22 September, 2006

Ahmadinejad Dominates Jewish Liars in New York

Posted by alex in Ahmadinejad, jewed foreign policy, jewish hate & hypocrisy, Jewish Tyranny, jews in America at 3:45 pm | Permanent Link

REFUSES TO PLAY ZIONIST GAME

Iran president rattles cage
of U.S. foreign policy establishment

AN ACCOUNT OF THE ENCOUNTER BY A LEADING SYSTEM MOUTHPIECE

Iran’s Leader Relishes 2nd Chance to Make Waves

By DAVID E. SANGER
The New York Times Thursday, 21 September 2006

NEW YORK — When President Bush and his advisers decided to allow President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad of Iran into the country to address the United Nations, their strategy was simple: containment.

There would be no visits to other cities where he could denounce Washington or question Israel’s legitimacy. There would be no opportunities, beyond his speech to the General Assembly, to turn questions about his nuclear intentions into repeated diatribes about America’s nuclear arsenal.

It turned out that Mr. Ahmadinejad had a Plan B.

The scope of his determination to dominate not only the airwaves but the debate became evident yesterday evening, when he entered a hotel conference room on the East Side with a jaunty smile, a wave and an air of supreme confidence.

Over the objections of the administration and Jewish groups that boycotted the event, Mr. Ahmadinejad, the man who has become the defiant face of Iran, squared off with the nation’s foreign policy establishment, parrying questions for an hour and three-quarters with two dozen members of the Council on Foreign Relations, then ending the evening by asking whether they were simply shills for the Bush administration.

Never raising his voice and thanking each questioner with a tone that oozed polite hostility, he spent 40 minutes questioning the evidence that the Holocaust ever happened — “I think we should allow more impartial studies to be done on this,” he said after hearing an account of an 81-year-old member, the insurance mogul Maurice R. Greenberg, who saw the Dachau concentration camp as Germany fell — and he refused to even consider Washington’s proposal for Russia to provide Iran with nuclear reactor fuel, and take it back once it is used. (Without the capacity to enrich fuel on its own soil Iran would be unable to make fuel suitable for a nuclear weapon.)

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/21/world/middleeast/21iran.html?hp&ex=1158897600&en=fd75007868ac87af&ei=5094&partner=homepage


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    1. alex Says:

      Iran’s Leader Relishes 2nd Chance to Make Waves
      Don Pollard/Council on Foreign Relations

      President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad of Iran had an exchange with members of the Council on Foreign Relations Wednesday evening.

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      By DAVID E. SANGER
      Published: September 21, 2006

      When President Bush and his advisers decided to allow President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad of Iran into the country to address the United Nations, their strategy was simple: containment.

      There would be no visits to other cities where he could denounce Washington or question Israel’s legitimacy. There would be no opportunities, beyond his speech to the General Assembly, to turn questions about his nuclear intentions into repeated diatribes about America’s nuclear arsenal.

      It turned out that Mr. Ahmadinejad had a Plan B.

      The scope of his determination to dominate not only the airwaves but the debate became evident yesterday evening, when he entered a hotel conference room on the East Side with a jaunty smile, a wave and an air of supreme confidence.

      Over the objections of the administration and Jewish groups that boycotted the event, Mr. Ahmadinejad, the man who has become the defiant face of Iran, squared off with the nation’s foreign policy establishment, parrying questions for an hour and three-quarters with two dozen members of the Council on Foreign Relations, then ending the evening by asking whether they were simply shills for the Bush administration.

      Never raising his voice and thanking each questioner with a tone that oozed polite hostility, he spent 40 minutes questioning the evidence that the Holocaust ever happened — “I think we should allow more impartial studies to be done on this,” he said after hearing an account of an 81-year-old member, the insurance mogul Maurice R. Greenberg, who saw the Dachau concentration camp as Germany fell — and he refused to even consider Washington’s proposal for Russia to provide Iran with nuclear reactor fuel, and take it back once it is used. (Without the capacity to enrich fuel on its own soil Iran would be unable to make fuel suitable for a nuclear weapon.)

      He traced the history of 50 years of unfilled deals with the United States, Germany, France and others — skipping over the Iranian revolution and the hostage-taking that followed — and concluded, “How can we rely on these partners.” His solution? The United States should shut down its own fuel production and “within five years, we will sell you our own fuel, with a 50 percent discount!” He settled back into his seat with a broad smile that some in the group described as a smirk.

