7 November, 2009

Government Health-Care Plan Will Cover Illegal Aliens

Posted by Socrates in anti-White themes, Congress, General Decline, health, health care, jewed Congress, Socrates at 11:05 am | Permanent Link

What a great way for the government to further curb the power of White people: tax them heavily to pay for the health care plan, and at the same time give millions of non-Whites a financial boost by paying for their health care. Whites lose money, muds gain money, so to speak:

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  7. 95 Responses to “Government Health-Care Plan Will Cover Illegal Aliens”

    1. old dutch Says:

      This maybe over-stated, and partisan, but, if only partially true it’s bad news: http://republicans.waysandmeans.house.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=153583

    2. joe from oh Says:

      Surprise. Surprise. Surprise.

      Not at all to anyone even remotely racially aware. The jewcongress strikes again in favor of muds to the detriment of Whites. It is their long standing modus operandi.

      Amerikwa will not only continue to welcome a needless and endless supply of hotwalkers, dishwashers and bean pickers, but will be footing the bill for their health care as well.

      The real shame of it is that the race traitors who support these policies won’t be around to share in the certain poverty that their actions will necessarily create.

    3. Doug Says:

      I’ve just been reading the “tweets” of Marilyn Mach vos Savant (highest IQ woman in the world), and she seems to be wholesome and supporting of limited govt. Didn’t know that she’s a descendent of Ernst Mach the German physicist. Here’s one recently about the health care bill:
      “Americans want health-care reform, but they won’t like the result when it happens on the federal level. Authority will be even more remote.”

      “Was reading how people don’t trust the media. No kidding! When I read stories I know the truth about, I see how seriously goofy things are.”

      “Reading the news is a constant reminder that what we call history is a terribly–and I do mean terribly–subjective chronicle of events.”

      “Toy marketing has become ridiculous. If it were honest, most of the packaging would read, “Just plain fun–no educational value whatsoever.”
      http://twitter.com/VirtualMvS

    4. Tim McGreen Says:

      A single-payer plan is the only kind of health-care system that is going to work. But Barry Obongo is just as beholden to Big Insurance and Big Pharma as every other scumbag politician. A single-payer plan would require no more than 3 or 4 pages to explain, unlike the big complicated and confusing mess that Banjo Lips is proposing.

      And to think that just a few years ago he told an audience of healthcare activists that if they elected Democrats to control the Congress and the White House, then they could have a single-payer healthcare system. Goddam lying coon. I’m starting to hate him even more than I hate GW Bush. And I never thought I could hate anyone more than GW Bush.

    5. Tim McGreen Says:

      And of course any ObongoCare proposal would automatically include coverage for non-human invaders. That’s a given. Currently there are at least 20 million illegal vermin feeding at the US taxpayers’ teat.

      Obongo is starting to look as if he’s in way over his burr-head. But if he loses the next election, who replaces him? Bobby Jhindal and Sarah Palin? Newt Gingrich? Another scion of the Bush Dynasty, perhaps? How much longer is this farce of International Zionist Jewocracy called The United States going to last?

    6. Andrea Dworkin Says:

      There are a lot of worthless flunkies working in the healthcare industry in call centers, claims centers and filing centers…it would be great to get rid of them and shed their salaries from our insurance costs…

    7. Tim McGreen Says:

      You’re right, Andrea, hospitals and healthcare-related businesses are bulging with administration, bureaucracy and other useless non-medical personnel, all of whom expect to be well-paid for shuffling papers, yakking on the phone and clicking their mouse on a mousepad for several hours a day, 5 days a week.

    8. Irma Grese Says:

      See I would have NO PROBLEM with a Canadian, British or French-style national health system AS LONG AS IT WAS IN AN ALL-WHITE STATE. But here in the ‘Kwa?? Most of the money’s just going to go to the care and upkeep of nogs, spics kikes and AIDS infected fags!

    9. Adam Says:

      This is essentially just another welfare program, and the usual catches and bureaucratic sneaky business will apply. It will be phrased in non-racial terms, but the result will be horrific discrimination against white people. For example, you can count on not being able to access free care unless you are flat broke and have no assets. Thus, the typical urban nigger and wetback illegal alien will qualify for free care at the expense of whites, while whites, who almost always have some money and assets, will have to pay again anyway, just as they are doing now.

      A gov’t-run health system will also be used to get around the 2nd Amendment (guns are dangerous to public health and must be subject to additional controls will be the excuse) and regulate everything from food (restaurants and supermarkets will not be allowed to sell “unhealthy” food) to such personal items as whether a participant is overweight or not. It will give them carte blanche to intrude on all aspects of life.

      Not incidentally or less important is the fact that when this becomes law, ZOG — the same gov’t that is trying to KILL your race, white man — is going to be making all of your medical decisions. Everything from which doctor you get to see (Guess who gets to see the best doctors? Not YOU, that’s for sure!) to which treatments will be provided and when will be decided by Shaniqua down at the gov’t medical insurance office. When keeping you alive stops being cost-effective, the Shaniqua gonna pull the plug on yo’ raciss ass, too.

      Those who are think they want a gov’t-run health care system are either very naïve, antis, Jews, communists, or some of the stupidest people on the face of the planet. Or maybe all of those things.

    10. Tim McGreen Says:

      As exemplified by the above post (8 November 2:35 am), the White Struggle is weighted down with paranoid, reactionary, right-wing Capitalist con-servatives. No wonder the Struggle never fucking gets anywhere. I guess we should eliminate Interstate highways, the Post Office, public libraries and public universities, as they are all obviously part of a sinister Left-Wing Socialist Conspiracy. I think some people around here are too enamored of Ayn Rand and Milton Friedman, if you ask me. They’ve got a case of JewThink and are too goddamned dumb or stubborn to realize it.

      So by all means, let’s return to the good old days, when factory owners hired off duty cops and other goony types to bust the skulls of Union organizers. When 10 year old girls worked in textile mills and 10 year old boys worked in coal mines. When disposessed families slept under bridges and in Hoovervilles. When the richest 3% owned 80% of all the wealth. When the rich could keep their sons out of the Draft. When Big Business called the shots and purchased the politicians who would do their bidding. When the Railroads imported Chinks to come over here and work for a fraction of what a White worker would be paid. When employees had to work 10-12 hours a day with no benefits or job security for 25 cents an hour. When orphaned kids had to live out on the street and sleep in railroad freight cars.

      Right-wing assholes.

    11. Tim McGreen Says:

      I seem to recall that Germany had some kind of Government between the years 1933-1945 where the people had national healthcare and other Government benefits, but at the same time had the right to bear arms. But maybe I’m just imagining things……….

    12. J. Giles Gevalt Says:

      Right! The good ole’, bad ole’ days. The Swiss defined nostalgia as an actual mental illness. And that’s the trouble with most in the “movement”..they wish to return to what’s been and can never be again. They’ve either got poor memories or things were really swell for them all through their youth and young adulthood. I personally don’t wish to go back, there’s too much we could not see, too much that I didn’t know.

      There’s no bigger exercize in futility than longing for the past-may as well waste time at prayer. Cyclical thinking is Oriental..the Western ideal is the looking forward.

      Here’s something old..and forward-looking. One of Ian Hunter’s best songs-put to Swedish maritime imagery. A nice change from the links to neo-con fritesites.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9Res3dxeAU&fmt=18

    13. Tom McReen Says:

      “It will be phrased in non-racial terms, but the result will be horrific discrimination against white people.”

      Correct but Timmy doesn’t care as long as it’s not Conservative and ‘right-wing’. Timmy, lay off the new sock puppets who conveniently agree with you and share a very similar writing style.

      “Thus, the typical urban nigger and wetback illegal alien will qualify for free care at the expense of whites, while whites, who almost always have some money and assets, will have to pay again anyway, just as they are doing now.”

      It’s another ticket to steal from the already over-burdened White man. It’s beyond outdated arguments about ‘capitalism v socialism’.

      “Right-wing, reactionary, Conservative, big business, hate GW Bush, big pharma, big insurance, the struggle, right-wing assholes, mentally ill, paranoid”

      When I read all that I think I’m reading the Huffington Post or an Cold War-era edition of Pravda.

    14. Kuda Bux Says:

      “See I would have NO PROBLEM with a Canadian, British or French-style national health system AS LONG AS IT WAS IN AN ALL-WHITE STATE.’

      Fine, so long as no one is forced to participate.

    15. Doug Says:

      “The Swiss defined nostalgia as an actual mental illness.”

      I agree. I understand why the jews wanted homosexuality not to be classified as a mental illness, because the more mental illnesses there are, the narrower the classification of what a healthy mind should think, thus opening society up to jewish mental deconstruction. Nostalgia and sentimentalism is indeed a mental ailment. The past no longer exists except for the knowledge it can provide us and the infrastructure that exists. Sentimentalism is a passive mindset focused on the unchangeable. One should always foster a future-oriented mentality. “How will this decision improve my/white people’s future”? This is the personal decision making we should all have.

      The past is a tool, but no longer a leader.

    16. Adam Says:

      Doug Says:

      One should always foster a future-oriented mentality. “How will this decision improve my/white people’s future”?

      Okay. How will whites turning over all control of their medical issues to a gov’t run by an intensely hostile non-white minority (aka ZOG) improve their future?

      Please explain, ‘cuz I don’t get it.

    17. Irma Grese Says:

      Okay. How will whites turning over all control of their medical issues to a gov’t run by an intensely hostile non-white minority (aka ZOG) improve their future?

      Well that’s the thing Adam – it wont improve their futures until the mudhaus is overthrown, the Reich set up and an all-White state is born! When that happens I will have NO problem with National Health, public education spending, strengthening the Social Security system or any other big, “bad” socialist measures designed to make Aryan’s lives better. Honest to Thor, I don’t get it – WHY do some WNs want to go back to the awful days of the Robber Barons?? Has anybody actually sat down and read some history of what life was actually LIKE back then?? Tim McGreen above pretty much nailed it.

      Given this division among us I wonder if Linder’s idea about microstates after the revolution isn’t the best idea. The free marketers can have their Randian hellholes; I will chose a National Socialist state or as close to one as I can get!

