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The Jews involved in porn (not all are Jews) have only fulfilled the demands of White consumers, who have every opportunity not to consume it. That porn is so popular among Whites merely points to Jewish cleverness rather than corruption: they seized on a market before you did.

If White Nationalists had the intelligence of Jews — unlikely, according to Kevin McDonald and other scholars — they would fund their own porn sites to generate revenues for their movement, knowing that porn, like prostitution, will not disappear.

Actually, all scholars say is that jews have a higher average IQ (107.8 vs 100) than the average “White” (The 117 claim has turned out to be bogus). No doubt more research is going to show this gap to be smaller. Moving on, the jews have their weaknesses too, and one blaring weakness is in problem recognition. This is why everything they do eventually backfires. They think ahead, but they don’t think ahead. A good example is what they did with immigration in the US and Europe. Now it’s biting them on the ass. Whether it’s simply Arab kids beating the shit out of smarmy, well connected pussy jew kids in school, or mestizos pouring in who openly hate the judio Christ Killers, it would be funny if it didn’t portend more problems for whites in general. The full collapse that is coming will straighten things out, and the jews that manage to get out will go somewhere else looking for a new host. A strange people they are, intelligent yet uninventive – everything they do is based on someone else’s creations or insights. Everything.

Their inbred arrogance and self deception doesn’t help them out either. They can’t see they’ve fucked up til it’s too late.

Whites will be OK in in the end, but it’s going to be tough going for awhile.

Carpenter,

Berate all you want. I never said that war was new to the 19th and 20th century, but rather that a particular brutality had developed, starting with the French revolution, Napolians campaigns, the American war against the South, the Boer war, World War one, the Bolshevic revolution, World War Two. The twentieth Century is recognized by historians as “an age of conflict without any precedent in recorded history.” Ivor Benson, The Zionist Factor. I myself believe that it is the culmination of the age of reason- equality, fraternity, liberty.
You say Nationalism is conservatism, which doesn’t mean anything. I say Nationalism derives from the word native signifying race. I would further say that Nationalism involves a people who share a history, one of empathy, not conflict.

NEW AMERICA…..’get your fucking knees brown’ as we say in the British Army. That means, do some service before you spout off.

Linder has cocked up big style. If he just admitted it then it would be OK, but no, he gives it the ‘big ‘un’ against those who disagree with him posting hardcore porn.

Linder has allowed wankers to run the website, he also never answers e-mails. Just what is he doing that is so important ?

He just owns some cyberspace. So bloody what ?

Linder a future white nationalist leader ?

Apart from the UK sycophant moderator, and drunkard, SID, (who has been a nationalist for TWO years) he has no tangible support.

You in the USA, like us in the UK, need to put a ‘big boot’ up our leaders arses, to get them to do something constructive.

Pete?

pete barker UK Says:

The 14th of April, 2006 at 6:02 pm

“NEW AMERICA…..’get your fucking knees brown’ as we say in the British Army. That means, do some service before you spout off.”

pete – Been there, done that.

I have seen how FIFTY YEARS and MILLIONS of dollars – and man-hours – have been spent in fighting EVERYTHING BUT the one common thread that connects all of their nebulous “enemies of the week.”

The number of people who actually went straight at the enemy can be counted on the fingers of one hand – Hell, damn near the FINGER of one hand.

No matter who is doing the counting, Linder is RIGHT THERE; thanks to the Internet he has done more than anyone since Pierce, and, frankly, he is succeeding where Pierce failed.

He does have a profound challenge to all of us – do better.

Remember, Cable Bay internet will run your blog, your website, for very little money.

How much money did YOU send to Edgar Steele’s defense fund?

“Linder has cocked up big style. If he just admitted it then it would be OK, but no, he gives it the ‘big ‘un’ against those who disagree with him posting hardcore porn.”

pete – I am as opposed to Linder’s posting of porno as the next man, up to a point.

Where is the point?

I suspect Linder noted a simple fact – the White Nationalist “Movement” – using THAT term very loosely – with a handful of exceptions (NSM Toledo, NSM Florida, Hal Turner and the NSM at Kingston) has accomplished exactly NOTHING….

Sent any money to Hal Turner? VNN?

ANYONE can do that.

“Linder has allowed wankers to run the website, he also never answers e-mails. Just what is he doing that is so important ?”

pete – So many people need to have their hands held that they take up any time for carrying theball down the field.

Live your OWN life, and don’t wait for Uncle Alex to put aside his familial duties, just to be bitched out for succeeding where his detractors have CONSISTENTLY failed.

