2 December, 2009

Vanguardists vs. Mainstreamers

Posted by Socrates in Socrates, White future, White identity, white nationalism, White Nationalists, White philosophy, White solutions, White thought, William Pierce at 12:42 pm | Permanent Link

“The esoterica/costumes are weird, unnecessary, and off putting. Neo-Nazism and Third Reich fetishism are losers. Holocaust revisionism is an irrelevant waste of time. Better quality control is a no-brainer. A private, invitation only ‘vanguardist’ organization could work; every social movement needs a capable leadership.”

I think that Dr. Pierce did, in fact, create a vanguard that saved the West, but he didn’t live to see it. Pierce planted the seed and it will grow, little by little, year by year:

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  7. 56 Responses to “Vanguardists vs. Mainstreamers”

    1. ein Says:

      “with all of the clowns, freaks, and flat-out Losers removed.”

      Can beggars be choosers?
      Why doesn’t VNN do the same?

    2. New America Says:

      in reply to ein:

      I wrote:
      “One, Kemp wants White Nationalists to form explicitly White political organizations, with all of the clowns, freaks and flat-out Losers removed.”

      you replied:

      If so, then what will they have left? Anything? They’re delusional. In theory it would be a great idea though.

      Sorry to sound negative, but frankly, with so little support as it is, can they afford to be picky? As if they had large numbers that they could weed down!

      If there’s nothing growing in your garden but a few scrawny weeds, are you going to go out and weed it?

      in reply:
      Notice that everything Kemp proposed is already in place, either with Roman’s European American United, or Duke’s Euro.

      Note what has happened in terms of effectiveness.

      Zero.

      Over half a century of the power of the Frankfurt School, controlling the public indoctrination education system, with the incredible power of mass color television, have made, from a marketing perspective. “The Brand Called White race” all but equal to “The Brand Called White Trash.”

      This Is Not By Accident.

      Let Kemp form his little Party, and have a little party.

      No one will show up, except for disinformation specialists, informers, agents provocatuers, and goddamn Losers.

      You can imagine the conversation around the refreshments table:

      “Hi! Great cake, isn’t it! 14!”

      “88! Yes, good cake, and damn fine punch. Not like drinking Thunderbird, is it?”

      Simple as that.

      The funny thing is, you look at all of the social ills he describes as part of the Foundation Platform for the New Party, and they all seem to be Jewish in origin, and under active Jewish control.

      So, let Kemp and his buddies strike at the limbs.

      VNN, under Alex Linder, will only strike at the roots.

      That’s a good idea, for all of us.

      Certainly, the roots love it when you strike the twigs, limbs, and branches.

      Plenty more where THEY came from!

      you wrote:

      On the positive side, I liked your very comments about the 2010 census. Very perceptive. That’s worrisome indeed!

      in reply:
      That’s why the Jew-controlled System Media is focusing on 2040, and 2050; two false choices to get the foolish damn White people worked up, and demoralized.

      The larger issue is, the decision has been made, and the new demographic reality WILL prevail.

      What do we do about it?

      Form ANOTHER impotent Third Party, and try to sneak up on the Democrats and the Republicans?

      Please.

      Linder said it best:

      You can NOT sneak up on the Jew. You must go at them straight on, and never stop.

      And that is the moderate position.

      My solution sees America as it was, which the Patriotards and CONservatards want to return to, as all but gone.

      Fortunately, it was only one Cultural Moment in the development of Western Civilization, in general, and the American entity, in particular.

      Rather than bemoan the fate of the dying, leave them to their fate, and focus your efforts on something Much Damn Better.

      And what could that be?

      Glad you asked.

      The Purpose Of Judaism is The Genocide of the White Race.

      We Have A Duty To Our Racial Destiny.

      We are not the last of a dying breed; we are the first, and best, of a brave new world.

      Harold Covington’s Northwest Quartet removes our excuses, offering in their place a Nation, a White Homeland, and a path whereby our Posterity may one day walk Among The Stars.

      Take Control Of The Destiny That Is Rightfully Yours.

    3. New America Says:

      in further reply to ein:

      you wrote:

      “with all of the clowns, freaks, and flat-out Losers removed.”

      Can beggars be choosers?
      Why doesn’t VNN do the same?

      in reply:
      This is an issue that Linder addressed when he cleaned up VNN/F, and it will have to be addressed if VNN is to be what Pierce imagined a newsource for the Race should be.

      I’ll say this for Pierce: he had no tolerance whatsoever for this “democracy” nonsense.

      This worked out pretty well, for the while, as he managed to attract some very talented people who worked for essentially nothing, to make the world a better place, for the Race.

      We can use the word “Aryan,” but, for the moment, the more accurate term might be “Elitist.”

      Think Robert Mathews might have made a GREAT Senator?

      So do I.

      United States of America, or Northwest Republic?

      Both?

      I could not agree more.

      However, the choice to clean up this board is up to Linder and Socrates.

      Choose Wisely!

      The Purpose Of Judaism is The Genocide of the White Race.

      We Have A Duty To Our Racial Destiny.

      We are not the last of a dying breed; we are the first, and best, of a brave new world.

      Harold Covington’s Northwest Quartet removes our excuses, offering in their place a Nation, a White Homeland, and a path whereby our Posterity may one day walk Among The Stars.

      Take Control Of The Destiny That Is Rightfully Yours.

    4. Irma Grese Says:

      The people attacking New America (excepting Blackshirt, sorry but I STILL believe in honest disagreement) are trolls and antis. To me that much is obvious. Especially in the case of Mr. H1G1C1 or whatever he calls himself.

      Tom McReen Says: You can tell the above poster is a jew – the style of ridicule, the mocking of naimg the jew, the stereotyping, the constant attacks on White leaders or any regular poster with a firm view on how Whites should proceed (apart from themselves of course).

      There is NO one royal road to victory! We need the Mainstreamers as much as the Vanguardists. Didn’t Malcolm X make MLK look moderate so whites would be more likely to get behind the latter?? We WNs can play that same game if we can just get better ORGANIZED.

    5. Tim McGreen Says:

      I guess there is a strong pro New America bias at Vanguard News Network. I don’t understand the reason for that. I think the guy is a pompus, repetetive twit myself. And “Weird Harry” Glass-Covingon sounds like a real flaky character who should be avoided, not venerated.

    6. Tim McGreen Says:

      I know, I mis-spelled pompous. But I think my point is still valid nevertheless.