      The decision by the council’s president, Richard N. Haass, to invite Mr. Ahmadinejad to the session touched off a rare outcry protest in an organization whose meetings are usually as staid as the portraits of long-forgotten diplomats on its walls.

      Mr. Haass, who ran the policy planning branch of the State Department during Mr. Bush’s first term, first had to fend off senior administration officials who had argued that he should not give Mr. Ahmadinejad the legitimacy of a hearing — especially with the likes of Brent Scowcroft, who served as national security adviser under President Bush’s father, or Robert D. Blackwill, who directed Iraq policy at the White House under Condoleezza Rice.

      “It’s fair to say that Dr. Rice thought this was a bad idea,” one senior State Department official said. “A really, really bad idea.”

      So did leaders of several Jewish groups, whom Mr. Haass invited — and who promptly asked if the council would have invited Hitler in the 1930’s. “Some of us considered quitting to make it clear how offensive this is,” said Abraham H. Foxman, the national director of the Anti-Defamation League, who was one of the Jewish leaders whose attendance Mr. Haass sought.

      But after a flurry of phone calls, including with Elie Wiesel, the writer and Holocaust survivor, they decided against a mass resignation — particularly after the council made the session a “meeting” rather than a dinner. (There were light hors d’oeuvres on the side; Mr. Ahmadinejad never touched them.)

      “It is more offensive to break bread with the guy,” Mr. Foxman said. “I thought dinner was crossing the line.”

      But the council pointed out that it had served as host for many world leaders equally skilled at repressing dissidents, developing suspected weapons programs, shutting down a free press and denouncing Israel.

      “We’ve had Castro,” said Lisa Shields, the council’s communications director, ticking off the gallery of leaders Washington considered rogues. “We’ve had Arafat, and Mugabe. We’ve had Gerry Adams.”

      The greeting yesterday evening was not exactly overwhelming. There were no introductory handshakes, no diplomatic niceties. All of the Americans who were invited to attend, including four journalists, were members of the council. Iran’s effort to bring in television cameras was deflected, apparently because the council feared that the session would be used for political purposes in Iran, where Mr. Ahmadinejad is presumably eager to show that even if President Bush refused to meet him, he got his message across.

      In fact he did — meeting academics in the morning and religious leaders at midday, and speeding from the council meeting for another television interview. He did most of this without leaving the Intercontinental Hotel on 48th Street in Manhattan.

      The council would not say how many of the invitees had refused to attend. But members said they knew of more than a half-dozen, from the publisher Mort Zuckerman to the former Secretary of State Madeleine K. Albright. It is unclear why some declined. A few claimed scheduling conflicts, rather than moral objections.

      The handful who had a chance to quiz the Iranian president went out of their way, within the limits of diplomatic etiquette, to make clear to Mr. Ahmadinejad that they thought his characterizations of Israel and the Holocaust were repugnant and that his nuclear strategy was self-defeating. He gave no ground.

      When Martin S. Indyk, a former American ambassador to Israel, told Mr. Ahmadinejad that Iran “did everything possible to destroy’’ efforts to bring peace between Israel and the Palestinians, the president said, “If you believe Iran is the reason for the failure, you are making a second mistake.’’ Why, he asked, should the Palestinians be asked to “pay for an event they had nothing to do with’’ in World War II, saying that they had nothing to do with the systematic killing of Jews — if those killings, he added, had happened at all.

      “In World War II about 60 million people were killed,’’ he said at one point, when pressed again on his refusal to accept that the Holocaust happened. “Two million were military. Why is such prominence given to a small portion of those 60 million?’’

      A few minutes later, he asked a question himself: “In the Council on Foreign Relations, is there any voice of support for the Palestinians?’’

      Mr. Ahmadinejad’s habit of answering every question about Iranian policy with a question about American policy was clearly wearing on some of the members, but at the end they acknowledged that he was about as skillful an interlocutor as they had ever encountered. “He is a master of counterpunch, deception, circumlocution,’’ Mr. Scowcroft said, shaking his head. Mr. Blackwill emerged from the conversation wondering how the United States would ever be able to negotiate with this Iranian government.

