22 April, 2008

Movement People

Posted by Socrates in Socrates, white nationalism, White Nationalists at 3:56 pm | Permanent Link

by John “Birdman” Bryant: [Here].


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    6. 54 Responses to “Movement People”

      1. AMERICAN NAZI PARTY Says:

        For those who seek modern, 21st century National Socialism – not “re-enacting the 3rd Reich” – check out http://www.americannaziparty.com Fighting for the 14words and Social Justice for the White Working Class!

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      2. pcmike Says:

        bryant is a shabbes-goy to me.

        calling william pierce a Jew code word, “Neo_Nazi” because he
        likes White people, shows me he has no value, except to the Jew

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      3. FeralWhiteMale Says:

        This article is full of a lot of misinformation and stupidity…

        Rockwell was not a jew.

        Pierce did a helluva lot more than anyone in the so-called “Movement” ever has with his brilliant broadcasts that were on AM radio nationwide. Unfortunately, they were broadcast at the wrong time (meaning not during rush hour, preferably 24 hours a day).

        The reason David Duke can’t get on mainstream media is not due to his neo-nazi or KKK affiliation, that’s just a convenient excuse. The proof is in the article itself later on when it contradicts itself referring to Jared Taylor — who has never had any affiliation with so-called neo-nazis — whose works such as The Color of Crime was also IGNORED by the lamestream media. So, whether you’re “tainted by your past affiliations” or not, they ignore you for your position or simple truth-telling and call you “racist” etc. Get a clue people, you can’t run from these accusations, so don’t.

        Alex Jones, PC Roberts, et al… allies? Bullshit. If they don’t name the jews, they’re not allies. Period. In fact, both are worse than that… they try to say Bush and co are nazis. That makes them definitely part of the problem and not the solution.

        Carto and Weber… this is the story that never ends. There’s no doubt — according to court transcripts — that Carto stole money (millions of dollars) intended for the IHR (Institute for Historical Review). Numerous people were witness to this and no one was on Carto’s side except a few thugs he paid off. Carto claimed that the money left to an organization he started was for his personal use and not the organization. Hahaha. Right. If you believe that, then you’re a sucker.

        Furthermore, Weber and the IHR are always hurting for funds whereas Carto never is and has squirreled of the money in offshore accounts. Don’t believe it? Check out the financial details of IHR and Weber. There is no money. After that, TRY to find out the details of Willis Carto. That sorry SOB gives his home address as a house number that doesn’t even exist.

        There’s more I could say, but the main point is that there’s plenty of “gossip” and plain bullshit like stuff on the linked page to spread around half the US farmland as fertilizer.

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      4. truthteller Says:

        Now lets see…

        “Rockwell was Jewish, which again reminds us to value and respect our Jewish supporters.”

        “William Pierce: Neo-nazi; associate of George Lincoln Rockwell; founder of the National Alliance and author of the Turner Diaries; now deceased. Pierce wrote many great Movement pieces, but the NA never did anything much except pass out idiotic literature.”

        Just these two posts alone should prove to all serious WN that “Birdman” is a fucking idiot and a crank, with serious mental issues.

        The sad note is, this “movement” is full of mental wrecks like ‘birdman’ that’s why we get nowhere.

        I say call for the men in white coats, ‘Birdman” has been out too long, itz. time to send him back to his psycho ward.

        Stop posting this shit on the VNN Front Page.

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      5. ANDREI YUSTSCHINSKY Says:

        ALEX, TAKE THESE ASSHOLES’ SHIT OFF OF HERE. YEAH THESE GUYS ARE RIGHT ON SOME THINGS, BUT THEY REALLY HAVE NOTHING GOOD TO SAY ABOUT ANYBODY. ROCKWELL A JEW & PIERCE DISTRIBUTING IDIOTIC LITERATURE… FUCK THIS BULLSHIT!!!!

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      6. truthteller Says:

        ANDREI YUSTSCHINSKY

        Myself and Feral are commenting on the “Birdman” article you fucking dope!

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      7. The Hidden Hand of Zion Says:

        I’m not really a fan of the Birdman, but his comments about Tom Metzger are dead on.

        I’ve never understood why Metzger always tries to tapdance his way around the Jewish Question and even sounds somewhat philo-Semitic on occasion.

        In the late 1980s, there were newspaper reports that he’d been secretly taking money from Barry Minkow, a Jewish con man who served time in prison for defrauding his business associates.

        If those reports are true (Metzger has never denied them), it proves that he’s perfectly willing to accept money from known Jewish sources and, apparently, sees nothing wrong with it.

        In my book, accepting money from a known Jewish source is a red-flag warning sign that something funny is going on behind the scenes.

        It’s my personal belief that Metzger has been compromised.

        I say this because it’s the only explanation for his odd behavior that makes any sense to me.

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      8. Heather Blue Says:

        I find it very interesting and entertaining. Love all that talking about our people. It is so much colorful than Jewish lies.

        I always wait to make up my mind about anything!

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      9. MB Says:

        Birdbrain has two main flaws.

        He’s very tin foil. He’ll believe almost anything, evidenced by his relying on “judicial.biz” or whatever it is. He thinks the moon landings were a hoax. Etc.

        He’s way too thin-skinned. The slightest criticism or just difference of opinion with him and he spits fire. He either attacks the person’s intelligence or calls ‘em a traitor or a Jew.

        The comment on Kaminski was amusing, at least. But why put up a list like this at all? Boredom?

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      10. contumacyman Says:

        Birdman claims Hitler was one-fourth jew.

        I suppose that means he buys that nonsense about Hitler’s grandmother spreading for some big-shot jew while serving as a housemaid.

        He also thinks A Jones has some redeeming values, notwithstanding the Gray family nor Bob Stewart.

        Dispense with birdman – he needs help figuring out who is who and what is what.

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      11. ANDREI YUSTSCHINSKY Says:

        I DON’T NOW WHAT TO THINK, ALL WHITES IN THE “MOVEMENT” DON’T HAVE A FUCKIN’ GOOD THING TO SAY ABOUT OTHER ‘PRO-WHITES”….NIGGERS, JEWS, SPICS & THE BOUGHT & PAID FOR SHABBOS GOY WHITES DON’T ACT LIKE THIS! THE ENEMY IS LAUGHING…

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      12. New America Says:

        This is a very useful thread – particularly Bryant’s comments.

        It has crystallized my thinking about something that has been bothering me for a long time, and which the recent events concerning Kevin Alfred Strom have finally forced to the surface.

        Is it just me, or do ALL of these critics of “Movement” members and “Movement” leaders, ALL – with the exceptions of Bill White and Harold Covington – look like they are essentially adolescent males whose Initiation in Manhood, well, misfired?

        Are they ALL – with the exceptions mentioned – look at “Movement ‘Leaders’” the way a sixteen year old looks at his Father, with no understanding of what The Old Man has done, of what The Old Man has put up with?

        Is it my imagination, or are they looking for any flaw, no matter how trivial, and seek to magnify it beyond reason, in an attempt to rationalize their own failures to do anything – ANYTHING – of substance on behalf of our RACE?

