18 September, 2009

UK: Catholic Equality-Kooks Rally

Posted by Socrates in Bible, Catholicism, communism, egalitarianism, equality, Marxism, Old Testament, Socrates at 2:16 pm | Permanent Link

Catholicism, Marxism – they’re almost the same thing. Both are fundamentally Jewish and both champion human equality [1]:

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[1] the Old Testament is Jewish


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  7. 69 Responses to “UK: Catholic Equality-Kooks Rally”

    1. CW-2 Says:

      The Catholic church ,and Christianity in general, take a very dim view of individual suicide, however, they now applaud mass suicide in the form of cultural and racial extinction. Perhaps these churchmen won’t be happy until Europe is culturally and morally degenerate as Brazil.

      I just hope the next pope is a black ex-muslim converso jew who is also gay.

    2. Tim Harris Says:

      But Socrates… the Old Testament does not “champion human equality.”

    3. CW-2 Says:

      The Old Testament was written by the self-chosen solely for their own purposes. It was a big mistake for Christianity to get lumbered with the O.T.
      I’m not sure if the New Testament takes a position on ‘equality’, it appears to be more focused on the individual. True, St Paul says “there is neither Jew or Greek, male or female, slave or freeman”. But he isn’t talking about equality of groups, he is stating that Christ’s redemption is open to all.
      Perhaps a vnner with Biblical learning can enlighten us.

    4. Lone Star Says:

      The word “Jew” is practically not in the OT. The OT is not about the Jews, it is about the Hebrews and their descendants, the tribes of Israel, of which Judah was one. There is some controversy that “Judah” has been mistranslated as “Jew.” Anyway, Jews don’t pop up until the NT and their leadership is nasty and mostly trying to kill Jesus, just like today. The Jews are suspected of being a mongrel race, even back then. Jesus never said he was coming to rescue the Jews per se, he said he came for “the lost sheep of Israel.”

      As far as Catholics being like Jews, that’s pretty funny, since the Jews have been trying to destroy the Catholic Church for centuries. Now they have infiltrated the Church, just like any other organization or power.

      The old paintings portray the people from the Bible as white. I do not think this is from some kind of bias. The people in the Middle East, Asia Minor and North Africa were probably white at some time. There are passages in the OT that refer to pale skin and ruddiness, both of which are qualities of white people. Of course the modern Church will never tell you this, even though they discuss many things in the OT.

      The whites took their religion with them wherever they went. The only place you find the Christian Church firmly established is in white countries. And of course, wherever Christ goes, Satan is soon to follow.

    5. Antagonistes Says:

      I agree with you, CW-2, that Paul was not talking about equality of groups.

      He was talking about salvation being open to all.

      Good enough.

      But what happens when “saved” blacks want to worship at a White church?

      All are saved, and all have the Spirit of Christ, so what is the rationale for a segregated church?

      And from there, it takes off . . .

    6. ein Says:

      “As far as Catholics being like Jews, that’s pretty funny, since the Jews have been trying to destroy the Catholic Church for centuries. Now they have infiltrated the Church, just like any other organization or power. “

      Exactly so. If they can’t estroy it from without, they’ll burrow inside and destroy it from within. At any rate, once they take control, it can go on existing because there will be nothing left that’s threatening to them, and it can be made useful to them. It’s a very handy device for crowd control, and can be extremely useful for raking in money. Hmmmm. Maybe they’ll let it remain after all. Why kill the whole bush if you can just remove its thorns, but still collect the roses?

      ‘”The old paintings portray the people from the Bible as white. I do not think this is from some kind of bias. The people in the Middle East, Asia Minor and North Africa were probably white at some time.”

      I can visualize that a thousand years from now – or even a few centuries – if there are any historians and artists left by that time, they may be commenting to each other (just as we are here) that if you look at old art works (any that still exist) you will notice that once Europe was white! Even North America for a time. Remarkable!

      An amazing revelation that probably will be illegal to mention openly. A very daring act, in fact! But by then, who will care? The few despised and persecuted whites that might remain in remote places will be seen as oddities. And the rare atavistic blond or redhead that pops up will be considered freaks. Perhaps, as in Africa today, their body parts will be sought for juju or some other useful purpose.

    7. Blackshirt Says:

      “[1] the Old Testament is Jewish”

      So is the “New Testament”… it’s ALL Jewish.

    8. Blackshirt Says:

      Lone Star said:

      “The old paintings portray the people from the Bible as white. I do not think this is from some kind of bias. The people in the Middle East, Asia Minor and North Africa were probably white at some time.”

      The old paintings you are referring to were painted by Europeans illustrating the stories of the bible, but weren’t representative of what the Middle Eastern peoples looked like. The Europeans who painted those pictures most likely never saw someone who wasn’t White around them, especially during the Dark Ages and the Medieval period. Contemporary pictures of Hebrews and other semites from Ancient times always show them as swarthy, hook nosed, and kinky haired. Pictures from Sumeria and Egypt show this. Anyone that tells you that the Ancient Israelites, Phoenicians, Egyptians, Sumerians, or other Middle Eastern peoples were blond haired, blue eyed Aryans is FULL OF SHIT.

      It’s time to flush this CI garbage. Ancient Jews were the same slimy types we have today, there is NO difference. White Aryans didn’t develop in the hot desert of the Middle East, it is obvious we developed in cooler climates where our skin adapted to the lack of sunlight.

    9. Jack Says:

      Actually, there were substantial populations of whites in the Middle East, North Africa, the Near East and India in ancient times. Check out Arthur Kemp’s “March of the Titans” for details.

    10. Lone Star Says:

      “[1] the Old Testament is Jewish”

      So is the “New Testament”… it’s ALL Jewish.

      Yeah, and that’s why the Jews want to get rid of Christianity everywhere they go, because it’s sooooo Jewish…LOL. Remember, the enemy of your enemy is your friend.

      Paul was from the tribe of Benjamin, which along with Judah, was one of the last two tribes remaining in Judea. He was a former “Jew” as far as religion was concerned. But his race was white. The religion of the “Jews” is the same today, it is a mix of the Babylonian mystery religion with the Torah. That’s why Jesus condemned the religious leaders of the day, because they inverted the original doctrine. But the people who follow “Judaism” today are totally different people. They are Khazars, a Turkish-Mongol people.

      “The Europeans who painted those pictures most likely never saw someone who wasn’t White around them, especially during the Dark Ages and the Medieval period.”

      Go back and study history. The Europeans were trading all over the world. That’s partly how they got rich and were able to create such incredible works of art. They knew what the people looked like.

