8 August, 2007

VNNB Free Talk Live – August 7th 2007

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Free Talk Live, with hosts OnThePathToTruth and Executor.


  • 5 Responses to “VNNB Free Talk Live – August 7th 2007”

    1. old goat Says:

      freemasonry is christianity….no jaysus, just baphomet, goat fekkers, Ball, moloch and liberal greek blowhard philosophers…All you dumb f#cks have been sucked in by their 80 masonic lodges in Israel.. Of course that’s the tip of the Iceberg/goldberg…..The vatican and windsor castle are the MOTHER LODES !!! What a rash of HORSESHIT especially the nigger freemason mothas and brothas..

    2. new goat Says:

      yep, stupid assed british con men wth deep pockets and empty heads assembled to become the sweathogs for the temple mount…RED MOON RISING.com gives a neat overview of these crackheads !!!

    3. New America Says:

      You do have moments of crystalline clarity around certain issues, and Billy Bob has demonstrated such an overpowering lack of knowledge that he virtually validates the exact opposite of his beliefs.

      Billy Bob’s arguments are, essentially, that Mrs. Kevin Alfred Strom is a “federal witness,” which is different from being a “federal agent.”

      Nothing, it would seem, could be further from the truth.

      If you think that Federal agencies haven’t asked all manner of questions of Mrs. Kevin Alfred Strom, and received all manner of fascinating answers, you are simply so naive as to be not worthy of discussion.

      As to Billy Bob’s admonition, “Let’s cut the crap, and get behind Alex on this,” let me remind one and all that I have contributed damn useful ideas for improving VNN/VNNF, and they are available for all to see on the “Open Thread” link to your right.

      I have also sent money to Alex, and have done so with regularly; in spite of my policy differences with him, I have supported him, and have ended several posts with the reminder that it is more important to send a little money, each and every month, than a lot of money, “when you get it.”

      I was also pretty much first out of the gate with the idea that VNN has to focus on being a news analysis source first, and ideas of activism will always fail because they have never been placed in a broad analytical framework where there is room for everyone who wishes to define ALL societal issues in terms of RACE – First, Foremost, Forever. By this I mean RACE, writ large, as the Living Bridge between Family and Culture; in practice, Family, as the microcosm of RACE, and RACE, as the macrocosm of Family.

      Thus, my credentials, both in supporting VNN, and adding value to White Nationalism/Western Nationalism through my comments on this, the VNN “Main Page”/blog, can not be disputed. Incidentally, my comments on restructuring VNN/F still seem remarkably valid…

      That having been said, the idea that ANYONE in this “not-quite-a-Movement-but-working-on-it” is above constructive criticism is simply a non-starter, in an Adult world.

      The Wise among us acknowledge this; we acknowledge the personal weaknesses of others, and work with them, and around their weaknesses, whenever possible. This is true whether it is Pierce, working with Kevin Alfred Strom’s personal and professional limits, or those of us who noted how the life seem to die a little bit in Pierce, when Robert Mathews suffered his untimely end.

      We acknowledge the weaknesses of others; we do not suffer them gladly, or place ourselves at the mercy of these weaknesses, or these errors, and these omissions.

      I stood (with great trepidation) with Alex during Porngate, seeing the Light in the Darkness – the failures of the paper/print model in an age of mass illiteracy – as the signal that we MUST move to a more visual means for communicating our message. Chain led the way with his work on YouTube, and opened doors to us that we have yet to walk through.

      Yes, Linder was wrong to place vile pornography on the “Front Page” of VNN, and he admits that.

      Still, we all paid a price when people who we encouraged to go to the VNN Main Page contacted us, and said “WTF is going ON here?”

      We, and our Cause, lost credibility, and GOD, but we have so little credibility remaining in so many quarters, in spite of the fact that we have the best Idea, and the best Ideals.

      I have argue that ALL of our activities must be placed in the Analytical Framework of establishing our own Nation, in our own Country, along the lines defined so well by Harold Covington in his “Northwest Trilogy.”

      And, as I have stated elsewhere, Mrs. Kevin Alfred Strom has not come on VNN Free Talk Live – or VNN, or VNN/F, or her own website to explain anything, much less so many things…

      Has not, and, from what I can see, WILL NOT.

      And that’s fine; it’s her right.