      “If this man represents the prevailing government opinion in Tehran, we are heading for a massive confrontation with Iran,” he said.

      In fact, on the main issue speeding the two countries toward confrontation, Iran’s nuclear program, the president was unwilling to discuss specifics. He insisted that he was fully cooperating with the International Atomic Energy Agency, even though it had pages of questions his government refused to answer.

      Instead, he steered the whole conversation toward Iran’s rights under the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty, ignoring an effort by Ashton B. Carter, a Harvard professor, to get him to answer whether the nuclear effort was worth the cost to Iranian society.

      “The U.S. doesn’t speak for the whole world,’’ Mr. Ahmadinejad responded, noting that at a meeting of nonaligned nations in Cuba over the weekend “118 countries defended the right of Iran to enrich.’’

      And as he left, it was with a jab to his hosts. “At the beginning of the session, you said you were an independent group,’’ he said. “But almost everything that I was asked came from a government position.’’ Then he smiled, thanked everyone and left the room with a light step.

    2. alex Says:

      What this shows is that the way to beat the jews is to attack them directly, as they attack you. They specialize in hounding goyim by playing to their guilt, which is based on imaginary persecution suffered by the jews. They use their control of media and colleges to promote false version of history, in which they are the victims rather than the aggressors, and public debate proceeds from this false basis. As there is no way to correct history in the mind of the brainwashed goyim, the opponent of the jew should stick to raising questions the jews dare not answer, and making points they don’t want raised. The fill-in deculting of awakening Aryans must be carried out backstage.

      Attack, attack, attack! Never defend, only attack.

    3. alex Says:

      “He gave no ground.” Exactly.

      The jews are the liars. The jews are the murderers. The jews are the false-accusers.

    4. Filles du Roi's Boi Says:

      “Did you get the answer you wanted about the Holocaust?”

      I love the way he handled CNN’s Anderson Cooper.
      Instead of running away from the Holohoax qustion, he pressed the issue, forcing Cooper to back off:

      COOPER: You have repeatedly implied that the Holocaust never happened. And … implied that more research needs to be done on whether or not it did happen.

      … The argument could be made that the genocide was perhaps the most well-documented genocide of the 20th century. Do you really believe that the Holocaust never happened?

      AHMADINEJAD: If this event happened, where did it happen? The where is the main question. And it was not in Palestine. Why is the Holocaust used as a pretext to occupy the Palestinian lands?

      COOPER: But do you understand why it’s deeply offensive to people. …

      AHMADINEJAD: That subject, how is it connected to the occupying regime in Jerusalem?

      COOPER: You do realize though why it would be deeply offensive to so many people that … you even say “if it ever happened”?

      AHMADINEJAD: Well, you don’t speak here for all Americans. In the past two or three days, I have met with many members of the media and the press here, some who are even related to the U.S. government. But the questions are the same across the board.

      COOPER: Why can’t you believe there was a Holocaust and support Palestinians?

      AHMADINEJAD: No, that’s not a reason at all.

      The subject of the Holocaust is a different subject. I raised two or three questions that were very clear about it. I said that, in World War II, 60 million people lost their lives. They were killed. Two million of them were noncivilians, so to say, military. The rest were civilian populations.

      And they all lost their lives. Their lives were all cared for and respected. But why is it that we concentrate so much on the lives of a group among the 60 million?

      The second question is, assuming that this happened, why don’t they allow more research and studies to be done about it? If it is a truth that happened, then we will need more clarity about it. And they … must be impartial groups, or whoever who is interested should be able to do the research. Why is that prevented?

      COOPER: President Bush, at the U.N. … tried to speak directly to the Iranian people yesterday. And he said …

      AHMADINEJAD: Did you get the answer you wanted about the Holocaust?

      COOPER: No, I didn’t, but I know my time is limited.

      http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/09/21/cnna.ahmedinejad/

      When Hymie can’t control the conversation through threats and intimidation, his soft, slimy underbelly is easily exposed.

    5. Filles du Roi's Boi Says:

      qustion = question

      CofCC weighs in: http://countenance.wordpress.com/2006/09/20/why-we-will-lose-the-war-on-terror-2/

      I’m convinced that if this gov’t ever starts rounding up US Whites who are perceived to be enemies of Israel, the CofCC, at least the St. Louis branch, will be right there with them.

