5 February, 2009

After Jews Complain, Vatican Demands Bishop Recant

Posted by Socrates in Catholicism, Holocaust, holocaust racket, Holocaustianity, Jewish arrogance, Jewish paranoia, Socrates, Vatican at 9:47 pm | Permanent Link

There are a couple of things going on here: 1) Jewish arrogance: how dare a gentile – a Catholic official, no less! – question any part of the Holocaust; 2) Jewish paranoia: what if other influential gentiles follow suit and decide to publicly question parts of the Holocaust?

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  7. 75 Responses to “After Jews Complain, Vatican Demands Bishop Recant”

    1. Veritas Says:

      Expounding on Stuyvesant’s observations from Bp. Williamson’s blog:

      “Notable in the Coda is the fourfold repetition of the hero’s triumphant main theme, climaxing with inexorable logic in a blaze of glory. Lord, grant us heroes of the Faith, heroes both tender and valiant, heroes of the Church! Kyrie eleison.”

      Definitely not going to recant.

    2. Z.O.G. Says:

      “It is not about emotions but about historic evidence,” he said. “If I find this evidence, I will correct myself. But that will take time. I was convinced that my views were right on the basis of my own research from the 1980s. But now I see that there are many honest and intelligent people who think differently and I therefore must look again at the historical evidence.”

      LOL

      That sounds like a recant to me. He’s trying to save face while doing it, but it’s still a recant.

      You guys own me 1 trillion JRN’s. Pay up. :-)

    3. Z.O.G. Says:

      correction:

      “You guys owe me 1 trillion JRN’s.”

    4. Veritas Says:

      You’re wrong, Z.O.G. You don’t understand finesse.

      “If I find this evidence, I will correct myself.”

      No way will he find this evidence. It doesn’t exist and he knows it. He understand exactly what’s going on with the Jews, 9/11, the Holocaust, Vatican II, the whole nine yards. How ’bout this which he wrote shortly after 9/11.

      “On the political level, we can be virtually certain that the vile media will not tell us the full story. There is serious reason to believe – that in 1898, it was not the Spaniards who sank the “USS Maine”; that in 1917, it was not the Germans who set up the “Lusitania” as a target; that in 1941 it was not the Japanese who set up Pearl Harbor for attack; that in 1963 it was not Lee Harvey Oswald who killed President Kennedy. In 1990 it was certainly not Saddam Hussein who promised not to react if he invaded Kuwait. In 1994 it was certainly not Timothy McVeigh’s van exploding outside the Alfred Murrah building in Oklahoma City which brought the front of the building down. In 2001…? Saddam Hussein, Slobodan Milosevic, now Osama bin Laden, from CIA-assets to personal enemies of the American people – how many more times will the trick work?

      http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:_KLMjy0mJN4J:www.sspx.ca/Documents/Bishop-Williamson/October1-2001.htm+bishop+williamsons+letters+october+2001+from+winona&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=us

    5. Veritas Says:

      BTW, Z.O.G., I noticed that you avoided Ein’s question:

      “Oh? How are you aware of this? How do you know what Jews laugh at?”

      You are desperate to see this man fall. Your hostility to him is most curious.

    6. Z.O.G. Says:

      I’m not “desperate” to see Bishop Williamson fall. I’m just sick of seeing WN’s and patriots get their hopes up that some prominent person in media, government, religion, etc. is actually going to stand up to the Jews, only to have their hopes crushed when that person INVARIABLY backs down.

    7. Z.O.G. Says:

      Did Williamson really write that short history of false flag operations? Wow, I’m impressed. Maybe he’s smarter than I thought. Ah, but take notice of the fact that he mentioned ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about Israel’s very long history of false flag attacks. So on second thought, he’s not as knowledgeable and informed as I thought he was.

      1. Bombing of the King David Hotel – 1946

      2. The Lavon Affair – 1954

      3. Attack on the U.S.S. Liberty – 1967

      4. Bombing of the U.S. Marine barracks in Lebanon – 1982

    8. Veritas Says:

      Classic Z.O.G. and his deceptiveness. Start to sound conciliatory, then shoot him down. Since he didn’t directly mention Israel (like he doesn’t know?) he must not have any idea about Israel’s involvement. That was one letter written in October 2001. Not a comprehensive list of all of his thoughts on the Jews and their crimes.