        Read Bryant’s summary, and look at other analyses.

        Is it because none of the critics have done, Hell, ANYTHING of substance, and must ruthlessly mock and criticize anyone who is trying, even if they stumble and fall in the pursuit of a RACIAL Purpose for us?

        Are they all angry at Daddy, because they could never “defeat him” – overcome him, in Jungian terms – by doing remotely as good, much less remotely better?

        Is this part and parcel of the failure of White Nationalism to accomplish anything of substance – way too many Adolescent Males in the bodies of Adult Men?

        Let me use an example in an area of which I am slightly knowledgeable.

        I listen to those who criticized Edgar Steele, for his failure to perform miracles on magic. They are part and parcel of the same group who told Steele for YEARS – “Start something like the ACLU for our People, our RACE, and I’ll send some money to back it.”

        Steele admitted that the total contributions came to a little more than TWO HUNDRED DOLLARS.

        Litigation – particularly Federal litigation – even when the System is fair, and even when the attorney is working pro bono, is still a hellaciously expensive undertaking for anyone who wished to challenge The State – the same State that certified all attorneys in the courtroom, certifies and hires the judge, and whose interests are ALWAYS well-represented, by the best law firm in town – the US Attorney’s office.

        Against that, you have clients who want you to waste days introducing exotic motions, all derived from a misunderstanding of the legal process, and most derived from a dangerous combination of willful ignorance, and wishful thinking.

        So, you have clients who don’t understand The Game, or The Rules, and yet are more than willing to see you, not as an attorney who is doing his best against horrifically long odds, but as a magic toy, who can make the Federal Judge do what he wants with skillful incantation, and “Justice On Our Side.”

        TWO HUNDRED DOLLARS!

        THAT is what Justice is worth to us.

        Hell, THAT’S TIP MONEY in the restaurants at a Federal trial…

        Again, what were they seeking?

        “Magic Daddy.”

        Then, the ignorant fools criticize “Daddy” for not being God…

        TWO HUNDRED DOLLARS!

        That’s tip money!

        They do NOT take The Enterprise seriously, and they reap what they have sown.

        TWO HUNDRED GODDAMN MEASLY DOLLARS!

        That WOULD be a damn insult, except that they were serious – as serious as a Child can be, looking at an Adult world…

        And THAT might be part and parcel of the core of why White Nationalism has been such a miserable failure.

        The fault is not in the stars of White Nationalism, on this one.

        The fault is in our selves.

        New America

        An Idea Whose Time Is HERE!

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      13. -jc Says:

        Jew Woody Allen referred to pigeons as “flying rats.”

        On inhaled bird shit:

        http://chppm-www.apgea.army.mil/ento/tg142.htm

        “Health Effects. Clinical manifestations of pulmonary infection are not characteristic and may be absent. The infection may disseminate to the central nervous system, resulting in cryptococcal meningitis (inflammation of the membranes of the brain and spinal cord), which is difficult to diagnose and fatal if not properly, and promptly, treated.”

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      14. Donald E. Pauly Says:

        I failed to mention in my comments that the Birdman published that I read and printed out all 1227 pages of Pierce’s FBI report. He had dumped the entire old mailing list of the National Alliance in the Pocahontas County landfill and it was recovered from the FBI. All old time National Aliance members are known to them.

        It is essentially certain that he was blackmailed over the Mathews bank robbery money by the FBI. They could hold a long jail sentence over him forever for failing to report it to the IRS. The FBI report makes it clear that they knew about it.

        This blackmail kept him from ever doing anything dangerous to G-d’s Pets. Hitler achieved power in 14 years and Mao in about the same time (with timeout for the war against Japan). Pierce worked for 30 years in his hilltop hideaway and accomplished very little.
        He also never had a real job which hurt his understanding of the world.

        This does not detract from Pierce being a fine author and understanding the Jewish Question. Perhaps we should be amazed that he did as much as he did while being hamstrung by the FBI.

        Pierce’s propaganda was laughable. The best example is the photo of a supposedly missing White girl that is a bait and switch ad for the National Alliance. It set off anyone with a fit of rage who does not understand racial science. The Jews can teach us about propaganda. It is like a duck in water for them.

        One of my colleagues here in Sin City sent Billy Roper a well designed flyer using correct propaganda principles. He sent an email back in less than five minutes rejecting it. It was impossible to read it in that time. It was ten times better that any of the dozen ones that they had in stock.

        Pierces recording on the hate line here was something like 3 minutes and 48 seconds long. It scared or turned off most of the callers and resulted in near total hangups. We put up a 30 message from a female German immigrant with a touch of accent and a sexy voice. Pierce had a conniption fit and demanded that it be taken down.

        As Alex Linder correctly observed some years ago, Pierce was selling memberships in a fan club. I hate to say it but good riddance to Pierce. We need leaders not hero worship.

        Donald E. Pauly
        Zionist Rastafarian

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      15. Socrates Says:

        Donald E. Pauly:

        Dr. Pierce’s primary value was as a philosopher. We learned a lot from him. I am forever grateful to him. All WNs should CAREFULLY STUDY Pierce’s ideology. I will not criticize him.

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      16. New America Says:

        in reply to Donald E. Pauly AND Socrates:

        It might – MIGHT – be helpful to see Pierce as he was, and, given the limitations he faced, what he did should be placed in that context.

        Pierce, according to Harold Covington, essentially turned the National Alliance into a system that sold books and tapes by, if memory serves, ’96.

        That seems consistent with Pauly’s critique of Pierce’s PR initiatives; literally, the effective posters, and effective tape messages, would attract more people, and possibly, more people than the National Alliance could handle.

        Indeed, so many people that a possible spin-off would be possible, which would create the political arm that has been long-needed; indeed, it would be hard to find why Pierce, and the National Alliance, would not support such an organization.

        Unless there was the threat that it might possibly be effective; look at the supporters for Perot, and Buchanan. Given a little professionalism in political organization, they would be perfect candidates for a National Alliance designed political organization, and maybe even enough for a party…

        THAT might prove a bit of a challenge for The Chosen, so it seems such efforts were, essentially, shipped in the bud.

        That having been said, let’s accept Pierce for what he was – a great analyst and philosopher of our RACIAL situation, and let’s accept upon ourselves the Adult Duty To Be What We Want The World To Become.

        In sum – Daddy’s GONE, and we – WE – must now fulfill that Role, individually, today, and collectively, in time.

        How much time?

        That is up to us.

        New America

        An Idea Whose Time Is HERE!

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      17. ein Says:

        Jew Woody Allen referred to pigeons as “flying rats.”

        I never thought I would, but that’s one thing on which I can agree with him.
        Anyway, I’ve seen that statement made elsewhere , so it’s not an original on his part.

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      18. John "Birdman" Bryant Says:

        BIRDMAN RESPONDS

        I am amazed at the incredible congeries of ignorant and stupid comments about my essay on Movement People. Let me begin by noting that I have personally received only a couple of very mild criticisms of the essay, all which I posted as quotes of the day, so maybe if the VNN readers who have such a hard-on about my essay started reading my webpage, they would be a lot better informed, hence would not be so inclined to fly off the handle about sensitive issues.