    6. silverstein wtc7 Says:

      i second alex:

      ATTACK! ATTACK! ATTACK!

      and on aryan terms. don’t cave to the jew terms. keep sticking it to the jew, don’t let up, make him slither away like the rat that he is.

      it’s time for all of us to come out in the open and figh the jew openly, in the “hard, cold sophoclean light”.

      no more hiding behind the internet. open-battle of words; give no ground. show no fear. it’s the jew who is afraid.

    7. LUX Says:

      I read somewhere and tend to agree with the notion that Iran wants to produce its own fuel for reactors so that it can use depleted uranium for ammunition.

      Presently it must face and Israeli army that has this superior form of ammo.
      The question of nuke doesn’t bother the top jews nearly as much as tons of DU spread around the Promised Land.

    8. Carpenter Says:

      The scope of his determination to dominate not only the airwaves but the debate became evident yesterday evening,

      He wants to “dominate.” He “oozes polite hostility.” (To conjure the image of bodily functions, such as “oozing” like a slug, is a time-honored trick.) He is a “master of deception.”

      He settled back into his seat with a broad smile that some in the group described as a smirk.

      Some in the group – who? What are their names?

      These little details are everywhere, creeping into people’s minds, giving them mental images. Facts are much less important.

      This guy is the real deal – amazing. Amazing that a leader of a so-so important country in our time would question the Holocaust. A guy, whose country the ZOG cannot invade. No, they won’t invade, and they won’t nuke, but they will get Ahmadinejad somehow. Assassination? Probable. Economic isolation, no matter what it would cost the U.S. taxpayer to get other countries to go along with it? Also probable.

    9. Kievsky Says:

      Mr. Ahmadinejad’s habit of answering every question about Iranian policy with a question about American policy was clearly wearing on some of the members, but at the end they acknowledged that he was about as skillful an interlocutor as they had ever encountered. “He is a master of counterpunch, deception, circumlocution,’’ Mr. Scowcroft said, shaking his head. Mr. Blackwill emerged from the conversation wondering how the United States would ever be able to negotiate with this Iranian government

      You really get a sense of the arrogance of the ZOG political establishment in this NYT article. Sometimes you only see them as they are, when someone comes along and trounces them.

      They seem to be very unaccustomed to losing any kind of confrontation. Ahmedinajad is a hero.

    10. Brian Gareth Martivale Says:

      I’m having an on-going debate with a coworker about the Holocaust. He keeps bringing up what “General Patton saw with his own eyes at liberated camps.” Does anyone know a good link or website that has some info on what Patton reported? Thanks.

    11. Keeping It Real Says:

      Brian

      Here’s a couple of link that may help you.

      http://www.israelect.com/reference/WillieMartin/George_Patton.htm
      http://www.originaldissent.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6199

      This isn’t the original source for General Pattons quotes, but one of them says;

      “Having immediately recognized the Soviet danger and urged a course of
      action which would have freed all of eastern Europe from the communist
      yoke with the expenditure of far less American blood than was spilled in
      Korea and Vietnam and would have obviated both those later wars not to
      mention World War III ‑‑ Patton next came to appreciate the true nature
      of the people for whom World War II was fought: the Jews.

      Most of the Jews swarming over Germany immediately after the war came
      from Poland and Russia, and Patton found their personal habits
      shockingly uncivilized.

      He was disgusted by their behavior in the camps for Displaced Persons
      (DP’s) which the Americans built for them and even more disgusted by
      the way they behaved when they were housed in German hospitals and
      private homes. He observed with horror that “these people do not
      understand toilets and refuse to use them except as repositories for tin
      cans, garbage, and refuse . . . They decline, where practicable, to use
      latrines, preferring to relieve themselves on the floor.”

      He described in his diary one DP camp, “where, although room existed,
      the Jews were .crowded together to an appalling extent, and in practically
      every room there was a pile of garbage in one corner which was also used
      as a latrine. The Jews were only forced to desist from their nastiness and
      clean up the mess by the threat of the butt ends of rifles. Of course, I
      know the expression ‘lost tribes of Israel’ applied to the tribes which
      disappeared ‑‑ not to the tribe of Judah from which the current sons of
      bitches are descended.