      If you had clicked on the link provided you would have read:

      “Politically, behind the Arab terrorists are most likely the would-be architects of the New World Order, who have long been using the United States as an instrument to achieve their control of the world. Long ago they planned three World Wars to achieve their aim. It is they who provoked the sinking of the “Lusitania” and the attack on Pearl Harbor to bring the USA into the first two. Now they seem to be using the Arabs also. Humanly, they are clever. They are even diabolically clever.”

      Now here he says who it is who is trying “to achieve control of the world.”:

      “In the Catholic Middle Ages the Jews we’re (sic) relatively impotent to harm Christendom, but as Catholics have grown over the centuries since then weaker and weaker in the faith, especially since Vatican II, so the Jews have come closer and closer to fulfilling their substitute-Messianic drive towards world dominion.”

    9. gw Says:

      Veritas Says: BTW, Z.O.G., I noticed that you avoided Ein’s question:
      “Oh? How are you aware of this? How do you know what Jews laugh at?”

      You are desperate to see this man fall.
      ———————————————————

      Yes, I noticed that too. I don’t like it.

      As I wrote earlier in another post about the Kennedy family, solidarity is all important. It is very essential that we should SUPPORT our champions and heros — precious few that they are — not attack them.

      AFTER this man recants, if that ever does happen, then THAT’S the time to criticize him. But why attack, laugh at, and disparage him IN ADVANCE of any reason? So far, he’s done nothing but shown bravery.

      Why attack our heros?
      It makes no sense. unless you [quote] “are desperate to see this man fall”.
      ———————–
      ZOG: “Wow, I’m impressed. Maybe he’s smarter than I thought. Ah, but take notice of the fact that he mentioned ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about Israel’s very long history of false flag attacks. So on second thought, he’s not as knowledgeable and informed as I thought he was.”

      Oh, oh! There you go again, tearing him down just as soon as you built him up … despite what you just said!

      So he’s really not so smart after all? Well, maybe we should just forget about him completely, right? After all, he’s just a spineless jerk.
      Why should we waste time listening to a moron like that? Right? Let’s just forget him and let him fade away.

    10. Stuyvesant Says:

      Williamson is the voice of the Real Church, not this 68-generation rebel rousing ‘liberation theology’, multicultural, porn-watching, aborting, let’s dump the West lefty lowlifes. The catholic church with people like Williamson could be a powerful vehicle in the defense of the West and white civilization. He could be a reason to join the catholic church rather than my jewed protestant church I was raised in but abandoned a long time ago.

    11. Stuyvesant Says:

      It happened to the Middle-East: in the sixties and seventies most arab countries were socialist. With the arrival of Khomeiny everything changed and Islam underwent a huge revival. If the current economic downturn will prove to be deep and long lasting expect an upsurge in interest for religion in the West as well. Here in Europe and in Holland in particular there is a clear strong undercurrent against immigration; the left is retreating and even taken over from within by the immigrants and by Islam, which is a good thing.

    12. Stuyvesant Says:

      Even I am surprised by Veritas’ find:

      http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:_KLMjy0mJN4J:www.sspx.ca/Documents/Bishop-Williamson/October1-2001.htm+bishop+williamsons+letters+october+2001+from+winona&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=us

      The genius Williamson knew only 3 weeks after the event that 9/11 was an (israeli) inside job.

      I doubt btw that the german pope did not know about the convictions of Williamson. Allthough the pope does not have the 100% strength of convictions, he did advocate against a turkish membership of the EU before a visit to Turkey. During the visit he became weak knees. But I have a feeling that the pope has tendencies that go in the right direction and that he is looking for allies like the Pius-members.

    13. gw Says:

      Stuyvesant Says: “Even I am surprised by Veritas’ find.
      The genius Williamson knew only 3 weeks after the event that 9/11 was an (israeli) inside job.”