    18. Irma Grese Says:

      Adam Says: Okay. How will whites turning over all control of their medical issues to a gov’t run by an intensely hostile non-white minority (aka ZOG) improve their future?

      Well that’s the thing, Adam – it wont until after the current mudhaus is overthrown and the Reich is established. Once that happens I have NO problem with national health, public education spending, boosting social security and all those other nasty evil SOCIALIST (OOOGAH BOOGAH) programs which make life for Aryans better and longer.

    19. Irma Grese Says:

      I keep trying to reply to Adam and this thing keeps eating my comments.

    20. Irma Grese Says:

      Allright, one more try: That’s the thing, Adam – it wont until after the current mudhaus is overthrown and the Reich is established. Once that happens I have NO problem with national health, public education spending, progressive income tax WITH NO LOOPHOLES, boosting social security and all those other nasty evil SOCIALIST programs which make life for Aryans better and longer.

    21. Tim McGreen Says:

      For what it’s worth, any of you so-called White “nationalists” who think having a Ron Paul style Libertarian/ Laissez-Faire government is the solution are decieving yourselves. A country where it’s every man for himself, where it’s “I’ve got mine, you get yours” is a country that will soon be enslaved all over again by Big Money and Big Jew.

      If your goal is to create a society where a White person who needs medical assistance is denied care because he is too poor to pay for it, a society where employees have no rights and where the rich own everything, a society that cares only about money and not about Race………

      Then WTF are you WNs complaining about? You already live in that kind of society. So my advice to you is to fight to hold on to the System we already have, fight for it tooth and nail. You are all creatures of the System you seek to destroy, you just don’t realize it.

    22. Curt O'brian Says:

      The people benefiting are the ones with twelve kids. Isn’t there now a “keep the family together ” movement to fast track relatives from Mexico and beyond to those illegal’s already in the United States? That is what the Reconquesta movement is all about.

    23. Tim McGreen Says:

      “Right-wing, reactionary, Conservative, big business, hate GW Bush, big pharma, big insurance, the struggle, right-wing assholes, mentally ill, paranoid”

      When I read all that I think I’m reading the Huffington Post or an Cold War-era edition of Pravda.
      >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

      Arianna Huffington is a flaky broad with a phony Zsa Zsa Gabor accent. She married that millionaire homo businessman Huffington thinking she could turn him into a politican and eventually get him into the White House, thus making her the next Jackie Kennedy.

      But really, what have I written about Big Business, Big Pharma, the paranoid Right, etc. that isn’t true? Does being exposed to the light of day make you turn into a pile of dust or something?

    24. Blackshirt Says:

      Right wing, CONservative (wringing hands): “Isn’t it just horrible that illegal aliens will get healthcare under the new healthcare system?”

      White racial revolutionary (with a smile): “Bring on the rot!”

      Worse is better.

    25. Blackshirt Says:

      P.S.- Anything that further bankrupts and weakens the US Government is GOOD.

    26. Jim Says:

      Thank you Tim MfcGreen and Irma Grese. The ONLY way that National Health Insurance will ever work is in a jew free, all White National Socialist Folkish State. Libertarianism and unbridled capitalism can never be a model for a future Aryan State. We need a strong state structure to promote a high White birthrate, eugenics, and a high level of Aryan culture. Socialism is the ideal system as long it is Aryan Socialism and not jew socialism.

    27. Adam Says:

      Blackshirt Says:

      Right wing, CONservative (wringing hands): “Isn’t it just horrible that illegal aliens will get healthcare under the new healthcare system?”

      Self-described white racists who have no problem with money being taken from whites at gunpoint to pay for medical care for non-whites have some very strange ideas about what constitutes white racism.

      White racial revolutionary (with a smile): “Bring on the rot!”

      Worse is better.

      “Worse is better” is like Nietzsche’s saying that what doesn’t kill you makes you stronger — quite possibly the stupidest thing Nietzsche ever said. The most that could reasonably be claimed is that sometimes worse is better, or that sometimes what doesn’t kill you makes you stronger. But if I cripple you without killing you, have I made you stronger? I don’t think so. What about some severe brain damage with the effect of making you into a human vegetable? Are you stronger for it? The question answers itself. Likewise with this health care proposal, or rather, series of proposals, since no one really knows how the thing will finally be configured. The resulting increase in totalitarian gov’t control may contribute to revolutionary ferment, but that’s dubious, since if history is any guide, American whites will allow anything at all to be done to themselves or their children to avoid the charge of racism. Though a mass movement is a nice fantasy, I see no reason to think it will happen.

      Purely as a matter of logic, it’s hard for me to see, and apparently no one here can explain, why whites turning over total control of their medical care to people who want to kill them is at all desirable, or in fact, anything other than suicidal and insane.

    28. Blackshirt Says:

      Adam says:

      “Self-described white racists who have no problem with money being taken from whites at gunpoint to pay for medical care for non-whites have some very strange ideas about what constitutes white racism.”

      What is so strange about wanting White people to hurt so much that they get off their asses and do something? You don’t get people to do anything as long as they are comfortable. Revolutions occur when people lose everything and have nothing more to lose. White people need to get uncomfortable, VERY uncomfortable.

      Sure it sucks to see White people deplete their savings and lose their wealth to non-whites through taxation and welfare programs. But on the other hand, I don’t feel sorry for them or any cowardly conservatives who are paying for their own inaction. Most White people in this country are getting what they deserve. They didn’t fight when “civil rights” became the law of the land, they didn’t fight when wealthy conservative Republicunts sent their jobs to China and imported millions of turd worlders to keep the White worker’s wages down, and they didn’t fight when their government sent their children overseas to fight Israel’s wars by proxy. On top of that 95% of White men in this country will bite their tongues and accept the situation when their daughters are spreading their legs for non-Whites. No, I have no sympathy- fuck them. I hope they HURT, I hope their lives become unbearable, just like they have done to my life by their cowardice.

      Adam, your view is the easy way out, the conservative reactionary way. It is the way people travel when they don’t want conflict, when they don’t want to rock the boat, when they don’t want to fight. I’m way beyond that. I was were you are 20 years ago. I want revolution, conflict, and let the chips fall where they may.

    29. Adam Says:

      Kuda Bux Says:

      “See I would have NO PROBLEM with a Canadian, British or French-style national health system AS LONG AS IT WAS IN AN ALL-WHITE STATE.’

      Fine, so long as no one is forced to participate.

      Any sort of gov’t program will inevitably drive out competition for the simple reason that a gov’t program doesn’t need to make a profit and can even lose money — and do that forever, if need be. You just can’t compete against that.

    30. Adam Says:

      Blackshirt Says:

      On top of that 95% of White men in this country will bite their tongues and accept the situation when their daughters are spreading their legs for non-Whites.

      White women and girls will get plenty of practice spreading their legs for non-whites when national health care requires them to get mandatory gynecological exams from incompetent affirmative-action nigger doctors.

      No, I have no sympathy- fuck them. I hope they HURT, I hope their lives become unbearable, just like they have done to my life by their cowardice.

      With such friends, the white race needs no enemies. I would save them all if I could, even against their will.

      Adam, your view is the easy way out, the conservative reactionary way. It is the way people travel when they don’t want conflict, when they don’t want to rock the boat, when they don’t want to fight. I’m way beyond that. I was were you are 20 years ago. I want revolution, conflict, and let the chips fall where they may.

      Total destruction of the global technological system is the easy way out? I had no idea.

      Your view might have some credibility IF instituting national health care could reasonably be expected to produce a racial revolution. But on the contrary, rather than heightening white racial consciousness, I think it will have the opposite effect. Under such a program, I think American whites will become more sheep-like, more anti-racist, more degraded, and more disposed to race-mixing than ever.

    31. Curt O'brian Says:

      Well the power of the state will protect the status quo once it goes all the way to one side. For example, it will be a hundred times harder to negate the protection now under federal hate crime laws for gays. The easy way was not to pass that law. Once the families are reunited and half the population is basically Mexican national in the West who is going to change what again?

      You’d have to be as creative and as aggressive and as much a liar as the jews and copy what they did to get it back. Gradually take over the media and the universities… Assassinate people like Huey Long and Kennedy and get elected Johnson and FDR and Eisenhower.

      Look at the Jews F ing with people right here on this page. Copying the names of posters three months ago changing one letter and going after each new strong voice that posts with three sock puppet names. How many honest fair playing white Europeans are up for that? Nobody plays dirtier than a dirty jew. They don’t believe in Hell or shame. Like an animal that just does a great job memorizing those SAT word lists. Can anybody with a conscience and a normal grasp of right and wrong copy them?

      That is what the Jewish lobby is counting on. No.

      The native Americans tried to placate the Spanish and the Europeans by signing peace treaties. Look at what it got them. Incrementally they were chopped down to the crappiest land in the country.

    32. Blackshirt Says:

      Curt O’brian/Tom McReen says:

      “Look at the Jews F ing with people right here on this page. Copying the names of posters three months ago changing one letter and going after each new strong voice that posts with three sock puppet names. How many honest fair playing white Europeans are up for that? Nobody plays dirtier than a dirty jew.”

      Are you referring to yourself and your alter ego Tom McReen? Surely you aren’t talking about anyone else.

    33. Blackshirt Says:

      No, I have no sympathy- fuck them. I hope they HURT, I hope their lives become unbearable, just like they have done to my life by their cowardice.

      Adam then said:

      “With such friends, the white race needs no enemies. I would save them all if I could, even against their will.”

      You must be a Christian with that attitude! LOL Isn’t that what evangelical Christards want to do- save you even when you don’t want to be saved? I guess that is what is different between those in the right wing with Christian values and those like myself who believe in natural law. Like Tom Metzger I believe we could lose a good portion of the White people on this planet and recover with a sound Eugenics program using the White stock that is left over from the purging. You want to save all of them? How about the Heidi Klums of the world- you know, the beautiful White women who have had multiple mongrel offspring with shitskins? How are White people such as that worthy of living when we come to power? I can think of quite a few white people who are suitable for nothing more than death, and there is no way to save them.