Cable Bay will run YOUR website, YOUR blog – for virtually nothing.

Again, I quote Alex Linder – “The best rebellion is excellence.”

The only thing that is stopping you is (fill in the blank).

“He just owns some cyberspace. So bloody what ?”

pete – So can YOU!

Cable Bay Internet – build that share of mind!

“Linder a future white nationalist leader ?”

pete – Linder has his hands full being the best analyst we have – and the best countermeme programmer we have.

He’s GIVING us the ideaas, and the analytical framework.

Why do we ask him to do ALL of the work as well?

Here’s an idea, Pete.

Why don’t YOU try being a “white nationalist leader?”

Far too many of us are looking for someone to live our lives for us.

BE what you want the world to become…

“Apart from the UK sycophant moderator, and drunkard, SID, (who has been a nationalist for TWO years) he has no tangible support.”

pete – Are YOU part of that problem?

Are you here for education, or entertainment?

BE what you want the world to become – get your own blog on Cable Bay.

“You in the USA, like us in the UK, need to put a ‘big boot’ up our leaders arses, to get them to do something constructive.”

pete – We need to back them, FINANCIALLY, and THEN we need to BECOME what we want the world to BE.

There are few things as “constructive” as money.

Want to bet Linder realized TAA represents a dead medium, just like ALL of the mainstream media’s newspapers and magazines? This, in spite of Tsun’s pictures of beautiful women offering the example of applied racism – a perfect target for the young lads of college age.

If THAT didn’t make the big difference, what will?

Want to bet Linder realizes the Internet IS the future for ALL mass communications?

Alex is cool about this, though.

If YOU can do better, step up to the plate…

Oh, by the way…

How much did YOU send in to support TAA? Hal Turner? The NSM?

Though so.

Here’s a fun idea:

Contact Edgar Steele, and ask him how MANY people told him to set up a fund to help defray his expenses – OUT OF POCKET EXPENSES – for defending our people at critical times.

Then, ask him how much people sent in.

I suspect he is ashamed as we all are…

You – and I – don’t have to BE the next Great Leader, but we DO have a duty to support them financially.

Besides, when you send in serious money, or even weekly beer money (consistently!), you have the right to serious bitching!

No money?

Well, that’s a different story.

Like Edgar Steele, I find the pornography at the top of this thread vile, repugnant and abhorrent.

However, Alex didn’t put it there for me.

He probably put it there to drive home a point – many of our young people view literacy as an option, but live in a world controlled by the vehicles of choice for the Propasphere – television, and movies.

Bet it got THEIR attention.

Bet that was the purpose.

Do BETTER.

Send some money to your favorite WN cause, and then call Cable Bay Internet, and set up your own blog.

New America! An Idea Whose Time Is Here!

Pissarro,

Montaigne – A Francophone Sephard who specialized in platitudes. I guarantee you’ve never even read Montaigne, and I’ll tell you why: he’s utterly boring. There is nothing new or different in his writing. His essays are essentially a French rendition of the Old Testament with Latin footnotes. This conforms to the general truth that Jews only imitate or calculate.

Mendelssohn – “…in hearing a tone-piece of this composer’s, we have only been able to feel engrossed where nothing beyond our more or less amusement-craving Phantasy was roused through the presentment, stringing-together and entanglement of the most elegant, the smoothest and most polished figures—as in the kaleidoscope’s changeful play of form and colour — but never where those figures were meant to take the shape of deep and stalwart feelings of the human heart.” (Wagner, “Judaism in Music”)

Spinoza – Cabbalism and Jewish morals wrapped in philosophic garb. I guarantee you’ve not read Spinoza, and if you have, you completely missed the point.

Pissarro – Mere decadence.

Your examples fail, naturally, for you’re a twit who’s been schooled in Jew-sucking clichés, but also for the deeper reason that you can’t make an inferior type to be something it isn’t. Try this experiment: ask twenty random people to name one famous woman from history, predating the twentieth century. Mark how many say “Joan of Arc”.

Jews dominate pornography… the show is filthy… But it’s not filthy because Jews are in it: Jews are in it because it’s filthy. They can’t help rolling in filth, just like Blacks or Arabs can’t help being stupid and violent.
They engage in all that stinks, wondering why those naive goys let the way clear. What me dignity?

But not all clients are Jewish.

Pornography is a test for Whites. If you think it’s filthy and don’t want to see it at all, you really are White. If you watch that with lust, you may have browner blood mixed in.

