritual being to an animalistic reaction pattern. He must think of himself as an animal, capable only of animalistic reactions. He must no longer think of himself, or his fellows, as capable of “spiritual endurance”, or nobility.


  • 39 Responses to “Degradation, the Jewish Specialty of Specialties”

    1. A. Says:

      America was taken over in the 30’s and even in some layers before then, and yet no one would have claimed America in the 30’s or before had a low ethical tone, or at least not any lower than at any other point in time. Indeed, people’s “high ethical tones” can be used for debasement and to enslave them. See The Protocol’s of Zion for a much more profound thesis on how a nation, in fact a whole civilisation of nations, maybe conquered.

    2. Carl Loerbs Says:

      Alex wrote: “By lowering the endurance of a person, a group, or nation, and by constant degradation and defamation, it is possible to induce, thus, a state of shock which will receive adequately any command given.”

      The Patty Hearst situation comes to mind. According to a book I read on this event (it may have been hers, I don’t remember), she was subjected to repeated defamation, degradation, and outright physical abuse that she was completely transformed from a yuppie princess into a bank-robbing gang moll. Today, this is sometimes referred to as the “Patty Hearst Syndrome”.

    3. apollonian Says:

      Judaism Victorious Must Lead To Its Decline–We Pray
      (Apollonian, 31 Mar 06)

      I’d say the West is suffering fm a serious and intensive heretical-complex, foundation of MAMMONIST hedonist culture, including especially neo-Pelagianism fm Rousseau, Immanuel Kant, and English Utilitarians, going back to eighteenth century. Thus the effete middle class became overpopulated (and still is) with weaklings seeking to be “good,” the result of inferiority complex so brilliantly exploited by such Pelagianism. Thus by means of such Pelagian disease (and HUBRIS) the Jews have thrived, the disease-of-opportunity, and other heresies have arisen aside fm and built upon neo-Pelagianism: (a) non- and anti-racism, and perhaps worst of all, (b) non-antisemitical Christianity which is like non-alcoholic beer or wine.

      CONCLUSION: As people learn about Jews, however, they’ll learn why Christianity came about as (Hegelian) antithesis, an effort to counteract the Jew disease/affliction. People must re-discover the antisemitism which is plainly present in New Testament; they need to learn how to read. Honest elections and death to the Fed. Apollonian

    4. eduardo, S. B. Says:

      Psychopolitics is a must read for anyone wanting to understand what is happening in the Western world. The degradation of society starts with targeting Man; for patriarchy is the fabric from whence great civilizations are built. The Man provides structure not only to the framework of his family, but is a reflection of his culture perpetuated to the next generation as well. To demean and debase his belief structures, loyalty, heritage, and history is to burn down his house and leave his wife and children unprotected. Women and children become wards of the State. In the case of child custody, all of the attributes of psychopolitics are used in the courts to undermine and debase the Man; the fabric of our culture.

      A woman’s happiness is found through love and welfare. A strong male provider is the convincing attribute in meeting all her needs. Through this, their children are most assured culture and kinsmanship. Without it there is no individual, tradition, or race. -eduardo

      Read my four part series called the “Age of Female Sentinals� in the Alex Linder’s VNN archives.

      -eduardo, S. B.

    5. A. Says:

      “for patriarchy is the fabric from whence great civilizations are built.”

      Yeah, so me the great Balck, Islamic and Jewish civilisations. It not too often falls to a woman’s lot to keep a family together. I’m not debasing man, but I’m not going to debase women either. One supports the other. Without women there are no men, without men no women. And you say the belief structure, loyalty, heritage and history is his and imply not hers, which is bullshit. And where is a man’s happiness found?

      I come from the Western European tradition in which women had their place in the councils, the Celtic and Germanic, and even in the Roamn and Greek they were far from absent, look at the hetairai and any number of Roman matrons and the ritual practises of both cultures.

    6. A. Says:

      Fuck that jewish shit.

    7. A. Says:

      You tell the women Western Civilisation is not theirs and does not belong to them and what are you doing but alienating them from its defense. In my country the women maintained the fort while the men went out to fight and if the fort was attacked, dug in to its defense, suffering want and deprivation and numerous other pains great and small. This all was as much the work of their hands as ours, and alienating them from it and saying it doesn’t belong to them is just so… jew.

