19 March, 2008

Arguments Begin in Landmark Gun Case

Posted by Socrates in guns & goy controllers, Socrates at 12:49 am | Permanent Link

It seems that pro-gun citizens are looking at the District of Columbia v. Heller case in two different ways. Some are glad that a politically right-leaning court is hearing the case rather than a left-leaning one. But others are asking why the court needs to consider an issue – private gun ownership – that is already settled by the Bill of Rights [1] and the words of America’s founders:


[1] the 2nd Amendment no doubt gives rights to “the individual citizens” and not just to “members of government-sponsored militias.” There would be no need for an amendment that grants firearms rights to armies under governmental control

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  7. 12 Responses to “Arguments Begin in Landmark Gun Case”

    1. Rex Reed Says:

      I see they won’t have a ruling until June. A lot can happen in a few months and I would not be surprised if the ruling was not in favor of gun owners. Only time will tell what these swindlers will do for their tribe.

    2. Septell Says:

      According to George Gordon, the common-law teacher, the second Amendment is in full force and effect. He says that the reason folks are having a problem, is that their guns are corporate-made. This, he maintains, allows them to be regulated under the Constiturion’s commerce clause.

      He says the Constitution protects guns that are PRIVATE PROPERTY, and cites cases where the individual has manufactured the gun himself, or has a gun of such age – that it falls outside the current framework.

      I’m not giving any advice to anyone here – other than to check with him – listen to his shows which are archived on the ‘net, and see for yourselves

      I believe that many of the problems that WN’s face – are dealt with in his programs. He shows how to force the government to back down in a multitude of cases – by standing ones ground – legally. There is also the possibility of a big cash payout from the government if they tread on your rights.

      I don’t know how Alex’s arrest at the rally would have turned out, had he knwn this stuff, but he might have leen compensated, rather than fined, if he knew how to go “pro se”.

      Gordon has a philosophy on mainy aspects of life – hard metal over paper currency, for instance. With the dollar in freefall, he’s looking good on that.

      I don’t want to come over as just a GG fan – because my views are much more complex. Just take a look at this stuff – eh?

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    4. Rick Says:

      The 2nd amendment gives nothing, confers nothing, offers nothing to the people of America other than the sacred promise that the Federal Government will forever be banned from enacting gun controls and thereby destroying our natural right to defend ourselves and our country from enemies without and within. Read it… “THE” Right of the people; This implies that this right is already in existence. The enemies controlling this government are well aware of these facts but are also aware that the average Joe Sixpack is only thinking about the outcome of his next erection.

    5. au natural Says:

      Until the US is out of the UN, all the hype about anything related to the bill of rights or constitution is MOOT….. The UN has authority over all city states per the Agreements ratified and signed by the world STATES’ representatives….. In short, these agreements are forced ELITE LAWS without citizen input….

    6. White patriot Says:

      Joe Lieberman and John McCain… a match made in Jew Heaven.

    7. lawrence dennis Says:

      Would somebody please filter out these endless off-topic posts by ANDREI YUSTSCHINSKY (whoever that is)?


    8. Socrates Says:

      Good point, L.D.

      ANDREI YUSTSCHINSKY, please make sure that your comments are on-topic. And by the way, please don’t post full-length items that are copyrighted.

    9. Steve Says:

      “Do not separate text from historical background. If you do, you will have perverted and subverted the Constitution, which can only end in a distorted, bastardized form of illegitimate government.”
      -James Madison

      In his report on immigration to the First Congress, James Madison urged that America “welcome every person of good fame who really means to incorporate himself into our society, but repel all who will not be a real addition to the wealth and strength of the United States.”

      “Americans need never fear their government because of the advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation.”
      -James Madison

    10. alex Says:

      According to George Gordon, the common-law teacher, the second Amendment is in full force and effect. He says that the reason folks are having a problem, is that their guns are corporate-made. This, he maintains, allows them to be regulated under the Constiturion’s commerce clause.

      Please keep this moron stuff off VNN.

    11. Booger Says:

      Typical of the ZOG,they would like an unarmed populace to mess with.What their not saying is most of the gun violence is commited by DC yard-apes.Some relevant quotes for the patriot- Today we need a nation of Minute Men,citizens who are not only prepared to take up arms,but citizens who regard the preservation of freedom to be the basic purpose of their daily life,and who are willing to consciously work and sacrifice for that freedom-John F. Kennedy-in defense of citizens militias-1961 An unarmed man is not only defenseless-he is contemptable-Macchavelli And yet no weapons,no matter how powerful,can help the West until it overcomes its loss of WILLPOWER.In a state of psychological weakness,weapons become a burden for the capitulating side.TO DEFEND ONESELF ONE MUST BE READY TO DIE,AND THEIR IS LITTLE SUCH READINESS IN A SOCIETY RAISED IN THE CULT OF MATERIAL WELL-BEING-Alexander Solzhenitsyn If a Nation values anything more than Freedom,it will lose that freedom;and the irony of it is that if it is comfort that it values more-it will lose that too-W.Somerset Maugham When the Tyrant comes for your guns,after all,you’ll have only one more chance to use them-Vin Suprynowitz No Slave shall keep any arms whatsoever-A bill concerning slaves from the Virginia Assembly-1779 Guard with jealous attention the public liberty.Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel.Unfortunately,nothing will preserve it but DOWNRIGHT FORCE.Whenever you give up that force,you are inevitably ruined-Patrick Henry-1788 The only guns successfully confiscated will be from those owners who know in advance,that they will never resist-those who value sandwiches over freedom,temporary comfort over indelible honour.The rest of us-and i devoutly hope this includes YOU,will NOT-WILL NEVER-give up our arms.If liberty loving Americans are treated so shabbily WHEN WE HAVE GUNS-then how much MORE BRUTAL will our treatment be if we are DISARMED?IF the FEDGOONS are this bold(ALA WACO),when they can easily be shot at,imagine their savagery if we give up our guns!-Boston T. Party POWER EVOLVES FROM THE POINT OF A GUN-Chairman MAO Have a nice Armed day-fellow PATRIOTS!

    12. Ceallachain Says:

      Just goes to show how misguided Charlston Heston was. There would be very little talk of gun control, except blacks use them to defend their monkey “honor” when someone “disses” them.