“it’s hard to match the production of the Renaissance.”

Doesn’t excuse vagueness in painting. I admit it requires its own kind of skill, but the point here is not what is being painted – though the cult of “ordinary people”, seamstresses and whatnot, is plebeian enough to be dangerous to a heroic view of life – but how things are painted. In any case, in my view, art is mostly irrelevant, painting above all. I’m not one of these WNs who make a big deal of “white art”, so all discussion of art with me will get you nowhere.

“Whether you like Mendelssohn or not,”

I said nothing about that. I merely quoted Wagner, and his point was precisely that: though Mendelssohn’s music may be amusing or pleasant, it isn’t profound.

“his music has been very influential”

Yes, Jews are usually very influential. Usually because their kinsmen are in publicity.

“From what I remember, the anti-Semite Voltaire said very positive things about the philosophy of Spinoza.”

And that’s why Voltaire is not classed as a philosopher.

“I have avoided all of the scientists and physicists”

You’re quite typical. That correlates to being pro-Jew, advocatus diaboli. In any case, you imagine Jewish this-and-thats scare me, oh no, an intelligent Jew existed! Rather, I ask you to put forward one truly positive contribution to human knowledge for which we have a Jew to thank. I say this not rhetorically; I can name my own examples, old scholarly Jews I wouldn’t trade for a thousand Aryans. But this beside the point. Psychologically speaking, you’re nothing but a dog carrying a bone for Judah; this you can’t see. It is amazing to me that a white man, or any man, would be content with his lot as an advocate for disgruntled, disagreeable master race like the Jews. You’re more or less an Uncle Tom in the House of Judah. The point is, Jews are inessential. Trot out all the token Jews you like: Europe and the West took not one step forward with Aryan genius leading the way. If you took away all the white genius, and just left the jewish, so-called, you’d have…..well, nothing much: you’d just have the Torah, for it is indeed the case that in everything the Jews, as outsiders, had to delve into our creations, in music, painting, science, or what have you. By denying that Jews are uncreative and at best imitative (though this leaves out the omnipresent Jewish flavor in all imitation), you deny Jews their true character and history, for a nomadic people can never be truly creative; art and science are flowers of otium. It’s basic horticulture, and it’s just your penchant for sycophancy that leads you astray from the basic truths of the organic world.

“You’re so hung up on dehumanizing Jews”

Either you went to school, or you are in school, and no doubt have imbibed much rhetoric which was designed solely to dehumanize Aryans and lionize Jews; in other words, you’re a lickspittle to a much more insidious form of dehumanization.

The truth – which is alien to you, as a spouter of Jewish hyperbole – is that you know absolutely nothing about me, and cannot register a word of what I am saying, because *you* are too busy lionizing a race which has trained you to do just that. All I’m doing is saying the names you trotted suck and that’s because they were kikes. I’ve dehumanized no one so far; besides, the Jews dehumanize themselves — they are buffeted from within against the bounty of humanism, which they used and use as a weapon against us. If you want to reproach someone for dehumanizing Jews, walk into a Yeshiva, if you can, and tell the Rebbe to stop drumming hatred of the goyim into the yidls. Burn a Torah. Write the ADL a letter about their “Early Childhood Initiative” multicult programming in preschools, while their own children are safe within the confines of the Jewish community. If you want to rebuke someone for dehumanization, reread Spinoza, if you ever read him, and see if you can find the faintest hint of man, as he is, in the cabbalistic aridity of his system.

But enough, it’s all wasted on you.

“you are unable to see their talents and abilities”

On the contrary: I simply don’t see any talent in your puny examples. I can name half a dozen Jews with leagues more talent in their respective fields, including Indo-European studies. But you, being a mere sycophant, only twirl a few names about with no inner appreciation, much as punks, to piss of Nazis, will say things like, “I’m going to fuck a black person to get back at those fascist scum!” In other words, you’re a white person patronizing another race or group to make yourself feel righteous; in other words, you’re precious multicult training didn’t go deep enough.

“That’s OK, you aren’t the only one.”

Who said, “A patronizing tone is the hallmark of the misinformed”?

“they think the conquistadores were Jews (to them non-White)”

I don’t know why you’re preaching to me, hoss. Or rather I do: you like to preach. I’m all for conquistadores, Jews or not. The Frankfurt Schule yids were more or less conquistadores, just armed with pens. Ah well, I’m done with you.

I just want to add, despite your condescension to me, that I do not despise you, Outis, nor look down on you (maybe I do see you as naive, though).