      However, it is my personal opinion that this too is a lost tribe ‑‑ lost to all decency.”

    12. Coup d'Etat Says:

      More true men need to follow the footsteps of Ahmadinejad. He knows how to deal with the media and knows every twist and turn the jew uses in its propaganda in order to shut them up. White men can learn from this. There is no question the jews need to be rounded up in America and destroyed. They are killing off White Americans with their sick jewish society that they feel they have rights to. One day we will all rise against the perverted jews and they will be kicked out of America for good, be brought to justice, and they will never live in any other society again. They are losing power as each day goes by and anything they do to try to stop it, they will see wrath like they have never seen before. Little by little their little dark dirty secrets will be revealed and everyone will know the jews will need to be annihilated.

    13. ahminanajad or whateve the fuck his name his... Says:

      ahmininajad or whatever the fuck his name is is a MODEL for how whites ought to be showing courage and not cowering before the almighty kike.
      yes, i said that ahmininajad or whatever…
      hell yeah, he’s a persian, or farsi, or whatever the fuck you call those iranians.
      it’s my understanding they have more than their share of aryan genes rolling around in there, but correct me if i’m wrong.
      something seems mighty aryan of him in his forthrightness and honesty and BALL BUSTING FEARLESSNESS IN COMBAT against the jooooo.
      so come on, you cowered white man, pounded into fear of the rat jew, who’s really a fucking coward, by the jew box cable connected filth machine.
      how about emulating ahminininajadawhatever; no, how about BEING A TRUE FEARLESS ARYAN. you think that you would live forever? you want to be lying on your death bed thinking back on all that you wanted to do and didn’t. ahmininananananjadawhatever won’t have that problem…

    14. Lutjens Says:

      “# Brian Gareth Martivale Says:
      23 September, 2006 at 8:58 am

      I’m having an on-going debate with a coworker about the Holocaust. He keeps bringing up what “General Patton saw with his own eyes at liberated camps.” Does anyone know a good link or website that has some info on what Patton reported? Thanks.”

      Your coworker has been disillusioned like everyone else :) I see someone else posted some Patton links so I will post these for you.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SuAAQ4cKCE

      73,000 deaths at Auschwitz, not 4 million or 1.5 million or whatever. Tell your colleague right there that Auschwitz is a pure lie designed to swindle the West of billions for the sake of Israel, the biggest international crime syndicate of all time. You will never find a more ruthless bunch of murdering gangsters anywhere in the world.

      Red Cross link:

      http://www.redcross.org/services/intl/holotrace/questions.html

      Q. How long will the services of the Holocaust and War Victims Tracing Center be needed?

      A. According to the American Gathering of Holocaust Survivors, in the United States alone, there are currently 280,000 Holocaust survivors and family members. With such a large number of potential inquiries, it is difficult to predict when the last Holocaust-era tracing case will reach the Holocaust and War Victims Tracing Center. Based on current interest in our tracing and information services, the number of people who have yet to learn about our program and the continuous discovery of additional documentary information, we believe our work could go on for many years.

      It appears the Red Cross now buys into their 6 million fantasy also but as you can see, only 280,000 here in the States and remember by far, the kike population in the States is the largest population of lying and conniving and swindling sheenies in the world. The Gregory video reports 400,000 casualties across ALL concentration camps, as the documents kept by the Germans proved. Always remember that Jews are liars. Many of the Holohoax survivor stories have been proven false, the biggest one, Elie Wiesel, that lying Jew fuck. 280,000 is nowhere near 6 million and will never be. It’s almost 20 years since the Soviet ‘documents’ have been released and the numbers camp deaths still do not approach anywhere near 6 million, instead maybe 400,000 to 500,000. I would be willing to bet that less than half of those were actually kikes. What we really don’t hear is the number of deaths at the hands of the Jewish communists in the Soviet gulags and European concentration camps after WW II. If your buddy wants to know about a holocaust, tell him about 12 million Germans expelled from Prussia, Silesia, and Pomerania (now under Polish control) and the 2.5 million deaths and 1.9 million rapes of women and girls before and after WW II.

    15. Gandalf the White Says:

      Yes Dr. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, President of the Islamic Republic of Iran, has much experience in dealing with his opponents. He developed his skills during the resistance and the Islamic Revolution.