    34. Tim McGreen Says:

      I’d say that only about 10-15% of the White race is worth saving. The rest are too fat, dumb, lazy, corrupted, defective, hopeless, spineless, effeminate, etc. to give a second thought to.

    35. Adam Says:

      Blackshirt Says:

      Like Tom Metzger I believe we could lose a good portion of the White people on this planet and recover with a sound Eugenics program using the White stock that is left over from the purging.

      Ah, the noted biologist Tom Metzger again, the guy who believes you can think yourself into being a Jew or a nigger. He obviously understands eugenics about as well as he does the biology of race.

      Making whites more race-loyal by altering their genetics would only make them more like Jews, and so is self-defeating. My aim is not to make the white race more jewy, but to save as much as possible of it. To destroy the vast majority of it, as you claim you want to do, is just crazy.

      It also seems to me that this jewification of whites is entirely unnecessary. If you have the stones for so much killing, and can envision a white racist regime capable of carrying out such a program coming to power, why not just eliminate all non-whites? That avoids having to re-engineer the white genome. There wouldn’t be any non-whites to breed with, even if some of them had a potential desire to. I think it’s clear your proposed course of action has more to do with personal animosities than a rational assessment of the situation.

      How are White people such as that worthy of living when we come to power?

      Again, I think there is little prospect of a racist mass movement among whites. In the economic collapse of the 1930s, for example, unemployment was at record highs, and yet if anything, it made American whites more communistic, not more fascistic. In the USSR of the same time period, there was famine engineered by Stalin and his Jewish henchmen that claimed 20 million or so white lives, and yet there was no revolution. In fact, American whites were so inherently anti-racist that at the close of the decade, they were easily led into teaming up with their still resolutely anti-racist and philo-semitic Soviet counterparts to crush Nazism, a movement for their own world racial supremacy. So full of enthusiasm for defeating the spectre of white supremacy were they that at Dresden they incinerated tens of thousands of white men, women, and children without a second thought. In short, they were as confused about their real enemies as you appear to be.

      In any case, my opinion is that there is not time to temporize with fantasies of a white racist political revolution in America. Even if a national health care plan bankrupts the country or causes famine — an unlikely outcome, in my view — history would indicate that that will still not be enough to cause American whites to unite on a racial basis. Also, if America becomes weak enough, it will simply be taken over by an outside power, probably China. That would certainly doom the white race to extinction.

      What is needed to save the white race is no mere political revolution, but a revolt against the global technological system itself.

    36. Irma Grese Says:

      Oh great – NOW all the comments I tried to post above suddenly appear! LOL.

      As for a “revolt against the global technological system itself,” no thanks. I happen to LIKE things like central heating, vaccinations, cars, air travel, space ships, electricity, nuclear power and especially my iPod! Living the life of an illiterate dark ages serf, dying in childbirth or by age 30 from the measles?? Been hanging out at ren faire, ain’tcha?? I’m pretty sure Whites can figure a way to get rid of kikes, niggers, and all the rest without cutting our own throats.

    37. Adam Says:

      Irma Grese Says:

      As for a “revolt against the global technological system itself,” no thanks.

      The beauty of it is, such a revolt doesn’t require a mass movement to succeed. The consent of niggers, Jews, and whites who are more fond of their iPod than their race is not requested or required. Volentem fata ducunt, nolentem trahunt.

    38. Tom McReen Says:

      “Like Tom Metzger I believe we could lose a good portion of the White people on this planet and recover with a sound Eugenics program using the White stock that is left over from the purging.”

      With sentiments like that it’s no wonder that most people see ‘us’ as destined to stay on the fringe.

      Very jewish to try and persuade WNs that they should accept and celebrate mass death of White people ‘for our own good’. What’s the difference between that and the war-loving Zionists/WW2/Gulf War patriotards?

      Defeatist, perverse and possibly subversive claptrap.

    39. Blackshirt Says:

      As usual, McReen has NOTHING to add to the conversation except sniping at other posters. Take note, folks.

    40. Blackshirt Says:

      Socrates, could we please ban McReen again? I mean seriously, this “guy” is disruptive… Jim Giles was an amateur compared to agent McReen.

    41. Irma Grese Says:

      The consent of niggers, Jews, and whites who are more fond of their iPod than their race is not requested or required.

      Yeah RIGHT. I love my race a hell of a lot more than you do, you who wants to condemn us to the hell of a no-tech society or to some kind of Randian laissez-faire sewer. You sure you’re a White Nationalist? If so, why do you want us to live like that after going through so much blood sweat and tears to get rid of the jew?? Technology is NEUTRAL. It is in the uses to which it is put that the moral component lies. I say we find a way to use technology to free ourselves of the sub-humans and advance towards the stars, not try to plunge back into the dead past! There are ways to do this, which is all I will say on that subject at this point.

    42. Adam Says:

      I love my race a hell of a lot more than you do, …

      Just not enough to give up your iPod for it.

      You sure you’re a White Nationalist?

      Are you sure YOU are? For reasons I have several times explained in detail in these pages, the era of the nation state is just about over. There will be global government unless the technological system is destroyed. The internal logic of the system requires it.

      Technology is NEUTRAL.

      I have repeatedly shown this view to be fallacious. The greatest force for cultural (and racial!) change throughout history, and especially in the present, is the technological system.

      … advance towards the stars …

      LOL. Walking among the stars again? Sounds like you’re a perfect candidate for our resident spamming lunatic’s Star Trek fan club in the PNW. Keep your shoes shined, kiddo, and maybe he’ll let ya wear his Spock ears!

    43. Tom McReen Says:

      “As usual, McReen has NOTHING to add to the conversation except sniping at other posters. Take note, folks.”

      “Socrates, could we please ban McReen again? I mean seriously, this “guy” is disruptive… Jim Giles was an amateur compared to agent McReen.”

      My post was on-topic and dealt directly with an (hideous) idea that was posted.

      Blackshirt’s MO: keep saying I am Curt O’Brian (when his allies here are proven sock puppet users), keep maintaining I disrupt (when my posts are legitimate) and keep clamouring for me to be banned (to get VNNers off this forum who don’t submit to Blackshirtian-Parsifalian marxist jew-friendly anti-White left-wing fantasy Nazi phony racialism).

    44. Tim McGreen Says:

      How does Herr Adam communicate with the outside world, je me demande? Does he use a blanket and a camp-fire to make smoke-signals? Does he get about town in a cart pulled by a donkey? Does he wear a Fred Flintstone animal skin in lieu of normal people clothes? My guess is that Herr Adam is one of the biggest hypocrites around, someone who is a voracious consumer of technology, electricity and petroleum-based products.

      Miss Irma is correct, technology is neutral. It is inanimate. It is lke fire, in that it can be either a good servant or a fearful master. It all depends on how it’s used. If it wasn’t for developing technology, our Cro-Magnon ancestors would never have been able to compete sucessfully against the Neanderthals.

    45. Adam Says:

      The argument isn’t that the technological system can’t sometimes provide what seem to be benefits, but rather that all technology comes with a price, and it’s childish to think you can have the good effects of it without any bad effects. To use any technology is to accept that there will be bad effects, only some of which will be known in advance.

      More importantly for the purposes of this discussion, the history of developments within the technological system, a few of which I have covered at length in other threads, shows that the worst effects of technology are often completely unforeseen, and have been catastrophic for the white race.

      Supporting the technological system means that you support the problems it causes, including such disastrous effects. It is no overstatement to say that, via the global technological system, whites have become complicit in their own genocide. People who wish to retain the technological system are in effect making the decision that the extinction of the white race is an acceptable price to pay.

    46. Curt O'brian Says:

      Something wrong with being Curt O’brian? I haven’t said anything yet that isn’t true.

    47. Kuda Bux Says:

      Here is the source of Adam’s ideas, for the third or fourth time. He is a Christian anarchist marxist.

      “Jacques Ellul (January 6, 1912 – May 19, 1994) was a French philosopher, law professor, sociologist, lay theologian, and Christian anarchist. He wrote several books about the “technological society” and the intersection between Christianity and politics, such as Anarchy and Christianity (1991)—arguing that anarchism and Christianity are socially following the same goal.

      A philosopher who approached technology from a deterministic viewpoint, Ellul, professor at the University of Bordeaux, authored 58 books and more than a thousand articles over his lifetime, the dominant theme of which has been the threat to human freedom and Christian faith created by modern technology. His constant concern has been the emergence of a “technological tyranny” over humanity. As a philosopher and lay theologian, he further explored the religiosity of the technological society.

      Ellul studied Karl Marx and became a prolific exegete of his theories.”

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_Ellul

    48. Adam Says:

      Kuda Bux Says:

      “Ellul studied Karl Marx and became a prolific exegete of his theories.”

      Actually Ellul’s ideas on technology have nothing at all to do with Marxism, as you would know if you had read his books. As a writer on technology, Ellul is as little concerned with Marxism as you are with contributing anything of value to this discussion.

    49. Tom McReen Says:

      “Something wrong with being Curt O’brian?.”

      No, you should post more often. But…I’m not you (this is getting surreal) despite the trolls’ ramblings.

      “Supporting the technological system means that you support the problems it causes, including such disastrous effects. It is no overstatement to say that, via the global technological system, whites have become complicit in their own genocide. People who wish to retain the technological system are in effect making the decision that the extinction of the white race is an acceptable price to pay.”

      Adam is winning me over with his points about the technological system. I was once sceptical. Naturally, his critique is being simplified by the science-heads who think they’re beyond any criticism and can’t quite grasp Adam’s well-founded insights.

    50. New America Says:

      Some quick comments:

      One, I stand all amazed that no one saw the Obama Proposal for what it was; something that was deliberately – DELIBERATELY – designed with a fatal flaw from the very beginning.

      It was designed to create a masterful sideshow – in a time when government tax revenues are declining by thirty to fifty percent year over year – to stop anyone from looking too closely at larger, structural issues.

      The fatal flaw came out from pretty much Day One:

      One, Medicare payments would be reduced to…

      Two, increase Medicaid payments.

