26 May, 2006

Truth Is No Defense #17 ready for download

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In this broadcast Beck takes a look at a suppressed lecture by T.S. Eliot.

Direct MP3 download: gbttind1748k.mp3

Podcast: http://feeds.feedburner.com/thetruthisnodefense

Archives: here

Forum and Transcript: here


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  7. 21 Responses to “Truth Is No Defense #17 ready for download”

    1. James Hawthorne Says:

      Great show Geoff .. I learn something new everytime from your programme … I think thats why i tune in !

    2. Olde Dutch Says:

      How many more weeks vacation is Herr Linder taking?

      Do we all need to make a little donation—so he can hire some help, buy some stories, whatever etc. etc. I would hate like hell to see Linder give up building his news network for lack of funds.

      Like you point out “Geoff”, many good men have been run off by the jews.

    3. James Morden Says:

      Thanks for the heads up about the Eliot book.

    4. Carpenter Says:

      He who was living is now dead
      We who were living are now dying

      I can’t help reading T.S. Eliot as “Tough-Shit Eliot” every time I see it. :D
      Sort of: “These warnings of the future are uncomfortable to you? Well, tough shit.”

      An insightful man it seems, how unusual. This is what I like about White Nationalism, and I think you can all agree with me: there is such a wealth of thought to dive into, and a wealth of authors and thinkers and leaders to discuss: Adolt Hitler of course, but a lot of names most people have never heard of, such as Julius Evola, Savitri Devi, Revilo P. Oliver, Commander Rockwell, Dr. Pierce, Alex Linder…. I am forgetting many. No WN agrees with all of them, but they’re part of our debate. And then there’s a whole lot of philosophical strands, and ways of looking at the world that other people never see. I am thinking of a recent discussion I overheard where a leftist thought of China as a haven of abuse and exploitation, while a conservative thought of it as a communist state; me, I simply saw the brutality of a non-White country, and I saw the dictatorship as perfectly natural. (Hold that thought, comrade! Let’s not turn this into a thread on China, this is just an example.)

      We also preserve the White past in a way that others don’t; great authors and artists who weren’t nationalists, at least not expressly, but who we still appreciate as examples of the White genius that makes this world a better place. And we look way back to the pre-historic past and learn of ancient tribes and realms: Tokharians, Kurgans, Old Europeans, the first Hindus, Vandals and Visigoths….

      Such a wealth that could fill the shelves in the bookstores. So many thoughts that would have their place in the public discourse: many concepts that would be picked up readily, others that would be discussed at length. Dreams that could fill books and movies with fascination and wonder. Imagine if the dam were allowed to break free, so that hundreds of millions of Whites could take part of the heritage that belongs to them, and marvel at the struggles that have been waged for their sake, before they were born, and today while they slept.

      Alas … maybe we can teach them tomorrow.

    5. Olde Dutch Says:

      This maybe a brainflash to many of you, but, we live in a country founded by White nationalists who built a White nation.

    6. Carpenter Says:

      Olde Dutch, they were not what we call White Nationalists, an express ideology including many ideas they did not embrace, but they were certainly race-aware to a degree. Anyway … what is your point?

    7. Olde Dutch Says:

      The founders might not be what you call White nationalists—they are what I call White nationalists. Successful White nationalists. Not losers, wannabes or has beens, but, White men who founded and built a nation.

    8. Carpenter Says:

      Again, I don’t see why you are mentioning that in this thread. I ask again if you could clarify your intention. Your bitter classification of the rest of us as “losers, wannabes and hasbeens” is duly noted.

    9. Olde Dutch Says:

      Carp, you really didn’t read, or listen to “Geoff’s” # 17 about T.S. Eliot did you. Unless, you strongly diagree with Eliot…then what you are saying might be somewhat understandable.

    10. Carpenter Says:

      Oh, I read the transcript. Now I’ll ask you for the third time how your comment was relevant; really, I was just asking, not picking a fight as you can see, you’re the one making a big deal out of avoiding the question. Odd.

      And how is our inferiority – we losers and hasbeens – in comparison to a fine specimen such as yourself relevant to this thread? Perhaps this time you will reply, if you are able. Maybe you were just blowing off some steam.