      He has courage because he understands the truth of life. He is a true teacher at University and he lives a spiritual life, does not drink alcohol and has few possessions to worry about.

      He has the support of millions who will give their lives without question. He knows what great cowards American soldiers are from what they did to German children during WW2. He knows a lot of things. For instance that the “Holocaust” is total myth.

      He has been in contact with revisionists and white nationalists. If any of you are interested his email address is:

      [email protected]

      You will most likely not reach him directly but i am sure that sensible emails written politely may come to be read by his staff. Don’t expect a personal reply though.

      So go ahead and thank him for his work.

      Iran is on a war footing now and moving its mobile missiles every few hours to a new location. They have also aquired 29 Russian anti-missiles Tor M-1 systems which can intercept anything the US can lauch at Iran including nukes. In addition they are currently installing the worlds most advanced passive radar system which can detect ALL American stealth aircraft at a very long range. http://www.rense.com/general73/detect.htm

      At this moment special US units have infiltated Iran and are carrying out special opperations including target identification and terrorist acts against the Iranian people.

      So perhaps unbeknown to you, Iran is already at war with the USA and the Jews.

      In any upcoming full scale publicly visible war with Iran, the USA will be mauled very badly and will probably resort to a massive nuke retaliatory attack – which is being planed as a contingency right now. Their problem is finding a suitable excuse. Perhaps another 9/11?.

      Iran will get the same treatment which NAZI Germany and Japan got. However Iran will not repeat the German mistakes. They will go for total war immediately and seek the total destruction of ALL Americans using very creative methods. They know they will die and therefore make such a death of it that even God will be stunned. bear in mind that these people are Aryans wh know what America did to Germany! They are also Islamic [the fighting religion].

      I do not believe however that Russia and China will become involved during this initial phase. Indeed they wish for the humiliation of the USA by a conflict with Iran.

      It is possible that other Mid East Countries may become involved and it is possible that Israel will suffer massive loss of life – perhaps from Syria and Lebanon. The media will say it is another “Holocaust” and it may be a justification to use nukes against Syria and Iran.

      This will be the turning point and eventually lead to the True Holocaust – World War 3 – in which all Americans will be exterminated and also many Jews. I have already seen it in a terrible vision. Unfortunately many Jews will escape because they are so cunning [or live in Russia and Australia] and have so carefully put the blame on America that everyone believes it.

      Very few people hate Jews but an immense number of people world wide hate America. Exactly like Germans were and still are hated today!

      So sadly, the vermin will persist after Americans are no more. It will then be left for others to get rid of this abomination. The Jews will probably be naturally absorbed as China and Russia take over the Earth. It will be a new era. An era were the remaining Jews will have to adapt or perish.

      Of course it is possible that the American-Jewish attack on Iran will become the legendary battle of Minas Tirith with other nations coming to her aid and perhaps also triggering a revolution in America. I see this as a possibility but it is a remote one – one in need of mirracles.

      What can you do?

      Overthrow your Government ASAP and depose every Jew in a position of power in your land. But consider how difficult that task would be. It is not realistic in the short term is it? You don’t have the required 70% of the population behind you. You don’t even have 20% who would be willing to give their lives.

      Since you can’t do that, life must run its tragic course. Amadinajad knows this! He does not hate Americans. He knows exactly the trap you are in.

      Gandalf the White

    16. silvrstein wtc7 Says:

      agreed: less AMERICAN bashing and more JEW BASHING!!!

    17. Scipio Americanus Says:

      Alex says: “Attack, attack, attack! Never defend, only attack.”

      Alex, you are 100% correct! Quoting Revilo P. Oliver: “It will suffice to note that, first, in war and in politics defensive tactics always fail against a determined and persistent enemy. If you think there are exceptions, think them over.” Keep firing away, all guns blazing! Kosher Inc. may not like it, but in the immortal words of my high school Algebra teacher: “tough bananas!” It is damn well time we turn the tables on “G-d’s Chosen People” and give the Sheenies a taste of their own medicine. The difference is that we speak the truth, while they peddle falsehood.