Outis writes: “In any case, in my view, art is mostly irrelevant, painting above all.”

You are not the only WN that feels this way. With leftists much more interested in art than conservatives, it should be of no surprise that they have had a stronger influence on popular and even high culture in recent decades.

Outis writes: “And that’s why Voltaire is not classed as a philosopher.”

Writer, philosopher, polemicist: call him what you wish, but Voltaire wrote philosophical texts. I suppose this is just one example of a conversation breaking down due to ideological bias, whereby two people speak different languages.

You think I am a tool of the Jews, which is perfectly fine (and trite). I don’t think Jews are nearly as powerful as you and others believe; it only appears that way because you deny the element of volition in the way Whites behave. If Whites enjoy porn, the Jews have corrupted them into liking porn. My feeling is that WNs are prudish about sex, and prudishness to me is associated with the Bible Belt and an inferior education. So many White girls enjoy watching porn — with or without their boyfriends. This thread will turn off millions of Whites, but I suppose a Jew lickspittle like me is the problem.

As Kevin MacDonald writes, anti-Semites and Jews engage in self-deception. In my view claiming Jews have made no major positive contributions to Western culture is an example of this. So is the claim that the conquistadores were Jews (thus denying that Whites race-mixed), or that all non-White women are “muds.” That’s why I brought up the subject, but again, perhaps it’s best that we depart ways about now.

I only wish to stick up for the millions of Whites reviled by ultra-conservative and prudish White Nationalists, who have their morality questioned, the same way they do by Fundamentalist Christians. If White Nationalists would stop bashing the vast majority of Whites, perhaps I would not be handing it back to them the way I do.

U.K.
You say that you never had the pleasure of meeting Dr. Pierce but you ” know one thing, that he would have thrown a fit at Linder for using porn. You know that well” You don’t know jackshit. I had the pleasure of meeting with Dr. Pierce on several occassions. He was a calm man who studied each situation very carefully. I don’t presume to know what his reaction would have been but I can make an educated guess. He would have made his opinion known and counsel that we learn from our mistake and MOVE ON. Just my two schillings comrade. Then again whats my opinion compared to someone who doesn’t know Pierce or Linder buts does know what Pierce,Tyndall and even Hitler would do? No mistake too.

pete –
pete barker UK Says:

The 15th of April, 2006 at 7:19 pm

“New America : In case you haven’t read my info, I reside in the United Kingdom. I have never even heard of this Steele character you mention, should I have ?”

Yes; Attorney Edgar Steele’s site is conspiracypenpal.com, and he is a statesman for our cause, our people, and our RACE.

From what I can tell, he become knowledgeable as to the issue of the Jew the same way we all have; a sudden, shocking event in which we awoke from a dream, and realized our “friends” were actually our parasites – a classic Oliver formulation, that.

“You in the USA have had no-one since Dr.Bill Pierce, who I was unfortunate not to meet, when he came to London in 1993 to speak. We lost John Tyndall only last year. Neither are replaceable.”

And to what do be blame that?

The world changes, and society moves on.

Pierce paid the price – as did Rockwell – as did John Tyndall – as has Edgar Steele – as has Alex Linder – as has Peter Shank – ALL woke up one morning, and realized that an implacable, eternal foe, organized SOLELY along RACIAL lines, had such power as to disrupt their lives to such an extent that it seems their previous life was based on a dream.

Many men go mad in such circumstances, and waste their lives in a state of learned helplessness.

These men haven’t.

They have, and are, putting their lives back together with a new awareness, an awareness the Jew takes for granted…

“The point is, publishing porn is WRONG. We are a pro-family movement.”

As to the first part, I could not agree more, and if it was MY website, it would not have been published.

As to the second part, if we are a “Movement,” then we might as well call it a day.

It amazes me; we have ABSOLUTELY the ONE CAUSE everyone agrees with – after they look over their shoulder to make sure no one is listening – and, somehow, HISTORICALLY, we have managed to attract the damndest back of incompetents, half-wits and fools imaginable.

The reason is simple.

The Enemy controlled the tools of information, the terms of the debate, and even the words.

WE unconsciously – television! – adopted THEIR terms, and THEIR definitions.

We were beaten before we came to the playing field.

The Internet, alone, has allowed us to see that we are NOT alone in seeing behind the Matrix, seeing HOW the Propasphere works to define us to the Enemy’s satisfaction.

We are finally getting the beginnings of organization on our side.