      But, Billy Bob, do not DARE patronize us by telling us to ignore the situation before us, and what it means to us, who have supported VNN, and White Nationalism, by telling us that it’s time to put everything behind us, when there is so much right in front of us, stopping us, that we need to think of this, not as the first down of a new game, but as third-and-long, in a game where we are not yet on the board.

      It’s third-and-long, and we can’t get even one on the Board; Harold Covington laid out how we can be successful politically, in both the smallest and largest of political systems.

      Henceforth, I will be framing all issues and discussions in that Light, as anything else reflects the track record of ineptitude, and incompetence that has been the hallmark of what has passed for “White Nationalism” to date.

      I trust Linder will continue to keep Mrs. Kevin Alfred Strom away from anything having to do with administering the “Main Page”/blog, save posting.

      New America

      An Idea Whose Time Is HERE!

    4. Billy Bob Says:

      I’m sure you are well intentioned.

      But, you have purposely or not,

      mis-represented the arguments I presented.

      You have egregiously put words into my mouth,

      which have only been uttered by you

      in your commentary

      and in your chosen perceived understanding.

      I would urge all interested to carefully listen

      to what was actually said.

      And as always,

      take everything that has been stated in it’s proper context.

      Thanks.

    5. New America Says:

      in reply to billy bob:

      Let people listen and decide for themselves.

      There is SOMETHING much more important happening.

      You dealt with the Linder Intervention show of 6 aug 07, and this totally spontaneous show demonstrated why the Distributed Intelligence/Distributed Intelligent Activism model works.

      In this show, you see what the White Nationalist/Western Nationalist Concept has always needed; real, no-bullshit Men who know HOW the world works, and WHAT needs to be done to make it right.

      Speaking without fear or favor, Mark from Cali, Todd, Bud White and Dietrich spoke cleanly, openly, honestly, and from the heart, and what you will hear is the best Intervention you will ever hear.

      Simply stated, Alex Linder was pulled out by the Elders for a Talking To. This wasn’t a “Talk,” in the Feminine model of being “non-judgmental” and all of that crap, which only leads to impotence.

      This was straight from the hip, no bullshit, “Son, you have fucked uo big-time, and things have to get right, or get gone.”

      What you also saw was the entire range of Positive Masculinity, from Marl in Cali’s and Todd’s forthright criticism of Linder’s recent actions concerning Mrs. Kevin Alfred Strom, to Dietrich’s quietly poignant questions to Linder (paraphrased), “If you needed people to do these things, why didn’t you ask me? Why didn’t you talk to me? I have proven I know what I am doing? Why?”

      Jesus, your heart just breaks when you hear him saying this…

      There are very few issues that deal with the transformation of the Masculine Archetype from Man, as a matter of Form, to Man, as a matter of Substance.

      Perhaps the best of these is “Cat On A Hot Tin Roof,” where Paul Newman struggles to transcend the false limits he had accepted, while his brother tells their Father, “Didn’t I do what you told me? You said to go to memphis and be a lawyer. I did. You said get married and have children, and I did. But it’s always Brick, Brick , Brick!!” (Brick was the character played by Paul Newman, who was manifesting his impotence, and anger, in alcoholism, and refusing to be intimate with his wife, the young and very beautiful Elizabeth Taylor.)

      Anger, true, real, down to the bone and cut the bone anger – acted to clear out the fog of deception, lies, and “mendacity” that had blocked the spiritual growth of Paul Newman.

      ACCEPTING THE CLEANSING POWER OF ANGER, PAUL NEWMAN ACCEPTS HIS BIRTHRIGHT, AND TAKES THE FIRST STEPS TO MANHOOD, AND FULFILLING HIS DUTY, AND HIS DESTINY. HE IS ACCEPTING THE ENERGY THAT THIS ANGER OPENED UP TO HIM, AND IS TRANSFORMING IT TO FULFILL HIS RESPONSIBILITY TO HIS FAMILY, AND HIS RACE.

      In short, he accepted the anger, the violence it called forth, and used the power of Violence to solve everything.

      Yes, Violence Solves Everything.

      (Yes, it’s available on DVD, and yes, I am using it as a microcosm of the reasons for the failure of White Nationalist/Western Nationalist Concept to be, with a few rare exceptions, anything more than the intellectual equivalent of mutual masturbation; all activity, and no productivity.)

