4 October, 2007

Western Women These Days, Part II

Posted by Socrates in feminism, Feminists, New World Order, Socrates at 4:59 pm | Permanent Link

You can thank Jews like Betty Friedan for America’s part-time wives/part-time mothers phenomenon, which has spread to every White country [1]:

[Article].

[1] about Friedan: [Here] and [Here]


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  7. 79 Responses to “Western Women These Days, Part II”

    1. BigDick Says:

      Well, well, well.
      I thought sure it was Fall with an early Winter coming but now it looks like Indian Summer.
      Yeah, you beat him Summer. Give a dummy enough rope and watch him hang himself.
      Draw him out, get him talking, and he will convict himself out of his own mouth.
      The police use that method all the time. Interesting to see it happen here. Next time warn him that everything he says will be taken down and used against him.
      Take a break, needs a break.

    2. Summer Says:

      Not to go against men at all but I wanted to ask this. (Especially for those men who hate us women.)

      If men are supposed to be the protectors and providers where were they to protect the white women when the government changed them? Where were they to say ‘no this is my woman, these are our women not yours and you will not change them with your radical jewish propaganda!”

      Think about that instead of blaming women. Women have a following mentality. They’re supposed to follow their husbands, for example. When there aren’t good husbands to follow they look for someone else to follow. They might not be concious about it but women were made to follow not to lead.

      Does anyone get that at all? Just wondering …

    3. Sgt. Skull Says:

      Criticizing women doesn’t make one a jew, summer. As a display of your hypocrisy and arrogance you resort to name calling and personal insults if some of us don’t agree with your characterizations of men. You calling me bitter is like the pot calling the kettle black based on your posts. Don’t blame me for your poor choices of men in the past and for you to think that all of us men are just xbox playing and lazy pinheads shows your lack of worldliness. Some women aren’t happy unless their riding that emotional rollercoaster 24/7 and unstable, sociopathic and abusive men often give you what your looking for. Decent, honest, hardworking men are just boring to today’s spoiled women. Women cheat just as much as men do especially if the man isn’t meeting their long list of ever changing “needs”.

      I see non-white women lending their moral support to organizations that advance their racial interests and rallying around their men. Sadly, most white women rally around nothing except someone who can shower them with money. I would go into cardiac arrest if I ever heard a white women say she wanted a white man of good character. May our race and this country would be in better shape if white women did a better job of choosing their mates.

    4. Summer Says:

      “””you resort to name calling and personal insults if some of us don’t agree with your characterizations of men.”””

      And starting it off by calling women names and saying we are all feminists is ok? So I should just sit back and get bashed but not insult anyone back? I don’t remember insulting you. I only insult people like *needs a dick.*

      “”Don’t blame me for your poor choices of men in the past and for you to think that all of us men are just xbox playing and lazy pinheads shows your lack of worldliness.”””

      My views on guys nowadays has nothing to do with past relationships. I am not 40 years old. I am young and have not been experienced in that field. Like I said in one of my posts you don’t need to have a relationship to see that men of my generation are lazy, xbox playing pinheads. Nor do you need to be in a relationship to see women do not want to be mothers anymore. Just look around you. If your eyes are closed you would be blind to this bs but if they are open you’d see it. You must be stupid (not you personally) if you can not see how lazy everyone is nowadays. And yes I will bash typical guys. I bash typical women moreso than men anyways. You people bash us, why can’t we bash you too? (I’m not saying either is right but I was trying to pinpoint out that not everyone is like that.)

      “””women aren’t happy unless their riding that emotional rollercoaster 24/7 and unstable, sociopathic and abusive men often give you what your looking for.”””

      Actually I am very happy. I have the best man in the world at my side and the most beautiful daughter at my other side. And I hate men like that.

      “””Decent, honest, hardworking men are just boring to today’s spoiled women. Women cheat just as much as men do especially if the man isn’t meeting their long list of ever changing “needs”.”””

      That’s a load of bs unless you are dating or speaking about your typical hollywood want to be. I wouldn’t ask for another man only the qualities of a man you listed above. And I have never said women don’t cheat. I know they do, they do it a lot.

      “””I would go into cardiac arrest if I ever heard a white women say she wanted a white man of good character.””””

      Actually I have said that. And I got one. I said: *honest, loving, caring, a good family man with high morals and manners and on the right path.” Nothing about their looks or how much money is in their banks or what cars they drive. Want to know why? Because I am not that kind of woman! I don’t give a shit about trival bologne. I am more down to earth than you probably realize because for some reason it has been instilled in all mens heads that us down to earth types don’t exist. And guess what I have never ever took my fiancee for granted, ever.

