10 December, 2008

Early Holocaust Tales

Posted by Socrates in Holocaust, holocaust racket, Holocaustianity, Jewish myths, Socrates at 10:47 pm | Permanent Link

The Jews have been making Holocaust claims for centuries. In fact, sometimes they repeatedly claim the same number of Jewish victims, e.g., 6 million, apparently believing that no one will notice [1]:


[1] the “6 million Jews” claim was also made in 1919: [Here]

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  7. 72 Responses to “Early Holocaust Tales”

    1. Zarathustra Says:

      I question EVERYTHING, godammit………The “official” 911 report ( a classic white-wash that blamed everyone and no one for the 911 attacks) as well as the Kon-spiracy Kooks (all of whom were apparently born with chips on their shoulders and foil hats on their heads).

      And I especially question all those internet Kon-Artists who have come out of the woodwork trying to make a fast buck off the horror of those attacks. That is something the “truthers” don’t seem to give a shit about, BTW, the fact that so many White people suffered and died on that day. It’s just a whodunnit game to them. Maybe if they lost a loved one (assuming anyone loves them at all)on that day, they would be a little less cold-blooded about what happened on 911.

      The upper part of the South Tower DID tip over as it was falling, nit-wits. That’s because it was hit diagonally in the SE corner of the building about 3/4ths of the way up. The North Tower fell straight down because it was hit dead-on, right through the center of its core structure. All the elaborate, bizarre and uneccessarily complex and conflicting conspiracy theories in the world can’t change the simple laws of physics and gravity.

      BTW, have any of the JFK assasination conspiracy theories brought us ANY CLOSER to solving that event, which took place 45 years ago? So why don’t you all focus on finishing that first. Then you can work on inventing conspiracy theories for 911.

    2. Z.O.G. Says:

      Then you can work on inventing conspiracy theories for 911.

      Why would we need to invent conspiracy theories to explain 9/11 when we have you? You’ve got the most fantastical, out of this world conspiracy theory about 9/11 that I’ve ever come across, namely that 19 Arab ragheads being commanded by a guy living a cave pulled off the biggest crime in world history. How could we possibly compete with such brilliant Hollywood Jew style story telling?

      LOL :-D

    3. Dead London Says:

      I agree – 19 ragheads commandeering some planes and pulling off the biggest crime in world history IS fantastical. But you finally have to apply Occam’s Razor. What is more fantastical? 19 Arabs with visions of paradise in their brains use the complacency of airline passengers to commandeer some planes and then use their marginal piloting skills to crash them into some of the biggest targets on Earth. One group fails to do so, and the others manage to hit their targets through extreme luck.

      Contrast that with the conspiracy theory requiring drone aircraft, explosive packed buildings, etc. How many conspirators would be necessary to pull such a feat off? 10? 100? 1000? All those people, sociopathic enough to kill thousands and be consigned to silence forever, acor else the whole conspiry unravels? Could the head conspirators _really_ trust people who would happily help with the deaths of thousands to be committed enough to remain silent forever? I mean, once you even start to think about trying to recruit people to rig a building like the WTC full of explosives, wouldn’t it finally be easier just to recruit kamikaze pilots?

      The Alex Jones conspiracy theories are Hollywood style story telling. In the real world, NO ONE CAN KEEP A SECRET. The above poster Z.O.G. should know this better than anyone – AIPAC’s influence on the US government is an OPEN SECRET. Harvard professors write books about it. Jewish influence on Hollywood is an OPEN SECRET. Everyone knows it. They do what they want, it’s blindingly obvious to anyone with a brain, and they say “So? What’re you gonna do about it, you _NAZI_?” Vast conspiracies that could unravel if one conspirator speaks out are not their style.

    4. Zarathustra Says:

      If ZOG is such an expert on the 911 attacks, then why didn’t he see them coming? And why can’t he name just 10 people who somehow managed to get literally tons of explosives past WTC/NYPD/FDNY/NY Port Authority security and place those bombs in heavily trafficed offices, bathrooms, elevators, garages……………

      But I’m sure he has an elaborate, complicated and confusing explanation for that. I guess everyone at the Port Authority, NYPD, FDNY, FBI, NSA, CIA, US Postal Service, etc. was in on this Grand Conspiracy. But if that’s the case, if so many people were in on it, then it’s not much of a conspiracy, is it? And how do all those thousands of folks manage to keep their mouths shut? Don’t any of them have a conscience about what they participated in?

      Name just 10 people who placed those magic bombs inside the WTC. Or just 5, plus 5 people inside the White House with dual US/Israeli citizenship who “masterminded” the whole damn thing. YOU CANNOT.

      One more thing……..Thousands and thousands of people were scouring the wreckage of the WTC for months after the collapse. Firemen, Police, EMTs, volunteers, military personnel, victims’ family members, construction crews, demolition crews…………….Why didn’t ANY OF THEM find any explosives in the debris, genius? OH, THAT’S RIGHT……….THEY WERE ALL PART OF THE CONSPIRACY, TOO.