      “Contemporary pictures of Hebrews and other semites from Ancient times always show them as swarthy, hook nosed, and kinky haired. Pictures from Sumeria and Egypt show this.”

      Wrong again. Northern Africa was populated entirely by Caucasoids and so was the Middle East. You sound like an Afrocentrist, on a white nationalist website!

      “Anyone that tells you that the Ancient Israelites, Phoenicians, Egyptians, Sumerians, or other Middle Eastern peoples were blond haired, blue eyed Aryans is FULL OF SHIT.”

      Inappropriate reaction. And no proof of your position. Are you sure you’re really a “white nationalist?”

      “It’s time to flush this CI garbage. Ancient Jews were the same slimy types we have today, there is NO difference. White Aryans didn’t develop in the hot desert of the Middle East, it is obvious we developed in cooler climates where our skin adapted to the lack of sunlight.”

      I am talking anthropology, not CI. And you don’t even know that today’s Jews are largely descended from Turkish Mongol converts from 8th century Khazaria, not Ancient Israelites. Sheesh, stop trolling.

    11. Vaultner Says:

      The Old Testament is jewish, however it was the jew who crucified Christ & denied him as the Savior. Forsaking their souls to the Devil eternally. Thereby leaving the true word of God to mankind (that being White people since the nigger is an ape animal & not belonging in the kingdom of man or God).

      Christianity brought about the end of Rome a goal of the jew. Rome was at the time much as America is now, unGodly. Yet it was reborn as the Holy Roman Empire to the chagrin of the jew I’m sure.

      Jesus was as critical of the jew as he was of Rome it was a an era of low morals. I think if he walked the Earth today we would all be very pleased to hear what he would say of the sad state of affairs the jew has brought us to again.

    12. Tim McGreen Says:

      JESUS NEVER EXISTED. He is a symbol of the sun and his dad represents the sky. His mom Mary represents the earth. They are symbols. THEY ARE NOT REAL.

      Christianity is the Greek version of a mystical, middle eastern form of Judaism, which, in turn, was based on earlier pagan savior-god religions. It was converted Greeks like Constantine and Theodosius who foisted their Levantine religion of Xianity on the rest of the Empire during the Fourth and Fifth Centuries. The New Testament was written by Greek Church officials in the Fourth Century and translated into Latin by the Fifth Century. But the Christian Bible as we have it now was not completed until the late Middle Ages.

      There. Case closed.

    13. Ein Says:

      “All the Catholic parishes of England and Wales will join, on September 13th, in the Sunday of Racial Justice, to coincide this year with the 25th anniversary of Carj, the Catholic Association for Racial Justice. The topic chosen for the 2009 Sunday of Racial Justice is “Changing the face of Great Britain and Ireland” …. From this perspective, for 25 years now Carj has been investing energies in fighting all forms of racism, by promoting laws and decrees against this plague that, despite everything, keeps existing. Therefore, we must double up our efforts to eradicate it from our society”.
        …………………………….

      Sickening. “This plague”???  Come now!   England is indeed suffering from a “plague”, but its name isn’t racism.
       
      I  knew that England — and the Catholic Church too,  ALL Christian churches  —  were far gone, but not this far gone.  I’m continually amazed. The illness is far advanced.    The sicker the patient gets, the more he’s told that he needs more doses  of the plague to cure him.   Every news item from that pathetic, infected, once-great island just gets worse and worse, and more incredible.   How much sicker can a patient get before he just expires completely?

      As CW2 said (very well), Christianity takes a dim view of suicide. However, they now applaud mass suicide in the form of national and racial extinction. Not only that, those mindless lemmings want everyone else to join them, and accuse you of being “sick” if you don’t.

      And as Vaultner said, “Christianity brought about the end of Rome — a goal of the jew. Rome was at the time much as America is now.”

      Exactly. Jewryfinally got even with Rome. And the British Empire, which the Jews have by now exploited, bled dry, and reduced to a lifeless shell, was in that same role just prior to the US. In each and every case, the Jews achieved their goal by internal subversion. What they couldn’t destroy from without, they destroy from within.

      In every case, they go directly for the seat of power, the heart — Rome, London, New York — and flood it with their tribesmen who become its journalists, lawyers, politicians. Within a few generations, like cuckoo birds planted in the nest, they have pushed out the old elite and replaced it with their own — even crafting laws which make that fact illegal to mention. And all the while pretending to represent your interests, while they are working at your destruction, assuring you that this is good for you. No, the only precept guiding them is “what’s good for the Jews”, not for you. This infection was already far advanced in the government and ruling circles, and now even in the churches.

      When will people ever learn? The “cuckoos” among you are not your own!”

    14. Joe McGee Says:

      Any debate regarding the ancient history of the Christian Church, is, in my opinion,
      a mute point. We live in the present tense, where Christianity worships the jew as
      “God’s Chosen” and the “Holy People of the Bible.”
      It teaches that all men are created equal, making no difference whatsoever among the
      races, equating nigger savages with Whites, while welcoming perverts of every persuasion with open arms reciting the moronic claim to “love the sinner, but hate the sin.” The Pope and his underlings champion mass immigration with the silly claim that “We are all God’s children,” obviously ignoring the fact that when their God created
      the world, he placed different races in different places around the world.
      If their “God” was truly all-knowing, he would have placed Somalians in Idaho, if they actually belonged to be there.

    15. Blackshirt Says:

      “Yeah, and that’s why the Jews want to get rid of Christianity everywhere they go, because it’s sooooo Jewish…LOL. Remember, the enemy of your enemy is your friend.”

      Illogical argument. Millions of Muslims in Europe hate Jews and consider them their “enemies”… so this makes these Muslims our “friends”? Wrong.

      “He was a former “Jew” as far as religion was concerned. But his race was white.”

      Pure CI bullshit. If you were a Jew in Ancient Israel, you were a SEMITE, not White.

      “But the people who follow “Judaism” today are totally different people. They are Khazars, a Turkish-Mongol people.”

      That is just the Ashkenazim. The Sephardim are pure Semites and are the other part of modern Jewry. These people are not White and have never been White, period.

      “Go back and study history.”

      I have a degree in it.

      “The Europeans were trading all over the world. That’s partly how they got rich and were able to create such incredible works of art. They knew what the people looked like.”

      True, some Europeans did travel and trade during the Dark Ages and Medieval period, but this wasn’t done on a great scale until the time of the Renaissance. Two exceptions to this were the Viking age and the Crusades. Regardless, your average European had very little contact with people outside of his own small community. Europeans who did have contact with Jews and painted them depicted them as the dirty Semites they always were. Here is a example: http://www.historyforkids.org/learn/religion/jews/middleages.htm

      “Wrong again. Northern Africa was populated entirely by Caucasoids and so was the Middle East. You sound like an Afrocentrist, on a white nationalist website!”