    8. eduardo, S. B. Says:

      Interesting responses. Noone has debased women though. You read into something that doesn’t exist. However, you should look at the heuristic of history, not the exception. Yes, there have been women figures in history that have been in positions of power. But, don’t let that cloud your thinking. Western culture has always been based on patriarchal precepts despite positions of authority given women. The whole notion of matriarchal society is for the most part fictional. The promotion of it’s existence is found in jewish/feminist/lesbian circles. Women defending the “fort” or the home per se, ‘while the man is away’ doesn’t change anything. Better understanding of male thinking versus female thinking would greatly help you understand my missive above. Simon Sheppard of Heretical.com presents some very good insights. Try reading my “Age of Female Sentinels” series or “The Gynaeceum” to get a better understanding. They are found in Linder’s archives. There, I reference several studies for your better understanding. If you are alluding that there is some form of equality between men and women, this is analogous of claiming a duck is equal to a chicken. The genders have very different strengths. One example is that males heuristically have a survivor mindset whereas females heuristically prefer security (Taylor, Klein, et al). The sexes dovetail and are dependent on the other. It is a jewish tactic to faust the sophist preaching of “equality” between the sexes. This notion of equality (or egalitaritarian) has caused tremendous devisiveness between men and women and the failed results can be seen in the workplace, military, police, etc.

    9. A. Says:

      Not so, it is you who don’t understand. I am not considering the exception. I am considering women as they are, not as men, but as women. You seem incapable of this. You view it from a male point of view and are incapable of viewing it from a woman’s, or considering that you can’t place yourself in their position.

      The West has always produced a different kind of woman than the darkies, that is just the truth. You trying to thrust them into the mould of the darkies isn’t going to work. All you are doing is alienating them and you said:

      “The Man provides structure not only to the framework of his family, but is a reflection of his culture perpetuated to the next generation as well. To demean and debase his belief structures, loyalty, heritage, and history is to burn down his house and leave his wife and children unprotected.”

      What you did WAS degrading women in their role within our traditional societies. That is jewish. All the rest of your piffle is exactly that, where you name yourself and try to pin it onto me. Maybe you’ll finally wake up, and if to do that you have to pin all your old hang-ups on me, well I can live with that.

      Our women do have a legitimate grevience, and since we wouldn’t listen to them, the jew did and snuck its way in. We have to take as much of the blame as it. See The Protocols of the Elders of Zion to see they consider the average White man in the same manner you consider our woman folk. You want to drive a wedge and not consider things in toto, but weigh things in a subjective balance and find one wanting. Well the otherside of the balance is wanting too. Try taking a holistic approach.

    10. Harry Tuttle Says:

      Females have way too much influence now given their mass/brains ratio to be anything but an enormous hindrance doing anything but fulfilling their natural obligation which to have children for white males. That’s a full time job in itself. Females desiring careers post-TEOTWAWKI should be nailed into pine boxes and shipped into nigger-held territories in exchange for fresh fruit and chitlins. They can do whatever they want with them when they get them – and so they shall.

    11. A. Says:

      Well, with that level of ignorance I can see why we are steaming a head. Consider if it were not for the incompetence and blindness of both men and women, they would not HAVE to work outside the home if they didn’t feel like it once married, but further if man was more creative and home orientated quite often, at least more often than now, the man and wife could work side-by-side. But no. It’s the Wal-mart and every other piece of junk. If it is man’s job to lead well White man you have done a really fucked up job of it. Why is that?

      “Females have way too much influence now given their mass/brains ratio to be anything but an enormous hindrance doing anything but fulfilling their natural obligation which to have children for white males.”

      And what the hell is life? Do we live to work, or work to live? And is it not best to find some way of making living itself pay. The move to the cities cut us off from the natural rhythms and relationships, understandings, and now the cosmopolitan mirrors back a very distorted view of life.

      The industrial revolution caused a great amount of imbalance, pain and disharmony that is still being felt. Instead of dealing with things in a wide encompassing view we have the narrow man, rigid and stupid as all views dealing with life are when narrow and rigid. The artificial man who only understands things in terms of surface necessity. Thank Goddess for women who break up such confining orthodoxy. Indeed was it right of philosophers to picture Wisdom as feminine. How sorrowful to consider they didn’t understand why but by instinct.

      Vanity all is vanity, it is said, and man is no less the vain creature than his other half, though on what account it remains to be seen.

    12. A. Says:

      The man goes to his job and bows and scrapes and then wants someone to come bow and scrape before him, and thus defines human misery. The Calvinists with their heaven through work, it is right and holy to be exploited by the money men for thus thou enter heaven, and then those exploited taking it home and trying to set up their own relationship of the same order.

      Ah, fuck that. Time to throw off such jewish crap and men to be men and women women. Honour, pride and dignity all the way around. Those who slam christianity are often the most ardent disciples of its worst features. Oh the irony, oh the humanity. Thank goodness some women stood up and said I will not allow you to treat me as you allow yourself to be treated! But did the men listen? No in most cases. And unfortunately the jew got in and said look at your husband bowing and scraping, instead of bowing and scraping to him, why not bow and scrape before the idol he postrates himself before? And why not? One master is equal to another.

      Get off your goddamn knees and bow before no idol, but stand forward in the bright and blessed beauty of life itself in all its wonder and mystery. But who has the strength? Easier just to bow and scrape and complain when you cannot find someone to bow and scrape before you.