      At the end of the day, it was basically take money away from Gran’pa and Gran’ma’s health care providers – MediCARE recipients – and increase medical aid to the Faithful Colored Companions, the crackhead niggers, and the illegals at the hospital emergency rooms and “community health clinics” – the latter is a term you will be seeing a lot of in the years ahead.

      It took Fox News all of one minute to put together two and two, and get an even number.

      The result?

      The status remains pretty much quo, with the insurance companies – billionaires – getting more, all done with the silence of the signing of paper.

      Just in time for an off-year election, just to use that great polling opportunity to test the waters of what the taxpayers want to hear, and what they will act on.

      As always, the White Race will suffer the most.

      The Purpose Of Judaism is The Genocide of the White Race.

      We Have A Duty To Our Racial Destiny.

      We’re not the last of a dying breed, but the first of a brave new world.

      Harold Covington’s Northwest Quartet removes our excuses, offering in their place an entire Nation, a White Homeland, and a path whereby our Posterity may one day walk Among The Stars.

      Take Control Of The Destiny That Is Rightfully Yours.

    51. Curt O'brian Says:

      No you are not me. That is right. And I saw this f cker take your name while you were making many good points months ago. Same thing now with Adam. The strongest voice at the moment… this gay- that’s a certainty- Jewish – that’s actually less certain than the first – thing goes after.

      Sometimes it’s a young voice. But sometimes it sounds like a pitiful middle aged guy who must be a college lecturer and using all the energy of a man’s competitive nature to tear down everything into the lowest common denominator. Which of course is Jewish.

      Religion and culture of criminals and whores for thousands of years in Europe. And aren’t they proud of it too.

      Or sometimes I think that there is a paid group posting here. The long line between zaassturta and that last Wagner guy and now his puppets have got to be paid by some rich Jews legacy. Got to be. Pros…

      Or ok some Jewish temple group of debate club types working for free with trips to Israel – fucking waiting Jewish princesses who give it up for work well done like they are chewing gum. Lot of possibilities when your culture and soul are those of whores and criminals 2000 years in the making. A group of smart ass, lactose intolerant, farting, plaid shirt wearing, bisexual Jew boys? Although their Susan avatar had the sensibility of a woman. A 45 year old woman.

      Or this guy, Tom, again that you’ve talked about, this Prof moriarty -this Jann? Maybe. Sounds like a lot of work for one guy though and the intelligence of the responses changes in IQ. Split personality?

      It’s not resistance against the whites. That was twenty years ago. Now the whites are the resistance and the evil empire is dominant.

    52. Tim McGreen Says:

      {Curt O’brian Says:

      11 November, 2009 at 3:29 pm

      Something wrong with being Curt O’brian? I haven’t said anything yet that isn’t true.}

      ***************************************************

      Well “Curt O’brien”, let’s see, where to begin…OK, your last name should be spelled with a capital B, not a lower case b, as in Curt O’Brien. I suspect you are someone who is not conversant in English, as nothing you have ever posted here makes any god damn sense. And you are certainly not aware of how Irish names are properly spelled. Perhaps you are some old coot from Belgium or one of the other Low Countries? BTW, have you had your prostate examined lately, gramps?

      Secondly, …….Well, I’d like to finish tearing you apart, “Curt O’brian”, but my shift is over and I have to catch the bus. But don’t worry, the next “Tim McGreen” will come online shortly. And let me tell you, she’s a real bitch!

    53. Blackshirt Says:

      ““Something wrong with being Curt O’brian?.”

      No, you should post more often. But…I’m not you (this is getting surreal) despite the trolls’ ramblings.”

      Tom/Curt having a talk with himself. LOL How are things in Britainistan(or is it Tel Aviv?), McReen? Well, nothing funnier than watching two trolls with fake Irish names talk to each other.

    54. Tom McReen Says:

      Curt: I used to believe that all the antis here were just Jahn and maybe one other but I now agree, it is a group and they are serious as they have been here for a long time and keep coming back even when banned, still dominating discussions and doing a part-time impression of knowledgeable WNs in between subversive posts.

      Mike Jahn is ‘Tim McGreen/Parsifal/Zarastrutha’. I used to believe he was Blackshirt but that uptight accuser is another person. That’s not to say they don’t use sock puppets as they obviously do – the ones that always agree and praise each other’s posts, the ones with the writing style exactly the same as Jahn’s (when Jahn doesn’t try to hide it), the ones who play down their presence but all still agree with each other (when Jahn is trying to hide it) and the obvious troll names – Tim McGreen, Old Dutch’s Sidekick, LOL, Parrot. Don’t forget the Germanic handles.

    55. Z.O.G. Says:

      # Tim McGreen Says:
      10 November, 2009 at 1:58 am

      I’d say that only about 10-15% of the White race is worth saving. The rest are too fat, dumb, lazy, corrupted, defective, hopeless, spineless, effeminate, etc. to give a second thought to.

      There you go, folks. Classic.

    56. Blackshirt Says:

      Z.O.G. Says:

      “Tim McGreen Says:
      10 November, 2009 at 1:58 am

      I’d say that only about 10-15% of the White race is worth saving. The rest are too fat, dumb, lazy, corrupted, defective, hopeless, spineless, effeminate, etc. to give a second thought to.

      There you go, folks. Classic.”

      Yep, you’re right, ZOG. And it’s so true too!

    57. Z.O.G. Says:

      # Blackshirt Says:
      12 November, 2009 at 2:30 pm

      Z.O.G. Says:

      “Tim McGreen Says:
      10 November, 2009 at 1:58 am

      I’d say that only about 10-15% of the White race is worth saving. The rest are too fat, dumb, lazy, corrupted, defective, hopeless, spineless, effeminate, etc. to give a second thought to.

      There you go, folks. Classic.”

      Yep, you’re right, ZOG. And it’s so true too!

      There you go, folks. Another classic.

    58. Irma Grese Says:

      see THIS is what I complained about a few months ago – whites lining up the firing squad in a circle! It’s why we never get anywhere! Instead we snipe at each other, call each other trolls antis fags fed agents or whatever. Any old wedge is used to divide us, religion being one of the most powerful though there are many others.

      There’s no ONE royal road to a juden-frei world! There are probably many paths. Maybe Adam’s right, or Linder, or Covington, but we all do what we can with what we have, I hope.

    59. New America Says:

      in reply to Irma:

      In another thread I dealt with one of the fundamental weaknesses of self-identified White Nationalists.

      Citing the masterful Insight of Briseis, I noted there is a dramatic surplus of “Incompetent Males.”

      Women do not want to be around Incompetent Males.

      COMPETENT Men do not want to be around Incompetent Males.

      Competent PEOPLE – Adults, one and all – do not want to be around Incompetent Males.

      Briseis just hit this one out of the park, and it’s STILL going.

      The REAL Curt and Tom have it right, too, but they are correct on the margin, where decisions are made.

      The fundamental issue is, Adults – psychologically speaking – want nothing to do what what they have seen as, and calls itself, “White Nationalism.”

      Yet, when Patriarchs were around, they fought long odds, and successfully recruited for The Cause, as the Patriarchs chose ti define it.

      Rockwell started it, and Pierce carried the flame.

      Listen to Pierce’s ADV’s, and they are timeless, because Pierce addressed ALL issues in the light of one issue, and that issue is RACE.

      While so many others moan and bewail their fate – the result of the choices they made with their lives, by the way, so they have no one to blame but themselves – Pierce noted how a Race War was going on, and we were losing by default, by not answering The Call.

      Seen from a Racial Perspective, the topic of this thread is but one example of how the men and women who own America have decided to displace, and replace, the White RACE, and replace it – and us – with openly dysgenic policies.

      THAT is the Overview.

      THAT is the Context through which you must SEE everything.

      Pierce has his Awakening, and having this Overview was as natural to him as breathing.

      Same with Covington.

      There is a MOMENT where the Soul Calls, and chooses your Destiny.

      Answering The Call, and fulfilling that Destiny is always challenging, and has more than its share of poverty, and moments of despair,

      Covington had his moment the day he left Chapel Hill High School, and swore that no other White people would have to experience what he did.

      Why on Earth should Covington give a damn about them, particularly when they do not give a damn about him?

      Because that was the only Framework his Mind could accept – at that time – the only Framework that could speak to both head, and heart.

      In time, Covington grew – and his detractors in the White Nationalist “Movement” simply didn’t, choosing to remain left behind in a world where they wait quietly, patiently, and impotently, for the magical return of Sky God Pierce, Sky God Rockwell, and Sky God Uncle Adolf.

      Covington’s Framework to solve The Racial Problem grew, and he hit on the grreatest, most correct Answer of all.

      The Northwest Republic – a White Nation, a White Homeland.

      Remember one of Linder’s best Insights:

      Alex Linder said (loosely paraphrased):

      Take any State in the union, ni matter how desolate it appears, no matter how forbidding the weather.

      Make it “WHITES ONLY,” put up “WHITES ONLY” signs on the border, and stand back, or you will be run over by the wall of traffic of White people fleeing FOR THEIR LIVES from what America has become.

      Covington’s Northwest Republic Analytical Model takes this Idea, expands it, and fills in the blanks for What It All Means for us.

      With that as our theme, look at the topic of this thread, and ask yourself, “What would this look like in a Northwest Republic?”

      Answer:

      It wouldn’t look like anything at all, because it could not BE, in a Northwest Republic, in a Racially Conscious White Nation.

      The Purpose Of Judaism is The Genocide of the White Race.

      We Have A Duty To Our Racial Destiny.

      We are not the last of a dying breed.

      We are the first, and best, of a brave new world.

      Harold Covington’s Northwest Quartet removes our excuses.

      Period.

      In their place Covington offers us an entire Nation, a White Homeland, and a path whereby our Posterity may one day walk Among The Stars.

      Take Control Of The Destiny That Is Rightfully Yours.

    60. Z.O.G. Says:

      Interesting, New America. Tell us more.

    61. Blackshirt Says:

      “Instead we snipe at each other, call each other trolls antis fags fed agents or whatever.”