      You must be smoking some strong stuff. There weren’t “Whites” in North Africa until the Roman colonies, and then afterwards with the Vandal and other Germanic tribes invasions with the fall of the Roman Empire. Before that North Africa was solidly Phoenician and Egyptian, Semitic and Hamitic people respectively. The Middle East has always been populated by non-Whites.

      “Sheesh, stop trolling.”

      That’s funny coming from someone who just showed up here. Perhaps this is McReen posting under another name again, eh?

    16. Blackshirt Says:

      “JESUS NEVER EXISTED. He is a symbol of the sun and his dad represents the sky. His mom Mary represents the earth. They are symbols. THEY ARE NOT REAL.

      Christianity is the Greek version of a mystical, middle eastern form of Judaism, which, in turn, was based on earlier pagan savior-god religions. It was converted Greeks like Constantine and Theodosius who foisted their Levantine religion of Xianity on the rest of the Empire during the Fourth and Fifth Centuries. The New Testament was written by Greek Church officials in the Fourth Century and translated into Latin by the Fifth Century. But the Christian Bible as we have it now was not completed until the late Middle Ages.

      There. Case closed.”

      Absolutely correct, Tim. Christianity was a scam of a religion from the very beginning, just like the rest of the Jewish religion, plagiarized from their neighbors.

    17. Vaultner Says:

      McWeenie,

      “JESUS NEVER EXISTED. He is a symbol of the sun and his dad represents the sky. His mom Mary represents the earth. They are symbols. THEY ARE NOT REAL.”

      You sound like a jew.

      Jesus existed an anti jew in fact & for their crucifixion of him Hitler destroyed them in Europe.

      What the church has become today is an abomination of what was it was meant to be.

    18. Andrea Dworkin Says:

      Jesus was a guy from Galilee, a Gentile area back then. Every time he saw the Jews of his day he rebuked them as the sons of Satan they are.

      Even if you don’t believe that Jesus is the son of God, you can still learn from his teachings and example of treating others as you would like to be treated.

      Jews look for any way to destroy Christianity they can…even pretending that Christ was a Jew himself…

    19. Tim McGreen Says:

      “JESUS NEVER EXISTED……….”
      “You sound like a jew. ”

      No, Jews don’t deny that Jesus ever existed, V. They say he was the bastard son of a Roman soldier named Pantera, or that he was a heretical rabbi. I and other White people who have investigated the Jesus story say he never existed, not the Jews. His birth, miracles, teachings, crucifixion and resurrection are all symbolic, not literal events. The whole story is based on ancient myths about the cycle of the sun and the cycle of the seasons, as well as astrology and numerology.

      I wouldn’t mind if White people wanted to believe all that jive, except that in the Christian version of that ancient myth, gentiles are expected to worship a Jewish savior god and Jewish Bible heroes. Gentiles are supposed to forsake their families, hate their own lives, give away all their posessions they worked so hard for and have no more reverence for Nature and Reason. And they’re supposed to look forward to the day when their Jew god comes back to kill everyone and rule over the world from a rebuilt Jewish temple in Jerusalem.

      Well, forget it. Let the niggers and the wetbacks worship Haysoos. They love all that mystical superstition and voodoo-hoodoo. Christianity is for intellectual weaklings, mud people, superstitious little old ladies, queers and passive, self-hating Whites.

    20. Blackshirt Says:

      “Jesus was a guy from Galilee, a Gentile area back then. Every time he saw the Jews of his day he rebuked them as the sons of Satan they are.”

      From the “Jesus for Judaism” website:

      Jesus Was Jewish

      * Not only was Jesus Jewish by heritage, he was also an observant Jew, as was evidenced by his Synagogue attendance, observation of the Biblical Jewish feasts, and frequent quoting of Jewish scripture.
      * Jesus had a reverence for his Jewish heritage and went so far as to proclaim that, “Salvation is from the Jews.” [John 4:22]
      * Regarding The Law (the beneficial guidelines of Jewish life set forth in the Old Testament), Jesus said: “I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.” [Matthew 5:18 NIV] If you are reading this page, then it is likely that heaven and earth have not disappeared, and therefore, according to Jesus, Judaism is still of value to us today.
      * The life and teachings of Jesus challenged the people in his day to walk more deeply in their Jewish faith. When people would ask Jesus for advice, he would not quote Plato or Socrates, but consistently referred to the Jewish scriptures (the Old Testament) and Jewish life as a guide to those who wanted to know how to live. Jesus never told people to leave Jewish life in pursuit of another way of life or faith. He constantly sent them back to the Jewish scriptures and guided them in the Jewish way of life. Here are some examples of this from the New Testament:
      * ” “Now a man came up to Jesus and asked, “Teacher, what good thing must I do to get eternal life?” “Why do you ask me about what is good?” Jesus replied. “There is only One who is good. If you want to enter life, obey the commandments.” ” [Matthew 19:16-17 NIV]
      * “…go, show yourself to the priest and offer the sacrifices that Moses commanded for your cleansing, as a testimony to them.” [Matthew 8:4, Mark 1:44, Luke 5:14 NIV]
      * ” ‘Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one. Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: “Love your neighbor as yourself.’ All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.” [Mark 12:29 / Matthew 22:37-40 NIV]

      http://www.resourcesforlife.com/groups/jesusforjudaism/

      I will be happy to provide more quotes straight from the New Testament that prove Jesus was a Jew (that is if he ever existed). You are delusional if you say Jesus was a “gentile”.

    21. Tim McGreen Says:

      There are some people who are so deeply scarred by Christian brainwashing that they are literally terrified to let go of it. It’s a Jewish mind-control cult and those people will need to be de-programmed if they ever want to have some sanity in their lives.

    22. ZOG HATER! Says:

      “Anyone that tells you that the Ancient Israelites, Phoenicians, Egyptians, Sumerians, or other Middle Eastern peoples were blond haired, blue eyed Aryans is FULL OF SHIT.” – Blackshirt

      The Middle East was not always inhabited solely by Afro-Asiatics. Sumer and Egypt both were home to white populations. Dynastic Egypt was Hamitic but ruled by an Aryan aristocratic substratum from West Asia. Sumerians have been linked culturally/linguistically to Finno-Ugric groups, who are at least closely related to Aryans (i.e. Indo-Uralic) if not Aryans themselves. In any case, neither Sumer nor Egypt were Semitic.