    13. alex Says:

      Too much listening to women left us open to jews. Read the Feminization of American Society. Putting women on pedestals, pretending they are more moral, more sensitive than men, led to liberalization and christian social gospel that was tailor-made for influxing jews to grab and run with, and they did. Today you can’t write a song or a tv show or a joke criticizing women – it’s all but illegal. Everything caters to them: anything sharp or logical is “unfriendly” or “violent’ or “hateful” or “hurtful.” Even men talk this rot nowadays.

      Women follow the going pattern, whether set by Aryans or by jews, but putting women on pedestals is the wrong way to go. It leads by degree to where we are today.

    14. alex Says:

      Try this column by Florence King…

      THEY SAY a drowning person sees his whole life flash before him as he goes down for the third time. The feminization of America is having the same effect on me.

      The chain of reasoning in date-rape cases brings back my grandmother’s lecture on the proper way for a lady to walk past a barbershop.

      “Always look straight ahead. If you look in, the men will think you’re looking in.”

      “But if I looked in, I would be looking in.”

      “Yes, but not really.”

      Whenever I watch debates about women in combat, I begin hurtling through time the moment a worried general utters the words “male bonding” and “unit cohesion.” The brass had better worry; anyone who has ever been in a girls’ gym class has heard a snippy little voice say, “I’m not going to throw the ball to her.”

      Dee Dee Myers’s disjointed press briefings? I am back once more in a Fifties dorm, listening to a panicky coed as she tries to figure out when her last period started.

      “It’s my middle, but it isn’t really my middle because it’s February, and that messes everything up because it’s so short. I think it was the day you traded that green sack dress you hated for Flo’s blue shrug–no, no, wait a minute, it was before that, because Flo wore the shrug to the movies the night I had cramps. What movie did we see? If I knew that, I could call the theater and find out when it played. Oh, I know! It was the one where Deborah Kerr saved the boy from being a sissy–no, no, wait! I take that back. It was the one where Charlton Heston was Andrew Jackson, and Yul Brynner did … um, something, I forget what, and there was this big battle.”

      Just about everything brings back memories of how I got started in writing. The 2,476th feature on mammograms, the 4,728th segment on unwed mothers, the eternal “special” hosted by Connie Chung, Meryl Streep’s face as she discusses her “films”–expose me to any one of these and I will start reciting verbatim from the 1958 Writer’s Market:

      True-confessions stories must be about subjects of interest to women: marital discord, adultery, problem children, alcoholism, insecurity, anxiety, depression, nervous breakdowns, accidents, illness, surgery, and sudden death. Upbeat ending essential. No humor; our readers take life seriously. Length 3,000 to 5,000; payment 5 cents per word. Enclose SASE.

      The first story I sold was called, “I Committed Adultery in a Diabetic Coma.” I think of it every time a Women’s Health Special Supplement falls out of the newspaper.

      The feminization of America has progressed so far that sometimes I have a hard time telling whether I’m watching the news on CNN or a three-hankie weeper on American Movie Classics. Barry Goldwater’s sudden espousal of gay rights, or Barbara Stanwyck yearning for social approval? George Bush sabotaging himself to preserve his “place in history,” or Lana Turner agonizing over What People Will Think? The scandaltainted politician who decides to retire “to spend more time with my family,” or Joan Crawford growling, “I’ll do anything for those kids, you hear me, anything”?

      It’s especially confusing to watch old movies in the era of apologies. A nation so nice-nellied that it sees nothing odd about apologizing for homeless gypsies has only one apology left, and we just used it. In October, the Senate passed a resolution apologizing to Hawaii for overthrowing Queen Liliuokalani in 1893. It finally happened: we apologized to ourselves. Is that Joan Fontaine cringing through Rebecca or not?

      I FOUND myself aboard another time capsule when the Houston Oilers fined football star David Williams for skipping out on a game in order to attend the birth of his child. The Sensitivity Patrol led by Anna Quindlen flew into the usual hysterical rage, but I flew back to the 1940s and sat on the floor beside our huge Philco console with my ear pressed against the brocaded vent so as not to miss a word of Abbott & Costello.

      This particular show was as wonderfully wacky as the others. Not once did Lou Costello give any indication that anything was wrong. Not until the next day did we learn that he had gone on the air only hours after receiving word that his son had drowned. No one called him “insensitive” for leaving his wife alone while he made the whole country laugh; in the flood of admiring editorials that followed, one word stood out: “trouper.”

      The feminization of America has made emotions sacrosanct while condemning as cold and unfeeling rigorous concepts such as duty and honor. Propelled by incessant hosannas to woman’s “finer” this and “softer” that, we make emotional decisions instead of ethical ones and congratulate ourselves for having “heart.”

