28 August, 2008
Why We Write
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94 Responses to “Why We Write”
28 August, 2008 at 11:31 pm
“But what I take away from this is that the greatest danger to the
cultural establishment is the existence of intelligent, well-written,
well-documented, and fundamentally honest articles arguing for the importance of white identity and white interests. And the same goes for discussions of the interests and influence of other groups. The point is that our message must be conveyed with intelligence and ruthless criticism of the intellectual shoddiness of our opponents’ theories and the pervasiveness of double standards when it comes to ethnocentrism.”
KMD
28 August, 2008 at 11:52 pm
KMD says in his article:
“The Occidental Quarterly represents a unique vision on the right. It is
the only outlet for article-length, high-quality publications aimed at an
educated readership. Any serious history of the changes in the United
States must acknowledge the importance of top-down changes. It’s
not going to come from skinheads and disaffected working class people.”
Don’t be so sure, Kevin. We are not living in ordinary times.
29 August, 2008 at 12:58 am
I’m convinced that the *only* way things are going to change is from the *bottom* up. Books and nationalist political parties may slow down the process of decay, but they’re not going to stop it, much less reverse it. We’re rapidly headed towards a time when being able and willing to kick someone’s teeth in will be far more valuable than a Ph.D. Leave it to eggheads like MacDonald to not have figured that out yet.
29 August, 2008 at 1:48 am
Dr. Kevin Macdonald is the real deal, a white intellectual who puts his money where his mouth is. This movement is filled with lots of questionable people with debatable ethics, morals and motivations, but Kevin is a college professor willing to put his livelihood on the line for the sake of Truth. He deserves our full support. I learned more from just one of his books than I did in college. Kevin supplies the logic and rationale for thinking people to act upon their beliefs. Before Kevins books came out, we were forced to rely on questionable sources of information such as, The Protocols of Zion and tabloids like The Truth at Last. Some of the Satanic bloodlines were a bit too much for rational thinking white men, such as myself. Thanks to Kevin, we can now base our actions on historical facts which have been carefully assembled by him. He has, almost singlehandedly, bought us out of the dark ages into the modern world. He is being viciously attacked by the SPLC because he hits the raw nerve of truth and as everyone on this forum knows, the truth is anti-semitic.
29 August, 2008 at 6:36 am
Last night before a raucously bleating 84,000 strong herd of genetic detritus and outright traitors, ‘B. Diddy’ Obama accepted the Democratic nomination for President of these New & Improved United States.
Word.
Somewhere George Washington is throwing up.
I’m a regular White guy. The people I interact with on a daily basis are regular White people.
Middle-America. Generate tax revenue, consume, conform and do not ask questions.
I can’t think of a single thing that would make these people think “racially” short of a month of 24-hour CNN coverage of organized gangs of non-Whites literally going door- to-door in the ‘burbs murdering Whites.
And I’m not really convinced that would do it for a lot of them.
Much of the work of Dr. MacDonald is brilliant, as is that of Dr. Pierce and Dr. Duke.
The problem is nobody, and I mean NOBODY is listening.
Like Egypt, Greece, Rome, France & England before us, we North American Whites are living in the twilight’s last gleaming of the American Empire.
We have a front-row seat at the Colosseum as Lady Liberty does the electric-slide all the way to New Brazil.
The coming new Dark Ages will be dark indeed.
29 August, 2008 at 7:42 am
I will have to agree with the posters here. We are not living in a time where rational argument is even considered valid by the majority of the people. Feminized and self satisfied white people only care about what makes them feel good whether it is the prior group moralizing to reduce their self induced guilt or for the latter group, toys and transient pleasures. In addition we have hordes of non whites in this country who have the allies of the liberals, the jews, many young women and feminists. The homosexuals are in this group as well.
This represents, at the very least, about 120 million entities in the U.S. alone who are working feverishly to destroy the ‘evil’ of the white men and his culture. Reasonable words and readings from books of law do not mean anything to these hordes. They may be incapable of understanding, but mainly do not care. They want what they want, white man be damned. We need to want what we want and take back everything we ever lost hold on, Christian morality be damned.
This change won’t come from the upper class. With their millions and billions they cannot lift a finger to help the foundation of their wealth: white ingenuity and the people from which it comes. The change will come violently, when the economic rug is pulled out from under the western masses, and those of us who have had our hands tied for so long finally are set free in a land without government interference.
29 August, 2008 at 10:14 am
“being able and willing to kick someone’s teeth in will be far more valuable than a Ph.D. Leave it to eggheads like MacDonald to not have figured that out yet.”
I think MacDonald has figured it out EXTERMELY well.
He’s under attack by the SPLC and anyone attacking him is helping them. What have your skinhead types accomplished SO FAR?
I’m with zoomcopter AND MacDonald.
29 August, 2008 at 12:44 pm
More and more as time goes by, I’m of the opinion that nothing is going to change until jews and niggers are ass kicked in the streets back to where they belong–either dead or far away from White America, and dumb Whites are bitch slapped until they fucking WAKE UP.
Words are good, no doubt, but I believe it’s going to be the skinheads and those willing to join them, that finally save America, if it can even be saved.
This is a WAR like no other, and it ain’t for weenies.
Talking the talk is fine, but walking the walk is what’s going to get the job done.
29 August, 2008 at 1:07 pm
Nobody says it’s an either/or situation. Let the eggheads & their words make their own invaluable contribution, and let the others do what they know how to do. No conflict here.
29 August, 2008 at 1:16 pm
It looks like Professor MacDonald is getting a lot more radical these days. The Jews have made him mean. I agree that most Whites need to be “bitch slapped” just like Susan says.
When the economy collapses and the goverment goes down, the Jews will all escape to Israel. Forty million feral Negroes rioting will then wake up the remaining Whites.
29 August, 2008 at 1:32 pm
Jews’ greatest fear is spread of information- they are using state power to stop it. Therefore, spread the news.
Jewess Rand was asked- when can you use force against the state? Her answer- when you have censorship, and one party rule. One party is now masquerading as two. . .
29 August, 2008 at 2:32 pm
It should be remembered that politics and media both cost money. Why not spend a few bucks on a worthy cause:
http://www.occidentalpress.com/insurrections.html
Let’s not forget Alex either. I’m sure he could use some postage stamp money. Mailing and printing are not free:
A. Linder
POB 101
Kirksville MO 63501
29 August, 2008 at 2:57 pm
Yeah, please note Stronza, that I said “words are good” and “talking the talk is fine” but in the long run, when this method fails to get the job done, it’s going to be sheer brute force and physical power that ultimately rids us of niggers and jews. Either that, or moving away from these two and leaving them to destroy each other. Either works for me.
But ultimately, there will be a lot of dumb Whites who will either have to be killed too or left behind (if we just move away) because they are just too far gone. They are lost causes already. We see them every day everywhere. I’m done with these types too. F them. If they’re not able to see the truth for what it is, they are of no value to the White race. Leave them to the niggers and jews. No great loss.
It’s been said by many that we don’t need EVERY single White person to have a revolution. We only need enough to get the job done. A few hundred or thousand single minded Whites could easily get the job done in this country.
But more and more I am of the opinion that if we are to save this country, it is going to take nothing less than a total revolution and upheaval of everything normal. But again, it could be accomplished by a very small minority of dedicated Whites.
Yeah, it’s tough talk and this is only the internet after all. But, I’m really trying to put my ass on the line in my real life these days so as not to become a parody of myself.
I did a one woman protest yesterday and I’m going back either alone or with anyone who wishes to join me on 9/ll.
And I just got word that some spic group is sponsoring a ridiculous rally down at the state capitol next week 9/4 on behalf of all fucking things “illegal aliens raped and/or killed by Cobb and Dekalb County sheriff’s deputies”……..bwahahahahahahaha.
So, I plan to be there carrying a sign that says more or less “You all need to be ass kicked back to wherever you came from immediately”. I hope there are other like minded individuals there too, but if not I’ll be alone. I’m sure there will be others on my side though. And, hopefully, a lot of pigs……..haha.
Now is not the time to be shy…….I’ve decided that.
29 August, 2008 at 7:50 pm
I agree that every element should do what it does best and make its own contribution in its own manner. Neither one should disparage or attack the other. It’s like the right hand fighting with the left. Frankly, I can’t imagine Prof. MacDonald out in the street “kicking teeth”. Nor should he. But what he has contributed is of immeasurable value and must not be disparaged. Each in his own way.
29 August, 2008 at 7:52 pm
I see you’re still here, probably in your underwear where you keep your hands.
People without anything better to do, like you, should kill themselves.
29 August, 2008 at 7:52 pm
jh
29 August, 2008 at 7:56 pm
Dude says: I can’t think of a single thing that would make these people think “racially” short of a month of 24-hour CNN coverage of organized gangs of non-Whites literally going door- to-door in the ‘burbs murdering Whites. And I’m not really convinced that would do it for a lot of them.
Much of the work of Dr. MacDonald is brilliant, as is that of Dr. Pierce and Dr. Duke. The problem is nobody, and I mean NOBODY is listening.
We have a front-row seat at the Colosseum.
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Well said! Indeed we do have a front-row seat, and the spectacle promises to get gory.
Yes, even if organized gangs did go to-to-door, spreading murder and mayhem in white areas, the media (other than locally) would either ignore it or put a unique spin on it. It would be portrayed as a freakish instance of “gang activity”, a baffling phenomenon, the composition or motivation of those gangs being left undetailed.