People are finally starting to Awaken…

The thought of White Christians organizing along RACIAL lines – which is what we did when we were the greatest country in the history of the world, with the greatest economy AND the greatest degree of personal freedom at the same time – just terrifies the Jews.

IF enough of us Awaken, then we will go from Awakening to Activity, and that activity could well include playing Edgar Steele’s favorite game, “Cowboys and Jews.”

“Just who the hell is Linder anyway?”

Alex Linder – I don’t know the details of his Awakening – is THE SOLE HEIR to the titles of Rockwell and Pierce: Rockwell, because, like Rockwell, Linder – damn near ALONE – puts ALL of his efforts into going TOTALLY at the Jew, straight on, without mercy, and Pierce, because, like Pierce, he addresses the entire range of organized human activity along RACIAL lines, and the “Battle of Genes and Memes” that the Jews were actively engaged in – as predators, on the attack – and we were passively engaged in – as, literally, sleepwalking victims, the most helpless of prey.

Guess who has been winning?

Guess who is terrified of us Awakening?

Remember, White Christians, organized along RACIAL lines, have been the ONLY group that posed a threat to Jews in the history of the world. Look at Christ, look at Martin Luther, look at Hitler.

We even have a clean, simple motto:

NO JEWS, JUST RIGHT!

Even the BNP leadership can understand that one…

“And no, we can’t host websites here in the UK, due to our laws. That is why most of the webspace for all white nationalist groups in the World, reside in the USA, due to your Constitution.”

Yes, but you can USE Cable Bay; it is hosted in the US.

For now.

“I know one thing, that Dr.Pierce and John Tyndall would have thrown a fit at Linder for using porno. I know that well.”

I suspect that Pierce is looking at us from Valhalla, and thinking: “Everything I worked for all of my life is in the hands of our enemies. I did not think RACIALLY. I did not have access to all of the tools this fellow Linder has. If I had, I would have recognized that the Battle is total, absolute, and fought on all fronts, by an Enemy that rejoiced when Jesus went to the Cross. I have no truck with Christianity, particularly what Christianity has become, but the Jews have got us using their terms, on their terms. Bob Matthews did his best, but he was premature; this fellow Linder is defining OUR framework, in OUR terms, for OUR people, and OUR RACE. The porno – less than 1% of 1% of 1% of all the content on this website – seems to be standard fare on television, particularly the satellite and cable channels. Most of our people are so Asleep they need to be SHOCKED into the beginnings of Wakefulness. Now, the NSM. THAT’S another matter!”

I suspect Tyndall is looking at what has become of the BNP, and shaking his head in sorrow…

From the Empire to being a Second World Country with First World Enclaves, in his lifetime…

“Every UK nationalist group and the German nationalists that I speak with are totally opposed to VNN for doing this.”

Now, EXACTLY how much have they contributed to VNN, the Aryan Alternative, Hal Turner, Edgar Steele’s Defense Fund?

Look at what Linder has to work with; his efforts are no less effective, from what I can see, from what the British nationalists and the German nationalists have become…

Remember, if they are opposed to what Linder is doing, take heed of Linder’s words: “Excellence is the best rebellion.”

Do better.

“And here’s me thinking that VNN was NS.”

Not yet; yet, the FOUNDATION for NS can only be laid in a cultural matrix where WE define the terms to OUR satisfaction, and that is what Linder, master of the countermeme, is DOING.

He is doing this, I might add, for little damn support from any quarter.

Try sending him the money you spend on beer this week, and send the money you spend on beer NEXT week to Hal Turner.

If enough of us do that often enough – WHILE WE CAN! – we can lay the foundation for an NS State Savitri Devi would have been right at home in.

“Hitler would have sent his SA into this website, and trashed the lot, and no mistake.”

No.

Goebbels would have called Linder, and ask Alex how it was REALLY working out, and asked him if he needed any financial support OR political defense from the Party.

Goering would probably have had a good laugh with his friends.

Hitler would have been busy doing better – at every thing.

Like we all should.

BE what you want the world to become!

New America! An Idea Whose Time Is Here!

“If White Nationalists would stop bashing the vast majority of Whites, perhaps I would not be handing it back to them the way I do.”

Well, they deserve bashing. But WNs deserve more — just not with jewish rhetoric, which you employ. I think I’ve always said plenty of things against White Nationalism Orthodoxy without recourse to jewish rhetoric. It’s quite possible to point out faults without repeating what Jews say.

I like the way you set up that your info is the homepage, nicely done. Thanks!