      So, are you in the hospital yet? I’ll send you flowers. :)

      And I doubt you would believe what I said above, because again for some reason it’s been instilled in mens heads us women are all liars! Just like it’s instilled in women’s heads all men are liars. Want to know where that comes from? JEWS! And for some reason I seem to be the only one that knows that and doesn’t think that all men are big fat liars.

      It is so sad so many people fall for what jews have put in our heads.

    5. Summer Says:

      “””women aren’t happy unless their riding that emotional rollercoaster 24/7 and unstable, sociopathic and abusive men often give you what your looking for.”””

      I believe women go for guys like that because to them it is exciting or maybe they think oh he will beat anyone up for me but the thing women don’t get is that the guys who act like their big and tough are generally pussies.

      This goes two ways. Women go for the bad ass, motorcycle assholes and men go for the blonde bimbo fake boobs pamela anderson whore types. So… They are both faulty.

      The women who go for those badass types take those mans faults and assume all men are like that whereas the men who go for whores think all women are bleached fake tit bimbo whores who are using everyone for money.

      Neither is true…

    6. anon Says:

      This thread has devolved to crap. wow.

      Society has not changed just because of the law. This is what I think happened:

      Women were allowed to believe that they should have the right to vote, and they got it. This was seen as reasonably harmless at the time – most women didn’t want to vote anyway.

      Then they started voting and were able to change some laws sometimes. They started convincing themselves that the way they saw things was right and started legislating it. Needless to say, women see things through the filter of their emotions, and tend to think the solution is always just making someone feel better about things, or urging everyone to be good together and get along.

      Law doesn’t work like that. You pass a law, there are difficult-to-foresee incentive effects. Give poor people money, they get lazy. Give people labor rights, they take advantage. etc, etc… Prop up the economy by printing more money and you create inflation… Allow jews to control every political race and you end up with an involuntarily adopted son israel who sucks you dry and can never support himself.

      Allow women freedom to choose, and you end up with too few children. Allow women to work and you effectively reduce salaries such that most women thereafter _must_ work to attain the same standard of living that was achievable before with only one wage-earner.

      Basically, every time you follow the common female view in making a law, you make people feel good in the short term, but create hidden problems down the road.

      Men are able to avoid this by looking dispassionately at the problems of society and choosing the best solutions _regardless_ of how people feel in the short term. In fact, the key is to be able to ignore people’s feelings and do what is known to be right.

      The problems of our society today have stemmed from the influence of women and their way of thought on the public sphere. This has only been possible because men thought it would be harmless and fair to allow women their say. Obviously, they were wrong.

    7. Sgt. Skull Says:

      Men just want a woman who is attractive and someone they can get along with. Women aren’t so simple in their criteria for choosing men. Men, generally, aren’t looking for Pam Anderson types, but most of us do want someone who tries to keep up their physical appearance and acts feminine.

      I agree that women confuse an abusive man’s habits as manliness and confidence. The smarter ones see through the act quick, but many women can’t or won’t and feel it’s their mission to change this type of man. They like the challenge and challenge is exciting. Then again for some it’s the emotional roller coaster ride that provides the fix like an illicit drug.

      To me that’s a very primitive mentality by the female since she will attract the worst sort of man. When she tires of the game she’s used up and cynical. Read Angela Fiori as she captures the hubris, misandry and haughtiness of today’s perfect little princesses and really nails fellow women to the wall.

      Keep in mind that men in the age range you mentioned are products of divorced, single parent homes typically headed by a domineering mother. They never had fathers or father figures to help raise them become good men. Not that some men aren’t dead beats anyway, but women can be very vindictive in a break up and prevent the fathers from seeing their kids.

      Anyway, since male bashing has become a favorite American pastime it’s only fair that women be forced to look in the mirror and have their egos deflated.

    8. MHK Says:

      Where were they to say ‘no this is my woman, these are our women not yours and you will not change them with your radical jewish propaganda!’

      That’s a very good question.

      My personal belief is that centuries of faggy anti-masculine christian brainwashing (along with the jew-like money-worship mentality fostered by capitalism) have stripped white men of their original instinctual need to possess and control their women.

    9. Summer Says:

      “””This thread has devolved to crap. wow”””

      That’s what happens when jews attend this msg board. And no don’t say women, some of us actually have decent and intelligent things to say.

      “””The problems of our society today have stemmed from the influence of women and their way of thought on the public sphere.”””

      At this point white men should have raised and put a stop to it. Like I said in an above thread, women are follows they will always follow the herd, bad herds or good ones. Government should have never asked an opinion of a woman. When they did the jew grabbed ahold of it and twisted it, so that they destroyed us, into what has now become a crappy society.