And other than for a clear-sighted few (among the victim class) we would still hear the worn-out mantra: “This had NOTHING to do with race! It could have been done by ANYONE. The fact that they happened to be black (or whatever) was pure coincidence. Anybody who blames this on race is an idiot. ”
How many times have we ALREADY seen and heard this phenomenon spouted by the brainwashed zombies? — even coming from the victims own families! It takes an awful lot of harsh experience, and a long time, to erase the effects of a lifetime of constant brainwashing. People who’ve been conditioned to that line just don’t know how to think any other way.
Heavens, it COULDN’T be due to race! That’s unthinkable. It must be due to sun spots or phases of the moon. Something! But never race. Everybody knows that we’re all the same under the skin. Besides, race doesn’t exist anyway. Such an ignorant notion! Anyone who’s been to school knows that.
29 August, 2008 at 9:34 pm
This Professor MacDonald reminds me of the old-fashioned pipe-smoking, brandy-sipping academic types who used to discuss The Jewish Question with each other in their drawing rooms and university clubs back in the late 1800s. You know, those places that had a tiger skin rug on the floor and mounted animal heads on the panelled walls? All that right-wing, intellectual, elitist, gentlemanly country-club racism will get us nowhere, man. It’s an anachronism. And so is the idea of goose-stepping in formation down the street, wearing armbands, jackboots and singing the Horst Wessel Lied.
We need an Al Qaeda-style revolutionary underground guerrilla resistance. No formal organizational structure, no uniforms, no Hollywood stuff. JUST RACIST ACTION, GODDAMMIT.
29 August, 2008 at 11:08 pm
Zarathustra, the difference between MacDonald and those “old-fashioned…academic types,” is that MacDonald is doing it now, out in the open, when doing such is ruinous to one’s career and in many cases downright dangerous. I don’t see any other academics who know the truth standing up and saying it out loud except MacDonald. Everyone else is keeping various white factions arguing with each other over minor details that don’t mean shite or they’re disparaging MacDonald for being ineffective even as they do nothing but post on the internet under assumed monikers.
30 August, 2008 at 12:48 am
Zarathustra is right. Reading books and intellectual racism is fine and dandy, but if none of the information is put into practice it is just mental masturbation. Yes, this proffessor is puting his career on the line and by all means support him if you like, but don’t pretend that he is the second coming of Jewsus.
Our people need to realize that the old right wing game is not working for the White Race. I hasn’t worked for 60+ years and it is time to move into the phase of insurgency. No more marches, voting, trying to educate the masses… it is time to destroy this system by any means necessary.
30 August, 2008 at 3:42 am
lone wolves and leaderless cells?
30 August, 2008 at 4:19 am
Alex needs to loose the emu on VNN’s front page. Too many agents, and assholes of the wanna be tough guy variety.
30 August, 2008 at 9:10 am
Methinks I smell a very big RAT on this page.
Okay, Old Dutch…..just who ARE you anyway? You’re one of the assholes from the forum, of that there is no doubt.
Hey, get a clue sweetie. This here’s a free Main Page, and we can discuss freely whatever we want.
You, of course, have added nothing of any value, as you probably do on the forum as well.
Steve B…….is that you???……..you old dried up, alcoholic, teeny bopper screwing, piece of crap.
Go back to your forum, posting porn pics and trying really hard to be funny.
Whatsamatta sweetie…….little girls not interested in ole Stevie anymore?????
Now……bugger off and let the big boys and girls discuss important topics.
Because serious White activism is something you”ll never get involved in. You’re a behind the scenes kinda guy all the way.
Wanna be tough guy variety? I’ll stack up what I’ve done in the name of White people any day over what you’ve done, out where it counts…….where people can see it. Not putting up a little dough to pay for some “literature”.
30 August, 2008 at 9:19 am
Sorry……..back to serious talk. Had to get that outta my system. I suspect that is Steve B lurking here. He made some comments on the forum about people ‘tarded posting on the Main Page. I’m the only one I know who fits that description.
Steve B just needs his clock cleaned every now and then by a grown woman. Actually, Steve B needs a lot of things.
Anyway……….lone wolves and leaderless cells would be a great idea. Lone wolves can do a lot toward stirring the pot and that way no one has to worry about being snitched on by a fellow rat who gets caught doing something not quite bright.
I think the way things are going to ever get done in the White movement in small cells throughout the country. Just plan small acts of defiance, do them, and go back to living normal. Just be sure you can fully trust your compatriot.
There are so many things one can do that are not illegal. Putting signs on light posts on major streets with short to the point slogans and facts. Throwing fliers in neighborhoods is another good idea. Holding a small protest somewhere with just a few people to highlight some issue.
Of course, there are other activities that small leaderless cells and lone wolves can do, but I’ll leave that to your imagination.
30 August, 2008 at 1:51 pm
Susan, you are great! Well said. I think that Olde_Dutch fellow is a bit lame myself, he doesn’t seem to contribute very much, at least nothing constructive…………………………
Mr. Jim Byrne, you complain about people posting here under assumed names. I hope you have enough sense not to use your REAL name? Perhaps you don’t.
In any case, there is way too much “clubbiness” on these forums. It’s always the same handful of people monopolizing the conversation and resenting anyone new trying to give his two cents.
As stated above, there are lots of things a lone wolf can do to shake things up, both big and small. Use all those postage-free envelopes you get in the mail to send out anonymous, pro-White messsages. Call up your local right-wing, politically-correct radio talk-show host and gently let him have it over the air. Write articulate, cogent letters to the editor of your local Jewspaper. Just let them know that not everyone out there is racially brain dead.
30 August, 2008 at 5:59 pm
I hate to tell you “tards”, but, Dr. MacDonald is promoting his essay “Psychology and White Ethnocentrism” which is about turning mass “White” cultural movements into “White” political action on a grand scale. It could be you are just too slow, or too challenged to do the research & reading. Or it could be, you want to lead the discussion down a “tardish” blind alley.
The essay “Psychology and White Ethnocentrism” is contained in MacDonald’s collection of essays’ “Cultural Insurrections”.
http://www.occidentalpress.com/insurrections.html
Has anyone here read the essay “Psychology and White Ethnocentrism”? Alex?
30 August, 2008 at 7:25 pm
Fine. I’ll go read the essay by MacDonald.
By the way, you can make a point without the useless personal insults. Your “moldy cunt” in your name gave you away. And your mention of ‘tards. That’s how I knew you must be someone from the Forum. And one of my arch foes……haha
31 August, 2008 at 12:09 am
Zarathustra writes: “This Professor MacDonald reminds me of the old-fashioned pipe-smoking, brandy-sipping academic types who used to discuss The Jewish Question with each other in their drawing rooms and university clubs back in the late 1800s. You know, those places that had a tiger skin rug on the floor and mounted animal heads on the panelled walls? All that right-wing, intellectual, elitist, gentlemanly country-club racism will get us nowhere, man. It’s an anachronism. And so is the idea of goose-stepping in formation down the street, wearing armbands, jackboots and singing the Horst Wessel Lied.
“We need an Al Qaeda-style revolutionary underground guerrilla resistance. No formal organizational structure, no uniforms, no Hollywood stuff. JUST RACIST ACTION, GODDAMMIT.”
Amen to the above.
And to support the resistance we need to create small community-sustaining industries, practice alternative economics, and engage in implicitly White sociopolitical activities.
31 August, 2008 at 2:00 am
MacDonald won’t even come on as a guest on Peter Schaenk’s show because he is afraid to be seen as a racist. He will never rub elbows with anyone who adopts an aggressive take action position. White nerds like MacDonald are terrified of being associated with physical violence, he wouldn’t be caught in the same room with Alex Linder so don’t kid yourself. I think the MacDonald cult is about to burst as he is finally shown for what he truly is, a timid egghead.
31 August, 2008 at 2:02 am
Dutch, MacDonald will take no part in that action unless the “leader” standing beside him talks really mild and has a P.H.D.
31 August, 2008 at 2:05 am
Byrne, MacDonald is so “out loud” that he won’t even conduct an interview with the Voice of Reason Radio Network?
31 August, 2008 at 9:11 am
I’m not saying that all of these tacts don’t have a place in the fight against the destruction of the White race by its enemies. They certainly do. You can’t make people do things they just aren’t inclined to do. My father was a college professor and as such would never have engaged in anything violent. But he could talk reasonably and engage in logical coherent calm discussion about anything.
Everyone doesn’t feel comfortable doing protests. I did them for years for animal related issues, so I feel comfortable protesting in public.
But, I just think that now is the time to begin doing more direct types of action. If not now,when? If not us, who? How much longer are we going to stand by and allow our country to be destroyed without so much as lifting a pinkie???
I intend to get a lot more active locally about a lot of issues in my particular county and area, which is Atlanta. I stood and held signs the other day to support the county Superintendent who made an innocuous remark and now the NAACP is after him for an apology. They held a small rally so I went the next day and stood by myself and got some attention and support. I just don’t happen to mind doing it alone. Of course, together with others is better, but it isn’t always possible.
I’m going down to the state capitol this Thursday for a rally being held by proponents of illegal immigration. They are holding a rally, unbelievably, about the illegal and legal hispanic victims of police rape and murder in our city and area. I really don’t know what these idiots are thinking. Of course, they are inviting everyone, but the whole thing is preposterous.
There’s a local group, the Dustin Inman Society, that fights illegal immigration very effectively here in Georgia, and they will probably be there as well. I plan to be there holding some very RUDE signs for our spic friends.
