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Well, well, well.
I thought sure it was Fall with an early Winter coming but now it looks like Indian Summer.
Yeah, you beat him Summer. Give a dummy enough rope and watch him hang himself.
Draw him out, get him talking, and he will convict himself out of his own mouth.
The police use that method all the time. Interesting to see it happen here. Next time warn him that everything he says will be taken down and used against him.
Take a break, needs a break.

Criticizing women doesn’t make one a jew, summer. As a display of your hypocrisy and arrogance you resort to name calling and personal insults if some of us don’t agree with your characterizations of men. You calling me bitter is like the pot calling the kettle black based on your posts. Don’t blame me for your poor choices of men in the past and for you to think that all of us men are just xbox playing and lazy pinheads shows your lack of worldliness. Some women aren’t happy unless their riding that emotional rollercoaster 24/7 and unstable, sociopathic and abusive men often give you what your looking for. Decent, honest, hardworking men are just boring to today’s spoiled women. Women cheat just as much as men do especially if the man isn’t meeting their long list of ever changing “needs”.

I see non-white women lending their moral support to organizations that advance their racial interests and rallying around their men. Sadly, most white women rally around nothing except someone who can shower them with money. I would go into cardiac arrest if I ever heard a white women say she wanted a white man of good character. May our race and this country would be in better shape if white women did a better job of choosing their mates.

“””women aren’t happy unless their riding that emotional rollercoaster 24/7 and unstable, sociopathic and abusive men often give you what your looking for.”””

I believe women go for guys like that because to them it is exciting or maybe they think oh he will beat anyone up for me but the thing women don’t get is that the guys who act like their big and tough are generally pussies.

This goes two ways. Women go for the bad ass, motorcycle assholes and men go for the blonde bimbo fake boobs pamela anderson whore types. So… They are both faulty.

The women who go for those badass types take those mans faults and assume all men are like that whereas the men who go for whores think all women are bleached fake tit bimbo whores who are using everyone for money.

Neither is true…

Men just want a woman who is attractive and someone they can get along with. Women aren’t so simple in their criteria for choosing men. Men, generally, aren’t looking for Pam Anderson types, but most of us do want someone who tries to keep up their physical appearance and acts feminine.

I agree that women confuse an abusive man’s habits as manliness and confidence. The smarter ones see through the act quick, but many women can’t or won’t and feel it’s their mission to change this type of man. They like the challenge and challenge is exciting. Then again for some it’s the emotional roller coaster ride that provides the fix like an illicit drug.

To me that’s a very primitive mentality by the female since she will attract the worst sort of man. When she tires of the game she’s used up and cynical. Read Angela Fiori as she captures the hubris, misandry and haughtiness of today’s perfect little princesses and really nails fellow women to the wall.

Keep in mind that men in the age range you mentioned are products of divorced, single parent homes typically headed by a domineering mother. They never had fathers or father figures to help raise them become good men. Not that some men aren’t dead beats anyway, but women can be very vindictive in a break up and prevent the fathers from seeing their kids.

Anyway, since male bashing has become a favorite American pastime it’s only fair that women be forced to look in the mirror and have their egos deflated.

“””This thread has devolved to crap. wow”””

That’s what happens when jews attend this msg board. And no don’t say women, some of us actually have decent and intelligent things to say.

“””The problems of our society today have stemmed from the influence of women and their way of thought on the public sphere.”””

At this point white men should have raised and put a stop to it. Like I said in an above thread, women are follows they will always follow the herd, bad herds or good ones. Government should have never asked an opinion of a woman. When they did the jew grabbed ahold of it and twisted it, so that they destroyed us, into what has now become a crappy society.

“””This has only been possible because men thought it would be harmless and fair to allow women their say. Obviously, they were wrong.”””

Yes they were wrong. But again how can you blame women for doing something that is only their nature? That would be like women blaming men for protecting them. It’s a mans nature to protect one’s own. Does that make sense? Can’t blame what a person can’t change. We can’t become men, we can’t have the same “grr I’m a fighter and a leader” like men. Who would follow the men if we were like that? It seems like men don’t follow men anymore either, rather they fight against each other for power.