      “””This has only been possible because men thought it would be harmless and fair to allow women their say. Obviously, they were wrong.”””

      Yes they were wrong. But again how can you blame women for doing something that is only their nature? That would be like women blaming men for protecting them. It’s a mans nature to protect one’s own. Does that make sense? Can’t blame what a person can’t change. We can’t become men, we can’t have the same “grr I’m a fighter and a leader” like men. Who would follow the men if we were like that? It seems like men don’t follow men anymore either, rather they fight against each other for power.

    10. Summer Says:

      “””Keep in mind that men in the age range you mentioned are products of divorced, single parent homes typically headed by a domineering mother. They never had fathers or father figures to help raise them become good men.”””

      I came from a broken home, but I was raised by my father not mother. My real mom was psychotic and my step mom was a psychotic abusive blonde bimbo cunt whore, grr I hate her. Anyways neither knew how to treat children, not getting into that, but I didn’t turn out too bad I don’t think. Not a dyke. Got my head on straight. And actually my father didn’t teach me any of this nationalist stuff. I sought it out on my own. I think I am a good woman, despite not having a mother. The only fault I think I have as a woman is I can’t cook too good, again the lack of a good mother around never to teach me anything about cooking skills ruined that one for me. I still do try though.

      “””since male bashing has become a favorite American pastime it’s only fair that women be forced to look in the mirror and have their egos deflated.”””

      Personally I think white people shouldn’t be bashing each other period. There is no reason too. It just drives us apart and that won’t unite us to fix our race at all.

      =/

    11. Summer Says:

      “””Allow women freedom to choose, and you end up with too few children”””

      This I seriously do not understand. I do not get why women do not want kids. (Other than the obvious reasons they want to have fun their whole lives.) But back then I do not understand why. The bondage of mother and child is so, wow, no words for it. It’s undescribable. Men, I do not think understand, maybe because we carried them inside us for 9 months I don’t know, but I have never felt this way about anything. And the lack of sleep and irratation of the crying and not having any ‘me’ time doesn’t make a damn difference when I look at her and see her smile and make her “coo coo” noises. I don’t know, it’s just… awesome. =)

      But I have heard just as many men as women (if not more) say they don’t want kids. Both are idiots. They just want to party all their lives and bang as many people as they can. Whatever, screw them. Let them get aids and die. They wouldn’t be good parents anyways.

    12. Gerald E. Morris Says:

      Nevermind all the hysterics posted here, which merely further illustrate jew-masonic authored Aryan sexual necrosis in their domain, the CURE for all this sickness begins with total extermination of jews and their collaborators. Only when that is accomplished, will whatever is left of our Race be able to then return to the proper, natural sort of caste (same philological root as CHASTE boys and girls!) traditions which currently are best preserved in Hinduism and it’s analogue in Europe, Roman Catholicism. Our forebears were immensely better off under the natural feudal hierarchy which evolved according to the Base 3 arithmetic Trinitarian caste system described in our anceastral mythology and even in the Church Mysteries. If a certain amount of witch-burning, heretic hanging and such will be necessary to enforce this return, SO MUCH THE BETTER, provided we completely and I mean COMPLETELY EXTERMINATE EVERY JEW ON OUR PLANET! Members of the other races are more likely than not going to thank us if we accomplish this, rather than continue the suicidal idiocy of acting as their strong-arm goon race the way the current masonic “capitalist” system has us doing. Let us turn our attention to the Good Things Aryans Can Look Forward to in sexual relations free of all jew filth!

      Noble Regards and Love,

      Gerald Edward Patrick Morris

    13. Arminius Says:

      I wonder how Summer got all the time to sit here at the computer, callng up VNN, reading, responding and writing awfully long arguments galore- more than anybody else- is there no housework or gardening to be done, or, for that matter, no man to love?

    14. Summer Says:

      Well let’s see, not that this is anyones business. At this moment my fiancee is asleep in bed and my daughter is right beside me falling asleep. She was up screaming so I took her out of our bedroom and just got done feeding her. I do not leave her alone until she is asleep. When she is asleep I go downstairs do dishes, laundry, etc. And clean up as much as I can. (It takes awile for her to fall asleep, in which case I come on here and respond which takes 5 minutes to type an essay.)

      I took her out of the room so he could get some sleep since she was up all night crying. When he gets up the first thing I will do is hug him and kiss him and ask him how he is doing. (Although I know the answer will always be the same I still ask.) Then I will make him a cup of tea and ask him if he is hungry. If he is I make him breakfast. (This is what I do daily.) He sits by my side when we are together, our computers are next to each other. I don’t sit in another room all day and ignore him. I hug and kiss him several times a day but I don’t smother him either. Men don’t like that all day long. Whenever I go downstairs I ask him if he would like anything, tea, food, whatever.