      We need to get a grip on ourselves while there’s still time. A bracing antidote to feminization is Mary Wollstonecraft, the Ur-feminist of the rational eighteenth century, who knew that political correctness is nothing more than female touchiness writ large. Said she: “I wish to persuade women to endeavor to acquire strength, both of mind and body, and to convince them that the soft phrases, susceptibility of heart, delicacy of sentiment, and refinement of taste, are almost synonymous with epithets of weakness.”

    15. alex Says:

      Disagree with a woman, you’re “rude.”

      All women think this way. All of them. Some of the tougher ones can disguise it, but they ALL think this way.

      There’s nothing you can do but ban them from politics, where they don’t belong because they’re positively dangerous.

      Losing the good opinion of properly brainwashed women is one of many threats the jew’s socity of the double clutch proffers to the white man. Talk “hate,” no pussy for you. Maybe a jail cell where you can be raped by niggers.

    16. alex Says:

      Jew policies-for-goyim might be thought of us as the scientific application of female feelingways in order to produce a social order in which females are never contradicted.

      Women on tv always get the last laugh. Always. Every single time.

      Every possible thing is done to make white males double clutch, to induce doubt and confusion. The white man is trained always to question what his deepest instincts tell him, to rely solely on external gods of stage and screen.

    17. alex Says:

      This is the book. It is too long and in parts quite boring, but its thesis stands.

      http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0374525587/102-5825763-7410541?v=glance&n=283155

      Feminization made consumers of us all, December 27, 2005
      Reviewer: J. R. Mason (Houston, TX United States) – See all my reviews
      (REAL NAME)
      This is a splendid book-Douglas shows how the loss of Christian faith, combined with the rise of industrialism, gave ministers and women (with too much time on their hands) common cause in seeking to “influence” culture. Thus was born the age of advertising and modern consumerism.

      American consumerism couldn’t have happened without the feminization of America that she describes. “Get it now”, “You deserve it!”, “Picture yourself in our _____________, enjoying your ____________…” This art was developed by women and preachers who had no power other than persuasion. If you doubt it, read this book and you’ll come away convinced, in my opinion.

      The first half of the book describes clerical disestablishment and feminine disestablishment (e.g., loss of power) as the main developments in her thesis. Both ministers and mothers had great power in America until the early 1800’s; the loss of theology caused clerics to become ornaments–the rise of “jobs” for the men meant that their women didn’t really contribute as full partners, as they had on the homestead. So both women and preachers started writing, using the pen to influence the culture. Douglas is at her best here–the last 1/3 of the book gets somewhat esoteric and didn’t really contribute that much to my understanding of her thesis.

      Somewhat “intellectual”, but yet a very strong work. Definitely worth reading.

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      Tiresome, Uninformative, September 4, 2005
      Reviewer: Thomas N. Casey (Buffalo, WY USA) – See all my reviews
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      Bought this book as a spinoff to a seminar hoping for some insight into a complex subject. The common cause made between ineffectual clergy of the late 18th century and American women was interesting, but then the author lost herself (and her theme) in her exhausting review of obscure, forgettable literature. The phrase “deadly dull” comes to mind.

      The book is more notable for what it does not address than for what it does.

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      7 of 8 people found the following review helpful:
      masterly, April 29, 2003
      Reviewer: F. P. Barbieri “Fabio Paolo Barbieri” (London UK) – See all my reviews
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      One can only imagine the work that has gone into this staggering piece of intellectual history – whose axis is the unforeseeable and fateful rise of the female public in American intellectual life, and contemporaneously the collapse of the old, muscular style of Protestant religiosity and intellect – from the kind and number of sources the author uses. She has apparently trawled through reams and piles of obscure newspapers and magazines, familiarized herself with writing most of us would be glad to avoid, learned to distinguish the various strands of an intellectual and publishing life which is, to modern America, as alien as imperial China or early Sumer. The result is tremendous: not only a resurrection of a past age that does it honour and justice (if anything, one seems to perceive, in this female scholar, a certain sympathy – even nostalgia – for the utra-male, activist, iron-faced world of the old Puritan thinkers, post-Jonathan Edwards and his likes), but a flood of light on the origins of our (not exclusively American) world and society. This simply cannot be praised too much; future historians will not be able to prescind from it.

    18. alex Says:

      her analysis primarily on the public writings and lives of literary women and liberal clergy in the Northeast, she argues that they created woman’s sphere in response to their own “disestablishment”-ministers disestablished. from politics and women from positions in colonial homes where they could wield real authority. The realm they created was one of “influence,” not power; women were supposed to work subconsciously on the lives of others through moral and emotional appeal. She suggests further that this realm was sentimental and “narcissistic,” encouraging a self-involvement which refused to recognize the real situation of women and clergy in the larger society. For male ministers and other writers who promulgated the sentimental mode, it represented a disturbing (even to them) and neurotic rejection of masculinity, as they defined themselves increasingly in feminine terms. Douglas also treats two examples of protest against sentimentalization, Margaret Fuller and Herman Melville (the chapter on the latter being exceptional in its brilliance and power), showing their ultimate frustration in their attempts to counter the prevailing tendencies in American culture.