But we need to get serious about fighting this war. It’s not easy to come out publicly, especially at first, but once it’s done, people will see that it’s not the end of the world, and hopefully will feel more comfortable as time goes on to do more actions. You have to start somewhere folks.
If we don’t begin now, we might as well just forget our country and our race. Because soon it will be too late. It may be too little too late now.
But as I’ve said before, there’s something noble to be said about going down with all flags flying…….
31 August, 2008 at 9:14 am
Whoops….the last sentence of my last post should read “….there’s something noble about going down with all flags flying”. Too many words in there.
31 August, 2008 at 10:39 am
“….he wouldn’t be caught in the same room with Alex Linder….”
Linder interviewed him in ‘Line In The Sand’.
31 August, 2008 at 10:46 am
MacDonald is effective due to precise statements, full documentation, choosing his battles, and academic tenure. Tenure, by the way, doesn’t guarantee job security. He’s still taking a huge risk. Unlike auto shop mechanics, MacDonald’s field is open to “industry-wide” blacklisting. Once terminated, he’s finished in academia or secondary education. Why should MacDonald give a shit about what drunks, druggies, paranoid-schizophrenics, Vampirella, Reich-costumed clowns, and felons think about him? Why should he interview with an outfit which has tolerated and positively spotlighted these people in the past? VNN’s post-forum history would take years to overcome even if the forum permanently closed today. Some of you may not like to hear (read) this, but that’s the way it is.
31 August, 2008 at 12:50 pm
Blightbling, you said it. But the little mistake KM made was to reject the contributions of those whose style is the opposite of his. You can be contemptuous of those unlike yourself, but war is war and we have to realize that wars are fought on all fronts, not just one. The shabby types you catalog in your post, above, are making it easier, not more difficult, for the rest of us. Or at least that’s how I see it.
Also, I would like to point out that KM was on The Political Cesspool radio show, and they are getting edgier all the time.
31 August, 2008 at 1:22 pm
Byron Jost interviewed MacDonald in “Line In the Sand”, not Alex Linder
31 August, 2008 at 1:25 pm
Political Cesspool is so “edgy” they don’t condemn “all Jews” and they love Hebrew Paul Gottfried. About 50% of the time Edwards trembles at the mere mention of the word “Jew”, you can hear it in his voice.
31 August, 2008 at 1:48 pm
Okay, Stu. I stand corrected. But they are getting bolder as time goes by. Today (Aug. 31) they are having Roger Devlin, whose writings I have seen in Occidental Quarterly. It’s progress (it is, isn’t it…) Edwards is just a young feller, let’s give him time.
31 August, 2008 at 1:50 pm
Stronza writes: “the little mistake KM made was to reject the contributions of those whose style is the opposite of his.”
Sometimes that, too, is necessary. For example, think about Ron Paul’s disassociation from “White supremacists” despite the help many gave him in the beginning. The fact that Ron Paul’s Internet “campaign” failed miserably has no bearing on the fact that disassociation from “White supremacy” was the politically expedient thing for him to do in the mid-to-latter stages of his campaign. WNs need to understand this else they are doomed to continue our 50-60 year track record of failure. The environment, logistics, means, and standards by which our radicalism is judged is in no way comparable to that of jewish radicals back in the Sixties ‘n Seventies except on a very superficial level. Kike college professors in the Sixties were in no way threatened with permanent blacklisting to anything close to the same degree that men like MacDonald are threatened today. MacDonald serves us fine by staying right where he is and doing exactly what he’s doing now. WNs need to get off his ass and start using their brains about what it is we are up against and how to deal with it.
31 August, 2008 at 2:14 pm
The idea that kikes overturned the system in the Sixties is a myth. The fact is by that time big kikes ‘owned’ the very system the kike radicals railed against. Thus the attention-gaining kike radicalism from that period was nothing more than a cleanup operation. That is why outspoken conservative professors of gentile origin were so easily eliminated from academia. That is why Bill Buckley got on his knees to suck jewish cock.
Today, our people don’t ‘own’ the system we’re railing against. Unlike Sixties jews, we are genuine radicals.
31 August, 2008 at 2:54 pm
The war, and the protests, came from same source.
They take both sides of all issues. As Lenin said- “Opposition? We are the opposition.”
31 August, 2008 at 3:03 pm
I agree with Blight, Alex Linder makes a mistake always bringing up the 60′s as a major turning point. Yes the immigration rules were loosened to bring in more minorities but the Jewish power structure had taken control over America two decades earlier.
By 1940 America was Jew controlled and in the election of 1940 there was no choice, both candidates were globalists (Roosevelt/Wilkie). The Supreme court was already packed with liberals who would guarantee the end of segregation in the south within 10-15 years.
31 August, 2008 at 3:03 pm
The path to victory must of necessity be a multi-track one. All WN can make a valuable contribution whether they are academics, housewives or valiant street fighters. The important point is to do SOMETHING.
Most of us are to some extent Lone Wolves, and have done the zero risk activities such as leafleting / stickering and posting WN literature in freepost envelopes. We now need to move onto the next level. Keep ‘thor’s hammer’ oiled and locked away for the time being!
This suggestion could be illegal so I’m not saying anyone should do this, heaven forbid! But how about building small mobile FM transmitters to broadcast on ‘appropriate frequencies’ 2 minute jingles with a WN message. I’m sure our people are skilled enough to try a similar strategy wth television.
31 August, 2008 at 5:18 pm
We could actually learn something from Republican Party tactics, and that is NEVER to speak disparagingly against another WN. We are all in this together, and should act like brothers and sisters united against our common foe, the jew.
Klan, Skinhead, Christian Identity, Ph.D. or National Socialist, lone wolf…what does it matter so long as we get the job done?
31 August, 2008 at 5:58 pm
If I were to pick a pivotal year—it would be 1964! In 1940 immigration was almost zero, segregation was “the” law in much of the country & practiced in the rest, miscegenation was illegal most palces, and homosexuals were in the closet. I could go on and on…FDR was our last White President!
31 August, 2008 at 11:03 pm
There are numerous excellent comments here, so I will simply draw attention to a few that deserve, well, a bit more attention.
Campbell Crawford Clan hits the mark dead on, when he notes that “we” are all too willing to “speak disparagingly against another WN…”
God only knows, a lot of criticism is well earned, and I totally support constructive criticism, in all forms, at all times.
I can speak to this as someone who defended Linder during Porngate (in the long distant past), Bill White (at all times), and Kevin Alfred Strom (in the very recent past).
Five minutes exposure to the old VNN Forum would guarantee the casual onloooker sees us as the people you would not want to be in a room with, much less work with in the formation of a new nation.
It is to VNN’s credit that here, on the blog, we can constructively analyze our various positions, and develop some ideas for some forward motion, no matter how small it may seem.
That having been said, the “BBQ/Budweiser/taking grandad’s squirrel rifle to ‘take America back’ in a 68 Plymouth Duster” crowd do not belong in the same room with Dr. MacDonald, who is surrounded by the goddamn Jews at all points, and must contend with the demonic bastards on a daily basis.
I have yet to see the skinheads – hey! remember THEM? – accomplish anything constructive.
So much for “getting the job done.”
Elsewhere, full marks to Bill White for his amazing and tireless activities on behalf of our RACE in the National Socialist framework.
In reply to those who look to the American “turning point,” some thoughts:
One, the American Revolution of 1933 laid the foundation for the removal of America as a Constitutional Republic, and replacing it with an Administrative Government. When the Jew Brandeis made it to the Supreme Court, he said “The Constitution means what WE say it means.” Most thought when he used the term “WE,” he was referring to the Supremes.
We now see he was talking about the Jews, and their control of the power of the Judicial branch to make policy that would not be viable if presented by the Executive and Legislative branches.
Two, the Cultural Revolution that developed in the Sixties had the foundation laid for it years before, in the (demonic Jew-controlled) Mainstream Media.
The widespread adoption of the most powerful social control system ever developed – mass-produced, affordable, color television, starting in 1964 – helped lay the foundation for the greater legitimation of what came to be the Counter-Culture, which tool full flower in 1968.
Note the tool the Counter-Culture had – a TWO wars going, simultaneously – Viet-Nam, and Poverty – without raising taxes to pay for them.
Negative unemployment allowed the hippies – and the Black Nationalists – to grow quickly, and to great effect.
Three, THAT led to the Children of the Sixties becoming the Parents of the Eighties, and the dominant force in American culture and politics today. An Obama Presidency? Look in the eyes of the people in the stadium during his speech. “True Believers,” to a one, who would just as soon turn and rend us as say “Good Morning!”
And, they got the Ideas from – television, and the mass indoctrination system known as public education.
So, Linder is right.
We SHALL Prevail.
New America
An Idea Whose Time Is HERE!
1 September, 2008 at 12:03 am
Actually, it was not the Sixties when the Jews took over our society. Or even the Forties. It was more like 1899-1913. That’s when some Austrian Jews purchased a relatively obscure newspaper called the New York Times and turned it into a major organ of Jew propaganda. That’s also the era when the Jewish-controlled Federal Reserve was forcibly established, along with the Jew-instigated Federal Income Tax. The NAACP and ADL, two major organizations promoting Jew supremicism, were also founded at that time. And of course, the Jews got us into WWI in order to make the world safe for Bolshevism and Zionism. It’s even been rumored that Woodrow Wilson was a goyische hebe whose real name was Wolfson.