      We don’t live in the same country as you, not the USA I mean and here the landlords take care of the gardening. So… I mean it’s just grass and a few bushes and there isn’t a lawnmower. And I wouldn’t waste my money on a lawnmower if I was told specifically by the landlord “I mow the grass.”

      Now, did that satisfy your wonderment? =)

    15. Sgt. Skull Says:

      I sure hope she doesn’t live in Israel.

    16. Summer Says:

      Ha. Only you would say that. No I live in Ireland actually.

    17. Orion14 Says:

      Why are there jews in Ireland?

    18. Lutjens Says:

      Ireland… nice :) Summer, darling, please tend to your man and child. Let us lonely, boring, inadequate white men make the world a better place for you and your family to live in.

    19. Lutjens Says:

      “I hug and kiss him several times a day but I don’t smother him either. Men don’t like that all day long. Whenever I go downstairs I ask him if he would like anything, tea, food, whatever.”

      They don’t? I, on the other hand, like being smothered and like to do some smothering of my own ;)

    20. Gerard Montblanc Says:

      This whole postmodern male/female conflict is just a symptom of the underlying problem: The Jews/pseudo Jews/oligarchs or whatever the fuck you want to call them have total control of our media, education system, government, blah blah blah and therefore total control of the minds of the masses. Most people, regardless of sex, will never be able to break through their multi-layered brainwashing until they are materially deprived and reduced back to or nearly back to the state of nature. Until then, mass women will act like the ho-bags MTV programs them to be. For that matter, I think you could convince a good percentage of the population to do anything right down to and including eating a heaping helping pile of dog shit if they thought it was the “ultima moda.”

      I’ve been married to one woman for a long time and we raised kids together to adulthood. All of them went on or are now going on to graduate from college, etc. On the surface, we look like the All American “poster family.” Does this mean that things are hunky dory? That I’ve found this mythical perfect help mete that the males on this thread mistakenly believe women can actually become in our dysfunctional society, or that I myself am the perfect respectful ever helpful hardworking “John Wayne” the women on this thread are so desperately seeking? No, because neither one of these exists. Why? To start with, I have never met a woman in my life who could (1) think in a purely logical manner without the injection of emotion, (2) truly gave a rat’s ass about much of anything beyond the front door of her own house, or (3) was capable of withstanding societal pressure and thinking independently. Sure, there are woman like Summer who see the broad outlines of the problem, but they do not realize the full import of its resolution; namely that their public voice will be muted when and if things are ever “set right.” These stupid public spleen venting battle of the sexes tiffs will simply not occur in a non-pussified society because once men are re-empowered, they will put a stop to it. I was asleep for a long time; a pig in shit riding the gravy train. I guess I stumbled into Pierce’s audio stuff 5 or 6 years ago and that opened my eyes. I then went on a WN reading rampage, the usual. After all that, I made a big fucking mistake and started talking about it with my wife. Don’t get me wrong, she is no multi-culti queen, but visions of KKK sheets started dancing in her head–the ones the propagandists had pounded into her for her entire life. She panicked, she was embarrassed when I’d say un-PC things in public, she worried that I’d lose my job or get arrested, etc. Of course it all came to a head. Basically I told her to shut the fuck up, that I’d do whatever the hell I wanted with it and that if she didn’t like it she could go find another six figure security blanket. She decided not to leave and now we don’t talk about it at all. It’s just compartmentalized over there somewhere. Something we leave alone. Am I calling her a whore in all this? No, she has pulled her weight over the years in many ways and is a great mother. Overall, I respect the Hell out of her. Am I saying we don’t get along? No, we generally do-we just stick to our areas of common interest and away from the political. What I am getting at in a round about way is that this whole WN movement is necessarily a masculine thing and as it inevitably gets uglier and bloodier, it will become even more exclusively so. Women are built for submission, they are built to follow, they are built to depend, they are built to nurture, but they are not built to risk, lead or think philosophically. The fact that the next President of the United State is likely to be a woman speaks volumes. It says that we are now so completely feminized that the Kali Yuga is near. It is nature turned on its head. The masses of women will not stop acting like sluts and “return to the fold” as long as they are brainwashed and artificially empowered by the Kwa government, any more than most mass men will stop acting like submissive self-hating pussies they’ve been programmed to be. So why the fuck even talk about this shit, argue about it, or even give much thought to it. As awakened White men, we need to accept the hand we were dealt. We need to accept the fact that we are alone, often depressingly alone, basically on a suicide mission, and just deal with it without looking for help from a female. If you can find a woman who hasn’t spread her legs for a mud, who is reasonably intelligent and who has the maternal instinct to be a decent mother, then basta cosi and consider yourself lucky. Just don’t make the mistake of approaching her as a rational being, because she is and will forever be ruled by emotion and an inborn drive to conform. Women don’t drink hemlock and never will. There isn’t a woman who ever existed who gave two shits about an “examined life.” Why waste time looking for her. Fuck it.