“””Allow women freedom to choose, and you end up with too few children”””

This I seriously do not understand. I do not get why women do not want kids. (Other than the obvious reasons they want to have fun their whole lives.) But back then I do not understand why. The bondage of mother and child is so, wow, no words for it. It’s undescribable. Men, I do not think understand, maybe because we carried them inside us for 9 months I don’t know, but I have never felt this way about anything. And the lack of sleep and irratation of the crying and not having any ‘me’ time doesn’t make a damn difference when I look at her and see her smile and make her “coo coo” noises. I don’t know, it’s just… awesome. =)

But I have heard just as many men as women (if not more) say they don’t want kids. Both are idiots. They just want to party all their lives and bang as many people as they can. Whatever, screw them. Let them get aids and die. They wouldn’t be good parents anyways.

I wonder how Summer got all the time to sit here at the computer, callng up VNN, reading, responding and writing awfully long arguments galore- more than anybody else- is there no housework or gardening to be done, or, for that matter, no man to love?

I sure hope she doesn’t live in Israel.

Why are there jews in Ireland?

“I hug and kiss him several times a day but I don’t smother him either. Men don’t like that all day long. Whenever I go downstairs I ask him if he would like anything, tea, food, whatever.”

They don’t? I, on the other hand, like being smothered and like to do some smothering of my own ;)

Gerard – Thanks for posting.

“”Most people, regardless of sex, will never be able to break through their multi-layered brainwashing until they are materially deprived and reduced back to or nearly back to the state of nature. Until then, mass women will act like the ho-bags MTV programs them to be. For that matter, I think you could convince a good percentage of the population to do anything right down to and including eating a heaping helping pile of dog shit if they thought it was the “ultima moda.””””

I agree. And in today’ society a lot of guys follow mtv, just like girls. Although maybe not as many. Look at how many meteros there are nowadays. In pink shirts. Who let their girlfriends/wifes dress them up this way. If I was a guy I would shove my boot up her butt.

“””I’ve been married to one woman for a long time and we raised kids together to adulthood. All of them went on or are now going on to graduate from college, etc.””””

Congatulations. Not many people last more than 5 years being married, let alone raise a family with both parents.

“”On the surface, we look like the All American “poster family.” Does this mean that things are hunky dory? That I’ve found this mythical perfect help mete that the males on this thread mistakenly believe women can actually become in our dysfunctional society, or that I myself am the perfect respectful ever helpful hardworking “John Wayne” the women on this thread are so desperately seeking? No, because neither one of these exists.”””

I agree to some extent. Most of these people do not exist. Although you can find someone sure as hell damn close enough. You can’t change people and the only ones that you can change are the pussies who have bitches for wives who treat them like total garbage and they sit back and go “ok dear you are my god.” Same goes for guys. You see those guys who beat the hell out of their wives, those women treat them like gods too. It’s dispicable.

“””Why? To start with, I have never met a woman in my life who could (1) think in a purely logical manner without the injection of emotion,”””

Women were not created that way and never will be. Men have to understand this. You need that other half, the emotion, from a woman in order to help survive in this world. Honestly, you do. We do think with our emotion. A lot of things we start to think are good and want to continue will stop because our emotion gets in the way. That’s the loving part of us, is it not? How could a man fall in love with a woman who is heartless, has no emotions and only wants to kill kill kill? That would be like dating a man. Don’t get me wrong, I do hate all these emotion bs us women have and sometimes I just wish I could stop thinking with my emotions but it’s not and on and off switch. You just can’t stop them. And I do not always think with my emotions. I generally think with my anger moreso than *poor this person blahblahblah.* I don’t feel sorry for people, like most women do.