    23. ZOG HATER! Says:

      Sorry, the tags above did not close properly.

    24. Edward Randolph Says:

      Jews would appear to be making a major tactical mistake by attempting to replace contemporary Christianity with secular humanism. Imagine, for instance, if Cromwell had been a Pagan rather than a Christian: an argument by a rabbi that Jews must migrate to the four corners of the earth would probably not have phased him.

      From a Jewish perspective, Christian scriptural references critical of Jews are no doubt unsettling, but mainstream Christian churches no longer emphasize these references. Now, leaving aside Christianity as a whole & concentrating on this contemporary “Judeo-Christianity” (wherein Jews tend to be regarded as “Chosen” rather than as a “Synagogue of Satan”), Jews have removed the support struts to a system which has hitherto privileged them… a system which riddles not just mainstream Whites but White Nationalists as well.

      There is an additional problem, namely that secular humanism is unlikely to fill the vacuum left by a departing religion. Anarchism would appear to function primarily as a sort of plasma/intermediate state between two oligarchies. In much the same way, secular humanism / organized Atheism does not so much set up a new system as simply deconstruct the old.

      The trope that Nature abhors a vacuum is likely to produce one of two reactions to secular humanism among White populations: a resurgence of Christianity or the emergence of another religion, perhaps Paganism & perhaps yet another Middle Eastern superstition. Knowing as one does the intense, almost frantic need which many people have for Religion (or at least its superstitious masses-diluted analogue) — & the inability of a mere deconstructive system to answer to that frantic need — one does not expect a “1000 year secular humanism”. Even were a prolonged secular humanism to hold sway for centuries, Jews would not necessarily fare any better in it than they did in the non-Christian Soviet countries during the latter’s administrative pogroms.

      Dechristianization Ho!

    25. Blackshirt Says:

      “There are some people who are so deeply scarred by Christian brainwashing that they are literally terrified to let go of it. It’s a Jewish mind-control cult and those people will need to be de-programmed if they ever want to have some sanity in their lives.”

      Yes Tim, you are right. Christians with racist tendencies want to have their cake and eat it too. They want to hold on to their Middle Eastern fairy tale and the promise of a wonderful afterlife and be racist at the same time. Problem is, Christian philosophy of “love thy enemy” and “turn the other cheek” is completely in opposition to the natural law that racism is based on.

      The media loves to play this contradiction to the hilt, especially with the traditional Klan types who love Jewsus and “hate them niggers”. I cringe every time I see some half-witted Klansmen try to dance around that contradiction. Lose the Christinsanity and there won’t be any contradiction.

      But those CI types love their Jewsus, though. They make up all sorts of fantasies about Jesus being an Aryan and “the real Jews” being the founders of the Germanic tribes, etc. to desperately try to link European civilization to the Hebrews. It’s so pathetic and completely out of touch with both reality and the archaeological record.

    26. ZOG HATER! Says:

      “It’s so pathetic and completely out of touch with both reality and the archaeological record.”

      But as I said, Blackshirt, there is evidence that Aryans lived in West Asia. And that they were instrumental in the creation of civilization in said region. Sumer and Harappa/Mohenjo-Daro were both likely Indo-Uralic. Egypt had an Aryan leadership component. Aryans and their Indo-Uralic cousins had far more to do with the Cradle of Civilization than Jews would like you to know. Or do you actually believe that Afro-Asiatics and other shitskins are capable of such invention?

    27. Tim McGreen Says:

      You can’t have it both ways. Either you are a racially concious White person who sees the world based on race, reason and objective reality or you are a Christian who believes that Blacks, Jews and Orientals are your brothers in Christ. According to the Bible, Jesus told his followers to spread the Gospel to the whole world, not just northwestern Europe.

      There is a theory that when the last Ice Age glaciers melted, the prehistoric Whites living along the Black Sea got flooded out and migrated south into Western Asia and east into Central Asia. If that’s true, then their descendants almost certainly built the great ancient empires of Egypt, Sumeria and Persia. It is a fact that White people lived in Central Asia for thousands of years before the Mongols, Turks and Mohammedans drove them out around 1200-1300 years ago.

    28. Blackshirt Says:

      ZOG Hater:

      To answer your question, I am aware of the ancient links in language and through cultural aspects to some areas in what would be called “West Asia” with Europe. Our alphabet and language structure can be traced back to ancient Sumer and ancient Persia. That doesn’t mean that these people were or are White. All ancient representations of Persians, Sumerians, Assyrians, Babylonians, etc. that I have seen depict curly black beards, stubby noses, and swarthy features. If you can present me with evidence proving otherwise I’d love to see it- ancient representations from archaeological finds, mind you.

      “Or do you actually believe that Afro-Asiatics and other shitskins are capable of such invention?”

      Sure, I’m not beyond giving credit where credit is due. The ancient people of the Middle East who weren’t White domesticated animals and plants, had the first cities and were responsible for the first writing. What’s wrong with acknowledging that?

    29. CW-2 Says:

      Any religion with a hidden agenda of supplanting the current devotees/followers of that faith and replacing them with a more malleable group isn’t worth following. If these churchmen are not malicious then they must be criminally insane to embrace the social programs we are witnessing.

      Commit mass suicide now and you will all get room up-grades in the celestial hotel!

    30. ZOG HATER! Says:

      “Our alphabet and language structure can be traced back to ancient Sumer and ancient Persia. That doesn’t mean that these people were or are White. All ancient representations of Persians, Sumerians, Assyrians, Babylonians, etc.”

      Persians were Aryan, at one point. Sumerians were perhaps not Aryan, rather Indo-Uralic, but were the progenitors of civilization. Assyrians and Babylonians were Semitic. I’m just trying to be precise here. When the ancestors of what you call the Persians and Sumerians entered the middle east, they were white. It is not impossible that they mixed with those who were already there, as Aryans did in India, thus giving rise to the middle eastern phenotype.

      “The ancient people of the Middle East who weren’t White domesticated animals and plants, had the first cities and were responsible for the first writing. What’s wrong with acknowledging that?”

      Sumer, the first city-states, were not Afro-Asiatic. This is a certainty which has been divined from, as I said, linguistic and cultural study. I’m contesting that non-whites were those who in fact invented civilization or for that matter domestication. For example, if Sumer were Aryan or near-Aryan (very likely), then it is likely that said domestication was prior to this achieved by peoples who were Aryan or near-Aryan rather than Afro-Asiatic. Not to mention, I have seen no contemporary evidence which convinces me that Afro-Asiatics could have been progenitors of civilization.