The Jew Revolution has been a gradual top-down process. First they infiltrated Congress, the banking industry, the mass media and the White House. Now their influence has trickled all the way down to the level of local police departments and neighborhood elementary schools. I’d say it’s time to make a principled last stand against this hostile alien encroachment.
1 September, 2008 at 4:01 am
Susan, if you are in Atlanta, you should get in touch with The Occidental Press: the people who publish THE OCCIDENTAL QUARTERLY and Kevin MacDonald’s recent collection, CULTURAL INSURRECTIONS: http://www.theoccidentalquarterly.com
1 September, 2008 at 7:42 am
Well, we could sit here and discuss or argue til the cows come home about what EXACTLY was the begin date and time for all of the shit we are experiencing now. And it could be argued ostensibly that it was a hundred years ago or sixty years ago, and nothing would change the fact that things have changed. So, let’s just agree to disagree and MOVE FORWARD, shall we fellas?
It always takes a while after an event occurs for the results to begin to become evident. Brown vs. Bd. of Ed occurred in ’54, but it wasn’t until 1966 where I lived that integration ACTUALLY OCCURRED.
Up until 1966, niggers stayed where they lived and didn’t bother us. The schools were desegregated in Richmond and Chapel Hill in 1966-1967, so that’s when the shit hit the fan for me personally.
Okay, here’s my take on why it’s so important RIGHT NOW for Whites to begin to take to the streets and make our opinions known.
Number ONE because we’ve just let so much time elapse already from the time our society began to deteriorate and up until now when we are literally on the brink of having our entire society destroyed from within.
And, might I add here for those who think they want to vote for McCain against Obongo, think about this: McCain is ready to sign a massive amnesty bill any time one is presented to him. Once that’s done folks, it’s ALL OVER FOR THIS COUNTRY. ONCE TWENTY TO FORTY MILLION ILLEGAL SPICS ARE GIVEN A FREE TICKET TO BE HERE, IT’S ALL SHE WROTE FOR AMERICA.
I AM NOT VOTING IN THIS ELECTION BECAUSE I CANNOT IN ALL GOOD CONSCIENCE VOTE FOR A WHITE MAN WHO IS READY TO DESTROY THIS COUNTRY BY FLOODING IT WILL ILLEGAL SPICS.
I will go stand and hold some kind of sign on election day at the voting poll near me that speaks to McCain signing an amnesty bill. My sign will probably also say something about Obongo being unfit to hold the Presidency as well–in every capacity.
BUT, getting back to why it’s time to take to the streets…………
Number TWO: I think White people are just waiting for strong Whites to come along and lead them. I think if enough Whites are willing to stand up in public, showing their faces, pulling no punches, and telling it like it is, that enough Whites will follow behind them. We don’t need every White person, but we do need more than we’ve got now.
That’s why I’m standing up in public now, showing my face,holding signs that tell how I feel, and what I support. At first, White people are going to ignore us, to criticize us, because they’re so bullied and beaten down. But, soon, they’ll come around, and will join us in our fight. But they have to see someone else do it first.
But, that’s why we have to keep at this fight. We can’t let the initial phase stop us. It will get better if we just keep at it.
Number Three: What is our other choice? To do nothing? That is not an option for me. I can’t speak for you. To do nothing is to admit defeat, to say we’re too stupid, too bullied, too afraid, to stand up for what’s right. That is not an option for me.
For anyone in the Atlanta area, here is my email address so you can get in touch with me if you are interested in joining me at local protests: rescuerk9@gmail.com. Or if you just wanna talk or know what kinds of things you can do.
Please note, however, that I’m not going to discuss or tell you to do illegal activities. I will only discuss legal activities with someone.
And for those who want to be amongst like minded White people, here are two other really good websites to go to: White Pride Network chat room and 1488folks.com. 1488folks is a MySpace website for Whites, and it is not run like VNN forum. There is no flaming, no insulting, no shit stirring at all. Any sign of that, and you are outta there pronto. And the people there are some of the nicest, most dedicated I’ve met anywhere.
VNN forum is mainly made up of blowhards who will never do anything in public, with a few good Whites thrown in for good measure. Linder ignored the Forum for too long, and allowed it to be ruined by idiots such as Steve B. He is the one who is probably masquerading as Old Dutch out here, but it could be somebody else from the Forum. It IS someone from the Forum, of that there is no doubt. The insults toward me gave him away.
The time for talk only is just about done, and the time for action is upon us. We can either pick up the mantel or we can just shrug our shoulders and go on business as usual. It’s our choice folks.
1 September, 2008 at 12:57 pm
Unlike social Marxism, genuine nationalism within the present system is a permanent career-ending move. That is why our public demonstrations are comprised of the aged and unemployable. Going public without some form of legal and economic protection doesn’t require guts. It requires stupidity or total disregard for the welfare of one’s family. “My name is C*** M******, what’s yours?” asks the ‘brave, dedicated nationalist’ and recipient of government checks or private donations. “I chose to do this!” claims this man who is permanently blacklisted within his industry for having indiscreetly run his mouth about jews and subsequently fired or forced to quit work. “The White Race comes before my family!” shouts the faux revolutionary who has broken his promise to care for his wife and children, or is incapable of finding/forging a relationship with a woman. “If only we could all come together!” pleads the man who would tolerate costumes, ink, typing hours of inconsequential shit on Internet forums and calling it ‘activism,’ getting photographed by the FBI/SPLC/ADL, carrying signs from behind police lines, voting for Obama, listening to hours upon hours of the late, great Dr. Pierce, and advocates the Turner Diaries as a useful ‘strategic’ plan.
All bullshit.
Unlike the Sixties jews and their useful Gentile idiots, the system is not ours. We cannot effectively infiltrate the system because the jews and their sycophants are watchful. Generous, they are not. Open, they are not. Trusting, they are not. Forgiving, they are not. Europid-Aryan-White, they are not. The loopholes which allowed Professor Kevin MacDonald to publish jew-truth after tenure will be closed. Bank on it! Our Susan, here, is right that something must be done, but sign-carrying ain’t the answer. Demonstrations are for system-dependent and protected people – people who retain a degree of faith in a system that isn’t our own. It is the tactic of foundationally conservative people who call themselves Marxist, left-liberal, liberal, libertarian, conservative, paleo-conservative, green, animal rights, Democrat, Republican, Constitutionalist, and Independent – not White nationalists. It is the tactic of people who retain civil rights as criminals – excluding White nationalists. It is the tactic of people who are the beneficiaries of system-sanctioned organizations – none of which are White nationalist. It is the tactic of people who believe in “Justice for All” – except for all of those goddamned White nationalists. There system has informal ‘rules’ for us and formal rules for all others.
Zarathustra wrote: We need an Al Qaeda-style revolutionary underground guerrilla resistance.
Yes, we do. However, underground resistance requires above-ground economic and political support. How do we acquire this from within the system? The answer to the economic problem is to beg, borrow, steal, buy, or salvage whatever we can from the judaeo-economy and create small, local, legally informal, and semi-independent socioeconomic communities, develop alternate production (industrial) facilities, develop local trade networks, engage in above/below table barter, and engage in below table currency transactions. Except for small “gift-giving” activities, all below table transactions must be kept within one’s immediate group, of course, which is (preferably) comprised of family members and long-term friends (not “movement” acquaintances) for security reasons. The answer to the political question depends on our ability to sell the idea of alternate communities, production, and trade to our neighbors. It also depends upon our willingness and ability to identify local, “implicitly-White” social, educational, and cultural needs, create new organizations/activities where needed, and move into leadership roles of existing, implicitly White organizations. In other words, we cannot afford to socially isolate ourselves from the greater White community. Assuming we are successful at implicitly-White social integration, local political engagement would the next step. In rural areas, stuffing a fork up the asses of local Republican ‘good ole boys’ and agribusinesses could generate quite a bit of appeal – once again, as long as we are (relatively) independent on the economic side and are socially engaged with our White neighbors. Watchwords in establishing the American Al Qaeda’s above-ground operations are “informal, implicit, local, small, family & friends, alternate, quasi-independent, bypass, and network.”
That’s activism.
1 September, 2008 at 6:09 pm
According to the Jews and liberals, only White women should consider getting abortions, for the sake of their careers and for the sake of the environment. However, I believe the only time a White woman should get an abortion is if the fetus is retarded or seriously deformed. Or if she had intercourse with a non-White.
On the bright side, thanks to Peking’s strictly-enforced one child policy, it has been estimated that as many as 300 MILLION CHINKS were prevented from ever being born or conceived. 300 MILLION FEWER CHINKS IN THE WORLD! What’s more, aborted Chink fetuses are considered a delicacy in China, even more so than rats or dogs. So, the Chink appetite for aborted Chink fetuses also keeps a check on the excess Chink population, as does the preference for male Chink offspring. The Wogs in India likewise kill off their female offspring in favor of male dot-heads. Also, as China and India become more yuppie-ized, there will be less inclination among their professional class of females to reproduce.
Jews don’t exactly breed like mice, so we don’t have to worry about being outnumbered by their kind. And the Niggers are dropping like flies thanks to AIDS, diabetes, high blood pressure, sickle-cell, crack cocaine and gang violence.
The only two groups that are likely to dramatically increase in population for the forseeable future are the Mohammedans (mostly Arabs) and the Mestizoes. We should gear our race-survival strategies towards dealing with those two mud-groups.