      There are a few weak spots in her presentation. It is questionable whether women in colonial times wielded the authority Douglas suggests, and her case is based only on a few examples. Cott’s book argues that even then, women were defined as in “subjection” to men (though not yet as “inferior”), and it seems likely that in those times too, any power they had was really only “influence.” This is only a caution against attributing too much to the “Age of Homespun” as Douglas calls it-to which we cannot return in any case. Second, in her treatment of the clergy, she does not consider (nor does she intend to) men of the evangelical wing of Protestantism, many of whom, like Finney and Moody, turned away from careers in the men’s world of law and business in order to devote themselves to religion. Moody especially, like Billy Sunday whom Douglas mentions in her epilogue, tried to create a religion for men as well as women while remaining within the sentimental mode. The evangelical clergy require a separate treatment. For the liberals, however, her treatment is very persuasive.

      Douglas’s description is interwoven with a further and highly significant argument: The feminization of culture provided the foundation for an emerging mass consumer society. The grandeur of Puritan theology gave way to sentimental fiction which only flattered the reader and required no thought. A sense of history disappeared as popular literature preoccupied itself with the private realm of domestic affairs, the linearity of time being lost in the cyclical movements of biological circumstance. This culminated in the “domestication of death,” in which the dead became near and accessible, the “remorseless screws” on coffins being replaced by locks and keys. The afterlife was a replica of the ideal proto-suburban home; the cemetery became a tourist attraction. This preoccupation with the private, emotional, biological realm as opposed to the public, intellectual, and historical,
      462 – The Bonds of Womanhood: “Woman’s Sphere” in New England, 1780-1835 & The Feminization of American Culture

      is, Douglas argues, the fundamental problem with American culture. Its endless repetition and sameness is exemplified today in television and advertising, just as it was in popular literature of the nineteenth century.

      Here I think Douglas is precisely on target, but her argument for the connection with consumerism could be made even stronger. She makes allusions to the concern shown in domestic novels over property and ownership, and provides an example or two of heroines who invested their emotions in the activity of shopping. Yet as Cott observes in her book, it was a dictum even of Cotton Mather in the seventeenth century that women “Spend (or� Save) what others Get.” For women to be consumers was nothing new. What was new was the sharp division between consumption and production and the emergence of uniformity as a value, the latter deriving from a perversion of democratic ideals, the exaltation of the “average” which Douglas discusses, and from the insistence that people not only feel (in the emotional realm of women) but feel alike, for feeling was the bond of feminized society. Further, I suspect that consumerism sprang from the division of the private realm into two poles-the “passions” on the one hand and “property” on the other. Consumerism was the mode of exchange which transformed one into the other, with property, things, becoming objectifications of emotions (as Douglas also suggests) and emotions being on sale in the marketplace. This is not to criticize Douglas’s point, only to say that her argument about consumerism as it now stands rests on hints and suggestions. A full analysis would require an investigation into the ideology of property, the other half of the private realm, as thorough as Douglas has produced for the ideology of the passions.

      http://theologytoday.ptsem.edu/jan1978/v34-4-bookreview3.htm

    19. alex Says:

      Women hate it when people disagree, as it endangers bonds, and they’re all about networking. Anti-“hate” laws will seem to them a nice parallel to encouraging everbody to play nice and get along.

      Differences of any kind threat uniformity, agreement, common feeling. Thus you get the woman admissions officer in the other thread favoring the mediocre female over the highly intelligent male, and justifying it on the basis of abilities she simply reads into the female’s application.

      If women run things, everything will be nice – the niceness born of inertness. No differences, no freedom – no movement. We’d still be living in grass huts, as Paglia said.

    20. alex Says:

      Society needs women to think as little as it needs them to fight wars. Government encouragement of “educated” women is merely a cover for government’s real interest: preventing the rise of a competing minority – ie, white males to challenge the ruling jew/traitor elite.

    21. alex Says:

      Women are humorless – even some women see that. That’s just another form that following patterns takes. Humor is based in discrepancies and incongruties — seeing how things are vs how they should or could be. Women take pains to cover up differences, and present a uniform, socially acceptable face – literally with makeup, figuratively by adopting the regnant opinion word-strings. The only original things women can produce are baby men.

    22. A. Says:

      Blah, blah, blah, more meaningless sound bites. I’ve known more humorless men than women. Women appreciate humor, that is why it is known as an aphrodesiac.

      As for putting women on pedestals that is the same meaningless crap pedalled by the same insanity. Just a different class of insanity that deprived them of their carnal natures and so increased the use of prostitutes.

      You won’t deal with women as women and thus regain your authority as a man and then whine and cry like the little pussy boys you are when they are forced to let their spirit flow down unnatural channels. So then it comes down to might is right, just like any moron and again understanding is lost.