      I’m still waiting for those 10 verifiable names……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….Yup, still waiting………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………..

    5. shabbos s. shabazz Says:

      Execrable claptrap.

    6. Dewi Says:

      “Ok ok… so the laws of physics were temporarily suspended for a day while jet fuel burning less than half the necessary temperature brings down three steel buildings on 9/11 all at free fall speed, and the cavemen accused have managed to avoid indictment by a grand jury for 8 years and counting.”

    7. Dewi Says:

      Oh, and some of these devout muslims were at a strip club the night before drinking and ogling strippers; and they left a copy of the Koran at the strip club. I ask you!

      They were carrying out an exercise in the event of an attack on the Twin Towers and the Pentagon; and the terrorists (patsy’s!) attacked the same buildings on the same day. I’ve got it now?!

      9/11 was a false flag operation as any one with an active brain cell on duty to could not fail to see, as it had all the hall marks (modus operandi) of all false flag operations.

      “Only the small secrets need to be protected, as the big secrets are kept secret by public incredulity”.

      Marchal Mc Luhan. Media Guru.

    8. Zarathustra Says:

      What I don’t understand is why the 911 troofers get so defensive and hostile whenever anyone questions their particular pet conspiracy theory. If the facts are on your side, then it isn’t necessary to act so hysterical. I’m learning stuff here about the WN mentality that is very discouraging.

      So, what exactly am I supposed to believe, that the Towers were destroyed by some invisible bombs hidden in the buildings themselves by persons unknown, or that there were missiles mounted on the fuselage of UAL 175, or that it was a cruise missile that hit the Pentagon and not a plane, or that Flight 93 was shot down by a fighter jet, or that Mohammed Atta is still alive and living in Cairo, or that Atta never existed at all, or that the passengers and crew on the planes were taken off the planes at the last minute, or that they were knocked out with a sleeping gas, or that the planes were remote controlled, or that the face of the devil could be seen in the smoke coming out of the south tower……………………….

      Talk about a fever swamp of conspiracy theories. What did you troofers do for fun before Sept 11, 2001?

    9. Z.O.G. Says:

      What I don’t understand is why the 911 troofers get so defensive and hostile whenever anyone questions their particular pet conspiracy theory. If the facts are on your side, then it isn’t necessary to act so hysterical.

      It seems to me that YOU are the one getting defensive and hostile whenever anyone questions your particular pet Z.O.G. fairy tale conspiracy theory about 19 Arab ragheads defeating the combined military and intelligence apparatus of the United States and pulling off the biggest, most spectacular crime in human history, all while being commanded by a guy living in cave.

      Like I said before, this is the greatest Hollywood Jew style conspiracy theory I’ve ever heard of. They should make a movie about it.

      LOL :-D

    10. Z.O.G. Says:

      They do what they want, it’s blindingly obvious to anyone with a brain, and they say “So? What’re you gonna do about it, you _NAZI_?”

      Yep, exactly. It’s all hidden in plain site. Thanks for finally agreeing with me. ;-)

      The Architecture of Terror: Mapping the Israeli Network Behind 9-11


    11. Zarathustra Says:

      Apparently, you don’t believe in the old saying, “the bigger they are, the harder they fall”?

      The mighty Persian Empire was defeated by a small number of Greeks at Thermopalae; The Vietcong defeated the US in South Vietnam; The Mujahedeen defeated the Red Army in Afghanistan; A few tribes of German “barbarians” sacked Rome and destroyed the Western Empire; A small fleet of English privateers defeated the mighty Spanish Armada in 1588; Some ill-equipped Continental soldiers drove the British out of Colonial America; A pathogenic microbe can wipe out millions of people; And a few middle eastern fanatics almost brought the mighty superpower known as the USA to its knees on the morning of Sept 11, 2001.

      So, just because the enemy is small doesn’t mean he can’t kick your ass!

    12. Stronza Says:

      I’d like to return to the original topic here, namely, early references to the six million number. I heard a tape of an old, old radio show, as follows:

      On December 1943, the Amos and Andy live radio show (white men playing stereotypical Negro characters, but gently & not insultingly) had a special New Years Eve program. In it, Amos dreams that an escaped criminal, due to be executed the next day, arrives at his house demanding to be hidden. The criminal, played by Edward G Robinson, has the number “1943”, his prisoner number, stamped on his prison outfit. He insists that Amos listen to his story before he is executed.

      This criminal, who admitted to a lot of killings “and other things” says that when he was younger he fell in with a bad companion named Adolph. And another named Benito. Then he mentioned that there was a nice boy in the neighborhood named Franklin, who collected stamps, and who he should have been friends with, instead of Adolph & Benito – that way, he would have turned out good, too, instead of a murderer waiting for execution.

      This Prisoner #1943 then states that he was responsible for “killing six million people”. This was 1943, remember.