1 September, 2008 at 10:19 pm
in reply to Blightblingdouche:
My congratulations on writing the sort of Adult analysis that has been all too rare from our side.
I’d like to discuss some of your points, if I may:
you wrote:
in reply:
This is so true, and the phrase “permanent, carer-ending move,” is not at all an exaggeration.
you wrote:
in reply:
All too true.
I like to ask the question raised by VOR’s Peter Schaenk:
“Suppose, just suppose, all of the Jews, the illegals, the blacks, all of them just disappeared tomorrow morning. What would you do then, and why aren’t you doing that NOW?”
THAT is the question most White Nationalists dare not answer. because it points to the painful, Adult realization that where you are is a result of the choices you made, and YOU are responsible for this state of affairs.
I guess most everyone is waiting patiently for Sky God Rockwell, and Sky God Pierce, to return, and do the heavy lifting for them.
Certainly, then, they will all join in the torchlight parade, trying to go the front of the line.
Small children believe in Magic; Adults believe in purposeful Work.
you wrote:
Unlike the Sixties jews and their useful Gentile idiots, the system is not ours. We cannot effectively infiltrate the system because the jews and their sycophants are watchful. Generous, they are not. Open, they are not. Trusting, they are not. Forgiving, they are not. Europid-Aryan-White, they are not. The loopholes which allowed Professor Kevin MacDonald to publish jew-truth after tenure will be closed. Bank on it! Our Susan, here, is right that something must be done, but sign-carrying ain’t the answer.
in reply:
This reminds me of Harold Covington’s Insight, Covington’s Conundrum, which stares:
“The system is designed to PREVENT the very thing we are trying to accomplish. Why, then, do we persist in attempting to work within the system?”
Let me emphasize the key words in Covington’s Conundrum:
The system is designed to PREVENT the very thing we are trying to accomplish.
Brilliant – just damn brilliant.
EVERYTHING the System does is designed to PREVENT us from accomplishing our Goals, and fulfilling our RACIAL duties.
EVERYTHING.
We are not unlike Christians in the (Jew-created-and-controlled) former Soviet Union.
We are barely tolerated, and then, only if we acknowledge fealty, first.
you wrote:
in reply:
We, the one group that can actually make “America” WORK, are the one group in America that can be discriminated against with impunity.
How long do you think “America” can stand without us?
Look at Rhodesia, for one example, and look to Detroit, for another.
Yet, to quote George Carlin, “THEY don’t care about you at all, at all, at all!”
Got that right.
you wrote:
in reply:
I think the better example might be Hezbollah, which is running medical facilities, social services, television and radio stations, and, oh, by the way, is involved in training some young men in another form of “activism.”
The mistake many of us have made is the mistake of the Impotent:
We have allowed people you would not to be in the same room with, people who not only can’t get a job at the gas station, they can barely work the gas pump, to fill our time with their whiskey-powered liquid courage delusions. These idiots talk about taking on the foremost military power in world history, when they spend their time ducking bill collectors, and cracking back on the applejack.
To extend Peter Schaenk’s Question, these people are like barking dogs trying to catch a locomotive.
If they CAUGHT the damn thing, what would they DO with it?
I suspect that a small group of disciplined, determined, and focused White Aryans decided to transform the world around them in an earlier time.
The time might be coming up to develop that sort of focused discipline for ourselves, and use it to build a White nation, damn near from scratch.
We SHALL Prevail.
New America
An Idea Whose Time Is HERE!
1 September, 2008 at 11:02 pm
I’d like to take a minute and clarify some of my remarks in the last post.
Blightblingdouche wrote:
in reply:
Never happen, in the extant social order.
This is the ONE thing the System is designed to neutralize, and destroy – the “organization,” and ANYONE remotely affiliated with it.
Ask Matt Hale.
Go to Steele’s website and hear him describe EXACTLY how little it took to send Hale to a Federal Supermax, forever.
The people who believe that political power comes out of the barrel of a gun, ignore the fact that this power exists as long as the gun is trained on someone.
Or, the other guy gets a gun.
VOR’s Peter Schaenk has wrote and spoken eloquently about how the demons-known-as-Jews took over America, without firing a shot, by controlling the picture you see, and the words you hear.
Speaking of the use of force, what ever happened to “The Order?”
Oh, that’s right…
So, put aside the fantasies of impotent schoolboys, and look at the challenges before us in developing a White NATION, from the ground, up.
If that ground is in Montana, so much the better!
you wrote:
in reply:
See above.
When asked about the legendary French Resistance, Speer laughed.
The IRA has been thoroughly neutralized.
You see a Pattern here, don’t you?
Let’s not make the mistake of these Children.
Let’s think like Adults, with a focus on the world our Posterity will inherit, from what we Create.
Let’s lay the Foundation for a better System.
you wrote:
in reply:
This is good advice.
It’s what the Jews do, by the way.
It works for them…
you wrote:
in reply:
There was a great piece on the old VNN Forum – in the Archives – on using the Jehovah’s Witnesses as an organizational model.
The Witnesses are the most successful religion in America, for a lot of good reasons.
To anticipate your answer, Judaism is not a religion.
But, you knew that already!
you wrote:
in reply:
This worked for Huey Long, a remarkably astute politician who saw himself as the statesman of the dispossessed White underclass.
It will work for us, as well.
you wrote:
in reply:
Replace Al Quaeda – a synthetic organization that is routinely neutralized – with a new version of the Jehovah’s Witnesses, and you might make some headway.
John deNugent is writing a book about a possible future for our selves, and our White children.
Perhaps he has some ideas he would care to share with us!
Just remember a great strength of the Witnesses:
They see themselves as ambassadors from God, and deport themselves accordingly.
That’s a good example for us.
After all, if we fulfill our RACIAL Destiny,…
We SHALL Prevail.
New America
An Idea Whose Time Is HERE!
2 September, 2008 at 2:26 am
Huey P. Long by T Harry Williams 1971
Reads like fiction. If you have a brain please enjoy this missing link of 20th century US politics and his death cleared the way for FDR and the war of White destruction.
Worthy indeed, and this book was a ten year work. Many of the hundreds of sources were not to be revealed till 2004 or 10 if I remember.
2 September, 2008 at 2:28 am
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Huey-Long/T-Harry-Williams/e/9780394747903/
Huey P. Long
If you have never read this your in for a treat!
2 September, 2008 at 2:30 am
Villywood would never ever make a movie/story based on this book/facts of the man.
For sure, Oy Vey !
2 September, 2008 at 8:07 am
To New America: I don’t disagree with most of what you write. I, too, would like to see Whites build our own homeland in America for future generations. However, I can’t do that right now! Right now, I’m just surviving day to day. If anyone would like to pay me, I will gladly work on all kinds of White issues full time. Doubt this is going to happen, though.
So, in the meantime, I do what I can do which is to try to *educate* and *agitate* wherever possible. Which means holding signs! I mean my time here on earth may not be all that much longer….who knows? I just like to feel that I’m doing something to promote the White race.
And one never knows who will be awakened by reading a sign. Maybe our White savior!!! Oh well…….just a thought.
2 September, 2008 at 10:28 am
in (thoughtful) reply to Susan:
Bill White can claim to be the heir to Rockwell, and a lot more.
The rest of us are doing what we can, where can can.
White is trying to form a new Civilization.
You might want to consider joining his ANSWP.
There are levels of membership, you do NOT have to wear the brownshirt/red swastika armband, and you will have the pleasure of working with someone who has intelligent plans for developing the organization(s) we need to move forward.
Everyone else wants good people; White wants to create an organization that will help good people to be better people.
Incidentally, I also recommend getting a copy of Covington’s masterful book, “A Distant Thunder,” – it’s available for download, but paper allows you leisure – and focus on his description of the essential difference between national socialism, and other economic systems.
Covington gives you a mind set, a world view, that is invaluable in allowing you to see WHERE we should be going.
White is building the bridge to get there.
We SHALL Prevail.
New America
An Idea Whose Time Is HERE!
2 September, 2008 at 3:15 pm
The Jehovah’s Witnesses are a more effective organization than Al Qaeda???????????? How many enemy troops have the Witnesses killed or disabled? How many skyscrapers or enemy installations have they destroyed? How many planes have they hijacked or shot down? How many people are filled with terror knowing that there are Witnesses nearby? The Jehovah’s Witnesses are nothing but a fringe Christian church that simply annoy most people or amuse them, nothing more. WTF????????
If you didn’t agree with my Al Qaeda analogy, you could have chosen the Hell’s Angels or the Weather Underground as a more suitable model for White resistance. But the Jehovah’s Witnesses???????? WTF?????????
2 September, 2008 at 5:37 pm
Perhaps he meant Symbionese Liberation Army:
http://www.rickross.com/groups/symbionese.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTsW0tzQqNE&feature=related
2 September, 2008 at 6:07 pm
I wasn’t going to say anything……but when the Jehovahs’ Witnesses come to my neighborhood, I call the pigs on them. Bwahahaha They are annoying as hell, and we are lucky enough to get the all nigger crew up here in my area. Oh joy!!!
I don’t think I’ll be joining anyone just yet, but thank you for the advice New America. John de Nugent is someone I’m keeping my eye on too. He’s doing some interesting things, and he too says he’s building a White community up his way in the Pittsburgh area. That may be an interesting place to move to, depending upon what’s going on in the next few years. But, Montana’s still my dream…..