      Fuck, I can’t believe the amount of mis-education and pointing the finger at everyone but yourself going on. The jew got his hooks in you, and you are all misdirected. I want things my way whines the little baby slamming his tiny fists on his high stand, chocolate pudding all over his face and running down his bib.

      I know men. I am one. You can’t fool me with all this blather. I know our blindness and guilt in the matter. Time to start taking some responsibility and learning not to be so self centred. The “otherworldly” is all well and good when it seems to get you what you want (tho’ in truth it doesn’t) but on every other issue it’s a “disaster”.

      Your hypocrisy is overwhelming and just shows the level of shit still clinging to your clay. You judeo-christians are a laugh riot! )o(

      See my answer to the review on VNNF about what really feminized society. It goes back further than what that allows.

      Just the sheer breadth of ignorance is amazing.

    23. Bolg Says:

      “…You view it from a male point of view and are incapable of viewing it from a woman’s, or considering that you can’t place yourself in their position…”

      Are you really saying this? A man “seeing things” from a woman’s point of view, usually is on all four, looking over his shoulder, and has two pairs of testicles. Known scientific fact, that. What IS a “woman’s point of view”, anyway?

    24. A. Says:

      See, some men don’t have a sense of humour even when they think they do. )o(

      I never said man could see things from a woman’s point of view. But it an interesting exercise in empathy to try and then figure out you cannot approach it. They are different and that has to be respected. We cannot impose our own male view of what we think they should be and demand they live up to it. Our view of what they should be. We must give them the freedom to be what we cannot phathom, and seek mutual understanding and enjoy the difference for goodness sakes. Communication is vital.

      You just mis-read in order to try and justify. Some would claim that to be a feminine trait. How many testicles do you have?

    25. A. Says:

      And if you want to know a woman’s point of view on something go and talk to a group of them. They won’t bite and you might learn to see things in a different way if you have an open mind.

    26. A. Says:

      CREON
      Yet I would have thee know that o’er-stubborn spirits are most often humbled; ’tis the stiffest iron, baked to hardness in the fire, that thou shalt oftenest see snapped and shivered; and I have known horses that show temper brought to order by a little curb; there is no room for pride when thou art thy neighbour’s slave.-This girl was already versed in insolence when she transgressed the laws that had been set forth; and, that done, lo, a second insult,-to vaunt of this, and exult in her deed.

      Now verily I am no man, she is the man, if this victory shall rest with her, and bring no penalty. No! be she sister’s child, or nearer to me in blood than any that worships Zeus at the altar of our house,-she and her kinsfolk shall not avoid a doom most dire; for indeed I charge that other with a like share in the plotting of this burial.

      And summon her-for I saw her e’en now within,-raving, and not mistress of her wits. So oft, before the deed, the mind stands self-convicted in its treason, when folks are plotting mischief in the dark. But verily this, too, is hateful,-when one who hath been caught in wickedness then seeks to make the crime a glory.

      ANTIGONE
      Wouldst thou do more than take and slay me?

      CREON
      No more, indeed; having that, I have all.

      ANTIGONE
      Why then dost thou delay? In thy discourse there is nought that pleases me,-never may there be!-and so my words must needs be unpleasing to thee. And yet, for glory-whence could I have won a nobler, than by giving burial to mine own brother? All here would own that they thought it well, were not their lips sealed by fear. But royalty, blest in so much besides, hath the power to do and say what it will.

      CREON
      Thou differest from all these Thebans in that view.

      ANTIGONE
      These also share it; but they curb their tongues for thee.

      CREON
      And art thou not ashamed to act apart from them?

      ANTIGONE
      No; there is nothing shameful in piety to a brother.

      CREON
      Was it not a brother, too, that died in the opposite cause?

      ANTIGONE
      Brother by the same mother and the same sire.

      CREON
      Why, then, dost thou render a grace that is impious in his sight?

      ANTIGONE
      The dead man will not say that he so deems it.

      CREON
      Yea, if thou makest him but equal in honour with the wicked.

      ANTIGONE
      It was his brother, not his slave, that perished.

      CREON
      Wasting this land; while he fell as its champion.

      ANTIGONE
      Nevertheless, Hades desires these rites.

      CREON
      But the good desires not a like portion with the evil.

      ANTIGONE
      Who knows but this seems blameless in the world below?

      CREON
      A foe is never a friend-not even in death.

      ANTIGONE
      Tis not my nature to join in hating, but in loving.

      CREON
      Pass, then, to the world of the dead, and, it thou must needs love, love them. While I live, no woman shall rule me.

      Wise old Sophocles eh? I don’t suggest anyone bother reading Antigone, the nuances would be too much for the judeo mind exhibited here.

    27. alex Says:

      Blah, blah, blah. Pay attention, A., your losing it.