      Yes, I am surprised too. Amazed , in fact!
      “Genius” is surely the right word for him.

      Although he sees this problem in religious rather than political terms (hardly surprising for a bishop), which is somewhat a different point of view from most of us, he is clearly under no illusions whatsoever about the Jews and their role in fomenting world chaos. Nor about their goals. He understands the Jewosh Problem.

      Obviously, from the Jews’ point of view, this man MUST GO!!! And they’re working hard at undermining and destroying him, including their agents here.
      =======================
      “behind the Arab terrorists are most likely the would-be architects of the New World Order, who have long been using the United States as an instrument to achieve control of the world.
      When Spanish Catholics were slack in the 700’s, God allowed the Jews to betray Spain to the Arabs. As early as 200, Tertullian remarked that as [Christian] faith goes up, Jewish power goes down, while as [Christian] faith goes down, Jewish power goes up. In the Middle Ages, the Jews we’re relatively impotent to harm Christendom, but as Catholics have grown weaker in the faith, especially since Vatican II, so the Jews have come closer to fulfilling their substitute-Messianic drive towards world dominion.

      This problem of the United States is politically insoluble, because it is a religious problem! The United States is caught between these two scourges of God. God is using Arab and Jew to chastise us!
      [But] the Arabs still have enough sense … to scorn and loathe the cheap food, music and clothing, the culture of materialism, that has been spread all over the world – from the United States. Does such a loathing of trash justify suicidal terrorism? No, but it goes some way to explaining it.”

      As for the Pope: Yes, of the two, he is the weak-kneed one. After that visit to Turkey, HE was the one to retract, repent, and recant!

      [‘Although the pope does not have the 100% strength of convictions, he did advocate against a Turkish membership in the EU before a visit to Turkey. During the visit, he became weak kneed.”]

    14. Stuyvesant Says:

      ZOG says: “I don’t see why you guys are surprised. Christianity is a Jewish religion. It was created by Jews for Jews.”

      It certainly was originally a jewish sect, but in the core christianity is deeply ‘anti-semitic’. Not for nothing did the jews kill Christ. He was a defector of the jewish tribe, a deeply racist cult, the only cult that deified itself rather than plainly worshipped a god just like all other tribes did. They had the chutzpa that God had a preference for their little tribe (‘the chosen’). Christ was a hippie avant la lettre, he wanted to kiss everybody, even non-jews (Love thy neighbour). The jews designed themselves as an elite destined to rule over all other tribes. That implies that this tribe had to erect strong boundaries between their in-group and all other out-groups. Defectors like Jesus had to be (capital) punished as a warning to all other jews, not unlike the behaviour of the maffia.

      Catholicism, exactly as the good bishop states, was an effective vehicle in keeping the jews down; the stronger the faith in god, the stronger the resistance against the christ-killers. It worked for 15 centuries.

      That does not mean that I’m really happy with christianity. Europeans (either with or without US passport) are very good at inventing iPhones, TGV’s and Apollo programs. But with Nietzsche I have to express the displeasure: ‘2000 years and no new religion’. It’s incredible that we Europeans are linked to a not unsympathetic jewish chap from the desert. but I’d much rather have a pantheon of greek, roman or better germanic gods. But alas… where is the white Muhamed?

    15. Zarathustra Says:

      The Catholic Church looked at the Jewish Problem from a religious, not a racial, perspective. It was naively assumed that if a Jew converted to the Faith of Rome, he would not act like an evil, diabolical Jew anymore. Many Jews were pressured to convert, but Jews don’t change their spots and so they continued to act like Jews and practiced their Talmudic religion in secret.

    16. gw Says:

      Yes, you’re right. The Catholic Church (well, all Christians, really) saw it as religious, not racial. Thus, they missed the point. They thought – and still do – that all you have to do is convert the Jews, and – bingo! – problem solved.