“””(2) truly gave a rat’s ass about much of anything beyond the front door of her own house,”””

I do, to an extent, care what is going on beyond my door. But my family comes first. I care more about if my daughter is healthy and if my fiancee is happy than I do about what jew is ass raping the white men today. I said in one of my earlier posts you need to care and take care of your family first before going on these rampages to save the white man. You can’t go to war against the enemy and expect your family to be happy while you aren’t there to take care of them. I don’t think men get that. I think men tend to think along the lines of “Well if I can change what is going on today my family will be happy.” Well yea, sure they will be. But it won’t happen before your dead and in the meantime your wife will hate you for not being around and your son will probably be gay. Does that make any sense?

“””(3) was capable of withstanding societal pressure and thinking independently. Sure, there are woman like Summer who see the broad outlines of the problem, but they do not realize the full import of its resolution; namely that their public voice will be muted when and if things are ever “set right.””””

I have never fallen into any social ‘norm.’ EVER. Not throughtout my high school years nor my college years. Never dressed the part or thought the part. I was such a loner, it’s dispicable. (Although I didn’t and I still don’t mind being one.) I do know a woman’s public voice will only be laughed at and mocked. I don’t think women should have public voices. That should only be a guy thing. But that isn’t to say women are not smart and do not think along the same lines as men. They can discuss whatever with their husbands but do not put a microphone in front of her or she will be trying to save the seaweed in the ocean rather than her own family.

“” After all that, I made a big fucking mistake and started talking about it with my wife. Don’t get me wrong, she is no multi-culti queen, but visions of KKK sheets started dancing in her head–the ones the propagandists had pounded into her for her entire life. She panicked, she was embarrassed when I’d say un-PC things in public, she worried that I’d lose my job or get arrested, etc.”””

My fiancee and I discuss this stuff all the time. I couldn’t talk about it everyday all day, I would go insane. But we do have several discussions about niggers, jews, whites, whatever throughout the day. I wouldn’t be embarassed if he said un-pc things in public. Hell I have done that. One time during college a group of girls were talking to me and telling me how the teacher in their class was racist (Teacher was a nig) and how she kept going on and on about everything being the white mans fault, even said jews were white. At that point I said jews are not white, and the mouths of all the girls dropped and there must have been 5 minutes of silence while I smiled and then they all walked away (the girls were white btw). Don’t know if they were jews or not, don’t give a damn either. I have called a nig a nigger when they flirt with me. I’m not perfect. Loosing your job to start throwing tantrums about white power this and that is kind of ridiculous. Not the loosing your job aspect but to lower yourself at a work place to proclaim white power kind of is. You have to show some level of manners at a workplace. You wouldn’t go to a restaurant and eat a plate of spaghetti with your fingers, now would you? Yes you have an opinion, and if someone asked you a question you have the right to be honest, so long as you went about it in a gentlemanly way. Not in a way some skinhead with tats everywhere and completely drunk would go about it. (Don’t know exactly what your wife is thinking if she thought you would go around saying nig this kike this or not.)

“”What I am getting at in a round about way is that this whole WN movement is necessarily a masculine thing and as it inevitably gets uglier and bloodier, it will become even more exclusively so.””

I hope so. But I don’t think women should be excluded when wanting to join the movement. There are lots of things women can do to help. They can’t rule it, obviously and they have no right to have debates in public but again you sometimes do need that ‘loving, sensitive, whatever’ woman to help you along. To help you choose what is right and wrong for your child. Do you not? (SO long as she thinks the same way you do. I mean nigs are bag, jews a bad, mtv is bad, don’t save africa save whites, blahblah) I said this before men in this movement should accept and welcome women coming into it, and not drive them away or you will never save white women. I can tell you that right now. The pure hatred I have read on some of these forums for white women has made me want to say fuck you all, but they will not change how I think, it would just change the part in my head that thinks white nationalists are better than the rest of the world. So at that point I would just resort to hating everyone all over again except for my family. But I would still hold on to my values, morals and manners as a white woman. Do you get that? Just because women aren’t fighters (We will fight for our family. Those of us with our heads on straight.) nor are we politicians nor do we think logically all the time, but we are white and we do share how you guys think and I don’t think we should be critisized for thinking or ‘feeling’ the way we do just because we can’t turn the ’emotional’ switch off just like how you guys can’t turn the ‘fighter’ switch off. And I wouldn’t want you too. And if you wanted to turn our switch off all women would act like dykes and be men. I would hate that personally. Women (white with a good pair of shoulders) make the world beautiful, men clean up the gutter when idiots come along (Protect and provide). Women can make posters for rallies! Haha. :x I’m terrible.