        Now to respond to some particular complaints raised against my essay by the VNN posts, I offer the following comments:

        Complaint (FeralWhiteMale, truthteller): Rockwell wasn’t a Jew.
        Response: As I mentioned, Judicial has a posting on this which I find credible, and can be read at http://judicial-inc.biz/rockwell_of_nazi.htm Maybe someone can poke some holes in it (Judicial is far from perfect), but the complainer didn’t bother, so until we see a refutation of Judicial — and no one has sent me the least contrary evidence since I posted it sometime ago — then I think we can write this complaint off as hot air. To this I might add that Hitler was also part Jewish, a matter which has been thoroughly documented by Kardel’s Hitler: Founder of Israel, Jim Condit’s video (don’t know title), Goldberg’s The Jewish Connection, Epperson’s The Unseen Hand, and at least one other place. In fact, as Kardel and others have noted, Jews played a prominent place in the Third Reich — 70 generals were Jewish, for example. It is time, therefore, that the Airhead Aryans, such as many of those posting in this thread, acknowledge their debt to Movement Jews.

        Complaint (pcmike): That I called Pierce a neo-nazi.
        Response: That’s exactly what he was. He was a member of Rockwell’s organization, whose name was The American NAZI Party. DUUUHHHHHHH!!!!!

        Complaint (FeralWhiteMale): That I said that Duke’s nazi and KKK affiliations were impediments.
        Response: OF COURSE they are impediments, because when you get these things pinned on you, it looks bad to a lot of people (Remember, we fought the nazis in WW2, and the Klan has been responsible for a lot of very ugly violence, irrespective of whatever good they may have done.) And when TV producers have to go up against the threat of complaints for giving such people a forum, that makes them think twice about giving Duke or whoever a forum. This is probably why Taylor has done much better than Duke in terms of getting media air time.

        Complaint (FeralWhiteMale): Carto stole millions of dollars from the IHR.
        Response: Carto FOUNDED the IHR. (Can you steal money from yourself?) The conflict between Carto and the IHR people was about two things — (1) the editorial direction (Carto wanted to leave behind the Holocaust stuff, it having been worked to death, and do something like he is doing with the Barnes Review), and (2) a bequest made to the IHR by an Edison heir. Carto was right on (1) — the Barnes Review flourishes, while the IHR has virtually melted away — but he was resisted by his entrenched employees and contributors (eg, Faurisson) because their autopilot was set on Holocaust. As for (2), it was only by virtue of Carto expending a million or so dollars of his own money that the bequest was secured (He had to contest the will in Switzerland against high-price lawyers). At the time all this was going on, I was reading both the IHR Journal and Carto’s Spotlight, and the distinguishing feature of the dispute was that Carto published a number of extensive and detailed reports on the dispute, while the JHR published NOTHING. To me, that meant that Carto was almost certainly right, because surely the IHR people would have defended themselves if they could have.

        Complaint (truthteller): Truthteller repeats what I had to say about Pierce, and then claims this proves (along with the assertion that Rockwell was a Jew) that I am a ‘fucking idiot’ etc etc etc.
        Response: This is SO TYPICAL of many white racialists — nothing but insults to those they disagree with, but absolutely no proof that they are right or the other guy is wrong. (In this particular case, I can’t even determine what truthteller’s complaint is.) But the really important point is that, with friends like these, who needs enemies? There is simply no hope for a ‘Movement’ with people like this — ignorant, arrogant, bristling with hate, and couldn’t even get along with a dog.

        Complaint (MB): (a) I’ll believe anything (referring to Judicial on Rockwell) which is ‘proved’ because I question the Moon landings (again, no argument, just a claim); (b) “He’s way too thin-skinned. The slightest criticism or just difference of opinion with him and he spits fire. He either attacks the person’s intelligence or calls ‘em a traitor or a Jew.”
        Response: We have already discussed Rockwell and Judicial. As to the Moon landings, the matter is really analogous to the Holocaust: “Everybody knows” that they happened, but a careful examination of the evidence leaves some very strong doubts. I am not saying they didn’t happen, but I am saying, given the doubts, that I am very skeptical. (Gee, it does seem that people who think the Holocaust is a hoax might have learned to question Establishment opinion a little better that MB has.) As to the ‘thin-skinned’ accusation, I am the ONLY PERSON IN CYBERSPACE who allows ALL of my critics to post their criticisms on my site. (Is that ‘thin-skinned’? I don’t think so.) Yes, I will answer those criticisms — often with cutting wit and sarcasm, when apt — but that is the risk that critics take, and has had the effect of making critics a lot more careful about what they say, particularly when it is not true — which it rarely is, particularly in this space.

        I believe this takes care of most of the major points. I will refrain from posting further on this, as I do not care to throw pearls before swine.

        Love,
        Birdman

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      19. Texe Marrs Says:

        Turdman needs to be thrown in the oven along with all the kikesses he has “loved.”

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      20. 13colonies Says:

        I’ve noticed that anyone a white nationalist doesn’t like, for any reason, is labeled a “jew,” whether they are one or not. And that includes anyone who isn’t an upfront hater, perhaps is a woman not submissive to their male authority, etc.

        We spend far too much time fighting among ourselves and engaging in what I consider childish name-calling. I’m sure this movement is infiltrated to the hilt with ADL/ACLU types, and government plants, but to call anyone who disagrees with you a jew is counter-productive and stupid. Consider this: anyone who is a plant will either stay silent, or AGREE with you, perhaps even urge you to do something illegal, such as harming a racial minority.

        I think what has held the WN community back is its hate, and its focus on those who supposedly have held whites down. It’s important to acknowledge their impact, and then move on. We need to get beyond blaming the Chosen and the greedy minorities and the govt. We will advance only by LOVING OUR OWN PEOPLE, not by hating others.

        Birdman has certainly stirred up the MENSA community of which he is a member, and there is no doubt he possesses superior intelligence. Again, his primary contribution is as a philosopher; he’s not a public demonstrator. He exists in the internet realm of virtual reality, never venturing out into public to demonstrate for the cause, as far as I know. It’s a safe place to be. He gets hate email, but he’s not really risking his life. And in his evaluation he stated that it was only his OPINION. I wonder if he has actually met any of the people whom he critiques? There is a world of difference between contact on the internet and getting to know someone in person.

        I am a White Nationalist, but I do not participate in most WN things because I am turned off by the hate. If WN’s were to focus on loving our own people, and advancing our own ppl, then I think we could accomplish much, and with far less govt infiltration.

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      21. Osama bin Laden Says:

        Birdman as a philosopher? LMAO! Wow.

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      22. Osama bin Laden Says:

        Birdman posts thoroughly discredited documentation accusing everyone of being a Jew. Yawn. The accusations of Rockwell being a Jew rests on Rockwell having participated in Jewish academia and being around Jewish people. By that logic, we’re all Jewish by our participation in modern society. ::rolls eyes::

        Hitler is Jewish? Okay, whatever buddy. If you enjoy posting things that have been long since debunked and discredited, be my guest. You’re just proving yourself to be the loon that you are.