    21. Summer Says:

      Gerard – Thanks for posting.

      “”Most people, regardless of sex, will never be able to break through their multi-layered brainwashing until they are materially deprived and reduced back to or nearly back to the state of nature. Until then, mass women will act like the ho-bags MTV programs them to be. For that matter, I think you could convince a good percentage of the population to do anything right down to and including eating a heaping helping pile of dog shit if they thought it was the “ultima moda.””””

      I agree. And in today’ society a lot of guys follow mtv, just like girls. Although maybe not as many. Look at how many meteros there are nowadays. In pink shirts. Who let their girlfriends/wifes dress them up this way. If I was a guy I would shove my boot up her butt.

      “””I’ve been married to one woman for a long time and we raised kids together to adulthood. All of them went on or are now going on to graduate from college, etc.””””

      Congatulations. Not many people last more than 5 years being married, let alone raise a family with both parents.

      “”On the surface, we look like the All American “poster family.” Does this mean that things are hunky dory? That I’ve found this mythical perfect help mete that the males on this thread mistakenly believe women can actually become in our dysfunctional society, or that I myself am the perfect respectful ever helpful hardworking “John Wayne” the women on this thread are so desperately seeking? No, because neither one of these exists.”””

      I agree to some extent. Most of these people do not exist. Although you can find someone sure as hell damn close enough. You can’t change people and the only ones that you can change are the pussies who have bitches for wives who treat them like total garbage and they sit back and go “ok dear you are my god.” Same goes for guys. You see those guys who beat the hell out of their wives, those women treat them like gods too. It’s dispicable.

      “””Why? To start with, I have never met a woman in my life who could (1) think in a purely logical manner without the injection of emotion,”””

      Women were not created that way and never will be. Men have to understand this. You need that other half, the emotion, from a woman in order to help survive in this world. Honestly, you do. We do think with our emotion. A lot of things we start to think are good and want to continue will stop because our emotion gets in the way. That’s the loving part of us, is it not? How could a man fall in love with a woman who is heartless, has no emotions and only wants to kill kill kill? That would be like dating a man. Don’t get me wrong, I do hate all these emotion bs us women have and sometimes I just wish I could stop thinking with my emotions but it’s not and on and off switch. You just can’t stop them. And I do not always think with my emotions. I generally think with my anger moreso than *poor this person blahblahblah.* I don’t feel sorry for people, like most women do.

      “””(2) truly gave a rat’s ass about much of anything beyond the front door of her own house,”””

      I do, to an extent, care what is going on beyond my door. But my family comes first. I care more about if my daughter is healthy and if my fiancee is happy than I do about what jew is ass raping the white men today. I said in one of my earlier posts you need to care and take care of your family first before going on these rampages to save the white man. You can’t go to war against the enemy and expect your family to be happy while you aren’t there to take care of them. I don’t think men get that. I think men tend to think along the lines of “Well if I can change what is going on today my family will be happy.” Well yea, sure they will be. But it won’t happen before your dead and in the meantime your wife will hate you for not being around and your son will probably be gay. Does that make any sense?

      “””(3) was capable of withstanding societal pressure and thinking independently. Sure, there are woman like Summer who see the broad outlines of the problem, but they do not realize the full import of its resolution; namely that their public voice will be muted when and if things are ever “set right.””””

      I have never fallen into any social ‘norm.’ EVER. Not throughtout my high school years nor my college years. Never dressed the part or thought the part. I was such a loner, it’s dispicable. (Although I didn’t and I still don’t mind being one.) I do know a woman’s public voice will only be laughed at and mocked. I don’t think women should have public voices. That should only be a guy thing. But that isn’t to say women are not smart and do not think along the same lines as men. They can discuss whatever with their husbands but do not put a microphone in front of her or she will be trying to save the seaweed in the ocean rather than her own family.

      “” After all that, I made a big fucking mistake and started talking about it with my wife. Don’t get me wrong, she is no multi-culti queen, but visions of KKK sheets started dancing in her head–the ones the propagandists had pounded into her for her entire life. She panicked, she was embarrassed when I’d say un-PC things in public, she worried that I’d lose my job or get arrested, etc.”””