“”Women are built for submission, they are built to follow, they are built to depend, they are built to nurture, but they are not built to risk, lead or think philosophically.”””

I agree, I have stated that.

“”Just don’t make the mistake of approaching her as a rational being, because she is and will forever be ruled by emotion and an inborn drive to conform. Women don’t drink hemlock and never will. There isn’t a woman who ever existed who gave two shits about an “examined life.” Why waste time looking for her. Fuck it.””

I don’t know about that. My fiancee has helped to waken me up a bit further than I was before and I thank him for that. But again I guess you just have to find that woman who thinks along the same lines as you.

Anyways point being, if you want your wife to think like you you just can’t throw it in her face all at once but slowly do it. My fiancee told me that once. In order to change someone, you go about it slowly with a little evidence here and there, let it sink into their mind. If they are interested they will return for more, if not, you’re at a lost cause. This goes for both men and women.

Just don’t exclude us because we have feelings. Who would care for your children if we didn’t? If you kid was crying and we acted and were like men, all children would be locked up in a sound proof room, not being held or anything. =) I love being a mommy.

Matthias Matussek on the woman problem:
http://www.pappa.com/emanzi/mm_fault.htm

Ultimately, all (white) females the male encounters today exhibit to some extent the character outlined in the article. There is no escaping it — not even, as we see from this thread, among females on the right. There is no solution to this problem; at most, the white male, if he is not tool enough to be “happy” with the type represented by “Summer” (more like Winter, no?), may completely withdraw from the arena where these post-females roam about, lashing whatever men happen to be around with their tongues. They will berate you for being male and not serving them for as long as you put up with it. The Jew initiated the sex war with woman as pawn, and they have won it. This ideological war, the motives and mechanics of which are mysterious to all but to the Jewish female academics who were its front-line commandos, cannot help infecting all classes and kinds of female because its premise is, as it admits, “empowerment” — that is: giving women power over men. Not only political, but social (for example in altruistic punishment of males who dissent, by males who from satiety are against criticism of females) and narcissistic (“self-empowerment”, crudeness, “sass”, etc.) Given that the female is a shallow being, she cannot help being tempted and influenced by an ideological war which, while not conceived for her benefit as a demographic, has resulted in this, at least in an infantile, vulgar aspect. In short: the congenitally weak are equipped neither to understand nor refrain from the Jewish tactic of “enfranchisement”, i.e. giving inefficient demographics power of the sustaining one (white males).

What needs highlighting is that the White Nationalist female is deeply entrenched on the opposing, “Jewish” side of this war. WN as a quasi-ideology does not confer on the adherent any especial rationality or objectivity, least of all to females. Thus the female comes to WN with all her “baggage”, and swings it around like a dick to bludgeon males should they dare to criticize “woman” for any reason. Literally nothing is good enough for the white female at this point in our history — we have most definitely lost them and should not add insult to (our) injury by wasting time with them, especially with the absurd specter of the “right girl” which haunts so many lonely and deprived imaginations: much like that other grand fantasy, God, the right girl does not exist, and most males involved in WN will indeed “die alone”, as females are now fond of commanding.

Basically, if you want a picture of the future, have a look at Courbet’s L’origine du monde — that is what awaits white males who are not able to shake off the need for the spoiled sex: a lifetime of having smelly, hairy crotch held up to you as the only ideal worth living for.

“And exactly what is my type?”