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      23. truthteller Says:

        Comment to New America:

        Losers – Tend to bring in Losers!

        ‘Birdman’ – who let you out your psycho ward you mental case?

        While we have people like ‘Birdman’, who claim to speak for us, then we have no hope in gaining intelligent White people to our cause.

        Let me clarify, this “movement” is chock full of losers, mental cases, drunks, kiddie fidddlers, wasters, thieves. as I pointed out to New America – LOSERS. our so called ‘leadership’ over many years has attracted this sort. That doesn’t say much for the ‘leadership’ now does it.

        People like ‘Birdman’ are poison to this cause, he is a crank and a loser, and a mental case. We need to cast swine like him out into the netherworld forever. They hold us back, because with their stupid utterances, they show the rest of the White world, that we are nothing but cranks and idiots. For him to cast doubts on Rockwell and Pierce’s racial history and activism, they who have done more for this cause than any who have come after them (so far).

        Those of us who can see and understand that we have people like ‘Birdman’ involved should not sit back and let them get away with their nonsense. We should confront them, so as to show to the rest of the White world, that people like John ‘Birdman’ Bryant do not speak for us.

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      24. M. Kraus Says:

        “Let me clarify, this “movement” is chock full of losers, mental cases, drunks, kiddie fidddlers, wasters, thieves.”

        So is the “civil rights movement”. So is the “gay rights movement”. So is the “fundamentalist” or “evangelical” sector. So is the US military. So are the Republican and Democrat parties.

        Yet, all of those groups continue to advance their agendas. They don’t care about the presence of a few defectives in their ranks. They discard them, and push on, and make headway.

        We can do the same. Stop the goddamned bickering and finger pointing. Accept that there will always be maladjusted types who, for whatever reason, are attracted to our cause. Don’t coddle them, and don’t become demoralized when their sickness is exposed. Weed the garden, and keep growing.

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      25. MB Says:

        So, Bryant considers judicial.inc a credible source and the moon landings might not have happened because the holohoax didn’t? Rockwell and Hitler might have been Jews because no one has disproved it?

        First off, whether judicial is a credible source is a matter of judgment. I urge Bryant to read all of judicial’s material. I can only think he hasn’t because I don’t think he’s stupid.

        Based on many things I’ve read and on my understanding of modern history, I’m very confident that the holohoax didn’t happen. I know for a fact that the moon landings did but I will not say just how I know it. Take that as you will. Without irrefutable evidence either way, it’s another judgment call on Hitler and Rockwell. In my opinion, there’s a mountain of evidence that they weren’t in any way Jewish, based mostly on what they did with their lives. Arguing in favor of it are judicial and the usual kikes. Gee, what should I believe?

        I do thank Bryant for exhibiting here the very personality trait I ascribed to him in my earlier post.

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      26. apollonian Says:

        Mighty Birdman Needs To Demonstrate Sincerity, Substance
        (Apollonian, 23 Apr 08)

        That doggone “birdman,” hey, he’s entertaining, and gets lots of attention fm people, well-deserved, I think. Birdman is one of those guys who’s rather, but not overwhelmingly, literate, I submit, but not at all very strong actual scholar–even though he pretends he is. Such then is the value of his “40 books,” etc., I submit. Birdman is weak, at least on certain things, many of these very important things, like scholarship and logic.

        For best scholar is SCIENTIST, and proves conclusions by means of confirmable, specific sense perception (though in scholarship this sensory evidence isn’t always possible, obviously–that’s why there’s difference, though not too much, btwn strictest science and scholarship).

        Birdman TRIES to be a scholar, perhaps, but he shows his weakness on the Hitler-being-Jew subject; he (birdman) thinks it’s sufficient to merely “dropping names,” and to cite hearsay by pretended scholar–a Jew, Kardel–this is weak. And incidentally, that’s about all birdman has for a source, this Jew, Kardel.

        And note anytime birdman is then questioned on specific evidence for Hitler’s-being-Jew subject, HE NEVER, EVER can say anything substantial. Once he replied to my question by saying, “read the book” (by Kardel, the Jew)–birdman thinks this is sufficient or acceptable. So again, birdman is literate, clever, etc., but not a very good or very strong scholar–and he doesn’t seem to realize how weak he really is.

        And like a girl or a Jew, birdman continues to insist Hitler was “almost certainly” a Jew. And then birdman wonders why we hard-heads speak of him as such a pretentious weakling–at least upon subject of unc’ Adolf, and larger subject of scholarship itself.

        Another time, when I asked again about his “evidence” regarding Hitler, birdman responded (again like a girl), well it’s not like I can “put it into 25 words or less.” Birdman won’t admit HE HAS NO SOLID EVIDENCE, merely material which leads him to wishfully INDUCE–which then he demands others disprove.

        I wonder if birdman even understands the difference btwn induction and deduction.

        I tried to help birdman by narrowing the controversy for him: the facts reduce to Hitler’s grandmother being impregnated out of wedlock, this evidently while working at the Jew’s place–so what is the actual story then?–what actual evidence is there for grandma being knocked-up by Jew?–is this so difficult question? Birdman says absolutely nothing for such unlikely event.

        For who hasn’t looked at pictures of unc’ Adolf? And who, among those who make it their business, hasn’t noted the absolutely un-mistakable, mis-shapen skull-structure of Jews, those distinctly hook-nosed, hatchet-faced, cretinous monstrosities, esp. the top-most, upper-level -type bankers who are so notoriously inbred with other Jew banker families? Is there even THE SLIGHTEST hint Hitler bears those cretinous traits of kikish skull-structure?

        So as one who strives to keep to highest scholarly standards I reminded mighty birdman he had OBLIGATION to provide more substantial reasoning for his UN-LIKELY contention unc’ Adolf was Jew.

        Birdman never fails to act the girl, ALWAYS demurely refusing and neglecting to give any evidence or substantiation but to “dropping names” like Kardel, the Jew author. And note birdman has had numerous opportunities to “deliver,” but ALWAYS birdman acts “the girl”–even “the Jew”–with his consistent demurings, refusals and failures, Yet PERSISTING with his repeated, unsubstantiated assertions regarding unc’ Adolf.

        So why actually does birdman persist with this utterly absurd pretense of his regarding Hitler? I submit obvious answer is birdman is always trolling for money and acknowledgement fm Jews, birdman insisting there are some “good” Jews, like there are “good” psychopaths.

        And note then how birdman takes on the characteristics of Jew-ness, always–and I mean always, consistently, repeatedly–acting coy, like a girl, as I describe above, regarding this issue of unc’ Adolf. Birdman has a serious problem, which he doesn’t seem to realize.

        And now over the years numerous patriots and honest observers have evermore noted this glaring absurdity of birdman (just regarding this Hitler issue) who, observe also, makes so much for being a member of MENSA.