2 September, 2008 at 7:39 pm
New America writes: “So, put aside the fantasies of impotent schoolboys, and look at the challenges before us in developing a White NATION, from the ground, up. If that ground is in Montana, so much the better!”
When in Rome, this blightblinger does as the Romans do. VNNers use the words “revolutionary guerrilla resistance.” What you’re referring to, I think, is the acquisition of legitimate civil power through electoral means in rural locations throughout the northern half of the continent and implementation of the Founder’s idea of the original state militias in accordance with the Constitution. The long-term goal is secession. If so, then it’s good to see the word getting out – especially to long-time VNNers. No objection to your clarification whatsoever, assuming that is what it was.
Secession – not Revolution. Take the rural, isolate and pull the plug on the urban: The Coming Urban Terror, by John Robb. Read and head, folks. http://www.city-journal.org/html/17_3_urban_terrorism.html
2 September, 2008 at 8:20 pm
in reply to Susan:
Good points, and don’t limit your options. Certainly, subscribing to the ANSWP magazine will provide good content and analysis for you, and might help you as a speaker on behalf of deNugent!
deNugent’s description of the area outside Pittsburgh is accurate, and quite enticing.
You still might want to take a few weeks off in the off-season and take the bus/train/whatever to Montana.
And, I was not saying JOIN the Witnesses. I’m looking for some old pieces on the VNN Archive describing some ideas based on the Witnesses’ organizational models. There’s a LOT in the Witness organization we can learn from.
If you decide to hold up signs, you might want to use the phrase “STOP WHITE GENOCIDE!” on one side, and Bob Witaker’s Mantra – short version – on the other.
The Mantra, and its variations, can be seen at www dot whitakeronline dot org/blog/
Sending some folding money to Linder each and every month – addresses at the top and bottom of the screen – is one of the best forms of activism I know.
We SHALL Prevail.
New America
An Idea Whose Time Is HERE!
2 September, 2008 at 8:26 pm
J.W.’s are enemy aliens and if you knew what they were really up to, you would not be posting anything about them except for a warning.
2 September, 2008 at 8:37 pm
in reply to Zarathustra:
you wrote:
in reply:
The Jehovah’s Witnesses are a fast growing religious community – not just a Church, but a community – that has a lot more success in all areas of human endeavor than some Wordist bunch of failures that are all but removed from the face of the Earth.
A rag tag bunch of losers, they are routinely taken out by intelligently organized tribes (the Taliban, for example), and organizations such as Hezbollah.
People are “filled with terror the Witnesses are nearby.”
They DO hold them in some sort of respect, regardless of how we may mock them.
If they knew what the Witnesses have accomplished, they would be all the more impressed.
“C’mon! Google dat!”
you wrote:
in reply:
“White resistance” that takes the form of supporting the use of armed force against the most powerful military in the history of the world is the height of folly, as still-living members of “The Order” can tell you.
Even hinting of support for it – even not actively denying it – cost Matt Hale his freedom, forever.
So, it is doomed to failure, and so are its practitioners, today, and its supporters, tomorrow.
I have been working on an alternative history of the late Dr. Sam Francis, with Francis turning to the primacy of RACE as a social organizing principle.
In it, around 2025, Idaho’s Senator Robert Mathews helps to form the organizing committee for the Northwest Republic.
That just might have been his future, had he not sought to do the ONE thing the government – NO government – will ever allow.
Oh, did I mention that Bob Mathews was set up by someone he trusted?
Good.
It didn’t work for him, it didn’t work for “The Order,” and it will not work because the outcomes it seeks are not socially stable, or politically viable.
Again, please recall the great observation of VOR’s Peter Schaenk:
The Jews have all but taken over America without firing a shot, through control of the pictures you see, and the words you read and hear.
That’s an example we could emulate, fairly easily, and very effectively.
VERY effectively.
“We SHALL Prevail.”
New America
An Idea Whose Time Is HERE!
2 September, 2008 at 8:39 pm
in reply to Howdy Doody:
you wrote:
in reply:
I was referring to the Witnesses from the perspective of organizational design, not theology.
Thanks!
We SHALL Prevail.
New America
An Idea Whose Time Is HERE!
2 September, 2008 at 8:53 pm
in reply to Howdy Doody:
you wrote:
in reply:
THAT is the masterful biography that inspired me to reconsider Long, and see him as he was – a man from reduced circumstances, who dealt with the dispossessed Whites on terms they could relate to, while battling a totally ruthless oligarchy that, if memory serves, had given Louisiana less than three hundred miles of paved road by the time Long ran for public office.
I suspect Long was our first modern National Socialist.
We can learn quite a bit from him.
Thanks for the advice!
We SHALL Prevail.
New America
An Idea Whose Time Is HERE!
2 September, 2008 at 9:13 pm
in reply to Blightblingdouche:
you wrote:
in reply:
Yes, I did!
you wrote:
in reply:
Perhaps it might be useful to keep an eye on what the people who DEFEATED the Romans did.
Simply “doing what the Romans do” gets you where the Romans are.
you wrote:
VNNers use the words “revolutionary guerrilla resistance.” What you’re referring to, I think, is the acquisition of legitimate civil power through electoral means in rural locations throughout the northern half of the continent and implementation of the Founder’s idea of the original state militias in accordance with the Constitution. The long-term goal is secession. If so, then it’s good to see the word getting out – especially to long-time VNNers. No objection to your clarification whatsoever, assuming that is what it was.
in reply:
That was my idea.
It was derived from Covington’s masterful analysis of how empires collapse, with wars begun by the politicians, and ended by the bookkeepers, as the cost of maintaining the provinces grows too dear.
The resultant power vacuum is filled by those who are locally trained, to international levels of competence.
Think of men like Jefferson, Adams, Hamilton, and Uncle Adolph.
Why aren’t we developing such capabilities in our young men?
you wrote:
in reply:
The functional equivalent of secession lays the foundation to make actual secession possible.
I KNOW no one on VNN would support anything as foolish as the use of force against the lawfully established government.
And, if Covington is right – and he usually is – we won’t need to.
We will need to learn to defend ourselves, and our Families, as a matter of course, in any case.
That should do it!
A word to the wise:
Representative David Duke counseled one and all that, if ANYONE comes up to you and proposes ANYTHING remotely illegal – like using force inappropriately, for example – then KNOW that person is either a law enforcement agent, or an informer/agent provocateur, and the only response it to WALK away from them, saying, loudly, “I DON’T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT! STAY AWAY FROM ME OR I AM GOING TO THE POLICE.” Then, if they continue, GO TO THE POLICE!
Think of where Matt Hale would be today, if he had followed that advice.
think of where Robert Mathews would be today, if he had followed that advice.
My guess?
He’d have Senator Larry Craig’s job
Don’t be a victim!
We SHALL Prevail.
New America
An Idea Whose Time Is HERE!
2 September, 2008 at 11:14 pm
Let’s not get bogged down with reactionary thinking. The present System cannot be salvaged. It must be replaced, peacefully IF possible, with a confederation of revolutionary White republics. No more centralized Superstates.
If the Founding Fathers had a legitimate reason to declare independence from the Crown, then we are a hundred times more justifed in declaring independence from Regime Central. I’m sure Jefferson, Paine, Franklin and all the rest would agree.
3 September, 2008 at 12:22 am
in reply to Zarathustra:
you wrote:
in reply:
People who speak of using force, who consider those who counsel against it, as “reactionary,” should understand that they are counseling the ONE tool that will have the user, and his immediate associates, neutralized by The System.
It is right to advocate a “replacement” for The System, but everyone gets very vague on the details of exactly how this could come to pass.
The “replacement” will not happen by magic.
It WILL happen through a process of DISPLACEMENT.
For instance, we should use the Robinson Curriculum as the foundation for home schooling, rather than sending our Posterity to the public indoctrination system.
These ideas worked spectacularly well for the demonic Jews.
The use of force has ALWAYS resulted in horrific results, for the White Nationalist Community.
Ask “The Order.”
Even a casual discussion that does not refute this folly is enough to send you to a Federal Supermax forever.
Ask Matt Hale.
I always look at those who proposed the use of force, when we have the best Idea, and the best Ideals, and wonder why they won’t give those Ideals a try, to bring about the best Idea.
The painfully obvious reason is this:
It is too much damn WORK for them to WORK steadily towards a goal they might not achieve in their lifetime.
Far easier to dream of somehow, somehow, challenging the most powerful military force in the history of the world.
Then, they crack back on the applejack, and reread “The Turner Diaries.”
They were losers, they are losers, and they will be losers, pure and simple.
They will also try to take you down with them.
you wrote:
in reply:
The Founders represented the men who owned the country, versus the men who claimed to represent the foreign ownership.
They were Aristocrats, superbly educated, groomed to rule, and – this is rarely discussed in your System history books – had the support of the French to the point that the equivalent of six – SIX – carrier groups of the French Navy neutralized the British Navy at the end of hostilities.
Not only were our Aristocrats supported by our businessmen, they had the French helping them at all points – financially, militarily, you name it.
I can’t get enough of our people to send twenty damn dollars a month to Linder, for God’s sake.
So, we must be what we want the world to become, and build outward from there.
That requires work – not much of it, at any one time, but great consistency – which most of us are totally unwilling to do, even for the sake of our Posterity.
I can assure you, one day, our Posterity will return the favor.
We SHALL Prevail.
New America
An Idea Whose Time Is HERE!
3 September, 2008 at 12:47 am
The “replacement” will not happen by magic.