      Now, here’s an example of where educating women leads:

      Dykes resent straight women
      … seek to punish them
      “A highly-educated woman who chooses to stay at home and not to work – that is destruction of capital,�

      http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/946

      Dutch Feminazis Want to Punish Educated Mothers

      From the desk of Alexandra Colen on Fri, 2006-03-31 11:49

      Sharon Dijksma, a leading parliamentarian of the Dutch Labour Party (PvdA) wants to penalise educated stay-at-home women. “A highly-educated woman who chooses to stay at home and not to work – that is destruction of capital,� she said in an interview last week. “If you receive the benefit of an expensive education at society’s expense, you should not be allowed to throw away that knowledge unpunished.�

      Hence her proposal to recover part of the cost of their education from highly-educated women who decide not to seek paid work. Between 2001 and 2005 the number of Dutch women aged between 15 and 65 who were out on the labour market rose from 55.9 to 58.7 per cent. Dijksma says she wants to stimulate more women to join the work force. In the municipal elections earlier this month the PvdA became the biggest party in the Netherlands thanks to the Muslim vote. The PvdA is generally expected to win the general elections next year, when the 35 year old Dijksma, who has been an MP since she was 23 and is a leading figure in the party, might become a government minister.

      On her weblog Dijksma explains that her proposal is a logical consequence of the Dutch system of subsidizing students. Society finances their studies with government scholarships, hence it is only normal that they pursue a professional career or repay. “If someone chooses not to work, then there should be a substantial repayment,� she said.

      Most Dutch women who decide not to seek paid jobs do so in order to care for their children. Consequently the Dutch media refer to Dijksma’s proposal as “the PvdA Mother Plan.� The proposal elicited fierce criticism, some of which was aimed at Dijksma’s person. Twice the politician started a college course, and twice she failed to complete the course: her grades were poor, and anyway, at the age of 23 she was already a well-paid MP. Angry Dutch bloggers demanded that Dijksma pay back the costs of her unfinished studies before going after the mothers. “Let the fat cow repay her own scholarships first, because that was a real waste of public money,� one of the bloggers wrote.

      The PvdA website has come to the rescue of the beleaguered politician, repeating the stance that those who study at the taxpayers’ expense and do not join the workforce are guilty of “destruction of capital.� Edith Snoey, the leader of the biggest Dutch trade union, who has made a similar proposal to Dijksma’s, wrote on her weblog that Dijksma had expressed herself somewhat unfortunately by giving the impression that she was only focusing on women, while the sanction should also apply to educated men who do not want to join the workforce. However, Snoey said, Dijksma’s mistake was unintentional. The union leader added that the politician should continue the fight: “Cheer up, Sharon. Let us proceed, because we aim for the same goal: more women in the labour force.�

      Since the sixties, socialist feminists like Dijksma and Snoey have refused to accept that women also contribute to the wellbeing of society by investing in children. The time, energy, money, talent, and indeed education invested in the upbringing of children produces greater benefits for society as a whole than the pursuit of individual wealth and satisfaction. Apparently Dijksma’s ideal world is one where educated people spend their lives partying and spending, while the future of society is left to depend on a generation of children raised by poor and uneducated mothers. If all children come from disadvantaged families, the state can step in to “take care� of them.

      If Dijksma and Snoey were honest in their materialistic logic they ought at least to deduct a sum equivalent to what the government spends on the average disadvantaged child throughout its education (and possibly its entire life) from the amount that they are demanding back from educated mothers. Perhaps when all is added up they might decide that it would make more sense to penalise women who choose not to have children in order to pursue their careers.

      Indeed, as a vital resource of any civilisation is its future generation, refusing to have children is a “destruction of capital.� What use is a market when there is no-one to participate in it? Society should allow educated mothers to raise their own children, rather than punish them.

    28. alex Says:

      You’re naive too, if you think women go for humor. That’s what they tell the idiotic judeo-wimmin’s mags you must be browsing. When the clock turns 23 women they go for money, and I don’t blame them.

    29. Bolg Says:

      “…You view it from a male point of view and are incapable of viewing it from a woman’s, or considering that you can’t place yourself in their position…�

      Do not jew around. This is what you said, in print.

      “…We cannot impose our own male view of what we think they should be and demand they live up to it…”

      You assert someone here implied that, which is not true. The natural course of things would be that men lead, women follow. As has been for thousands of years. As things are now – jews lead, women follow. Hey, men follow too.

      “…How many testicles do you have?”

      You mean, apart from the two smacking your behind right now, jude?

    30. A. Says:

      Hey you take one and claim it representative of all. Isn’t that the kind of logic you once denounced? You haven’t read, I mean READ anything I have written. I am quite conversant however with your judaic shadowplay of contending semitic corruptions. I refuse to play such febble games, either I burn bright or my darkness consumes all, and ‘tempt shine in it if you can. Ha!