      My fiancee and I discuss this stuff all the time. I couldn’t talk about it everyday all day, I would go insane. But we do have several discussions about niggers, jews, whites, whatever throughout the day. I wouldn’t be embarassed if he said un-pc things in public. Hell I have done that. One time during college a group of girls were talking to me and telling me how the teacher in their class was racist (Teacher was a nig) and how she kept going on and on about everything being the white mans fault, even said jews were white. At that point I said jews are not white, and the mouths of all the girls dropped and there must have been 5 minutes of silence while I smiled and then they all walked away (the girls were white btw). Don’t know if they were jews or not, don’t give a damn either. I have called a nig a nigger when they flirt with me. I’m not perfect. Loosing your job to start throwing tantrums about white power this and that is kind of ridiculous. Not the loosing your job aspect but to lower yourself at a work place to proclaim white power kind of is. You have to show some level of manners at a workplace. You wouldn’t go to a restaurant and eat a plate of spaghetti with your fingers, now would you? Yes you have an opinion, and if someone asked you a question you have the right to be honest, so long as you went about it in a gentlemanly way. Not in a way some skinhead with tats everywhere and completely drunk would go about it. (Don’t know exactly what your wife is thinking if she thought you would go around saying nig this kike this or not.)

      “”What I am getting at in a round about way is that this whole WN movement is necessarily a masculine thing and as it inevitably gets uglier and bloodier, it will become even more exclusively so.””

      I hope so. But I don’t think women should be excluded when wanting to join the movement. There are lots of things women can do to help. They can’t rule it, obviously and they have no right to have debates in public but again you sometimes do need that ‘loving, sensitive, whatever’ woman to help you along. To help you choose what is right and wrong for your child. Do you not? (SO long as she thinks the same way you do. I mean nigs are bag, jews a bad, mtv is bad, don’t save africa save whites, blahblah) I said this before men in this movement should accept and welcome women coming into it, and not drive them away or you will never save white women. I can tell you that right now. The pure hatred I have read on some of these forums for white women has made me want to say fuck you all, but they will not change how I think, it would just change the part in my head that thinks white nationalists are better than the rest of the world. So at that point I would just resort to hating everyone all over again except for my family. But I would still hold on to my values, morals and manners as a white woman. Do you get that? Just because women aren’t fighters (We will fight for our family. Those of us with our heads on straight.) nor are we politicians nor do we think logically all the time, but we are white and we do share how you guys think and I don’t think we should be critisized for thinking or ‘feeling’ the way we do just because we can’t turn the ’emotional’ switch off just like how you guys can’t turn the ‘fighter’ switch off. And I wouldn’t want you too. And if you wanted to turn our switch off all women would act like dykes and be men. I would hate that personally. Women (white with a good pair of shoulders) make the world beautiful, men clean up the gutter when idiots come along (Protect and provide). Women can make posters for rallies! Haha. :x I’m terrible.

      “”Women are built for submission, they are built to follow, they are built to depend, they are built to nurture, but they are not built to risk, lead or think philosophically.”””

      I agree, I have stated that.

      “”Just don’t make the mistake of approaching her as a rational being, because she is and will forever be ruled by emotion and an inborn drive to conform. Women don’t drink hemlock and never will. There isn’t a woman who ever existed who gave two shits about an “examined life.” Why waste time looking for her. Fuck it.””

      I don’t know about that. My fiancee has helped to waken me up a bit further than I was before and I thank him for that. But again I guess you just have to find that woman who thinks along the same lines as you.

      Anyways point being, if you want your wife to think like you you just can’t throw it in her face all at once but slowly do it. My fiancee told me that once. In order to change someone, you go about it slowly with a little evidence here and there, let it sink into their mind. If they are interested they will return for more, if not, you’re at a lost cause. This goes for both men and women.

      Just don’t exclude us because we have feelings. Who would care for your children if we didn’t? If you kid was crying and we acted and were like men, all children would be locked up in a sound proof room, not being held or anything. =) I love being a mommy.

    22. gw Says:

      lawrence dennis Says: If anyone is still reading comments way down here at the bottom of the page, you may find this interesting:

      Yes, I am still reading. And yes, I did find those comments to be extremely interesting. Thank you!