      Irma, this is completely McReen’s M.O.. Notice that this wasn’t going on at anywhere near the level it is now until McReen was allowed back on the forum. I also noticed that when McReen was banned his other aliases “Curt” “Lonestar” and “banjo billy” weren’t around much either. Hmmm, I wonder why that is? Perhaps it is because they are all one in the same.

      And I’m not just talking smack either. I’m sure several of the regulars here can vouch for what the forum was like without McReen. I’m not backing off or letting go of this because McReen is THE #1 problem on this forum. Within the past week he/it/them have been trying to seem legit by posting on topic, but then he/it/them slip back into the sniping mode. Why do I hate this “guy”? Well, he’s made some very personal attacks on me calling me jew, marxist, etc. McReen is like a cancer, if you ignore a little tumor, it soon becomes a big tumor. McReen is the cancer on this forum.

    62. Tim McGreen Says:

      The McReen/ZOG/O’brien/ Axis of Stupid must be defeated!

    63. Tim McGreen Says:

      McReen//Jim Giles/ZOG/Curt O’bryen….Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you the newest inductees into The Hall of Lame.

    64. Z.O.G. Says:

      New America, what do you think of Tim McGreen?

    65. New America Says:

      in reply to Z.O.G.

      I’ll answer your questions in reverse chronological order.

      you wrote:
      New America, what do you think of Tim McGreen?

      in reply:
      I think Tom McReen, and Curt O’brian, have both spoken with clarity of thoughtful insight, and strong intellectual honesty.

      Look to their written words, and see how cogent their observations have been; notably, they always under attack by enemies they should be proud of, even if those enemies are essentially Incompetent Males, with a writing style that is little more than the impotent raging the Child trying to enter a world he can see, but can not understand – the world of the Adult.

      Such people do Judaism a double service; not only do they waaste valuable share of Mind on VNN, they also act to discourage anyone looking in on us from lingering.

      Their emotionally driven acts are deliberately designed to induce emotionally controlled responses, the reactions of Adults entering a room, and seeing a handful of Adults trying to have a balanced discussion in the middle of a junior high school cafeteria food fight.

      They were Losers when they came, and they will be Losers when they leave.

      But they will not leave of their own free will.

      Note, by the way, that Blackshirt has called for the banning of certain people, who have not responded – in like, Child-like manner – for the banning of him.

      Note that several people are writing under Blackshirt’s name.

      Think there’s a reason for that?

      So do I.

      It’s designed – and this is a tactic Linder was the first to describe as very Jewish – to create an exception to the Rule, and thus, attempt to negate the Rule IN IT”S ENTIRETY, leaving us at the mercy of living in a society without Rules – without Adults – ah, but I just repeated myself, didn’t I?

      That ties into my answer to your first question, which will follow directly.

      The Purpose Of Judaism is The Genocide of the White Race.

      We Have A Duty To Our Racial Destiny.

      We are not the last of a dying breed.

      We are the first, and best, of a brave new world.

      Harold Covington’s Northwest Quartet removes our excuses.

      Period.

      In their place Covington offers us an entire Nation, a White Homeland, and a path whereby our Posterity may one day walk Among The
      Stars.

      Take Control Of The Destiny That Is Rightfully Yours.

    66. Blackshirt Says:

      “Note, by the way, that Blackshirt has called for the banning of certain people, who have not responded – in like, Child-like manner – for the banning of him.

      Note that several people are writing under Blackshirt’s name.

      Think there’s a reason for that?

      So do I.”

      You are all wrong, NA. I am the only one writing under my name and the “person” I am calling on being banned has been banned BEFORE for doing the exact same shit “he” is doing now. If you think I’m being “childish” then so be it. I think you are being pseudo intellectual. Your posts are long winded advertisements for Harold Covington. There you go, a non-childish assessment of who you are. Two can play that game.

      Now, when you talk about “losers” it is quite funny, considering that you support and promote the most famous loser in the White “movement” – Covington, who is an out of shape, shit-stirring loser of the first order, who leaves behinid a string of failed marriages, slander and misinformation wherever he rears his rabbinical looking mug.

      Judge me and you’ll get the same, Covington disciple.

    67. Blackshirt Says:

      “I think Tom McReen, and Curt O’brian, have both spoken with clarity of thoughtful insight, and strong intellectual honesty.”

      You are obviously out of your mind.

    68. New America Says:

      in reply to Z.O.G. (2):

      In my reply to Irma, I discussed, in part, why what has self-identified as “White Nationalism” has failed so spectacularly, and did so in the context of Rockwell, as damn near the discoverer of how to MAKE fire, and Pierce as the Prometheus who carried Rockwell’s Gift forward, and Made Something of it.

      That ties us back to Briesis, and her masterfully Insightful comments regarding the Incompetent Males who are attracted to WNism for the worst of reasons – and who get all of the publicity in the Jew-controlled Lame Stream Media.

      (It would take a Lady to Creatively lament the lack of Men in those who proclaim our beliefs, wouldn’t it?)

      Civilization IS Patriarchal.

      Look to the greatest moment in the last two and a half centuries, and you will find three things – a date, a social Collapse, and a transformation into the foundation of a New Nation, ALL the result of the actions of Patriarchs.

      The year?

      1776.

      The social Collapse?

      The British Empire’s control over it’s colonies in America, seen by th internal response of the collapse of the Articles of Confederation.

      The transformation into the foundation of a new nation?

      The replacement of one model, the British Colonies and the Articles of Confederation, with another model, the creation of The United States of America, and the Constitution (with the Bill of Rights, which gave organic life to the clockwork Constitution.)

      The Patriarchs?

      Where to begin?

      Washington, Jefferson, Adams, Hamilton, Franklin – the list goes on, Patriarchs who created the nation, left, and we have not seen their like since.

      Note, as well, an important Insight from Covington concerning the relationship of the former United States of America to the Northwest Republic:

      Wars are begun by politicians, and they are ended by bookkeepers.

      H. A. Covington, “A Distant Thunder”

      Juxtapose Covington’s Idea with Linder’s ruthlessly accurate Analysis:

      Alex Linder wrote:

      Take any State in the union, no matter how desolate it appears, no matter how forbidding the weather.

      Make it “WHITES ONLY,” put up “WHITES ONLY” signs on the border, and stand back, or you will be run over by the wall of traffic of White people fleeing FOR THEIR LIVES from what America has become.

      THOSE are the bookends for this discussion.

      One, America is failing, and must Collapse inward upon itself. The result will be, demographically, Mexico, with snow, and the Mexicans who were intended to replace the White Race will do the Elite double duty, by removing the Faithful Colored Companions first, in a manner that would make their Aztec Ancestors proud.

      The central government will be too busy maintaining a bare handful of critical State functions – Treasury, Military, and a paramilitary “Civil Defense.”

      In THAT Light, look at the current discussions of a national health program, and see it as little more than a sideshow to avoid facing the fact that the economic foundation of the formerly middle class is GONE, and there will be no replacement in sight, particularly when State tax revenues year-over-year are down by about FORTY percent, on average.

      Such discussion are a damn sideshow, designed to keep your attention over *HERE!*, and not on a much larger picture.

      On the temporal politics of the moment, and never on how those political issues are being played out on a background of Racial Politics – the ONLY politics that matters over the long run.

      Where Rockwell, who MADE Fire, and Pierce, who CARRIED Fire, “failed” – and they did not “fail” in any direct meaning of the term – was they did not go yet further, much damn further.

      Their focus was the White Nationalist Community.

      Covington wrote of something much more acceptable, and, potentially, much, perhaps infinitely greater, the Racially Conscious Community.

      THAT is the Foundation that WE have taken for granted, that must be discovered anew, and given life anew, a stronger, brighter, much more positive, much more powerful life.

      The Racially Conscious Community is based on the Insight that will help us win:

      Family Is The Foundation Of The Nation.

      As I said above, women are natural socialists.

      The Jungian Shadow of this is this:

      Women are ruthlessly Elitist when it comes to THEIR Children.

      The Socialists win the elections that allow them to rule nations with the first proposition; the National Socialists build better nations, that allow a country the size of Oregon, reduced to starvation, with unemployment above FIFTY PERCENT, to Creatively Transform itself in less than a decade, to the highest standard of living in the world, and a military power that took all but the rest of the world in union to subdue.

      Let me repeat – a nation the size of damn OREGON, a small part of Covington’s Northwest Republic.

      The Leader of that first nation was TIME Magazine’s Man Of The Year for 1939.

      The Leader of that second nation might be reading this even as we speak, while his demographic cohort is studying for their driver’s license exam…

      More to follow – if there are any specific issues around my posts that anyone wants to discuss, particularly Linder’s Insight, or Briseis’s perfect, and perfectly accurate formulation, “Incompetent Males,” this seems to be an excellent thread for that purpose.

      Two quick thoughts:

      One, Peter Shank noted one purpose of the Jews – the destruction of the Warrior Caste, and then the potential Warrior Caste – could be seen in the relentless gelding of our young “males” who made it out of the womb, but not into Manhood, which is the necessary precondition for Patriarchy.

      Two, THOSE are the Explorers, the ones who realize the status quo is already dead, and simply does not realize it yet.

      I have been trivially critiqued for my sig, even after I pointed out how it was right at home with White Nationalist’s best fiction writer, Jack London.

      I welcome this as an opportunity to show that, once again, those of us who support Harold Covington and the Northwest Republic Analytical Model are so damn right i hurts, and they are so damn wrong as to be beneath notice, save as examples of how not to be.

      Terrible Tommy Metzger speaks of Sun Worship – useful as one Aspect of a State Religion, if you think about it – but I look on a somewhat different Sun.

      Metzger sees the Sun – the Solar God – seeming to disappear at night, only to return in the morning.

      I see not one Sun, but four hundred billion suns, in our tiny little galaxy alone.

      Whereas the historic White Nationalist Community sees the Sun, I see The Stars.

      We have always set our sights way too low.