    18. Scipio Americanus Says:

      Gandalf the White: I do not think the neoconservatives have the political capital to initiate a war with Iran. I have no doubt this is what they want, but whether they can pull it off is entirely debatable. Obviously, Kosher Inc., via their media outlets, is pushing for war but what the hell are we going to go to war with? Our armed forces are maxed out. War would constitute a draft and that is not politically feasible. Only some horrific “terrorist” attack would motivate Boobus Americanus (the American sheeple) and even this may not be enough given Bush’s popularity which is in the toilet. The man is hated here in the United States, for both domestic and foreign policy reasons. We do not live in a dictatorship — yet.

      You speak of war as if it is a forgone conclusion. Only time will tell but given what you stated, please explain to me how Lord Bush is going to pull it off. Hell, he just may be facing an impeachment proceeding if the Democrats win big in November (many of them are calling for this and are on record.) Some people think the Israelis will be used as a surrogate to initiate the war. How? They just had their heads handed to them by a bunch of rag heads in Lebanon — they are demoralized. And I must correct you on one thing — Israel is the most hated country on earth, followed by its parent and abettor — the Jew Ess Aye. Israel will not do a damn thing, regardless of what their politicians say, without U.S. approval, with regards to attacking Iran. If the United States is not in a position to go to war, regardless of the reasons, then our Middle Eastern attack dog will heal as his master wishes. Once again, please explain to me how the United States, given it’s domestic and international constraints, will initiate a war with Iran.

      PS: I wouldn’t rely on Rense.com — that site is a smorgasbord of disinformation. Some of what is posted is true, and some of it is so absurd that only a brain dead moron could believe it. Only trust stories that you can verify via multiple sources. Yes, that takes some time but given the incessant propaganda coming from all sides of the political spectrum these days, that is the only prudent approach a rational man can take, coupled with good old common sense!

    19. Gandalf the White Says:

      Lartest on Dr. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, President of the Islamic Republic of Iran.

      He has good advisors in America!

      Please go to my website:

      http://www.quatzikosahan.com/Home_01.htm

      If you don’t want to be offended by my revolutionary site then go directly to:

      http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/president_of_iran.html

      Best wishes to you all

      And Alex, please stay in there and kick Kike ass and dont let those bastards wear you down. You have allies all over the planet. A great awakining will soon take place.

      Gandalf the White.

    20. Gandalf the White Says:

      I love what Scipio Americanus wrote.

      Good food for thought.

      Yes most likely America is not about to go into terminal disaster. Dr. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad knows this and it accounts for his spunk!

      But one has to remember that just as there are insane peeple among the sheeple, there are insane people among the elite. What if the American executive is controlled by insane people? Am not stating they are. But what if?

      I would expect the US military establishment to revolt, because those people have experience. But there is no revolt in sight though i hear rumours from inside sources i can’t revewal.

      The USA does not need ground troups if they don’t intend to do regime change in Iran.

      So Iran can be bombed into the stone age and it will so remain. No regime change required. The Iranians will lauch terrorist attacks of course and perhaps kill a million Americans but like Churchhill did by provoking Germany it is exactly what they want to get your Yankie hatred up.

      Of course Israel is out of the equation. Hitler knew that long ago. He was not fighting Jews but Judaphiles who are far worse!!! I even admire Jews compared the Jew-loving-Chistians or Holocaust-worshiping-Atheists.

      The enemy is in the USA and not in Israel.

      I could tell you how easy it was for Hezbolla to take out two IDF tanks per day. At that rate the Jews would have no armour left if that war continued for another month. So THEY needed the cease fire. I know all that becaue i track it meticulously.

      Yes of course the Jews are bluffing, but they also have a more sinister side which you don’t understand! A side we Germans have experienced. You can have no conception of the horrors they inflicted on the German people unless you watch Peter Jackson’s TLOTR saga based on the Tolkien Epic in which he characterizes the Jews as the Orcs. They blackened the Earth and distorted our souls with horrors.

      We desperately need American support. Do not fall for the trap of hating Islam. The Islamists are easily contained in a Jew-free world. They are not our enemy. Our enemy is the Jew! More specifically Jewish Memes.

      Gandalf the White.