    23. hepkat Says:

      Matthias Matussek on the woman problem:
      http://www.pappa.com/emanzi/mm_fault.htm

      Ultimately, all (white) females the male encounters today exhibit to some extent the character outlined in the article. There is no escaping it — not even, as we see from this thread, among females on the right. There is no solution to this problem; at most, the white male, if he is not tool enough to be “happy” with the type represented by “Summer” (more like Winter, no?), may completely withdraw from the arena where these post-females roam about, lashing whatever men happen to be around with their tongues. They will berate you for being male and not serving them for as long as you put up with it. The Jew initiated the sex war with woman as pawn, and they have won it. This ideological war, the motives and mechanics of which are mysterious to all but to the Jewish female academics who were its front-line commandos, cannot help infecting all classes and kinds of female because its premise is, as it admits, “empowerment” — that is: giving women power over men. Not only political, but social (for example in altruistic punishment of males who dissent, by males who from satiety are against criticism of females) and narcissistic (“self-empowerment”, crudeness, “sass”, etc.) Given that the female is a shallow being, she cannot help being tempted and influenced by an ideological war which, while not conceived for her benefit as a demographic, has resulted in this, at least in an infantile, vulgar aspect. In short: the congenitally weak are equipped neither to understand nor refrain from the Jewish tactic of “enfranchisement”, i.e. giving inefficient demographics power of the sustaining one (white males).

      What needs highlighting is that the White Nationalist female is deeply entrenched on the opposing, “Jewish” side of this war. WN as a quasi-ideology does not confer on the adherent any especial rationality or objectivity, least of all to females. Thus the female comes to WN with all her “baggage”, and swings it around like a dick to bludgeon males should they dare to criticize “woman” for any reason. Literally nothing is good enough for the white female at this point in our history — we have most definitely lost them and should not add insult to (our) injury by wasting time with them, especially with the absurd specter of the “right girl” which haunts so many lonely and deprived imaginations: much like that other grand fantasy, God, the right girl does not exist, and most males involved in WN will indeed “die alone”, as females are now fond of commanding.

      Basically, if you want a picture of the future, have a look at Courbet’s L’origine du monde — that is what awaits white males who are not able to shake off the need for the spoiled sex: a lifetime of having smelly, hairy crotch held up to you as the only ideal worth living for.

    24. Summer Says:

      Hepkat – I do not understand why you sit there and say women are so horrible yet men are completely perfect. That baffles me. You can not sit back and take a look at almost any ‘man’ under the age of 30 and go “wow he’s a real man.” All you need to do is open your eyes to see this. Just like how most women are not real women nowadays.

      And exactly what is my type? I came onto this thread to basically try to help people wake up to the fact that neither sexes are good anymore and that we should work on saving both sexes. Women aren’t women, men aren’t men, blahblah. I never said ALL women and ALL men are not good people but the vast majority are.

      And since you say men have to settle for the typical women, shall I go into settling for the typical man? Well let us see. A woman nowadays can pretty much only find *jobless, druggy, alcoholic, abussive, tv watching, video game playing, don’t care about anything, lack of education dipshit.” That pretty much sums up your typical guy nowadays. You know, one who won’t support his family. One who won’t go to the hospital to see his kid. One who won’t work, etc etc.

      I know I have flaws, but you can’t classify me as a typical woman. Because I’m not. Yeah, and I’m not a man either, nor want to be one. Most guys on here seem to have given up hope on finding a good female. There are good females still out there. Just get your head out of bars and clubs and churches and you’ll find one.

      “Given that the female is a shallow being”

      That is a load of bs. If a woman is extremely nurturing she can not be shallow. If a woman is shallow she can not be nurturing. There is one or the either. They can not be both. Shallow women are women who pop out a kid and go back to work within 2 weeks of labour. Nurturing women is a woman who vows not to work (except if the child is in school and only if she needs to help out with money) and to stay home taking care of the children. Yeah that has died out a lot, but there are quite a few handfuls of us left. Believe it or not.

      And since you said ‘Given that the female is a shallow being’ I will state this: Given that the male is an unprotective and unprovided being.

    25. hepkat Says:

      “And exactly what is my type?”

      The usual — contentious, boring, cocksure, with nothing substantive to say but an arsenal of petty rhetorical devices to twist what others do and to guard your own selfish position: like all women these days. You don’t simply have “flaws”: you are a flaw. I don’t know how many men it would take to convince you of that, and I’m sure they’d all be “jews”, anyway, so there’s no reason to even say it. Basically, you’re a frightening caricature mix of doggerel feminist and WN — I’m sure your hubby is a tool if he finds pleasure in your company. Outside of one or two other tools here, the rest of us, as you have seen, do not. It would be best if you went somewhere to ply your clichés. You are not wanted or needed.