      Okay, so the criminal in Amos’ dream is a standin for the events of the year 1943 and a vehicle for the most shameless, blatant propagandizing I have heard. And many of us thought it all started in the past few decades.

    13. Z.O.G. Says:

      So, just because the enemy is small doesn’t mean he can’t kick your ass!

      I agree with you completely, Zarathustra. Jews are only 2% of the U.S. population and Israel is a tiny little nation in the Middle East, yet the were able to take down the United States on Sep. 11, 2001.


      The Architecture of Terror: Mapping the Israeli Network Behind 9-11


    14. Zarathustra Says:

      OK, at least we agree that some group of nefarious Semites were responsible for 911. All those Heebs and Mohammedans are desert nomads who cannot build anything; they can only destroy.

    15. Z.O.G. Says:

      Yep, we both agree that 9/11 was a false flag operation carried out by the government of Israel and Jewish dual Israeli citizens in the United States.

      I’m glad we cleared that up. Thanks.


    16. Junghans Says:

      Whew, glad consensus was reached!!

    17. Truth be told Says:

      9/11 was carried out by the Mossad. Here is how they did it including names:


    18. Me and Myself Says:

      Dead London says: “Contrast that with the conspiracy theory requiring drone aircraft, explosive packed buildings, etc. How many conspirators would be necessary to pull such a feat off? 10? 100? 1000?”



    19. Me and Myself Says:

      These were the 12 plotters, most of them Jews:


    20. sean arthur Says:

      Zarathustra, your arguments are poor and all over the map. Understand that we who believe the jews did 9/11 are not to be lumped with Alex Jones and the confusing variety of kooks pushing phantom aircraft, remote control, passengers taken to remote underground lairs, etc.

      No. Our case is simple.

      Calm down, and consider this proposition:

      If it is possible that an Arab conspiracy was the cause of 9/11 (as you claim), then it is also possible that an Israeli conspiracy was the cause of 9/11. Yes? Wait a minute; I haven’t finished.

      You prefer to blame the Arab conspiracy theory, not the Israeli conspiracy theory. Why? On the basis of what you heard our Zionist Occupied Government (and its pseudo opponents) tell you “Bin Laden” said about “his” motives?

      A handful of ragheads mostly from Saudi Arabia did this daring thing with “extreme luck,” a feat that was both a fluke and a vastly coordinated effort of the Arab street (“thousands helped them”)…or a few intelligent Mossad pulled it off, with help from a handful of intelligent tribesmen in the US government (which, it is a fact, is lousy with jewish influence and dual citizens).

      You pick the former. We believe the latter is more realistic.

      What was the mechanism by which the towers were brought down? Explosives planted in the buildings. Not because of the way they fell, but because numerous eyewitnesses, interviewed on the spot, were adamant they heard multiple explosions. There is also video of regular bursts occurring down the lines of the buildings.

      So go on, comparing us to the usual conspiracy nuts that appear on the fringes of any big event, selling hot dogs and flags and books. Bring up JFK, Alex Jones, invisible laser beams, UFOs. Claim that everyone in the palace had to be in on it for a few people to get past the guards. Keep waving your copy of Popular Mechanics and snickering sarcastically about tin foil. Never ask cui bono; always trust the surface, always trust what the consensus says. People so rarely lie. (In regard to cui bono: US military bases remain in the Middle East, and more and larger ones are being constructed. It isn’t the Saudis who benefited.) Ignore how everything played right into the jews’ hands as a result of 9/11. Ignore all the stories about “World War 4” and “We Are All Israelis Now.” Don’t display the bad faith and bad form of questioning anyone’s motives. Forget Occam’s Razor – 19 idiots lucked out, 19 Mossad would never even contemplate arranging for them to do what they did. No one could be that evil! No one could lie so! No, it must be something above-board, like Arab resentment. After all, all the respectable people say so….and you blink your blue eyes….

    21. L. Edwards Says:

      Dead London says: “While WTC 7 wasn’t hit by any planes, what the videos of its collapse don’t show is that the side of the building facing the WTC site was absolutely ripped to pieces by debris from the falling tower next to it. There are photographs available that clearly show a 20 or 25 story hole torn in the building that is at least as deep as a third of the structure’s cross-section”.

      Building 7 did not get hit with debris from tower 1 & 2 because tower 6 was directly in its way and thus protecting it.

      Also Dead London and Zarathustra don’t mention that aircraft fuel can not possibly ever reach the temperture to melt steel. Molten steel can be seen to be pouring out of the side of the trade towers like it’s coming out of foundery. Chemical analysis of the powdered cement show elements consistant with the use of thermite.

      See Thermite Video:

    22. L. Edwards Says:

      Does anyone remember the news reports about a video taken by a bystander at the scene showing clearly the face of Satan being formed from the smoke and fire at 911? To have that being reported on the major news networks and not be questioned was proof that America is the stupidist nation on this earth.