      Harold Covington, and Alex Linder, are working to help us escape from the traps set before us by our Racial Enemies; Covington, by offering the best possible Solution, and Linder, showing us HOW the pernicious, relentless effects of our Racial Enemies work against us.

      Making them work FOR us is the beginning of the Positive Work of VNN, and the Racially Conscious Community.

      The Purpose Of Judaism is The Genocide of the White Race.

      We Have A Duty To Our Racial Destiny.

      We are not the last of a dying breed.

      We are the first, and best, of a brave new world.

      Harold Covington’s Northwest Quartet removes our excuses.

      Period.

      In their place Covington offers us an entire Nation, a White Homeland, and a path whereby our Posterity may one day walk Among The Stars.

      Take Control Of The Destiny That Is Rightfully Yours.

    69. New America Says:

      Socrates:

      Another one trapped in the spam filter.

      Thanks.

    70. New America Says:

      in reply to Blackshirt:

      I’ll try to address your attempts at making salient points.

      Blackshirt wrote, quoting New America above:
      “Note, by the way, that Blackshirt has called for the banning of certain people, who have not responded – in like, Child-like manner – for the banning of him.

      Note that several people are writing under Blackshirt’s name.

      Think there’s a reason for that?

      So do I.”

      in reply:
      Like a Child, you want to take your ball and go home when you have been clearly bested.

      Worse, you want those who have been triumphant to be banned for, well, being better than you are in the marketplace of ideas.

      That’s very, very Childish.

      And, there are several different “voices” writing under your name.

      Unless, of course, you have multiple personality disorder, which, given many of those who self-identify as White Nationalists, is, sadly, pretty much the normal state of affairs.

      Again, the perfect formulation of Briseis:

      Incompetent Males

      Notice she didn’t say “Men.”

      No, that would be addressing the spiritual dimension, which is all too sadly absent, all too often, in those who self-identify as White Nationalists.

      Think there’s a little bit of compensation in people who can not function in the Real World, and go around dressing in uniforms of an elite officer corps?

      So do I.

      Blackshirt wrote:
      You are all wrong, NA. I am the only one writing under my name and the “person” I am calling on being banned has been banned BEFORE for doing the exact same shit “he” is doing now. If you think I’m being “childish” then so be it.

      in reply:
      My grammar software – several programs – says “Blackshirt’s” postings here represent two different writers.

      Blackshirt wrote:
      I think you are being pseudo intellectual.

      in reply:
      As opposed to being “a” pseudo-intellectual?”

      you wrote:
      Your posts are long winded advertisements for Harold Covington. There you go, a non-childish assessment of who you are. Two can play that game.

      in reply:
      Well, I am not really “advertis(ing) for Harold Covington.”

      I am addressing the underlying issue that, historically, self-identified “White Nationalists” have failed to address.

      I have given Dr. Pierce credit for his “White Zion” ADV.

      I have also constructively criticized the “White Zion” philosophy for not going far enough, in many senses of the term.

      The total absence of a political organization, for example, as an organizational bridge is one area where Dr. Pierce’s “White Zion” model proved less than perfect, as a model, for White Nationalist organization,

      Covington defines the same issue, in the same term, that America’s Founding Patriarchs did.

      Why settle for being a better British colony, when you can be a better nation, in a racial Homeland?

      Why settle for being the very best, of the second best?

      The Northwest Republic Analytical Model goes further, by looking at our present problems, and seeing them as opportunities to be addressed in the context of a White Homeland.

      Again, look at the topic of this thread:

      Government Health Care Plan Will Cover Illegal Aliens

      One, it already does – for “free” – at emergency rooms across America.

      The House Plan would further legitimize this, by explicitly forbidding emergency room staff from asking for proof of national identity.

      Two, would this headline even be possible in a White Homeland, the Racially Conscious Community of a Northwest Republic?

      No, of course not.

      Game to Covington.

      Blackshirt wrote:
      Now, when you talk about “losers” it is quite funny, considering that you support and promote the most famous loser in the White “movement” – Covington, who is an out of shape, shit-stirring loser of the first order, who leaves behinid a string of failed marriages, slander and misinformation wherever he rears his rabbinical looking mug.

      in reply:
      Again, we see the junior high school cafeteria level of response.

      Let me make this clear, one more time.

      I do not give a damn if Harold Covington is on the payroll of every intelligence agency on Earth, and is totally bat-shit, “lie awake at night and howl back at the Voices he hears coming from the Moon” crazy.

      It is his corpus of WORK – particularly the Northwest Quarter – that is all of the measure of the man I need.

      It is what he has DONE – repeat, DONE – good Patriarchal concept, that – that puts him head and shoulders above all other White Nationalist analysts.

      Dr. Pierce wanted White Zions – plural – White – his term, not mine – “Archipelagoes.”

      Covington wants a White Nation – a Racial Homeland.

      Ironically, look at the mudhole that is the headquarters of Pierce’s National Alliance, in Hillsboro.

      Now, how long before it is demographically surrounded by mud, in more than one meaning of the term?

      Now, use GOOGLE Earth to look at Covington’s proposed Resettlement Area #1, Kalispell, Montana.

      Isn’t it just beautiful?

      Wouldn’t YOU like to wake up in the morning to some place that looks like THAT outside your bedroom window?

      My GOD, if I have to even make the argument…

      And there are so many equally wonderful areas in Covington’s Northwest Republic.

      I’ll make this easy for you, Blackshirt.

      I’ll give you Hillsboro, West Virginia, which was the best of White Nationalism past.

      I’ll take Kalispell, which looks like the best of White Nationalism’s FUTURE.

      Game, set, to Covington.

      Blackshirt wrote:
      Judge me and you’ll get the same, Covington disciple.

      in reply:
      I am not a disciple of Covington.

      I am a disciple, and advocate, of what is best for the RACE.

      If anyone has better ideas than Covington, I am more than ready for them.

      If anyone has ideas AS GOOD as Covington, I am more than ready for them.

      Right now, consider Covington in light of what Alex Linder said about an ethnostate based specifically on RACE as its foremost organizing principle:

      Again, Alex Linder, speaking as Pierce would have spoke, if Pierce had been here today:

      Take any State in the union, no matter how desolate it appears, no matter how forbidding the weather.

      Make it “WHITES ONLY,” put up “WHITES ONLY” signs on the border, and stand back, or you will be run over by the wall of traffic of White people fleeing FOR THEIR LIVES from what America has become.

      There is that very apt phrase in Linder’s Commentary:

      …you will be run over by the wall of traffic of WHITE PEOPLE FLEEING FOR THEIR LIVES from what America has become.

      The Purpose Of Judaism is The Genocide of the White Race.

      We Have A Duty To Our Racial Destiny.

      We are not the last of a dying breed; we are the first, and best, of a brave new world.

      Harold Covington’s Northwest Quartet removes our excuses.

      In their place Covington offers us an entire Nation, a White Homeland, and a path whereby our Posterity may one day walk Among The Stars.

      Take Control Of The Destiny That Is Rightfully Yours.

      By the way, Blackshirt?

      What is your conception of our Racial Destiny. both for yourself, and for the rest of us?

    71. Tim McGreen Says:

      ZOG, McReen, O’bryenn, Jew America……What a scurvy, pathetic crew of lowlife idiots.

    72. Z.O.G. Says:

      New America, do you think that “Tim McGreen” and “Blackshirt” are both part of a group of infiltrators posting here on VNN who know each other in the offline world?

    73. New America Says:

      In reply to Z.O.G.:

      My second reply to your earlier post is still trapped in the spam filter. Apologies.

      you wrote:
      New America, do you think that “Tim McGreen” and “Blackshirt” are both part of a group of infiltrators posting here on VNN who know each other in the offline world?

      in reply:
      In an earlier time, when the world was young and I was trusting, I was told that coincidences happen, and the formula was, “Once is accident, twice is coincidence, three times is enemy action.”

      I don’t believe in coincidence.

      I DO believe in enemy action.

      There is too much overlap, too often, between Blackshirt, and Tim McGreen, and my grammar software says the Blackshirt persona is being shared with another, and that “other” sounds just like Tim McGreen.

      Of course, “Tim” and “Blackshirt” just might be a Lone Puppy (apologies to Metzger!) who is off his mood stabilizers; given many who have self-identified as “White Nationalists” in the past, would anyone be surprised by this?

      I am amazed at how much disciplined opposition VNN has received, which is quite telling, in and of itself.

      I suspect the reason self-identified White Nationalism has inspired such incredible hatred and vitriol is obvious:

      If we are right on any of this, then all too many of our Racial Kinsmen have been played for fools.

      If our Racial Kinsmen ever realize the only issue that really matters is not the false duality offered by our Racial Enemies, but Race, and then begin to organize, however inchoately, around that, then the parasites are doomed.

      There is ALWAYS the safe, Controlled Opposition.

      The choices they are always fighting over are both – and they are only offered two – false, and only lead to further ineffectiveness, further impotence.

      Transcending the false duality and attempting to develop our own solutions, however small they may seem, based on a Positive Theory of Race, simply terrified our Racial Enemies.

      That is why we are the subject of so much Active Opposition.

      If we are remotely correct, begin to organize POSITIVELY around Race as the Primary Principle of Social Organization, and act in the fulfillment of a transcendent Racial purpose, we will pose a tremendous threat to the status quo.

      And, remember, all I am proposing for us is EXACTLY what the Jews do for themselves.

      So far, the Jews are ten for ten in politics, and we can’t even get one on the board.

      THAT is how much of a threat we would pose; not a threat in terms of the threat or use of force, but threat, in terms of acting as the Creative Race, building a better world, starting where we are.

      This poses such a threat that entire organizations are devoted to making this stop, by any means necessary.

      After all, the cattle might leave the pen, or, much more appropriately, the Children might leave the Day Care, replacing the nominal Adults with the REAL Adults the Children could become.

      Defining EVERY action, no matter how small, in the light of a Transcendental Racial Purpose is THE Key to Jewish effectiveness, and could be the Key to MUCH greater effectiveness for OUR Posterity.

      That’s why we – alone, of all Races – MUST be stopped.

      After all, when the Host leaves, what is the Parasite to do?