    26. hepkat Says:

      As awakened White men, we need to accept the hand we were dealt. We need to accept the fact that we are alone, often depressingly alone, basically on a suicide mission, and just deal with it without looking for help from a female. If you can find a woman who hasn’t spread her legs for a mud, who is reasonably intelligent and who has the maternal instinct to be a decent mother, then basta cosi and consider yourself lucky. Just don’t make the mistake of approaching her as a rational being, because she is and will forever be ruled by emotion and an inborn drive to conform. Women don’t drink hemlock and never will. There isn’t a woman who ever existed who gave two shits about an “examined life.” Why waste time looking for her. Fuck it.

      Gerard, that was beautiful.

    27. Summer Says:

      “””The usual — contentious, boring, cocksure, with nothing substantive to say but an arsenal of petty rhetorical devices to twist what others do and to guard your own selfish position: like all women these days. You don’t simply have “flaws”: you are a flaw. I don’t know how many men it would take to convince you of that, and I’m sure they’d all be “jews”, anyway, so there’s no reason to even say it. Basically, you’re a frightening caricature mix of doggerel feminist and WN — I’m sure your hubby is a tool if he finds pleasure in your company. Outside of one or two other tools here, the rest of us, as you have seen, do not. It would be best if you went somewhere to ply your clichés. You are not wanted or needed”””

      So basically no women are wanted or needed in this movement. That is what you are basically stating. So who will save the white race? All you men are going to become gay? I don’t get why you and people like you are so anti-women. Men have as many flaws than women do. And if I am correct, I have stated that men and women are both bad people. Neither are how they use to be. And I do not and have not stated all men and all women are bad. I said the vast majority. And if you think white men are so damn perfect you need to open your eyes to reality little boy, because they’re not. Even real men nowadays will agree with that.

      I would appreciate not being placed in the ‘usual typical female’ catorgory as you have placed me in. Stating that I am would mean that I have said *I wanted to fuck a black man or that spic is sexy.* And in both cases I have not. Nor have I stated that I want some rich pimp to buy me new cars and a castle full of mini skirts, fur coats and high heels that I couldn’t even balance in. Nor am I one to go shopping with the ‘girls.’ Nor do I take good men for granted. Nor would I place a job before my daughter or fiancee.

      I have yet to state anything on this message board that is so ‘typical’ other than stating how guys act nowadays. I have gone on and on about how horrible women are too, so I do not get why you are so against me, other than the fact I don’t have a penis between my legs. I understand when women talk men don’t listen and generally consider it all rubbish, yet I made some good points and have gotten several men to agree with me. I am not here to get praised and crap, I can care less about all that. But I don’t think my opinions should be excluded just because you think men are so flipping great. They aren’t. And neither are women. And I have yet to state anything remotely ‘feminist.’ To say men nowadays are lazy, that isn’t being a feminist that is merely stating the truth. I’m sure you’re over 50 years old, so you do not hang out with the age groups I hang out with. But I know for a fact AT LEAST 70% of my guy friends do not have jobs… but hey what do I know I’m a woman and men are not lazy! *rolls eyes* Get off this men are perfect, women are scum bs. You’ll only drive the two sexes apart. Unless that is what you are getting at. Another jew?

      But if you wish to perserve your race you need to stop treating women like crap, because we’re the ones that birth your children.

    28. Anoy Says:

      Yes, you cunts like saying things like that. No backbone. Coward. Lazy. You’ll die alone. You’re gay. Grow up. Grow some balls. Etc. You think this is profound, hurtful stuff; all you’re doing is putting your own vulgarity on display. Men – who aren’t whipped – look at my words and feel strengthened; they look at yours, and despair.

      You can say that again brother. Great posts.

    29. anthony Says:

      You’re absolutely correct on that topic.

      There should be as few women as possible working outside the home. This is in stark contrast to the society of today, where we have women, especially those of childbearing age, taking up men’s roles where they should have themselves a loving hubby and popping out a large family of six to ten kids.

      You certainly want a married woman to be at home and taking care of it, along with the kids instead of spending 40 hours a week at an office or factory or even inside the cockpit of a jet fighter. The home. Nowhere else. Period.

      Not only that, you have young women dressing immodestly, arousing lasciviousness within men! No husband would want his wife to dress like that! At least 50 years ago, you had wives wearing modest attire such as long-sleeved blouses and skirts stretching below the knee, supplemented with headscarves, not too dissimilar to that worn by Muslim women. Nowadays, you have them wearing dresses with spaghetti string straps and other lewd-looking apparel.

      It all causes white men to have their minds polluted by all this mess.

      Screw you, jew, screw you big time for all this muddle!

      About big families and women’s roles, refer to these Bible verses:

      Psalm 127:3-5
      Genesis 3:16
      1st Timothy 5:14