    31. Tim McGreen Says:

      Blackshirt is being very fair about parcelling out well-deserved credit. But I still suspect that the ruling class or ruling caste of those ancient civilizations were White. It’s the exact same thing that’s going on now in Latin America, ie, a small, White ruling class in charge of a continent full of Mestizoes and Indians. Those great ancient civilizations only fell after their leaders began mixing with the native-born inferiors or allowing the Jews to take control.

    32. ZOG HATER! Says:

      “But I still suspect that the ruling class or ruling caste of those ancient civilizations were White.”

      *Sigh*

      There’s no fucking “suspect” about it! There were Aryans in west Asia for Christ’s sakes, and anthropology and archaeology have proven that! The only reason we don’t hear more about it is because the science must be Kosher-sanitized before it’s released – and the Yids wouldn’t want it to come out that Aryans/Indo-Uralics and not Afro-Asiatics were the true creators of civilization.

      I.E. Sumerian is an agglutinative language like Finnic and Hungarian. But the Kosher academics say “there’s no ties to any known language” even though Sumerian is not only similar to Uralic in structure but also shares many word roots! Similarly, artifacts across Asia attest to an Indo-Uralic diaspora that fits chronologically. And there is more evidence with regards to this hypothesis which I cannot get into for time’s sake.

      I.E. Egyptian hieroglyphs show the warrior elite and priestly caste as individuals with light skin and occasionally red or blond hair. Remains of the Pharoahs show some dolicocephalic and fair-haired individuals. Afro-Asiatics of pure blood never have such a phenotype. And there’s much more evidence for this too. That Aryans dwelt in Egypt, indeed as the aristocracy, is not in doubt.

      I am not saying that these societies were solely white, in fact I find it doubtful that any of them were solely white. But there was a white, Aryan influence in the first civilizations which emerged in western Asia and North Africa, this much is not worth arguing about it sits on such solid ground.

    33. Ein Says:

      Sigh. I thought this topic was supposed to be about churches in England and the race-replacement of the English population.

      Yet, here we are (again, as usual) back to bickering over the Middle East, Sumer, Semites, Persia, Hebrews, was Jesus really a Jew?, etc., etc.

      Who cares? Evidently, the racial composition of the ME thousands of years ago is of much more concern than that of Europe today.

      For God’s sake! Let’s get this sick Middle Eastern obsession out of our heads! And this Hebraic hangup that still plagues us. The Jews have so skewed our entire culture and our mental outlook that we are accustomed to seeing everything through a Middle Eastern/Semitic lens. We are only allowed to see history through their eyes. According to that view, the ME (ie.Semites) is the center of civilization, the ME(ie. Semites) is the center of the world, the ME (ie.Semites) is the mother of all things wonderful. And of us, as well!

      We need to drop that distorting lens and see life on our own terms and see our own position on this earth — not as it relates to someone else, or their pfrimitive superstitions, or their ancient tribal holy book.

    34. Blackshirt Says:

      “I am not saying that these societies were solely white, in fact I find it doubtful that any of them were solely white. But there was a white, Aryan influence in the first civilizations which emerged in western Asia and North Africa, this much is not worth arguing about it sits on such solid ground.”

      I can agree with that statement to a certain extent, although I wouldn’t go so far as to say these civilizations existed BECAUSE white Aryans founded them or were the leaders, etc. The mummies of Urumqi in Western China were Caucasoid, but there is no evidence they founded or were the driving force in Chinese civilization. Just as there were bands of marauding Mongols and Tartars extending at times into Eastern and Central Europe, finding evidence of Mongoloids in those areas wouldn’t necessarily mean that they founded or influenced European civilization.

      As I have stated before ZOG hater, I would like to see some evidence (archaeological representations- frescoes, statues, reliefs) that depict Aryan Sumerians, Egyptians, etc. as having Aryan features. I have only seen representations that show non-white features. All Sumerian representations of male figures that I have seen have Semitic-type (I’m not sure if they were Semites, but the representations look Semitic) features, especially almond-shaped eyes, and black curly beards.

    35. Blackshirt Says:

      Ein says:

      “For God’s sake! Let’s get this sick Middle Eastern obsession out of our heads! And this Hebraic hangup that still plagues us.”

      I AGREE! Yes, let’s get rid of this “Middle Eastern obsession”. And the first thing to be done is to get this bastard Middle Eastern religion called Christianity out of our people’s heads so they can think clearly about race and nature! The root of our problems can be traced back back to this neurotic, weak-worshiping, religion that was forced on many of our ancestors by sword point hundreds of years ago. You would not have had Jewish infiltration of our societies if it weren’t for Christianity opening the door to them, nor would you have had Bolshevism or Marxism if it weren’t for the doctrines of Christianity that laid the groundwork for Egalitarianism. Get rid of Christinsanity!

    36. Blackshirt Says:

      “The Jews have so skewed our entire culture and our mental outlook that we are accustomed to seeing everything through a Middle Eastern/Semitic lens. We are only allowed to see history through their eyes. According to that view, the ME (ie.Semites) is the center of civilization, the ME(ie. Semites) is the center of the world, the ME (ie.Semites) is the mother of all things wonderful. And of us, as well!”

      That is because for the past thousand years and then some our people have had only the Jewish holy book (the bible) to read, study, and use as a reference. Instead of learning about the glory of Arminius, German children were taught to look up to swarthy Hebrews like Job, Jacob, and Moses for hundreds of years. The first book printed on a printing press was the bible. Our people have been forced to look through a Jewish lens for all this time, so how can we be surprised when they see things from a Jewish perspective? This is why it is so important to weed this mental illness Christianity out of our people’s consciousness. Only then will you eliminate “Jew think”.

    37. Spaceman Says:

      Seriously, can we can the Christianity debate crap? If any WN wants to be an Xtian, fine, more power to you. All I know is that there was a time when We Whites had our own religion, “pagan” as the Xtians call it, before the Jewsus religion was thrust upon us. Like I said, I really dont care if any WN wants to be a Jesus follower. If they can somehow make it work with WN values, great. All I know is, from what I have read, the Christian religion is essentially anti-nature, anti-logic and anti-White survival. Yes, the jews have great hatred toward Christianity, but it has been a very useful tool for them. A double edged sword, if you will. As much as they hate Jesus, the “love and accept everyone” doctrine has greatly helped their quest to destroy White nations. “Love your enemy?” Piss on that.

    38. Tim McGreen Says:

      ZOG Hater, you’re a jerk. I don’t care how many fancy terms like Turko-Uralgic or Hamitic-Fibromyalgic you use, you’re still a self-important BORE.