      Mark’s rage was on a par with that created by betrayal, as was Todd;s, and, to a degree, as was Bud White’s. i think the lesson all walked away was that we had to BE what we wanted the world to BECOME. Linder can’t do it for us, Pierce couldn’t do it for us, Rockwell couldn’t do it for us, and they are all wondering what on Earth is stopping us from doing it ourselves.

      none of us is perfect; I cringed as I hear Linder bob and weave, dancing away from cleanly answering ONE question: “WHAT are these remarkable talents and abilities Mrs. Kevin Alfred Strom brings to VNN Forum?”

      After going to every length possible, including allowing Mrs. Kevin Alfred Strom to come on VNN FTL with Alex running the show, to make sure she feels safe and comfortable…

      I turned off the computer, and walked away after I heard that.

      This is a woman who has demonstrated NO skills at vBulletin, NO skills at PHP, NO skills with the LAMP Framework, but, somehow, SHE was a full Administrator at VNN/F, with the power to harvest IPs for whatever purpose she chooses. THIS, while Mrs. Kevin Alfed Strom is a FEDERAL Witness, working very closely with FEDERAL prosecutors…

      This, with Linder’s full support, and full approval…

      In my “Open Thread” comments – available in the list to your right – I have argued for daily server log wipes, and setting vBulletin to not collect IP addresses at all.

      Everyone who posted on VNN/F is now asking themselves why this hasn’t been done, and isn’t being done…

      Linder kept avoiding the obvious, simple answers which revealed the obvious, simple truth, and I went to bed that night thinking, “Yes, once again, we can’t do even the simplest of things correctly. We are like Children, unwilling to learn even the simplest of lessons in any area of human endeavor.”

      I realized VNN/F is like the Aryan Alternative, an idea developed in one place, and one time, that needs to be redefine, and closely targeted, to be in the slightest bit relevant in this place, and this time.

      I believe, more than ever, that Harold Covington’s painfully gained experience can be put the the good of all.

      Some years back, Covington wrote of someone who would always appear when a White Nationalist group was beginning to be effective. This person worked quietly, slowly, and always seemed to disappear for a few weeks at a time. In time, suddenly, the organization was destroyed from within, and could not rebuild. He said this was absolutely masterful, and it took him several experiences to realize what had happened, and how it was done.

      Mrs. Kevin Alfred Strom damn near did that to VNN,/F, to the point that she appeared, overnight, with full Administrator privileges. This, mind you, from a woman who seems to have videos of her husband masturbating to pictures on his computer screen, and seems to have recorded marital counseling sessions, placing selective snippets of these on the Internet.

      WHY was she trusted, and HOW LONG she had been corresponding with Linder, we shall never know.

      And I don’t care.

      What I saw was the Distributed Intelligence work in the framework of Distributed Intelligent Activism, to see clearly what was wrong, and define cleanly what needed to be done.

      What I saw was the Men who will lead us into the Future take the responsibility to BE what they wanted the world to BECOME, and were not limited by Linder’s conception, or activism. They worked within Linder’s strengths, and tried to transform his weaknesses into strengths, among them the strength of moral clarity, to see clearly what was happening to VNN/F at the hands of Mrs. Kevin Alfred Strom, and the strength of moral courage, to do what HAD to have been done to save all that Linder had worked for, all of his life.

      I note, as I have noted before, that Covington has defined the Analytic Model for ALL White RACIAL Activity, in that if an action is inconsistent with the elements of Covington’s Model, it simply should be rejected outright. This goes from the smallest flyer drop, to the founding of our own Nation, in our own RACIAL Homeland.

      I look at the viewership numbers on VNN/F, and realize that we seem to have made precious little headway, after SEVEN YEARS.

      Yet, I am hopeful, as the critical mass of QUALITATIVELY superior people have been attracted to White Nationalism has resulted in the people that can make a difference, making a difference, by BEING what they want the world to BECOME.

      Again, I remind one and all to go to Edgar Steele’s website, and download his mp3 of “Let’s Get Small.”

      Finally, I remind one and all that it really serves the RACIAL interests of all of us to send some money to Alex Linder – the address is on your screen – each and every month.

      While we can.

      New America

      An Idea Whose Time Is HERE!