    21. Mati The Estonian Says:

      best of us white people now – its the kikes not USA population.
      but guys – you NEED solid strategy to get this info to everyone in the world.
      in few posts back I told to make aryan move to Independent Party -take it over and so worth …
      some people told me its the waist of time – maybe but look germans – they started it AGAIN first political platform and after that kikes are in more troubleto atack them. same things aplays to US – take this bloddy thing over but some guy nobody knows yet in front (some nice good aryan fellow) so its hard to kikes bashing him and propaganda, propaganda and one more time – THATS THE F**ING PROPAGANDA you must do daily – like those flags in overpasses graffti with vnn.com and other stuff – people around you must now you existance. just hundreds of postcards with slogan “information for YOU – vnn.com” let everyone come and read – blacks kikes muds EVERYONE – let them make hassle over it in TV radia EVERY BLOODY place – its a free advertaising guys.
      in a last 2-3 years back in Estonia from USA I have been able “turning” atleast (personally) 20-30 head about kikes &world issues. its not much. but if only few of them can do the 50% what I did and soworth the numbers are rising. people must have informationso WHEN the time comes they now wich side to take …

    22. matti needs a translator Says:

      matti, i appreciate your posts, and they have good content, but jeezuhz! i have a hard time reading them.
      i know english is your second language. maybe the moderator can help out a bit and translate some of what matti writes so we can read it easier.
      thank you very much.

    23. Scipio Americanus Says:

      “But one has to remember that just as there are insane peeple among the sheeple, there are insane people among the elite. What if the American executive is controlled by insane people? Am not stating they are. But what if?”

      Actually, I do believe that our ruling establishment is insane — they are completely detached from reality and that is evident by their own words and actions. Reality, however, is not negotiable, despite what they may think in their twisted minds. They will learn this soon enough.

      “Yes of course the Jews are bluffing, but they also have a more sinister side which you don’t understand!”

      I do understand this sinister side. It is clear to me what they want but the question remains whether they will be able to proceed with it in the near future. “They blackened the Earth and distorted our souls with horrors.” I agree with this completely. “G-d’s Chosen People” are soul destroyers and that is unique to them and is the reason why they are so hated among people who understand this fact, IMHO. What they have done to Germans (and I’m half German) during and after WW 2 via the United States’ war and propaganda machine is an unspeakable crime.

      “Do not fall for the trap of hating Islam. The Islamists are easily contained in a Jew-free world. They are not our enemy. Our enemy is the Jew! More specifically Jewish Memes.”

      Yes, Islam, while not friendly to the West in the long run, is not our primary enemy. We came to an unwritten agreement long ago with the Muslims — they don’t bother us and we don’t bother them. That is how it should be. Unfortunately, Jewish inspired schemes of world domination have disrupted that unwritten agreement. But keep in mind, you now have millions of Muslims now residing in the heart of our beloved Europe — that is a big problem and one that will grow even bigger in the future. The West is under attack from all sides, internally and externally, and the creatures at the vanguard of this assault are the Jews. Thanks for responding, Gandulf the White. Please accept my very best wishes.

    24. Prescient Says:

      I predicted waaaay back in early 2005 that the USA was going to lose a warship (probably an older aircraft carrier) in the Persian Gulf due to an anti-ship missile coming out of Iran. A Chinese-made Silkworm anti-ship missile to be exact.

      Of course, the Iranians will have had nothing to do with the sinking, as it will be a black-ops false-flag. CIA, Mossad, maybe both. Why do you all think “American” troops are already in Iran? They are there to prepare the false-flag which will ignite WW III.

      The Sheeple of the USA will march their own sons (and daughters) down to the local recruiting office to sign them up to fight “terrorism,” as the talMUDvision shows, over and over again, the sinking of the warship which *just happens* to have been caught on video by a “passing amatuer photographer.”

      Oy vey!

    25. Mitchell Says:

      It may be true that americans are hated by many. But I also think that the jews are especially hated by many. Possibly even more so. We just don’t here about it as much. After all , they do control our jobs, banks, and media.

      Right now, zionism is indeed the most dangerous thing on this planet. The pure root evil of all. First and foremost, zionism is the cause of all our wars. Mel Gibson was right. He knew he was right. Then he had to be a coward and take it all back.

      He didn’t want to lose his job and connections. Not only that, the media could make his life a living hell with their fraud laden attacks on a person’s reputation.

      That’s how powerful and evil zionism is.

    26. Francesca Says:

      My hero!