      Blackshirt, no matter how articulate, cogent or persuasive your arguments against Christ-insanity are, I’m afraid they’re falling on deaf ears (Or in this case, deaf eyes?). One cannot reason with a person when it comes to religious issues. The irrational belief in some kind of a god who’s constantly watching you and waiting for you to fuck things up so he can pounce all over you is an unfortunate side-effect or downside to the power of human imagination. We need to embrace logic and reason at all times, not Semitic spook-in-the-sky superstition, if we’re going to defeat Big Jew and his army of Gentile mercenaries. Let the Identity Christards form their own resistance army and see where it gets them.

    39. ZOG HATER! Says:

      ZOG Hater, you’re a jerk. I don’t care how many fancy terms like Turko-Uralgic or Hamitic-Fibromyalgic you use, you’re still a self-important BORE.

      I’d prefer being a jerk and a bore who is precise and accurate to being a boorish prick who hasn’t any respect for science, like you. Indo-Uralic is an accepted term, as is Hamitic. If you cannot comprehend this or think distinguishing isn’t important, then you obviously haven’t the intellect to consider this matter anyway. In short, fuck you.

    40. Tim McGreen Says:

      OK, now that I’ve exposed you for the pompous, pretentious, know-nothing twerp you really are, you resort to the last rhetorical refuge of the scoundrel, ie, the old fuck-you. Well, how can I respond to such a clever rejoinder as that? I guess you’re some kind of anthropologist MANQUE? Fine, just don’t forget to change the oil in the Fry-O-lator before the end of your shift, Margaret Mead.

    41. ZOG HATER! Says:

      OK, now that I’ve exposed you for the pompous, pretentious, know-nothing twerp you really are,

      You exposed nothing, save in your own mind.

      you resort to the last rhetorical refuge of the scoundrel, ie, the old fuck-you.

      Well, no, actually the last refuge of the scoundrel is censorship. And I welcome opinions. Even from village idiots like you.

      Well, how can I respond to such a clever rejoinder as that?

      Frankly, I couldn’t care.

      I guess you’re some kind of anthropologist MANQUE?

      Qualifieder-than-thou.

      Fine, just don’t forget to change the oil in the Fry-O-lator before the end of your shift, Margaret Mead.

      Of course, my anthropology has nothing to do with Mead’s. But in your desire to insult me there is no low you won’t stoop to. Are you sure you aren’t Jewish?

    42. Ein Says:

      “The root of our problems can be traced back back to this neurotic, weak-worshiping, religion that was forced on many of our ancestors by sword point hundreds of years ago.
      You would not have had Jewish infiltration of our societies if it weren’t for Christianity opening the door to them”

      On that point I can’t resist mentioning that Charlemagne, who waged a vicious 30-year war against the pagan Saxons, practiced a policy of conversion by the sword. It was Christianity or death for the Saxons, and he killed many thousands who refused to convert. (We often hear this said about Islam, but Christianity was just as ruthless in making converts.)

      Significantly, it was also Charlemagne who opened the door to Europe and invited the Jews to come in. Europe has been suffering from both Christianity and Jews ever since.

      Sorry to say it, but that’s just the way it was.

    43. ZOG HATER! Says:

      “now that I’ve exposed you for the pompous, pretentious, know-nothing twerp you really are,”

      How? By demonstrating absolutely no understanding of the subject at hand? Strange exposition, that.

    44. Blackshirt Says:

      Tim, I appreciate the agreement and support, but I don’t think ZOG Hater was being a jerk. He was actually having a reasoned debate with me and keeping it on a civil level unlike others who I’ve encountered here.

    45. Lone Star Says:

      “You can’t have it both ways. Either you are a racially concious White person who sees the world based on race, reason and objective reality or you are a Christian who believes that Blacks, Jews and Orientals are your brothers in Christ.”

      False dichotomy. Nice try. Our God is a God of order, not disorder. Mutlicult is chaos, ergo, not Biblical. Nation = race. God demanded that the ancient Israelites keep their race pure. They didn’t listen.

      Christianity can work with white nationalism. Hatred of other races is stupid, but that doesn’t mean we have to live together. Jews love to promote hatred of all types, so we don’t concentrate on them. But a white only society would still have plenty of criminals and losers that need to be dealt with.

      “One cannot reason with a person when it comes to religious issues.”

      We were talking anthropology, not CI.

      “We need to embrace logic and reason at all times, not Semitic spook-in-the-sky superstition, if we’re going to defeat Big Jew and his army of Gentile mercenaries. Let the Identity Christards form their own resistance army and see where it gets them.”

      You should follow your own advice. Logic and reason would tell you that Christianity is good and that there were white people in the Middle East, North Africa and Asia Minor. They are not the same as the white people as in Europe, but they are white.

      BTW, Christianity built the West that you pretend to be fighting so valiantly for, so the ones who reject Christianity are the tards and not being very logical. Christianity is here to stay and you need to win these people over to your racial views. Someone with “logic” would recognize that.

      “The root of our problems can be traced back back to this neurotic, weak-worshiping, religion that was forced on many of our ancestors by sword point hundreds of years ago.”

      Stop using Christianity as a scapegoat. The problem with whites is their laziness and desire for slaves. Every time we build a great society, the slaves show up and the whites get lazy. That is the root of our problem, not Christianity.

      “Like I said, I really dont care if any WN wants to be a Jesus follower. If they can somehow make it work with WN values, great.”

      Exactly.

      “As much as they hate Jesus, the “love and accept everyone” doctrine has greatly helped their quest to destroy White nations. “Love your enemy?” Piss on that.”

      The laziness of whites and their need for slaves is the problem. The Jews are the problem, since they recognize this and bring the slaves whenever possible, since it fits their agenda. The “love your neighbor” doctrine does not and never included cultural suicide. Blaming Christianity for our present predicament is no different than blaming Capitalism, Democracy or any other system. The reality is much more simple.

      “I have only seen representations that show non-white features.”

      You’re studying afrocentric materials that the Jews push. Here’s a blog for some quick reference. Look at the articles on the “Top Posts” on the right hand side:

      http://mathildasanthropologyblog.wordpress.com/

      Picture of the mummy of Queen Hatshepsut of Egypt. She has red hair.

      http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_ERGrznxTIwo/RoK54XvD_vI/AAAAAAAAEqo/7XymTpEzjY0/s400/queen+hatshepsut.jpg

      “I am not saying that these societies were solely white, in fact I find it doubtful that any of them were solely white. ”

      You’d be surprised. I suspect that they were solely white. It wouldn’t make sense any other way. No society is born from multiculturalism. For instance, Libya was totally white at one time.