      (And as for the founders, they were definitely not White Nationalists. They were racist, but White Nationalism is outspokenly anti-Semitic, anti-democratic, anti-egalitarian, and solidly against other races living in our midst, as slaves or otherwise. Really, the conservative worship of the Founding Fathers and the Constitution has to stop, it worked for a while but it leads nowhere now.)

    11. Lokuum Says:

      “Strange godsâ€? is quite appropriate. Celine said modern man worships “money and crap”. With the absence of a god man is lost for a place of worship. See the Americans at the political party conventions? How they cheer. They cheer for their own death.

    12. Carpenter Says:

      I have often thought about that, Lokuum. Goebbels once said that “It is important that people believe in something.” I think he meant that as long as you have a goal outside yourself, something in the future that your people has to work toward, you’ll grow up. You get a whole different way of judging the value of things, the value of different political causes.

      But neither Left nor Right is working toward something bigger today; they are all about coddling their voters here and now. I suppose that is unavoidable in a democracy. I suppose democracy really does become an actual ideology in the end, not just a system. A hedonistic ideology.

      “It is telling that Duty, this time-honored European tradition, has no place in the democratic philosophy,” a nationalist once said.

    13. Biff Baxter Says:

      Amazing retrieval of a forgotten lecture, I had never heard of these ideas from the guy.

      T.S. Eliot is the poet who told the truth. That’s why we call him a genius. Sorry if it is “negative” as Oprah the nigger might describe it. Niggers have no business reading poetry of this power and perception anyway. They should stick to their negress rhyming chatter that sounds like a retarded three year old and yet is awarded Nobel prizes. Not a single nigger poet has ever been born who deserved to kiss Walt Whitman on his ass.

    14. Olde Dutch Says:

      Carp, to use a simile from the essay, you argue like a rootless “comopolitan”.

      Even with my limited knowledge of T.S. Eliot, if “Geoff” were to post the entire essay, your “free thinking” & “cosmopolitian” attitude would become more apparent.

      Cloaking one’s self, in what a cosmopolitian like yourself, considers a proper form of criticism is just another device. A device which may of us can see through.

    15. Lokuum Says:

      Carpenter,

      Goebbels was right, of course. But I was trying to take it a step further:
      a person (the European type, which is the only one I feel I can speak for) is wired to seek something “higher” outside their self. Without a God, so to speak, they have their “strange gods”, one of which is democracy. Others include, Martin Luther King, FDR, the holocaust, capitalism, socialism, environmentalism, multi-culturelism, and so on. And where are these myths manufactured? Not in churches, but in schools. Educational institutions are the myth creators and yet, oddly enough, people think that they are receiving the most rational and scientific education in the history of mankind. Is it not interesting then to see the academics yelling the loudest on separation of church and state? I think unwittingly, they are creating what the constitution really denounced, that is, an established church. A church in which, doubting their myths, may means jail time.

    16. Outis Says:

      The normally misinformed Carpenter does not break with his tradition here by inventing an “Aryan” tribe called “Kurgans”, which to we, the informed, know as a certain kind of burial-mound somewhat dubiously associated with very ancient, and probably pre-“Aryan”, Indo-Europeans.

      Carpenter, being misinformed, will rise in defense of his error.

    17. Carpenter Says:

      Olde Dutch:
      Carp, to use a simile from the essay, you argue like a rootless “comopolitan�.

      Even with my limited knowledge of T.S. Eliot, if “Geoff� were to post the entire essay, your “free thinking� & “cosmopolitian� attitude would become more apparent.

      Cloaking one’s self, in what a cosmopolitian like yourself, considers a proper form of criticism is just another device. A device which may of us can see through.

      Note how funny this is: what did I say to anger Olde Dutch here? To the point that he calls me a “cosmopolitan,” which is synonymous with “race traitor.” Let’s see.

      I think that my crime was in that I mentioned Hitler. Note that right after that did Olde Dutch patronizingly write: “This maybe [sic] a brainflash to many of you, but, we live in a country founded by White nationalists who built a White nation.”