      Uh, uh. Doesn’t work! Converting the Jews is a big mistake (as the Spanish painfully learned). What have you got then? A bunch of infiltrators in sheeps’ clothes. Look at that Cardinal Lustnger of Paris, recently passed away, who insisted that he was both a Jew and a Catholic. Hesaw no contradiction. What kind of hybrid creature is that? Is it fish or fowl? No wonder the modern church is such a mess. It’s been infiltrated and riddled through and through — with all sorts of types, not just Jews — to the extent that it doesn’t know if it’s coming or going. It no longer represents us, as it once did. It certainly doesn’t know what’s good for us. Nor even care.

      But as for Biship Williamson, back to my question above: What’s with these people who are determined to smear him and tear him down? What gives?

    17. Stuyvesant Says:

      “The Catholic Church looked at the Jewish Problem from a religious, not a racial, perspective.”

      That never was a problem until europeans started to invent steam boats, trains and airliners.

    18. Stuyvesant Says:

      Adding to my previous post: I am refering to third worlders, not the jews.

    19. gw Says:

      “That never was a problem until europeans started to invent steam boats, trains and airliners.”

      Not a major problem. Right. In other words, until about 30 years ago, when Europe was still populated by Europeans. (But who prepared the way for the subsequent invasion? Who got the laws changed? Who pressured the politicians and softened up the populace?)

      Stuyvesant Says: “Adding to my previous post: I am referring to third worlders, not the jews.”

      Gotcha!

      But (again) what about Bishop Williamson?

    20. Stuyvesant Says:

      Interesting. The bishop visited a garden party in october last year organized by non other than… David Irving!

      http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/09/02/Henderson_tosh.html

      “Williamson is a follower of the English propagandist David Irving, perhaps the best-known Holocaust denier in the Western world.”

      Just in case you are not familiar with this colourful and witty historian, here is a lecture by him from 1995 held in Cincinnatti (105 minutes):

      http://video.google.nl/videosearch?q=david+irving+truth+in+history&hl=nl&emb=0&aq=f&aq=f#

    21. Veritas Says:

      I can’t read anymore about him in the MSM. Even white gentiles are saying ridiculous things like (in the David Irving article above) calling people who won’t accept the 6 million lie “lunar conspiracy theorists.” Why does it never occur to them as *reporters* to ask those positing the 6 million number to provide proof of their assertion? These people are f*cking pathetic. I don’t know how they sleep at night.

    22. Z.O.G. Says:

      Why does it never occur to them as *reporters* to ask those positing the 6 million number to provide proof of their assertion?

      Because most of the reporters are Jewish, and even the ones who aren’t have Jewish bosses/editors.

    23. gw Says:

      Here is some news about him that I just came across. He has been removed from his seminary in Argentina. This is an excellent example of the wrath of the Jews. The Jews will ruthlessly persecute and utterly DESTROY anyone who disagrees with them or displeases them. Anyone who messes with their meal ticket. Their HolyCause is their meal ticket.

      Who are they to dictate what a Catholic bishop can say or think? What business is it of theirs, anyway? Since when does Jerusalem run the Vatican?

      When the Jews yell, the Vatican jumps! A perfect illustration of their enormous, excessive power.

      http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hHTQIvSDxNgBho-JYJB8gbYupKhgD9683TE00

    24. Veritas Says:

      The problem is not even the Vatican, it’s the SSPX! The leadership is caving.! The whole point of founding the SSPX was to escape the Judaizers in the Vatican and not obey the Pope. That’s how they got excommunicated. Bishop Fellay is a goddamn traitor. I don’t know exactly what’s going on, but there’s been some kind of sell out and Bishop Williamson is obviously being set up to be expelled. Maybe that was part of the deal.

    25. Zarathustra Says:

      Why doesn’t the Vatican just admit the obvious…..The Jews tell the Pope what to do. I wonder how that admission would be recieved by a billion Catholics?

      BTW, even though I’m no Fred Leucther, it’s blatantly obvious that it would have been physically impossible to “gas” millions of people to death, especially in just a 3 year period, like the Jews insist. But instead of always denying their bizarre claims, just say you’re “shocked”, “deeply saddened” and “disturbed” that Hitler didn’t have the chance to gas another 6 million. Use their own words of feigned indignation against them.