It WILL happen through a process of DISPLACEMENT.
For instance, we should use the Robinson Curriculum as the foundation for home schooling, rather than sending our Posterity to the public indoctrination system.
These ideas worked spectacularly well for the Jews.
The use of force has ALWAYS resulted in horrific results, for the White Nationalist Community.
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The “Robinson Curriculum”? What????? This is far too recondite for most. You make an excellent point here. no doubt. Unfortunately, YOUR MESSAGE IS totally LOST! You are far, far too obscure to make your point. You are babbling to the stars and to the heavens. You have to make it clear and SPELL IT OUT for the masses.
And, please, drop the word “demonic”. It only makes you sound fanatical; It detracts credibility from everything you say. And it just happens that I care greatly about what you say.
3 September, 2008 at 1:35 am
in (thoughtful) reply to ein:
Thanks for your constructive criticism.
The Robinson Curriculum is a complete home school curriculum that can be bought for about 200 USD. they have a website.
My focus on “Displace and Replace” is based on the idea that most of our people define “rebellion” in terms that simply do not work in the Real World.
My point comes from Alex Linder, when he said, addressing the (rebellious) adolescents, “The best rebellion is excellence.”
That seems to be where all too many of us fall down, and escape into the fantasies of the impotent, as if, somehow, we can force dramatic societal change with people who consider bed sheets and pillow cases with eye holes to be formal attire, and their old squirrel rifle and their ’68 Chevy Nova will somehow “Take America Back.”
Losers, to a man.
I have written here twice on a comment Briseis made concerning the general ineffectiveness and widespread incompetence of all too many of our young men, and have not received ONE comment on this very important issue.
I think this is because the topic reminds all too many of our critics just how sad their lives have become, because they failed to see the world through the mindset of a Positive Theory of RACE.
Yet, forming a great NATION begins with great PEOPLE, and this is where we seem to fall somewhat short of the mark.
And, as for “demons” to refer to the Jews, well, they ARE.
That having been said, I will moderate my comments in the hope they may be more effective!
“The Race Known As Jews.”
That sounds a bit more moderate!
Thanks again for your constructive criticism.
We SHALL prevail.
New America
An Idea Whose Time Is HERE!
3 September, 2008 at 2:09 am
New America:
You bring up a good point about the Founding Fathers, whether you intended to or not. Those men were all very wealthy lawyers, gentlemen farmers and businessmen. They were Colonial America’s ruling class and became Federal America’s ruling class after the so-called Revolution. They did not really care about what was in the best interests of middle-class or working- class White people. They were only interested in perpetuating their wealth and their control over society.
If they really cared about their fellow Whites they would have shipped all the Niggers back to Africa and told the Jews to leave the Continent or else. This present System has always been a System for the rich, of the rich and by the rich. Jews are welcome to participate and non-White labor is imported so that greedy employers don’t have to pay a decent wage to White workers.
We need a new way, one that does not exploit or enslave anyone, not even the colored inferiors, one that is pro-White and makes sure every White citizen’s basic needs are taken care of. No more laissez-faire capitalism, which only benefits the rich and their Jewish cohorts at the expense of everyone else. I’m hoping for something along the lines of NS Germany, the CSA, Periclean Athens, Bismarck’s Germany and Plato’s Republic. Is it possible or just a racialist pipe-dream?
3 September, 2008 at 9:44 am
But what are the simple logistics of how this is going to happen? How are we going to build White homelands and communities away from our enemies if we can’t even trust each other and agree to meet each other without thinking we are all feds and antis.
I simply do not see anything happening in the foreseeable future, because no one is willing to step outside of his or her comfort zone and make it happen.
Until we come together in large groups, or small groups, for that matter, and start planning and strategizing, what is going to change? Nothing.
We’ll all just continue to post on the Internet about what we’d like to see happen, what should happen, but what will never happen because we simply don’t trust each other.
And, more to the point, HOW do we come to trust each other? Maybe that is even more important a question at this point.
As soon as someone mentions meeting, everyone scatters like cockroaches when the light is flicked on.
3 September, 2008 at 2:02 pm
in reply to Susan:
Thank you for your excellent comments.
They directly address important issues, and need addressing themselves.
you wrote:
in reply:
We build Communities by starting with Families, and extended Families.
We prove the worth of our Community by being Better People, and manifesting constructive rebellion as excellence.
I simply assume the feds are watching and listening, and given them them something to be proud of.
I also know that the minute anyone beings to speculate about anything remotely illegal, I never talk to them again, and will not be in their presence.
Why?
First, let’s assume they are not Feds, and mean what they say.
As Terrible Tommy Metzger said, “If they are going to do these things, what do they need YOU for?”
Second, let’s assume they are Feds, or just low-rent agents provocateurs.
Again, follow the example of David Duke.
The days of the Antis are numbered, for excellent demographic reasons.
And, be mature, adn admit that the Feds will ALWAYS be watching.
Give them something to be proud of!
you wrote:
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An excellent first step would be to join the ANSWP – Bill White is a first rate catalyst for these issues.
Another first step would be to work on behalf of john deNugent’s campaign.
Another first step is to create, say, a poster with the words – done in large stenciled letters – STOP WHIT GENOCIDE, and then hand anyone who wishes a flyer with Bob Whitaker’s Mantra on one side, and Duke’s commentary on the demographic death of America on the other.
Don’t argue!
Another would be to discreetly put this flyer in public places.
you wrote:
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What will happen is what we can DO, what we can MAKE happen.
THAT lays the necessary foundation.
If we wait for the torchlight parades, we shall wait in vain.
If we BE WHAT WE WANT THE WORLD TO BECOME, we will Create the Foundation for the torchlight parades.
you wrote:
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Adults trust within limits.
The test of an Adult is what you DO, particualrly when no one is looking.
I suspect the Foundations for White Communities are being laid slowly, softly, even as we speak.
Every time a White Family leaves Southern California (or, to be more precise, New New Mexico), they flee to Whitelandia. If this means they have to “double up” with their families in Whitelandia for a while, so be it.
These people are the strongest evangelists for the formation of a White NATION we could hope for.
It’s a start.
you wrote:
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I don’t trust anyone to do anything other than what is in their interest.
My comments of the Feds stand.
The Place To Begin is to get Harold Covington’s Northwest Quadrology, all of which are available online. in particular, start with “A Distant Thunder,” and read it nightly, to help develop the proper mental framework, the Mindset, you will need.
When the time is ready, the next step will present itself.
Just remember – the person who proposes using force is the agent provocatuer.
Just tell him if he mentions it again, you are going to call the police.
When you call the police, HIS cell phone will ring!
you wrote:
in reply:
Not Bill White, but these things must be done intelligently.
That’s where we have failed, and can no longer afford the luxury of failure.
I’m not saying Bill White is perfect.
He DOES lead by example, and he IS intelligent, and he DOES have strategic and tactical plans that are proven by history, and are battle-tested.
Being discreetly with White’s ANSWP, and openly with deNugent’s campaign, are options you might want to consider.
We SHALL Prevail.
New America
An Idea Whose Time Is HERE!
3 September, 2008 at 2:04 pm
I guess we will all just have to wait for the situation to become so bad and intolerable that even Regime Central won’t be able to control things anymore. At that point, instead of Whites uniting against the common enemy, it will be the Odinists fighting against the Identity types, the pan-aryans against the White nationalists, the left-wing racists against the right-wing racists, and so on…………………………When it’s all over, only the Aboriginies and the Hotentots will be left, a mindless swarm of peanut-butter colored savages urinating and defecating all over the ruins of the Louvre and the Parthenon.
3 September, 2008 at 4:23 pm
in reply to Zarathustra:
you wrote:
in reply:
The only free markets have been flea markets; the assumptions required to make a “free market” are virtually never present in the Real World.
What is needed is transparency, which reduces the friction involved in the transaction, and a system that acknowledges market-clearing prices.
THAT is a true “free market,” from an NS economic perspective.
And, the “proto-racialist” model can start with Families who support their members, and their extended membership, in an economic purpose.
From the Families – which is the necessary precondition for a Nation – will come the Foundation for a WN Nation, and, in time, a WN State, in a WN Country.
Covington has dealt with these issues with a rare depth of wisdom and insight.
We SHALL Prevail.
New America
An Idea Whose Time Is HERE!
3 September, 2008 at 4:42 pm
in reply to Zarathustra (2):
you wrote:
in reply:
The Self-Defeating Behaviors that are the hallmark of Movement Past guarantee that anything that would lead to the Foundation of the Formation of a White Nationalist organization is, as a rule, hopelessly corrupted from the start.
Yet, think of the examples of possible White Nationalism you see on television, and all you see are people you would not want to be in a room with.
This Is Not By Accident.
I think what is developing economically will FORCE extended Families to live under one roof, and letting one and all SEE what happens when the jungle savages end up in positions of control.
We have seen what happens in the cities when the jingle savages put on business suits, act White to get elected, and act Black after they get in.
The cities becomes Third World Enclaves, particularly at night, where there are entire sections where the police do not go without a LOT of backup.
Yet, the historical White response has always been to flee, in horror, another five miles up the highway.
That option is pretty much becoming foreclosed to them.
This is why I am such an advocate for an Obama presidency.
Either way, the illegal Mexicans will become legalized, and then their families, and America will become Mexico, with snow – and THEY will have the rights, under Affirmative Action, that have been foreclosed to the White Posterity, by the Self-Proclaimed Greatest Generation.