        CONCLUSION: So I suggest to mighty birdman, who pretends he’s so smart and competent: he needs to begin to starting to get down to “brass tacks,” so to speak, and say, in reasonable detail, just exactly what he knows about unc’ Adolf. And birdman needs to do better than invoke Jim Condit who’s just another weakling in much the same manner as birdman. I doubt birdman can do it, this serious scholarly production, as it would be so out of character for him, so inured he is to superficiality and mere fashionable posturing. Honest elections and death to the Fed.

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      27. sgruber Says:

        Birdman is a frivolous and jokey scribbler, and the main point of his article “Movement People” is:

        WN are worse than we thought – and jews are better than we think.

        The rest of his article was attitude, platitude, and baseless gossip.

        Note all the times jews are praised as “allies” in the article. Birdman even permits himself this statement: “Maybe if [Duke] had had the benefit of some Jewish genes he could have held onto the money long enuf to use it for its intended purpose.”

        (Birdman also permits himself to swing off on this eyebrow-raising little tangent: “some Movement prudes who get upset about sex in any form, particularly when involving people who just so happen to be below an arbitrary age, even tho we are all sexual from Day One (Males even have erections in the womb — hear that, you mutha-fukkas?).” Draw your own conclusions.)

        In short, he is a pro-jew weirdo.

        The time has come to get rid of the jews.

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      28. sgruber Says:

        13colonies said:

        “I think what has held the WN community back is its hate, and its focus on those who supposedly have held whites down. It’s important to acknowledge their impact, and then move on. We need to get beyond blaming the Chosen”

        Don’t blame the jew – that’s hateful.

        Thank you, patriotard.

        You may now go back to watching your favorite philosopher – Oprah.

        Meanwhile, remember that there is no love without hate and vice-versa. The man who cannot hate, cannot and does not love.

        The time has come to get rid of the jews.

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      29. Osama bin Laden Says:

        sgruber: His point was that the movement has not done anything more than collectively bemoan Jews. Its important to educate newcomers about Jews but to sit around on forums all day going “jew this jew that” is not productive.

        Most people here do not have the foggiest formulation of a political plan other than to “kill all the jews and muds”. Linder is intelligent and has some good ideas but unfortunately most of the movement consists of infantile whining among the less intelligent of us.

        White Nationalism needs to be more than a “oppose the Jews and non-Whites” movement. It actually needs to be an organic conceptualization for Whites to live and thrive in. It has yet to transcend useless gutter talk and do something to achieve this.

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      30. MB Says:

        “White Nationalism needs to be more than a “oppose the Jews and non-Whites” movement. It actually needs to be an organic conceptualization for Whites to live and thrive in. It has yet to transcend useless gutter talk and do something to achieve this.”

        While this is mostly true, I have to say that education about the Jews is a major step, and from what I can tell it is happening all over the world. The Jews themselves certainly have had more to do with this than have WNs but it is still a very good sign. I wouldn’t discount the role WNs have played in magnifying it over the internet.

        Most WNs seem to think that the next step should be figuring a way to secure power. Clearly none have figured a way to do this and I’m sure this frustration has a lot to do with our endless internal bickering. At the risk of being called defeatist, I’ll say that I don’t believe it’ll happen. At least not until the current empirical structure is completely dissolved. Then again, I may be wrong. History is unreliable about this.

        In the meantime, let a thousand blossoms bloom. Even Bryant has his value – certainly more than some on his list.

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      31. 13colonies Says:

        I’m not saying that the Jews have nothing to do with our present predicament; far from it. But not all internationalists/globalists are Jews. “Get rid of the jews” is like saying ship all the Negroes back to Africa or send all the Mexicans home, etc. No matter how much you might wish for same, it’s not going to happen–things have gone too far for that. If you want to live in a society with only white ppl, move to Iceland (if they will have you) or Idaho.

        What I’m suggesting is that we WNs make a conscious effort to spend our money in a way which helps our own people. I suppose most here dislike NOI (Nation of Islam), but what they have going for them is that they try to keep the money in their own community, and they spend some effort on creating self-sustaining black businesses.

        Spending your money in such a way that it benefits other Caucasians means that you have to THINK about how your spending benefits Commies, Liberals, Minorities which you do not like, foreign countries, or illegal aliens in the U.S. This means buy as little as possible from countries such as China, do not do business with companies who hire illegal aliens, do not give any money to liberals or to corporations which support liberal causes, etc. If we would just withhold our spending it would go a long way toward advancing our own cause.

        To those who say that the Jews own the media, I say we need to buy massive blocks of stock in the publicly-traded media companies and then go to shareholder meetings and elect a Board of Directors and officers who will represent the interests of White Nationalists. But the more we chip away at each other, the more this reduces our ability to unite the same way all the other MINORITY groups have done for their own benefit, and to create the type of world in which we want to live.

        Instead, we waste our time hating those who we perceive to be acting against our interests. Hate does not serve our purpose.
        We need to educate everyone we can, and then we need to act together as one group to advance our own interests. After all, if a bunch of black folks can vote as a block, why can’t we?

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      32. Osama bin Laden Says:

        MB: No one has even formed a viable political party. Britain has its BNP (despite our misgivings about Griffin, he’s accomplishing something), Germany has the NDP, the Swiss have their Swiss People’s Party, France has Front National, and etc.

        American Whites have nothing but message boards and costume rallies. I’d rather be a part of Nick Griffin’s philosemitic BNP than part of American WN. There are legitimate reasons to consider it as more challenging (uniting all the different White ethnic groups in America under a single platform is monumental challenge), however, we have made little progress regardless and that is sad.

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      33. Stronza Says:

        Birdman is pretty smart, but I am leery of anyone who describes anti-pedophiles as prudish. Yes, we are “sexual” from Day 1. So what- that makes it okay to be a dirty old man diddling little girls and boys because you can’t find an adult to do it with. Ugh.

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      34. MB Says:

        Osama, the main reason that WNs in the US are behind their European counterparts is the drastic difference in the respective territories. Until American WNs give up on the ridiculous idea of “saving America”, and work to break it up, they’ll never control anything. There’s a reason that Jews love big consolidated empires, and it’s not just their greed. England, alas, has no more empire. It’s comparatively simple to organize among people all of whom you can reach in a day or two.

        Costume parties? Yes, you’re right.

        Can we agree on this?

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      35. shabbos s. shabazz Says:

        Well, flip him the bird, man!

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dbbezhL_Co

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      36. Mark Says:

        I like Birdman’s tenacity and some of what he writes. If anything is certain, he does advocate free speech without a doubt.

        My main criticism of his Movement People essay, was his inclusion of anti-racists alongside real racialists. Alex Jones belongs alongside William Pierce? Ha! I don’t see how Alex Jones is in the White Liberation Movement as Birdman calls it, not even marginally. He’s more interested in selling his videos to all races.

        There are some things I find disturbing about him though… the most disturbing is his argument in favor of pedophilia, that there’s no proof it’s bad for children.

        His pic of the day for today illustrates this further. Even if she is 18, she looks younger. She’s certainly a lot younger than Birdman. http://www.thebirdman.org/Index/Others/Others-Girl.jpg

        A minor complaint is his attitude towards Movement people, which seems adversarial and disrespectful. He seems elitist more than racialist.