      The Purpose Of Judaism is The Genocide of the White Race.

      We Have A Duty To Our Racial Destiny.

      We are not the last of a dying breed; we are the first, and best, of a brave new world.

      Harold Covington’s Northwest Quartet removes our excuses, offering in their place an entire Nation, a White Homeland, and a path whereby our Posterity may one day walk Among The Stars.

      Take Control Of The Destiny That Is Rightfully Yours.

    74. Blackshirt Says:

      “There is too much overlap, too often, between Blackshirt, and Tim McGreen, and my grammar software says the Blackshirt persona is being shared with another, and that “other” sounds just like Tim McGreen.”

      Your “grammar software”? BULLSHIT. You better get your money back on your “grammar software” if it is telling you I’m more than one person. What a retard.

      But let’s see how many half-page replies I can get out of you… I’ll just keep posting small rebutals to what you say, and you being keen to get the last word will continue to type your rambling half-page messages. By the way, Covingtoon’s ideas are bullshit. LOL :-) (that’s for my buddy, ZOG) ;-)

    75. New America Says:

      in reply to Blackshirt/Tim McGreen/Third Voice:

      Welcome back!

      I am always delighted when you reply, as you prove beyond doubt the basic point of Briseis, when she spoke of how White Nationalism ask “The Movement” seemed to attract so many Incompetent Males.

      Your trite, junior high school cafeteria ad hominem attacks, simply serve to show the painful truth – you probably spend all of your spare time – and, being unemployable, you have a lot that! – playing X-Box, probably HALO 3, where you can be the Warrior you so obviously can not be in the Real World.

      they also provide me with more opportunities to display why Harold Covington’s opposition is reduced to trie, ad hominem attacks, as none will even discuss, much less dispute, the substance of his Analysis.

      Just as well.

      New America wrote:
      <“There is too much overlap, too often, between Blackshirt, and Tim McGreen, and my grammar software says the Blackshirt persona is being shared with another, and that “other” sounds just like Tim McGreen.”

      Blackshirt replied:
      Your “grammar software”? BULLSHIT. You better get your money back on your “grammar software” if it is telling you I’m more than one person. What a retard.

      But let’s see how many half-page replies I can get out of you… I’ll just keep posting small rebutals to what you say, and you being keen to get the last word will continue to type your rambling half-page messages. By the way, Covingtoon’s ideas are bullshit. LOL :-) (that’s for my buddy, ZOG) ;-)

      in reply:
      Again, the Voice of the Incompetent Male simply retreats into personal attacks that – and here is the social network hijacking in action – change the topic under discussion from the topic of the thread.

      Now, THAT’S very clever, and THAT’s very Jewish.

      Well done!

      Now, Blackshirt/Tim McGreen/Third Voice, go back to the rabbi and tell him he will have to try something new, or trust that Socrates will allow you to swarm VNN.

      Good job, Jew!

      The Purpose Of Judaism is The Genocide of the White Race.

      We Have A Duty To Our Racial Destiny.

      We are not the last of a dying breed; we are the first, and best, of a brave new world.

      Harold Covington’s Northwest Quartet removes our excuses, offering in their place an entire Nation, a White Homeland, and a path whereby our Posterity may one day walk Among The Stars.

      Take Control Of The Destiny That Is Rightfully Yours.

    76. Blackshirt Says:

      Ah, I knew you couldn’t resist trying to get in the last word, “New America”. You really are an amusing sort. I like the way you try to insinuate that you are somehow on the higher intellectual ground than me, and that I am somehow inferior to you. Right laughable. Still plugging for Covingtoon, I see. LOL

      Now let’s see if I can get more half-page replies out of you… it is obvious that you have all day to sit on your fat ass and write them, since you are probably unemployed and live with your mama. What irony, considering you accuse me of that, and in reality you are describing yourself. The proof is in the unlimited time you have to write your diatribes. ;-)

    77. Z.O.G. Says:

      Uh-oh, it looks like “Blackshirt” is getting pissed off.

    78. New America Says:

      Z.O.G. wrote:
      Uh-oh, it looks like “Blackshirt” is getting pissed off.

      in reply:
      Yes, we see this in the oppositional defiance of the adolescent, where “act out” in an attempt to shift attention to themselves, if necessary adopting the emotional perspective of a Child.

      Note that Blackshirt/Tim McGreen/Third Voice love to play social hijacker and shift the discussion WITHIN a thread from the topic OF the thread.

      The good news is, this is the level of discussion those who would adopt the culture of critique revert to, as they respond in fear to the Vision of the Adult, and even more so as they are literally unable to conceive of the Vision of the Patriarch.

      Just as well.

      Blackshirt/Tim McGreen/Third Voice can go back to playing HALO 3, while the best of us work on becoming the Living Foundation of a New Nation, a Northwest Republic.

      And, don’t worry about B;ackshirt/Tim McGreen/Third Voice.

      As you might have noticed, they have not offered one constructive point in all of their discussions, and note this with a particular emphasis:

      They have run from any discussion of Incompetent Males like, well, incompetent males, and like vampires from sunlight.

      There’s a reason for that, and that reason is not at all flattering to them.

      Honest, yes, but flattering, no.

      Maybe they are fans of “Twilight,” as well!

      Maybe, when they go to bed – always alone! – they roll over, bury their heads in the pillow, bite down hard (on the pillow!) and moan, “Oh, Robert! Take me, Prince of Darkness!”

      HALO 3 Master Chief by day, possessed and conquered virgin by night.

      Well, glad we got THAT sorted out!

      If THIS was the only competition we faced, we would all awaken to the magnificent landscapes and mountain views of the Northwest Republic.

      The Purpose Of Judaism is The Genocide of the White Race.

      We Have A Duty To Our Racial Destiny.

      We are not the last of a dying breed; we are the first, and best, of a brave new world.

      Harold Covington’s Northwest Quartet removes our excuses, offering in their place an entire Nation, a White Homeland, and a path whereby our Posterity may one day walk Among The Stars.

      Take Control Of The Destiny That Is Rightfully Yours.

    79. Blackshirt Says:

      “If THIS was the only competition we faced, we would all awaken to the magnificent landscapes and mountain views of the Northwest Republic.”

      Maybe, when New America goes to bed – always alone! – he rolls over, buries his head in the pillow, bites down hard (on the pillow!) and moans, “Oh, Harold! Take me, Prince of the Northwest Quartet!”

      ;-)

    80. New America Says:

      in reply to Blackshirt:

      That’s what makes you so, well, “unusual,” Blackshirt.

      One, you are not at all Creative – which implies that you are Jewish, or controlled by the Jews.

      Two, my grammar software shows a Third Voice within those who post under your name.

      THAT is probably your Controller – the Child who can act like an Adult for a short time, who can use more sophisticated concepts and a more sophisticated vocabulary.

      That is not to say that Third Voice understands the terms he is using; simply that he can use them in a nominally credible fashion, for a short period of time, until his Childish nature comes to the fore, as well.

      What you and your do that wins First Prize is your ability to socialjack – socially hijack – threads to turn the discussion into what you want, and to neutralize the topic altogether.

      Finding the Light in the Darkness, I enjoy the opportunity to demonstrate the stunning dichotomy between the Jewish conceptions of you and yours, and the Northwest Republic Analytical Model as defined by Harold Covington, or, to state it more forthrightly, the difference between Incompetent Males, and the Patriarch.

      The former think only of themselves, and, like the Child, and the Infant, think only of their personal, immediate, physical gratification.

      Note something fascinating:

      The only comment that had you reacting quickly was the one where you end up fantasizing about one of the Men of “Twilight.”

      Guess it got a little boring playing HALO 3, eh, “Master Chief?”

      What’s that pillow taste like?

      The Purpose Of Judaism is The Genocide of the White Race.

      We Have A Duty To Our Racial Destiny.

      We are not the last of a dying breed; we are the first, and best, of a brave new world.

      Harold Covington’s Northwest Quartet removes our excuses, offering in their place an entire Nation, a White Homeland, and a path whereby our Posterity may one day walk Among The Stars.

      Take Control Of The Destiny That Is Rightfully Yours.

    81. Blackshirt Says:

      New America is an incompetent male, just like his hero Harold Covingtoon. :-)

      Newbies get the real story of Harold Covington here: http://members.libreopinion.com/wasp/HAC/HAC.html

    82. Tom McReen Says:

      “McReen//Jim Giles/ZOG/Curt O’bryen….Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you the newest inductees into The Hall of Lame.”

      I always strongly suspected that the ‘Jim Giles’ caricature was one of your group’s inventions, playing it for giggles and trying to boost your own cred here by ‘standing up to the obvious troll’. I said nothing at the time but I’m not remaining quiet while you try and stretch that scenario to ‘Jim Giles’ having anything whatsoever to do with me or ZOG or Curt.

      “I also noticed that when McReen was banned his other aliases “Curt” “Lonestar” and “banjo billy” weren’t around much either.”

      That really is a stretch. If you care to know, Banjo Billy also posts on VNN forum and is not me.

    83. New America Says:

      in further reply to Tom McReen:

      Did you notice that when the topic was several people posting under multiple names simultaneously, we got the usual denial, while when the topic went to next level of abstraction, social hijacking – “socialjacking” – not one word was said by the Blackshirt Entity in reply?

      I noticed this some time back, on another thread here as part of a discussion involving “Hooiser” – one of the Good Guys – where I rasied the same issue, to stunning silence.

      No junior high school cafeteria mockery, and not even the most trivial of denials.

      I think were on to a nest of the little vipers.

      My grammar software – and the statistical analysis back-end I plug it into – shows there is a definite Third Voice within the Blackshirt Entity.

      That’s the one I call The Controller.

      Thanks for sticking with this thread, which proves why VNN leads, and others follow.

      I guess it’s because Linder is fulfilling Pierce’s Ideal of forming a Vanguard – better people, doing better.

      Thanks again.

      The Purpose Of Judaism is The Genocide of the White Race.

      We Have A Duty To Our Racial Destiny.

      We are not the last of a dying breed; we are the first, and best, of a brave new world.