      One could say that women’s views are just as diverse as men’s however in answer to that the simple thing to ask is how long is the boundary of the Mandelbrot set, or two different Julia sets?

    31. A. Says:

      Exactly what I said in print, so why are you ignoring it. You mis-interpreted it and when I correct you you quote it again. It still says exactly what I said it says and not what you infered from it, which was exactly the opposite of its meaning.

      I’m not saying any one implied it. I’m saying that is what you do. Don’t care what you say. It is what you do. You can deny it. Still truth tho’.

      You wish sodomite.

    32. Carpenter Says:

      When I talk to people about racialism, I find that men are at least five times more receptive than women. Men are much more prone to think “Is this true or false?” whereas women are much more prone to think “Does it benefit me to believe this?” The latter way of thinking does exist among men, but much more among women.

      I suppose this is because they have always been in a state of dependancy, which has shaped them during thousands of generations to think of security first. That is neither good nor bad, it just is.

      Also, women are much more likely than men to be offended when you disagree with them. The male, analytical way of thinking is: “this subject is separate from me.” The female, emotional way of thinking is: “my opinion is a part of me.” So when you talk to them about race, they are much less likely to change their opinions because 1) it is risky and provides no benefits, and 2) they are offended when you criticize their beliefs.

    33. Carpenter Says:

      I think we all know that studies show that even the patterns of the signals in our brains are different. For example, there are much more signals going back and forth in the female brain between the emotional half and the logical half, when judging a problem. The male brain keeps the emotional half more separate from the logical half, when you try to figure out the truth. The liberal classroom will always present this as yet another feather in the hat for women: “We are so clever because we don’t think only through cold, boring logic.” Ever heard something like that? It is entirely false: it is better to judge matters on their own merits, and not let your analysis of a situation be clouded by how you wish it to be, which is the emotional way of thinking.

      Emotion says: I wish everybody could just get along and were the same. So I’ll pretend they can and they are.

    34. Outis Says:

      You’re a lucid chap, Carpenter. If only all commentary were like yours.

    35. Bolg Says:

      “…Exactly what I said in print, so why are you ignoring it. You mis-interpreted it and when I correct you you quote it again. It still says exactly what I said it says and not what you infered from it, which was exactly the opposite of its meaning.

      I’m not saying any one implied it. I’m saying that is what you do. Don’t care what you say. It is what you do. You can deny it. Still truth tho’…”

      You are very emotional. Not very logical though. What you wrote is right above, easy for everyone to see. You might have considered not writing it in the first place, instead of trying to weasel out of it now.

      “You wish sodomite…”

      No, I don’t. Sorry if that’s “letting you down” somehow.

    36. Bolg Says:

      “…The liberal classroom will always present this as yet another feather in the hat for women: “We are so clever because we don’t think only through cold, boring logic.â€? Ever heard something like that? It is entirely false: it is better to judge matters on their own merits, and not let your analysis of a situation be clouded by how you wish it to be, which is the emotional way of thinking.

      Emotion says: I wish everybody could just get along and were the same. So I’ll pretend they can and they are…”

      Exactly right, Carpenter. Jerry Abbott says the same about the way Liberals think (http://jabpage.org). They see the world as they want it to be and substitute that for how the world really is. Thus, “In an ideal world negroes would achieve as much as White people” becomes “negroes do achieve as much as White people”. The results of this way of thinking are well known.

    37. A. Says:

      Not so Bolg. You are the one who is being illogical. I wrote what I wrote and its says what I said it says. You claimed it didn’t. You need reading comprehension lessons.

      Yes, very good comments by Capenter, but I would ass they only add weight to my argument, except for his personal opinion which has some merit, but has to be weighed against my assertions. But again, you have to come to some sort of understanding that life and society don’t follow rigid rules, and only in certain circumstances are ameniable to logic. Such is life, and it is rather illogical to expect otherwise.

    38. Tim Johnson Says:

      A.,
      What was your point again?
      Something about how you are outraged that someone had a good word about patriarchy?
      If so, we’ve yet to see a reason for your views. It seems you’ve offered lots of attitude, but attitude isn’t argument. Nor is this: “you have to come to some sort of understanding that life and society don’t follow rigid rules, and only in certain circumstances [?] are ameniable [sic] to logic[…]it is rather illogical to expect otherwise.” Do you know the meaning of the word “illogical,” or do you see it as merely a synonym of “wrong”?
      By the way, are you a poof? Your thinking style strongly suggests it.

    39. alex Says:

      I’d like to see a White world in which a White man could support a family even if he were only a waiter.

      The women could stay home, and enjoy their time, instead of hassling away at some unthrilling job.

      If they wanted, they could follow intellectual pursuits with that time, but of course only a handful would go that direction.

      With the understanding that there are exceptions, women are for beauty and procreation and raising children, and beyond that, not much is really needed from them.