        Granted, many people in the Movement are unpleasant, as are many people in the general population. However one should be guided by his own principles and beliefs, not just by how others behave.

        Another thing is that for a man of his intelligence, why is his website so basic and cluttered? Yes, it has some good information, if only I could find it! :)

        In spite of some complaints, I think he’s intelligent and I welcome his contribution to the White Liberation Movement as he calls it.

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      37. ein Says:

        I enjoyed Birdman’s article (which is not to say that I agreed with all of it, but I found the opinions interesting and also much information which I didn’t know) . I even forwarded it to a friend (who enjoyed it immensely). I was however, frankly surprised at the naivety, or gullibility, in using sources like Judicial as any sort of a credible reference. I have come to regard that site as a sloppy joke, an embarrassment (if it’s not intended to be something even worse). True, even fools and liars can hit on the truth now and then, but I wouldn’t place bets on it. Even trolls and provocateurs will occasionally speak the truth.

        I returned to Judicial to re-read its indictment of Rockwell. I still find NOTHING in there to be convincing. Now, I can’t say that Rockwell was not a Jew, of course, but I’m not persuaded that he was a Jew either. Judicial typically makes flimsy, unsubstantiated allegations and then just leaves them hanging in air. For instance, Rockwell’s parents worked in vaudeville. Well, so what? We knew that. Not EVERYBODY who worked in Vaudeville was a Jew. And he “grew up surrounded by Jewish entertainers”. Well, that would be quite natural in the circumstances, but does that makes him one? I grew up in Jew York City, but that didn’t make me a Jew. And his first wife was a Jew: Oh? — totally unsubstantiated, not even her name is given. Nothing! And Brown Univ. is “a hotbed of Jews” . So are all the big Ivy League universities, when you come down to it. Does that mean that everyone who goes there is Jewish? And his assassin (who was really Patsalos, not Patler) was a Jew? Where’s the proof? (I believe Patsalos is a Greek name.) We only have Judicial’s word for it. Are we supposed to believe it simply because Judicial tells us so? Sorry, I expect a higher standard of proof than that. And I could go on.

        As for Hebron Academy, a boarding school, Judicial states that he “attended a nice Jewish school in Maine”. What supports that statement? Anyone could easily check it out. It is listed specifically as “nonsectarian” and there is no evidence whatsoever that is it “a Jewish school.” It is simply located in the town of Hebron, that’s all. It was founded in 1804 at a time when there were very few Jews in the US, much fewer in Maine, but when classical and biblical names were exceedingly popular. New England is dotted with towns and institutions with such names, since that was the fashion of the time. I suppose that Judicial would say that Abe Lincoln was Jew because his name was Abraham!

        Even the allegations that “Hitler was a Jew”…. Who says so? All Jews!

        Yes, I enjoyed Birdman’s article and his follow-up (as did my friend), but without meaning personal offense to Birdman (if he’s reading this), I remain a skeptic on some details. He needs to be a little more critical of his references .

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      38. jn6 Says:

        I concur 100% with 13colonies. I used to be active in the WN movement, but after a while I got fed up with it. All the hate. All the name calling. Disagree with someone and now you’re a jew.

        I am familiar with jews. I know what they do, can do, and have done. They can and will and have lied about who they are and what they have done, but history cannot be erased.

        I think what 13colonies is saying, is we should quit the hate. Just quit it! We an still be proud of being white without all the hate. Show the other side that we’re better than them. Instead of shaking a fist at them cussing them out, smile, wave and say “good morning!” happily. So long as you are white, it IS a good morning indeed.

        Hatred has gotten us no where. Be at peace. Be happy. Even if you see a negro or a jew, be happy. They hate it when you do that!

        WPWW!

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      39. DQ Says:

        WTF that article reminded me of a jewish gossip magazine. There were many people left out and some who probably shouldn’t have been on. What makes you in the movement? Almost everything is moving I like in the struggle better. It also implied that if judaical-inc says it it must be true. Fuck that website! One of the new jewish propaganda techniques for the awakened is what the ninjas called the one eyed snake trick(not a penis joke). Judaical-inc likes to use it. The trick is that you make someone think you are better than you are. Creation comes from Europe and the Khazar, Mongol, Hun trinity didn’t make shit. The smartest elements that are in modern day jews is from the white blood within them. It looks like Birdman thinks jews have more for us than any of us. Maybe they have but not intentionally. They have and will help us because it is the struggle that makes you strong. I would like Rockwell to come back to life so that birdman could call him a jew to his face and then show him one of the most bullshit websites I’ve ever seen. I used some of Rockwells arguements earlier today. His books are very useful. Everyone who is not a demon jew that hears his speech at Brown is convinced. But the good thing about Birdman’s gossip article is that it has promoted great conversation.

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      40. ein Says:

        sgruber commented:
        13colonies said: “I think what has held the WN community back is its hate, and its focus on those who supposedly have held whites down. It’s important to acknowledge their impact, and then move on. We need to get beyond blaming the Chosen”

        Don’t blame the jew – that’s hateful.

        Thank you, patriotard. You may now go back to watching your favorite philosopher – Oprah.

        No! He did NOT say “Don’t blame the Jew”. He said, “acknowledge their impact, and then move on”. In other words, don’t obsess over it.

        With all respect to gruber, we all know what the score is. Hearing it a thousand times instead of a hundred doesn’t make it any truer. And doesn’t solve it any better either. 13colonies made good points! We should avoid the negativity. And the”internal bickering.” I needn’t say any more, because Osama has already articulated my position very well for me. And as MB says, “Let a thousand blossoms bloom.” I agree.

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      41. 13colonies Says:

        I’ve come to the conclusion after years of activism that whenever you oppose something, it’s a negative. Being FOR something is a positive. You can still Oppose something and be FOR something at the same time. The unfortunate thing is that the negativity can be overwhelming and counter-productive. What I’m saying is that we need more serious strategizing and less hate. And if we were a more positive movement, it just might get the eff be eye off our backs.

        I’m not trying to bring a Christian message of love to the movement, as the mushy stuff is not my style; rather I think we need to aspire to a higher goal. For example, the feminist movement is finally moving beyond hating men for what they have done, and realizing that women have to do for themselves. It started out with consciousness-raising (a degree of which we are trying to do here in terms of education about the influence of Commies and Jews) about the oppression of women and the need for more respect for women as a group, and then evolved into more practical actions such as equal wages for equal work and trying to break through the glass ceiling and pushing the ERA.

        I know I am going to offend some here by comparing our struggle to that of minorities, but remember the 14 words, as we are well on our way to becoming a minority. The course charted by minorities has been very effective in securing rights for their own groups, and there is no reason why we can’t use the system and the same tactics to succeed.

        I’ll give another example of success through positive action: Jesus. Most people think of him as preaching peace and love, even though he opposed his own people when they were acting as money-changers in the Temple and drove them out with a whip. The Christian Church has many faults, but they have succeeded in the last century by preaching peace and love. People want to hear that God loves them, and love “sells” very well. It’s a psychological thing. I think we should try loving our own kind more, and hating others less.