      Harold Covington’s Northwest Quartet removes our excuses, offering in their place an entire Nation, a White Homeland, and a path whereby our Posterity may one day walk Among The Stars.

      Take Control Of The Destiny That Is Rightfully Yours.

    84. Tom McReen Says:

      New America,

      They often don’t try to hide what they do, their sock puppets have been heaping praise on each other’s posts recently. I almost missed this one:

      “Blackshirt Says:
      10 November, 2009 at 1:43 am

      No, I have no sympathy- fuck them. I hope they HURT, I hope their lives become unbearable, just like they have done to my life by their cowardice.”

      Blackshirt wants White people to HURT!

      “Adam then said:

      “With such friends, the white race needs no enemies. I would save them all if I could, even against their will.”

      You must be a Christian with that attitude!”

      Adam picks up on it and Blackshirt tries to distract from the major issue by spouting off about Christianity again.

      Blackshirt and McGreen have posted a few times recently about how they want WHITE conservatives, WHITE christians and WHITE traitors and 80-90% of WHITE people to HURT/die/killed/’cleansed’.

      Their emphasis is always on White people, not jews.

    85. Blackshirt Says:

      Read my full posts above folks, don’t let McReen try to warp what I say and the context in which I say it.

      Now McReen, about that question you refuse to answer: How can you be a WN and worship a Jew?

    86. New America Says:

      in reply to Tom McReen:

      “Third Voice” – my term – of the Blackshirt Entity looks like “Adam.”

      Good call!

      Now, who would want “WHITE conservatives, WHITE christians and WHITE traitors and 80-90% of WHITE people to HURT/die/killed/’cleansed’.”

      The answer is pretty obvious.

      Further, note that they will always shift the subject to a high emotional response issue, like Christianity.

      They will never discuss the social hijacking – “socialjacking” – we discussed earlier.

      That’s what their Ancestors did with Revilo Oliver, you know, and with the late Dr. Sam Francis.

      The technique is a variation of “dynamic silencing,” where you are nominally allowed to speak, but your words are Framed in a manner that marginalizes you.

      Dr. David Duke described a variation of this when he was interviewed on the radio, and the engineer would SLOWLY turn the volume down for his earpiece, which tricks you into shouting to overcompensate for the loss of volume.

      The audience only hears you – or worse, sees you – as a shouting fool who can not understand what is going on.

      Speaking of shouting fools:

      Blackshirt wrote:
      <blockquote cite=""Read my full posts above folks, don’t let McReen try to warp what I say and the context in which I say it.

      Now McReen, about that question you refuse to answer: How can you be a WN and worship a Jew?</blockquote cite=""

      in reply:
      This reveals a high probability of the Third Voice/Adam component of the Blackshirt Entity as the author.

      Now, to answer the question in light of the "socialjacking"/dynamic silencing technique, note the question is phrased to address a hot button, highly emotionally charged issue, which is entirely outside the scope of the topic of this thread.

      Let’s stay on topic!

      And, let’s address ALL topics in terms of what has been long absent from what self-identifies as “White Nationalism,” which is a comprehensive, Race-based Solution.

      Where can we find such a Solution?

      Glad you asked.

      The Purpose Of Judaism is The Genocide of the White Race.

      We Have A Duty To Our Racial Destiny.

      We are not the last of a dying breed; we are the first, and best, of a brave new world.

      Harold Covington’s Northwest Quartet removes our excuses, offering in their place an entire Nation, a White Homeland, and a path whereby our Posterity may one day walk Among The Stars.

      Take Control Of The Destiny That Is Rightfully Yours.

    87. Tom McReen Says:

      Don’t hide behind ‘context’. The idea is consistent. You hate Whites.

      “Like Tom Metzger I believe we could lose a good portion of the White people on this planet and recover with a sound Eugenics program using the White stock that is left over from the purging.”

      PURGING!

      “Worse is better.”

      “What is so strange about wanting White people to hurt so much that they get off their asses and do something?”

      Wants White people to hurt (here comes the excuse) so they will ‘do something’.

      “Sure it sucks to see White people deplete their savings and lose their wealth to non-whites through taxation and welfare programs. But on the other hand, I don’t feel sorry for them or any cowardly conservatives who are paying for their own inaction.”

      So it doesn’t suck if that is happening to White people as long as you call them ‘Conservatives’.

      “Most White people in this country are getting what they deserve.”

      !!!

      “They didn’t fight when “civil rights” became the law of the land, they didn’t fight when wealthy conservative Republicunts sent their jobs to China and imported millions of turd worlders to keep the White worker’s wages down, and they didn’t fight when their government sent their children overseas to fight Israel’s wars by proxy.”

      Ah, there’s always a ‘WN’ context to justify Blackshirt/McGreen’s rabid anti-White hatred. Convenient.

      “On top of that 95% of White men in this country will bite their tongues and accept the situation when their daughters are spreading their legs for non-Whites. No, I have no sympathy- fuck them. I hope they HURT, I hope their lives become unbearable, just like they have done to my life by their cowardice.”

      Ah, context. THAT explains why you hate White people (still waiting for mention of jews in this rant) so much.

      “Adam, your view is the easy way out, the conservative reactionary way. It is the way people travel when they don’t want conflict, when they don’t want to rock the boat, when they don’t want to fight. I’m way beyond that. I was were you are 20 years ago. I want revolution, conflict, and let the chips fall where they may.”

      More context. Itz the ‘reactionaries’ fault not. ‘Let the chips fall where they may’? No, you said you wanted Whites to hurt. Again:

      “No, I have no sympathy- fuck them. I hope they HURT, I hope their lives become unbearable, just like they have done to my life by their cowardice.”

      You must be a Christian with that attitude! LOL Isn’t that what evangelical Christards want to do- save you even when you don’t want to be saved? I guess that is what is different between those in the right wing with Christian values and those like myself who believe in natural law.”

      Itz the Christian’s fault. ‘Natural law’ = wanting Whites to hurt/die.

      “Like Tom Metzger I believe we could lose a good portion of the White people on this planet and recover with a sound Eugenics program using the White stock that is left over from the purging.”

      Metzger again? Check. Blaming Conservatives and Christianity instead of jews? Check. Desire to see Whites suffer? Check.

      “You want to save all of them? How about the Heidi Klums of the world- you know, the beautiful White women who have had multiple mongrel offspring with shitskins? How are White people such as that worthy of living when we come to power? I can think of quite a few white people who are suitable for nothing more than death, and there is no way to save them.”

      He thinks of White people being suitable for death. He wants White people to HURT. NO mention of jews yet. But we can blame Christians and Conservatives (as long as they’re White).

      “# Tim McGreen Says:
      10 November, 2009 at 1:58 am

      I’d say that only about 10-15% of the White race is worth saving. The rest are too fat, dumb, lazy, corrupted, defective, hopeless, spineless, effeminate, etc. to give a second thought to.”

      And here’s his tag-team partner with exactly the same idea – 85-90% of White people, I mean Conservatives and Christians, should die.

    88. New America Says:

      in further reply to Tom McReen:

      Full damn marks!

      Note that the Blackshirt Entity blames Christianity, and the vast majority of the White Race – 85% or so.

      This ties in with Peter Shank’s great Insight:

      When you attack Christianity, you do the work of the Jew.

      Let’s revise and expand that, shall we?

      When you attack Christianity and the White Race, you do the work of the Jew.

      Well, the 85% of the White Race that needs culling, shall we say…

      So, that gets the White Race down to about TWO PERCENT of the population of the planet.

      Wouldn’t they throw parties at the temples one THAT day!

      Hell, they could put up billboards and bumper stickers with their new motto, right from the Borg:

      Resistance Is Futile.

      Well, yes, if the Blackshirt Entity has anything to say about it.

      Some of us have other ideas.

      To reFrame their formulation:

      85-90% of White people, I mean Conservatives and Christians, after they accept the barest outline of our Philosophy, WILL convert enough that they no longer become cattle for the Jews, and batteries for The Matrix. (Note: The Northwest Republic could hold all of us, easily.)

      The Purpose Of Judaism is The Genocide of the White Race.

      We Have A Duty To Our Racial Destiny.

      We are not the last of a dying breed; we are the first, and best, of a brave new world.

      Harold Covington’s Northwest Quartet removes our excuses, offering in their place an entire Nation, a White Homeland, and a path whereby our Posterity may one day walk Among The Stars.

      Take Control Of The Destiny That Is Rightfully Yours.

    89. Blackshirt Says:

      McReen, answer the damn question you Cuntservative, Christard! How can you worship a Jew and be a WN?

      Answer it, bitch.

    90. Blackshirt Says:

      “He thinks of White people being suitable for death. He wants White people to HURT. NO mention of jews yet.”

      I’m mentioning a Jew right now, McWeenie- JESUS. How’s that for naming the Jew, eh? LOL :-)

      Answer the question McReen: HOW CAN YOU BE A WN AND WORSHIP A JEW?

    91. Blackshirt Says:

      Awwwww… our resident Covingtard has found a new friend in Tom McReen! It’s always so touching to see two retards make a love connection. ;-)

    92. Tom McReen Says:

      “Answer the question McReen: HOW CAN YOU BE A WN AND WORSHIP A JEW?”

      Do you really believe sticking to that non-question is deflecting anyone’s attention from all the anti-White, jew-loving, marxist propaganda you and your tag partner have posted?

      There are lots of WNs who are Christians, some on VNNF, and none of them are as vitriolically anti-white, pro-jewish or obviously marxist as you and Timmy.

    93. Blackshirt Says:

      Answer the question McReen: HOW CAN YOU BE A WN AND WORSHIP A JEW?

    94. Blackshirt Says:

      McReen can’t answer the question without admitting that he is a flaming hypocrite. So what does he do? He obfuscates by saying it’s a “non-question” and “There are lots of WNs who are Christians”. It’s really amusing to see this troll dance around the issue ;-)

    95. Z.O.G. Says:

      Hey, why hasn’t “Parsifal/Zarathustra/Tim McGreen” made any more replies in this thread? Hmm, maybe because he was banned…again?