      With that he meant: he hates the men I mentioned, Hitler and other Nationalists – his house gods are the Founding Fathers. But he can’t say that outright Olde Dutch has shown himself to be a more lukewarm conservative in other threads as well.

      He doesn’t dare start a conflict about that, fearing that his hatred of Hitler and the boys would meet more resistance than he can handle. So that’s why he is now bitching and growling, avoiding three, four times in a row to answer my simple question: what do his arrogant remarks have to do with this thread?

      He calls us WNs “losers, wannabes and hasbeens.” Too bad a neverbeen like Olde Dutch here isn’t in charge, eh? He’d show us what a true conservative, Constitutionalist worshipper of the Founding Fathers can do! :D

    18. Carpenter Says:

      The normally misinformed Carpenter does not break with his tradition here by inventing an “Aryan� tribe called “Kurgans�, which to we, the informed, know as a certain kind of burial-mound somewhat dubiously associated with very ancient, and probably pre-�Aryan�, Indo-Europeans.

      Carpenter, being misinformed, will rise in defense of his error.

      *LOL* How many aliases do you need, sweetie?

      Here’s a little reading for you:

      “The Kurgan people were an Indo-European culture existing during the fifth, fourth, and third millennia BC; they lived in northern Europe, from Russia across Germany, and various authorities have mounted a case for them being THE proto-Indo-European culture, from which all Indo-European cultures descend.”

      Oops. Too bad for you. And that’s the only thing you could find to whine about? LOL

      Btw, did I say the Kurgans were Aryan? Umm, let’s see Outis find the quote where I said that…

      Come on, Outis…

      Waiting…

      Can’t? Ouch, how tough for ya. Oh, dear.

      Better be more careful next time. Unlike you, I don’t throw out wild assumptions. But I do know they were most likely Aryan (you know what Indo-European means, right? Yes? No?), and if you’d take the time to check the discussion about them in a WN forum or two, you’d see it is entirely fitting that I mention them when talking about the past that we WNs discuss, which, as you can see, was my point there – I was mentioning the WN debate about the past. Not making categorical statements about it.

      Ouch, that has got to hurt, sweetie. Better quickly make up another nick and write something else now. Hurry, hurry!

    19. Carpenter Says:

      Lokuum Says:

      Carpenter,

      Goebbels was right, of course. But I was trying to take it a step further:
      a person (the European type, which is the only one I feel I can speak for) is wired to seek something “higher� outside their self. Without a God, so to speak, they have their “strange gods�, one of which is democracy. Others include, Martin Luther King, FDR, the holocaust, capitalism, socialism, environmentalism, multi-culturelism, and so on. And where are these myths manufactured? Not in churches, but in schools.

      Yes, I see what you mean. Searching for something to fill the vacuum, they get this new system of thoughts and beliefs, from the holocaust to the sanctity of homosexuality. Like a secular religion, if you will.

      The one positive thing about it is that it shows us people do yearn for something higher to guide their lives. Even as they vote guided by their wallets, they realize that’s not what they’re supposed to do.

      That works in our favor when people discover how empty this egalitarian and hedonistic system really is. There will always be those who realize that. Right now they are not making much noise, but they could.

      Again we come back to this: when people realize it won’t fill their wallets anymore, many of them will leave the rotten house of cards, disgusted by the whole thing. At that point, let’s hope we can be there and show them what T.S. Eliot and others have realized, but in our nationalist way. We really only have to break through in one of the big nations….

    20. Olde Dutch Says:

      Carp, If you do live in England, or wherever you claim to live, I can see why American “tradition” & “orthodoxy” in T.S. Eliot’s terms wouldn’t mean anything to you.

      In American political terms, Hitler did the sky rocket act, he shot up into the air and then blew up.

      I hope that “Geoff” publishes the entire T.S. Eliot essay. I doub it would still be under copyright.

      Of course you won’t read it. But, Carpmeister you will get on here, and lecture us about the world according to Carpmeister.

    21. Amalekite Says:

      In the future, lay off the reverb/echo effect. It’s really cheesy, and makes it difficult to concentrate on what’s being said.