        My impression of some of the major haters in some posts is that they are poor whites living and working in circumstances that they did not choose, cheek-to-jowl with minorities they do not like. It’s easy to say, get a better job, make more money and move, but in this economy upward mobility is very difficult. So what’s the solution for such WNs? Learn to live with the minorities in peace?
        Or perhaps move to Idaho where it’s extraordinarily hard to make a living? Or kill all the minorities?

        While some might entertain homicidal thoughts, I think the frustration of those is a major source of hate-filled posts. We can’t get rid of them, so we’re going to say nasty things about them.
        If you are going to lessen the effectiveness of a movement, you attack the leaders first. Once the leaders have been smeared by the media, or have dropped out of the cause, the sheeple will follow. 90%, if not more, of the ppl in this country are followers, and if there is no one to lead them, then they will be silent and ineffective.

        I’ve learned a lot from reading David Duke’s writings, but I was very dismayed to learn that he gambled away contributor’s money! Can we please find better leaders, ones with principles and morals, ones who won’t commit crimes, and ones who cannot be blackmailed or “turned?” Think carefully before you look to anyone as a leader. During the recent immigration debates, I happen to think that publishing the congresscritters home addresses was a masterful stroke by Hal Turner, altho typically I do not agree with his “kill them all” point of view.

        All I’m saying is, let’s do more practical political strategizing and less venting. The enemy wants us to continue to fight among ourselves; it’s their multicultural, race-mixing “helter-skelter” strategy. The first thing we must do is to prevent any more minorities from entering this country. We need to convince Congress to STOP immigration and reverse the third world preference law in the 1965 immigration act. We already have enough minorities, and we don’t have to import them, illegally or legally.

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      42. Hoosier Says:

        13colonies Says:
        24 April, 2008 at 10:25 am

        I’ve come to the conclusion after years of activism that whenever you oppose something, it’s a negative. Being FOR something is a positive. You can still Oppose something and be FOR something at the same time. The unfortunate thing is that the negativity can be overwhelming and counter-productive. What I’m saying is that we need more serious strategizing and less hate. And if we were a more positive movement, it just might get the eff be eye off our backs.

        Yes, I agree. It’s much easier to focus on something positive, like building, that to focus on something negative, like destroying. Destroying may have to take place in the process of building, but psychologically, it’s much easier to focus on building. Not only is it easier, you win more too!

        I learned this by, of all things, playing Texas Hold’em Poker.

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      43. 13colonies Says:

        I disagree. How often have you heard compliments directed toward you? I think it’s much easier for most ppl to complain. We live in a society that thrives on complaint, not gratitude. IT’s the welfare mentality. And anyone who has done demolition work knows the gratification of knocking something down. To build requires planning and thought. To destroy is easy. Have you ever read Atlas Shrugged? In that society, everything had to be destroyed before they could rebuild, but even then there was a “hidden valley” type of refuge for those “in the know.” I’m not sure if this will be our future, but being prepared for any eventuality is not a bad idea. I cannot emphasize this enough: if we do not start being more positive, the goobers are gonna continue to be on our asses. The question is: have we reached the point where withdrawal is the only salvation, or should we continue to fight? Wherever we are, the yid hand of the adl and the splc will reach out and touch us if we truly espouse hate. Even if we don’t, they might still try to hurt us. Time to go offshore with any of those assets. These are strategic things we still need to learn.

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      44. Hoosier Says:

        I don’t understand where you are coming from then, 13 colonies.
        I agreed with your statement, and then you disagree with me. Anyway, it is gratifying to beat the shit out of someone, especially if they are obnoxious and nasty, but in a bigger picture, the focus shifts to what someone else is doing, rather than focusing on what I am doing and the decisions I am making. I’ve found it easier to focus on building, and I win more as a consequence. That’s been my experience.

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      45. Don't write your Congressman Says:

        We need to convince Congress to STOP immigration and reverse the third world preference law in the 1965 immigration act.

        We need to convince ZOG to stop immigration?

        OMFG! The naivete!

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      46. ein Says:

        13colonies says, “I disagree.”
        Disagree with WHAT? Disagree with WHOM?
        Suddenly, I don’t understand him either.

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      47. ein Says:

        Regarding negativity: Some years ago I heard the historian John Toland (now dead) being interviewed on the radio. He was an authority on the Hitler/Nazi era. When asked about Hitler’s notorious “obsession” with Jews and his famous “rants” (as we’ve been endlessly told) against them, he emphatically said that this was not at all true. The fact is that, Hitler, a master at understanding public psychology, realized that this type of negativity would only put off many people and would be counter-poroductive. Also, many had no grasp of the Jewish problem. Thus, in his speeches he downplayed the subject of Jews, rather raving and ranting about them. This of course is not the Hollywood image we’ve been given, but it is the historical reality that we’re not supposed to know.

        As various posters above have said, negativity is a turn-off; a positive approach sells.

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      48. 13colonies Says:

        I disagree with Hoosier’s statement: “It’s much easier to focus on something positive, like building, that to focus on something negative, like destroying.”

        We live in a very negative society, and most ppl find it easier to complain than to compliment. How many times did we all hear the word “no” before the age of 5, rather than “yes,” or words of praise? It’s something to think about.

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      49. Sgt. Skull Says:

        The only way to prove GL Rockwell was Jewish is to examine the genealogy. His parents surnames and occupation as comedians doesn’t prove much. If (and that’s a big If) he was Jewish, then he was sincere in his pro-white convictions.

        William Pierce’s writings and broadcasts are without equal. He was in no way out of touch with the common white person and in fact I was amazed at his perspicacity of issues affecting ordinary white people and his prognostications in political trends. He was never trying to attract the masses and said so on many occasions. He wanted high quality people, thinking men and women instead of joe six pack and sally soccer moms. He never compromised nor watered down his message so it would have broader appeal.

        Revilo P. Oliver did not have a favorable opinion of Willis Carto and felt he was self serving and double crossing. Willis may be doing some good for the movement but he always seems to be flush with cash which makes me wonder who is underwriting AFP? Is it the millions he allegedly stole from IHR? AFP, like its predecessor “The Spotlight”, is a very high quality and accurate newspaper.

        IHR seems to be comprised of very honest folks. Their books, tapes and other merchandise are sold at almost fire sale prices, so they aren’t fleecing people.

        I think Tom Metzger is just trying to tell white people that if they weren’t so weak that Jews wouldn’t appear like supermen. He offers sound advice in dealing with the police and how a racial revolutionary should conduct his or herself.

        I’ve always suspected that Michael Hoffman is jewish or at least half jewish. When asked by radio host Paul Grant if he was jewish, Hoffman responded, “what difference does it make?”. He used to be very pro-white and published some outstanding books like “They were white and They were slaves” and related articles demolishing multicult sacred cows. Anti-white atrocities like the Knoxville horror no longer seem to attract his attention. His latest work centers mostly around defending Islam.

        Birdman let it be known that me must embrace Jewish supporters of white nationalism. Could he be Jewish himself? To be fair, he does appear sincere in his pro-white, anti-multicult sentiment.