We will have to evolve, or die, and the struggle that we have long denied will be brought before us, clearly and forcefully.
In the end, it will come down to us adopting the same philosophy the goddamn Jews – Life Is A Battle Between Races.
Family is the microcosm of RACE.
RACE is the macrocosm of Family, and
RACE is the Living Bridge between Family and Culture.
Simple as that.
I am to the point that I now see all – ALL – issues, as RACIAL issues, to one degree or another.
I might add, this is the philosophy that has worked for the goddamn Jews, and this will – WILL – be the philosophy that words for us.
We SHALL Prevail.
New America
An Idea Whose Time Is HERE!
3 September, 2008 at 7:44 pm
New America writes: ‘Perhaps it might be useful to keep an eye on what the people who DEFEATED the Romans did.
“Simply “doing what the Romans do” gets you where the Romans are.”
1. The analogy concerned communication, not military strategy. Be advised, however, that Rome outlasted the U.S. by >800 years. Not bad, in this blightblinger’s opinion.
2. Zarathustra is correct. You DO need to tone down the “demonic” rhetoric. Seriously.
3. Last I heard, Al Quaeda was represented in Lebanon’s parliament. It has acquired political legitimacy.
4. Joining the ANSWP is far from the only path one can take to advance the cause of rural economic independence, the acquisition of legitimate civil power in rural areas, and secession. The idea didn’t originate with Bill White. All are encouraged to pursue it. Be advised that organizational membership is not required for implementation. Implementation begins with family and long-term friends. Covington’s important contribution to the overall plan is the Northwest migration. The men loudly pushing microcommunities, alternate production & education, barter-alternate currencies-gift giving, acquiring local political legitimacy, the merger of Canada with the Northern United States, and secession in recent years are Maguire, James Bowery, and GT, with important contributions from McCulloch (PLE), Rienzi’ (balkanization, Legion Europa), and Thomas Chittum (CW2). At least three of this group consider the solicitation of donations for Internet ‘speech’ to be immoral.
3 September, 2008 at 8:48 pm
in reply to Blightblingingdoorag:
you wrote:
in reply:
A more viable example might be the example of governance cited most often by the Founders in their discussions of the most perfect form of government, the Venetian Republic.
When Roman military prowess outran Rome’s economic success, the Roman Empire shifted from the political-military model, based in Rome, to the political-economic model, based in Constantinople.
you wrote:
in reply:
That was “ein” who made that criticism, and, out of respect for ein’s maturity and wisdom, I have dialed it back a bit.
We’ll see where it leads.
I’ve heard no complaints for “crackhead niggers,” so I guess that one’s still on.
you wrote:
in rely:
A mere fig leaf.
It was a synthetic organization, and was little more than a catch-all for various local forces we had no knowledge whatsoever about.
Al Quaeda’s day is done. Their position in the Lebanese parliament literally – literally – sits under the Sword of Damascus, with the strength of one hair stopping the sword from impaling them.
Hezbollah is another story. With a wide range of community organizations, they have established deep-rooted legitimacy among their people.
My larger concern about the citation of Al Quaeda as a model for anything, other than ineptiude, was the support of them, and the implicit support of “an Al Qaeda-style revolutionary underground guerrilla resistance.”
NOTHING GOOD HAS EVER REPEAT EVER COME OF ANYONE EVEN THREATENING THE USE OF FORCE TO ACHIEVE REVOLUTIONARY ENDS.
Again, should we ask the still living members of The Order, or ask the spirit of Robert Mathews, or David Lane?
What do you think Robert Mathews would do, today, if he knew what we knew?
You tell me.
My guess: he was be running for Senator Larry Craig’s position.
Successfully.
you wrote:
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I never said White was the only way.
He – alone – has the skill, intelligence, focus and discipline to build an organization from scratch.
In the past, I have mentioned that our people could easily join local political parties, which offer free training in running campaigns and winning elections.
This helps us to gain the skills necessary to be political leaders, and statesmen, in a better world, a Brighter, Whiter America.
White is building an organization – and he has a strategy that is most thoughtful.
Hell, White is trying to lay the Foundation for a new Civilization!
Top THAT!
you wrote:
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Yes, one one, and No, on the other.
Covington’s contributions go well beyond the Northwest migration.
“A Distant Thunder” just taps the surface of Covington’s contributions to us, our Families, and our RACE.
Covington’s Analytical Framework is so comprehensive that we can say, if it doesn’t fit in Covington’s Analytical Framework, it is not White Nationalism.
you wrote:
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None of whom have transformed Dreams into Plans, or have a strategic plan of any substance whatsoever to GET THEM THERE.
I don’t mean to criticize them totally, and am glad for the good works they have done.
But, April Gaede showed more courage than they ever have, when she chose to move to Kalispell, and NOT BE PUSHED OUT.
And, as for the idea that “At least three of this group consider the solicitation of donations for Internet ’speech’ to be immoral,” let me point out that the price of their moral purity is political impotence, and total organizational ineffectiveness.
That’s why I remind one and all that money can – and should – be sent to Linder, address at the top and bottom of your screen – for all the good he has done, and is doing, for us, both personally, and as members of the only RACE that Creates a better world.
We SHALL Prevail.
New America
An Idea Whose Time Is HERE!
4 September, 2008 at 2:21 am
New America, I like the idea of White, family-oriented microcommunities………..That is pretty much what the hippies were trying to do after they left SF, NYC and LA, and built communes so they could “get back to Nature.” The Establishment laughed at their naievete, but the hippies, most of whom were White, learned to be self-sufficient and were definately on to something.
White communes, White communal living…….Our Cro-Magnon ancestors practiced it, as did our more recent Germanic, Slavic and flower-power ancestors. It’s an idea whose time has come, yet again.
Just one thing……NO FAT CHICKS ALLOWED.
4 September, 2008 at 2:49 pm
you wrote:
Zarathustra is correct. You DO need to tone down the “demonic” rhetoric. Seriously.
in reply:
That was “ein” who made that criticism, and, out of respect for ein’s maturity and wisdom, I have dialed it back a bit.
I did? I’m just now reading this. Thank you for the nice compliment, but I don’t recall ever saying that — though I’ll admit I’ve certainly thought it. But I’ve tried to forego criticism and hold my tongue (in this case, the “enter” button). But I am still glad that someone has mentioned it, because nothing is to be gained by an excess of adjectives. “Demonic” we can do without. We get the message. However waranted it may be, it will rub a lot of people the wrong way. It’s overkill.
Whoever said it, I’l glad you agree.
4 September, 2008 at 3:38 pm
in reply to ein:
See “ein Says at 3 September, 2008 at 12:47 am,” directly above.
It might be “overkill,” but there are times – MANY times – when it is called for.
I’m glad to see “crackhead nigger” still makes the good list!
We SHALL Prevail!
New America
An Idea Whose Time Is HERE!
4 September, 2008 at 4:08 pm
One quick comment concerning why the conventional Form of political organization is not to our advantage, and why, implicitly, Harold Covington’s Northwest Republic Analytical Model presents our best hope:
Am I the only person who noticed Sarah Palin had an Israeli flag pin on her left collar during her RNC speech?
Anyone else?
Anyone at all?
Buehler?
We SHALL Prevail.
New America
An Idea Whose Time Is HERE!
5 September, 2008 at 12:50 am
Cap’n America, I’m glad you brought up that DINGBAT Sarah Palin. What a joke. That’s the best McCain could find for a running mate? Isn’t she married to Nanook of the North, ie, a Mongoloid Eskimo? And all that bullshit about Republican”family values”…….Her own slut daughter got knocked up out of wedlock! Great parenting skills, douchebag!
And I think you are right about the Israeli flag lapel. I wonder if these politicians were scum befrore they became politicians, or became scum as a result of being politicians? In any case, they just can’t wait to suck up to their Jew masters.
5 September, 2008 at 1:44 am
Any one posting at VNN anything that is dis-respectful of Dr. K MacDonald is IMO a total useful idiot, collaborator, or flat out and enternal enemy alien.
5 September, 2008 at 11:49 am
JFK issued silver certificates in competition with jew paper, dead six months later:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQDTCmd9rzk
5 September, 2008 at 1:09 pm
Congressman Henry B. Gonzales of Texas called for an audit of the Federal Reserve 7 or 8 years ago. He then recieved a bunch of mysterious death threats and died a short time later.
5 September, 2008 at 10:28 pm
Am I the only person who noticed Sarah Palin had an Israeli flag pin on her left collar during her RNC speech?
Anyone else? Anyone at all?
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I saw a video about that.
There’s something that’s not quite right there. But I just can’t pinpoint it.
And that name! Uh, uh. Nothing such. Palinsky?
I can’t speak of her specifically, but I’ve written this before: Jews like to be mayors, even of small, remote, little towns.
And she was already a TV personality before getting into politics. Hmmm.
5 September, 2008 at 10:33 pm
Let me take this opportunity to back up Howdy Doody.
I’m behind him (and Prof. MacDonald) one hundred percent.
6 September, 2008 at 1:46 am
I can’t speak of her specifically, but I’ve written this before: Jews like to be mayors, even of small, remote, little towns.
ein, you right!
In the Western US states they slithered their way in many positions and turmoil goes with them, and it really got going in the West the during the 80′s and picking up steam in numbers by the 90s.
6 September, 2008 at 1:48 am
Your, not you.
6 September, 2008 at 2:42 am
Sarah Palinsky…..Sounds like a Hebress to me! ;(