    46. CW-2 Says:

      Lots of interesting postings here, but none offering any ideas how we can refute these multi-culti lies. Many white middle class families still regularly attend their local church on a Sunday. The minister has a captive audience for a hour or so and gives a jew-approved sermon on the desirability of diversity or similar BS. He may even have a collection for Somali ‘refugees’.
      There is nothing to stop us attending, and when the minister is ranting about racism, stand up and say loudly that he is talking through his ass! I bet the minister won’t know what to say, and will give the White congregation something to think about, well at least talk about.

      The fist time will take some balls, but it should be a lot of fun!

    47. Tim McGreen Says:

      “Tim, I appreciate the agreement and support, but I don’t think ZOG Hater was being a jerk.”

      ******************************************************
      That POSEUR told me to go fuck myself! How should I have responded? “Thank you sir, may I have another?” Civility is humbug, sir, HUMBUG.

    48. Tim McGreen Says:

      Allright then, LoneStar, which version of Christianity does your Christian God of Order and Unity want us to use so that we may better worship him? Coptic Christianity? Roman Catholicism? Seventh-Day Adventist? Essenism? Gnosticism? I imagine there are some kind of prescribed set of rituals and beliefs that must be adhered to in order to properly worship the Lord Jesus, so which Christian church/denomination has them? Surely they can’t all be right, can they?

      Good luck trying to answer that one, Tex.

    49. Lone Star Says:

      “Many white middle class families still regularly attend their local church on a Sunday. The minister has a captive audience for a hour or so and gives a jew-approved sermon on the desirability of diversity or similar BS.”

      True, and schools, government, and media preach a Jew approved multicult message. The problem is not with Christianity, government or schools, but the Jew who infiltrates our institutions to spread their message and whites too lazy to fight back. Most church sermons never get into a multicult message. It’s a personal faith and there’s a lot of freedom in what you believe apart from a few basic principles.

      “He may even have a collection for Somali ‘refugees’.”

      Only in the crazy Evangelical Zionist mega churches. Most mainline churches are not this shameless. But multicult is not part of the sermons. You get more multicult preaching from schools and TV than from church. Non Christians are the ones who get confused, because they think that “love your neighbor” means “let people in your country to destroy you.” The OT has a clear immigration policy.

      “The fist time will take some balls, but it should be a lot of fun!”

      I don’t think it needs to be that confrontational. But it is something to start talking about with other Christians. Many Christians have no problem with so called “racism,” since it is condoned in the Bible. But they are too scared to express it, just like most everybody else. The racial mixing message comes from all areas of our society. But the church does not promote it as much as people think, at least not from the pulpit.

      “which version of Christianity does your Christian God of Order and Unity want us to use so that we may better worship him?”

      It doesn’t matter. The point is that whites were in a lot of areas, such as the Middle East, and Christianity and WN are not adversaries. The OT preaches a message of racial purity, but the Church will not discuss it or thinks it only applies to Jews. Racial mixing is not good for any race, including the white race.

    50. Fr. John Says:

      “Anyone that tells you that the Ancient Israelites, Phoenicians, Egyptians, Sumerians, or other Middle Eastern peoples were blond haired, blue eyed Aryans is FULL OF SHIT.”

      Sorry Blackshirt, I believe the shit level is up to your armpits, that’s why your name exemplifies both your stupidity and your unwillingness to realize that the Bible is the record of ONE PEOPLE, of ONE RACE, about ONE PLAN of SALVATION FOR THAT ONE PEOPLE.

      A few of my columns on the subject. Since I am NOT ‘officially’ a CI devotee, but am willing to look at their POV’s, I would venture to state that they have far more solid ground to stand on, than you do.

      http://thewhitechrist.wordpress.com/2009/09/17/the-idiotic-beliefs-that-undergird-modernity/

      http://thewhitechrist.wordpress.com/2009/09/14/an-uncomfortable-truth/

      http://thewhitechrist.wordpress.com/2009/03/02/cain’s-groaning-and-tears-–-a-symbol-for-lent/

    51. Ein Says:

      “The fist time will take some balls, but it should be a lot of fun!”

      I don’t think it needs to be that confrontational. But it is something to start talking about with other Christians.
      …………………………..

      On that point I can certainly agree with Tex. (Otherwise, I agree and disagree about 50/50 with his comments. Some are doctrinaire, some are reasoned.)

      I agree that to stand up and contradict the priest or minister, in his church, and with obscene language no less, will only make a big fool out of you and will alienate all the rest of the congregation. You will have made no friends and many enemies. You will become a pariah. You (and your views along with you) will look idiotic. Is that your goal?

      There are better ways of handling it. Perhaps a patient, reasoned letter explaining your objections. Or a serious conversation with him after the service. Or letting him know in a firm way that there will be no more financial contributions forthcoming if he keeps up this line. Or, even better, if can you get a group of like-minded people to go with you to confront him. Alone, you may look like a crank, but there is power in a group.

      Religions, despite all their lofty talk about spirituality, are in the end very concerned about money. That’s what keeps the electric lights on and the organ running, and puts food on the minister’s table and pays his gas. Threaten to cut the money off, and he’s going to think twice. If a group of you can do it together, he’s likely to change his tune, or at least hold his tongue. Unless he’s a complete fanatic beyond the reach of reason, he’s not going to bite the hand that feeds him.

    52. Andrea Dworkin Says:

      for Blackshirt(more like yellow star shirt)

      Jesus threw the Jewish money changers out of the temple, he also called the Jews the Synagogue of Satan…

      John 8:42-48

      John 8:42-48 (King James Version)

      42Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.

      43Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.

      44Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

      45And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.

      46Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me?

      47He that is of God heareth God’s words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.

      48Then answered the Jews, and said unto him, Say we not well that thou art a Samaritan, and hast a devil?

      http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%208:42-48&version=KJV

    53. Blackshirt Says:

      “Lone Star” I strongly suspect you are McReen, but I’ll counter your arguments regardless.

      “Logic and reason would tell you that Christianity is good”

      Depends on what you define as “good”. If your idea of good is millions of White people helping Africans to live longer through missionary work, or White people striving to be “Christ-like” (weak and Jewish), then I guess Christianity is “good”. I don’t think it’s good, and I’ve listed more than enough reasons to feel that way.

      “BTW, Christianity built the West that you pretend to be fighting so valiantly for, so the ones who reject Christianity are the tards and not being very logical.”