The usual — contentious, boring, cocksure, with nothing substantive to say but an arsenal of petty rhetorical devices to twist what others do and to guard your own selfish position: like all women these days. You don’t simply have “flaws”: you are a flaw. I don’t know how many men it would take to convince you of that, and I’m sure they’d all be “jews”, anyway, so there’s no reason to even say it. Basically, you’re a frightening caricature mix of doggerel feminist and WN — I’m sure your hubby is a tool if he finds pleasure in your company. Outside of one or two other tools here, the rest of us, as you have seen, do not. It would be best if you went somewhere to ply your clichés. You are not wanted or needed.

“””The usual — contentious, boring, cocksure, with nothing substantive to say but an arsenal of petty rhetorical devices to twist what others do and to guard your own selfish position: like all women these days. You don’t simply have “flaws”: you are a flaw. I don’t know how many men it would take to convince you of that, and I’m sure they’d all be “jews”, anyway, so there’s no reason to even say it. Basically, you’re a frightening caricature mix of doggerel feminist and WN — I’m sure your hubby is a tool if he finds pleasure in your company. Outside of one or two other tools here, the rest of us, as you have seen, do not. It would be best if you went somewhere to ply your clichés. You are not wanted or needed”””

So basically no women are wanted or needed in this movement. That is what you are basically stating. So who will save the white race? All you men are going to become gay? I don’t get why you and people like you are so anti-women. Men have as many flaws than women do. And if I am correct, I have stated that men and women are both bad people. Neither are how they use to be. And I do not and have not stated all men and all women are bad. I said the vast majority. And if you think white men are so damn perfect you need to open your eyes to reality little boy, because they’re not. Even real men nowadays will agree with that.

I would appreciate not being placed in the ‘usual typical female’ catorgory as you have placed me in. Stating that I am would mean that I have said *I wanted to fuck a black man or that spic is sexy.* And in both cases I have not. Nor have I stated that I want some rich pimp to buy me new cars and a castle full of mini skirts, fur coats and high heels that I couldn’t even balance in. Nor am I one to go shopping with the ‘girls.’ Nor do I take good men for granted. Nor would I place a job before my daughter or fiancee.

I have yet to state anything on this message board that is so ‘typical’ other than stating how guys act nowadays. I have gone on and on about how horrible women are too, so I do not get why you are so against me, other than the fact I don’t have a penis between my legs. I understand when women talk men don’t listen and generally consider it all rubbish, yet I made some good points and have gotten several men to agree with me. I am not here to get praised and crap, I can care less about all that. But I don’t think my opinions should be excluded just because you think men are so flipping great. They aren’t. And neither are women. And I have yet to state anything remotely ‘feminist.’ To say men nowadays are lazy, that isn’t being a feminist that is merely stating the truth. I’m sure you’re over 50 years old, so you do not hang out with the age groups I hang out with. But I know for a fact AT LEAST 70% of my guy friends do not have jobs… but hey what do I know I’m a woman and men are not lazy! *rolls eyes* Get off this men are perfect, women are scum bs. You’ll only drive the two sexes apart. Unless that is what you are getting at. Another jew?

But if you wish to perserve your race you need to stop treating women like crap, because we’re the ones that birth your children.

You’re absolutely correct on that topic.

There should be as few women as possible working outside the home. This is in stark contrast to the society of today, where we have women, especially those of childbearing age, taking up men’s roles where they should have themselves a loving hubby and popping out a large family of six to ten kids.

You certainly want a married woman to be at home and taking care of it, along with the kids instead of spending 40 hours a week at an office or factory or even inside the cockpit of a jet fighter. The home. Nowhere else. Period.

Not only that, you have young women dressing immodestly, arousing lasciviousness within men! No husband would want his wife to dress like that! At least 50 years ago, you had wives wearing modest attire such as long-sleeved blouses and skirts stretching below the knee, supplemented with headscarves, not too dissimilar to that worn by Muslim women. Nowadays, you have them wearing dresses with spaghetti string straps and other lewd-looking apparel.

It all causes white men to have their minds polluted by all this mess.

Screw you, jew, screw you big time for all this muddle!

About big families and women’s roles, refer to these Bible verses:

Psalm 127:3-5
Genesis 3:16
1st Timothy 5:14