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      50. Voir Dire Says:

        I know little of “the Birdman” other than that a cyberspace friend has occassionally sent me some excellent links from his website, have yet to read any of his books, and know he is another welcome voice in this ongoing effort to awaken white consciousness and educate others as to this Jewish menace in our midst. I likewise know we have NOTHING to gain by disparaging other patriots like Jeff Rense (for all his warts/flaws like everyone else) who provides an invaluable forum/home/website for some of the best, uncompensated writers in addressing this Zionist cancer in a perhaps short-lived restoration of our freedom of speech. How much better might we fare if our time and energy were marshalled and directed at defeating their relentless “hate crimes” and gun control endeavors, our self-aggrandizing, white slave captives/traitors infesting our federal and state plutocracies, or spreading the word about Article V of our Constitution which may be the key to overthrowing this Jewish-engineered tyranny?

        “Michael Hoffman II: Hoffman is apparently a Jew by birth, but has converted to Christianity. He has written several books, at least one of which — They Were White and They Were Slaves — is excellent. He has attacked Jews in various ways, but his interest in this regard seems to be in the Talmud, whose relevance to Jewish abuse of gentiles in the present day is dubious at best. ”

        I am still trying to ascertain if Hoffman is indeed Jewish by birth (and yes, I understand having “man” in one’s surname is a red flag) owing to the following quotes in his exchange with Michael Stein from his published “The Internet Debates.” Anyone not yet fortunate enough to encounter the Almighty Hoffman and his thorough floor-dusting of the three Jewish “scholars” offered up for sacrifice at Hoffman’s altar of truth, his whittled-down, excerpted crown jewels are NOT to be missed and well worth the 6 or 7 dollar price tag for his booklet (http://revisionisthistory.org/). Here are the quotes:

        “To answer your question, I’m not a Jew. But then again, neither are you. You’re a Khazar, an Ashkenazi, one of the chosen people from the Caucasus, not the Levant. Your identity is as much of a hoax as Spielberg’s movie and therein hangs a tale.

        Not only am I not a Jew. I am not an Edomite of any kind, Khazar, Ashkkenazi or Yehudi. I am however a connoisseur of the art of jew-jitsu, something you and the other hoaxers will be learning to your sorrow, as you cross swords with me in the future.”

        I have to add that Hoffman’s range of interests far exceeds just the Talmud in ferreting out (and oftentimes correcting perceived) historical truths, and that Hoffman’s tenacious, painstaking efforts towards translating, preserving and disseminating the Talmud’s despicable teachings is imperative in understanding the Jewish mind, their racial supremacist beliefs, and their seething hatred for Gentiles. Far be it from irrelevant, it may be the ONLY thing that makes sense in trying to understand from whence this Jewish wickendness emanates and the parasitism so endemic to their culture.

        Financially help our patriots, folks. Thanks to the odious Jews who have bankrolled our destruction through the creation of the Creature through Jekyl Is., whites have no such advantage.

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      51. shabbos s. shabazz Says:

        “. . .and yes, I understand having “man” in one’s surname is a red flag. . .”

        You mean like “Birdman”?

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      52. John "Birdman" Bryant Says:

        Today, 29 April, Texe Marrs, well-known Movement personality and curator of the Power of Prophecy website, wrote me the following letter regarding the post that some unauthorized person made in his name on this thread. I felt it would be appropriate to post. -Birdman

        Dear John:

        Someone was kind enough to send me your extensive analysis of Movement personalities. I found it keenly interesting. You, in fact, seem to be a rather interesting man, imbued with courage, and not afraid of the enemies of truth.

        I was one of the personalities you analyzed. However, let me assure you, I never have been on the “VNN Forum.” Actually, I never go on any chat pages. And I certainly never called you by the horrible name “Turdman.” While I do not claim to be a saint, I can say that even retyping that word buggers me. I have never used this term in my entire life. The same goes for “kikesses.” I stopped using profanity and such as a teenager and try to use language that my wife, Wanda, a sweet and gentle Christian lady of the old school, appreciates.Nor am I of the opinion you should be thrown in an oven. My great preference is that no one go to such places, though I suspect the Rothschilds, Bushes, Clintons, McCain, and a whole passel of murderous neo-con Zionist thugs will end up in a place called hell that, the Bible says, is like a burning oven.

        Apparently, without either my approval or knowledge someone is using my name on chat forums, and they certainly are no friend of either me, you, or the Movement. I would appreciate your letting others know about this so they won’t be taken unawares by the little games our enemies sometimes play in vain attempts to poison the atmosphere.

        Now as to what I really think of you. First, I appreciate a straight-forward man like the Birdman whose character is composed of iron and not wood. Second, I look forward to reading your website and your writings to see where we may have common thoughts and concerns. I am sure we will agree on many, many things. Finally, you are welcome to stop by my offices at any time and have a pleasant and productive visit. I suspect that if you did, we would end up friends. Hopefully, we already are.

        All God’s Best,

        Texe Marrs
        Power of Prophecy Ministries (powerofprophecy.com)

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      53. apollonian Says:

        Birdman Gets Boost Fm Texe
        (Apollonian, 29 Apr 08)

        Hey Texe, I always expect there are phonies behind the names posted on blogs on VNN–golly, I wonder why?

        But I read at least one of Texe’s books, and I liked it for the references–I wish I could read more. Texe is a great writer, with much more real scholarship, and more effective than birdman who is mighty at something, but I’m not sure exactly what. Birdman is good observer/journalistic sometimes.

        CONCLUSION: Birdman is entertaining and has much breadth–but too little depth. Honest elections and death to the Fed. Apollonian

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      54. tuisto Says:

        “And I certainly never called you by the horrible name “Turdman.” While I do not claim to be a saint, I can say that even retyping that word buggers me. I have never used this term in my entire life. The same goes for “kikesses.” I stopped using profanity and such as a teenager and try to use language that my wife, Wanda, a sweet and gentle Christian lady of the old school, appreciates.Nor am I of the opinion you should be thrown in an oven. My great preference is that no one go to such places, though I suspect the Rothschilds, Bushes, Clintons, McCain, and a whole passel of murderous neo-con Zionist thugs will end up in a place called hell that, the Bible says, is like a burning oven.”

        Imagine you call someone on the phone and his name is Birdman.
        By accident you dial the wrong number and the person answering
        says : “Turdman”. Who would know for sure? Sounds the same on the phone at least.
        What’s the boring Evangelical’s name again? Texe Marrs?
        You have to make names like that up, if you asked me.
        Mars is agressiv enough with one r. Was Texe (another strange [ks] masculinity pretending sound, xanthippesque in a way)
        absorbed in his gentile Xinsanity and even highlighted by his “sweet&gentle” X-tian wife, seduced into compensating the X-tian weaknes by adding another “R” to the naturally martial mars?

        The admittedly brilliant Birdman (which definitely sound as jewish as Hofman I, II or III) would be far more famous by now, had he decided to swim in dreary X-tian waters instead of helping many of us to look at life from a higher than human perspective.

        I would have liked him to ad some comment of his own to lighten up the sugarloaded Marrs-bar elogy a bit.

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