      Christianity didn’t build the Roman, Greek, or Celtic civilizations. What came after those great civilizations did so IN SPITE of Christianity. Ever hear of the Dark Ages? Why were they “dark”? I’ll tell you why, because Christianity stifled science and learning, and it took over a thousand years for the west to RECOVER with the Renaissance, which was a rediscovery of ancient learning. Imagine what the White race could have accomplished without Christianity! We may have been to the moon in the 1500s instead of the 20th century. Christianity has CONFINED and STUNTED the growth of the White race, not helped it.

      “Christianity and WN are not adversaries.”

      ARE YOU KIDDING ME? Christianity is directly in opposition to Natural Law, so how can it NOT be an adversary to racism? You cannot advocate the “meek inheriting the earth” and believe in racism, which is based on Eugenics and the philosophy of might makes right. If you try to be a Christian and a racist at the same time you look like a HYPOCRITE.

      “The OT preaches a message of racial purity, but the Church will not discuss it or thinks it only applies to Jews.”

      OF COURSE it only applies to Jews! The bible is JEWISH, and even Socrates states the Old Testament is Jewish in what he wrote at the top of the page. I’m amazed that you actually believe what you are writing.

    54. Blackshirt Says:

      ““Tim, I appreciate the agreement and support, but I don’t think ZOG Hater was being a jerk.”

      ******************************************************
      That POSEUR told me to go fuck myself! How should I have responded? “Thank you sir, may I have another?” Civility is humbug, sir, HUMBUG.”

      Tim, I agree with just about everything you say and I have supported you here. With that said, you started the thing with ZOG Hater by calling him a “bore” and a “jerk”. Then he said “fuck you”. He was only responding to what you said about him. That is why I said I didn’t believe he was a “jerk”. I don’t want to get into a debate over this, so let’s just focus on the topic here and avoid a flame war.

    55. Blackshirt Says:

      “Andrea Dworkin” JESUS (if he existed) was a JEW!

      Right from your JEWISH bible:

      Luke 2:21 “Eight days later, at the baby’s CIRCUMCISION ceremony, he was named Jesus”

      HE WAS CIRCUMCISED! The only people circumcised in ancient times were Jews.

      You yourself admit that he preached in the temple- the JEWISH temple! If he weren’t Jewish, what was he doing teaching in the temple? The evidence is right there in your bible. Obviously if you can’t accept that the god and his son that you worship on bent knees is a JEW you are the lowest form of moron.

    56. Ein Says:

      Oh, boy! Is this boring! When will people get over bickering about what [supposedly] happened two thousand years ago in another part of the world among a superstitious tribe of people who shouldn’t be of any interest to us?

      Meanwhile, 2000 churches in England are “rallying against racism”. Does anyone care? Europe is going down the tubes and no one here seems to notice.

    57. Blackshirt Says:

      Ein, the problem is that some of our people are desperately holding on to a religion that is working night and day towards the destruction of their race and they don’t want to admit it. So, when the Catholic churches in England do what they are doing now, White people who are Christians come out of the woodwork wringing their hands and lamenting what is happening. But despite all the evidence laid out in front of them that Christianity is an insidious cult that works against their natural instincts of preservation, they hold on to it for dear life, instead of turning on it.

      What is happening to Europe and the rest of the White world today has it’s roots in hundreds of years of altruistic, egalitarian church teachings. Pointing out the “Jewishness” of the bible can help bring White Christians to a point where they finally have the strength to look at Christinsanity for what it really is.

    58. Tim McGreen Says:

      I for one do not find this thread or the postings contained therein to be boring. Christianity has gotten away with far too much over the past 1600 years and it needs to be held up to intense scrutiny before it causes any more mischief. From burning Hugenots at the stake to the sacking of Constantinople, from the Civil Wrongs campaign to the forced conversion of the New World Indians to Catholicism, from the destruction of the Library at Alexandria to the undermining of Nazi authority in Germany, from demanding that muds be allowed to immigrate to Europe and America to protecting child molesting priests and pastors, Christianity is and always has been BAD NEWS.

    59. Sri Sreggin Das, Mystic Yogi of the Kali Yuga Says:

      We do not “think” God; God “thinks” us!

    60. Tom McReen Says:

      Christian WNs getting the blame for the disruption caused by the anti-Christian trolls? Funny.

      “JESUS NEVER EXISTED. He is a symbol of the sun and his dad represents the sky. His mom Mary represents the earth. They are symbols. THEY ARE NOT REAL.”

      Someone’s been watching Zeitgeist. Even the 9/11 truthers have woken up to that NWO-loving piece of crap.

      “Lone Star” I strongly suspect you are McReen, but I’ll counter your arguments regardless.”

      Nope, paranoia on your part. Now stop trying to act like other posters here are trolls, we all know the company you keep, at least two of them are banned.

      Reading the proclamations of our self-appointed anonymous internet leaders ‘Blackshirt’ and Mike ‘Tim McGreen’ Jahn is the duller than anything else.

    61. Blackshirt Says:

      As usual, McWeenie has nothing to add except insults and insinuation. I wonder why Socrates allows him to remain here. There are a couple of possibilities, but I’d love to know why McReen can get away with the shit he gets away with without a peep from the management. Could Socrates agree with McReen’s views? Does McReen have some kind of personal connection with Linder? Is McReen making “donations”?

    62. Curt O'brian Says:

      So this gay man is taking your name there Tom minus a letter change.

    63. Blackshirt Says:

      It is so amusing to see Curt/Tom talk to himself!

    64. Tim McGreen Says:

      “Gay man?”…..You’re such a Politically-Correct douche, Tom/Curt. Do you refer to Negroes as “African Americans”? Annoyed because I use a sort-of-Irish-sounding name, too? You’re up to no good, McCreen/O’Brien, no good at all……………..

    65. Sri Sreggin Das, Mystic Yogi of the Kali Yuga Says:

      Minnows make much noise in shallow water, but in deep water even the whale passes silently.

    66. Ege Says:

      The Catholic Church is ZOG.

    67. Tim McGreen Says:

      As Ben Franklin said, Fart Proudly!

    68. Chris Says:

      Surely, ‘ Judeo-Christian ‘, referring to that branch of Christianity here in USA, is a term deliberately coined to tie Judaism with Christianity to benefit, perhaps, by association, in US, at least, the American Jews. In fact, that which is called ‘ Christianity ‘ today has little to do with Christ, rather it owes more to St. Paul ( AKA, Saul of Taursus pre the Damascene event) who imported a lot of the Old Testament stuff into that new Church which, thereby, became, theologically-speaking, mongrolised.

    69. Ken Hallowell Says:

      Too much talk,
      too little shooting.