21 January, 2009
The Myth of Israel’s Strategic Genius
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51 Responses to “The Myth of Israel’s Strategic Genius”
22 January, 2009 at 12:40 am
Professor Walt is, naturally, a JEW. And of course, only Jews are permitted to criticize the Zionist Entity. If any Gentile scholar did it (assuming there are any left), he’d soon be working as a greeter at Wal-Mart.
22 January, 2009 at 2:24 am
Zarathustra Says: “Professor Walt is, naturally, a JEW. And of course, only Jews are permitted to criticize the Zionist Entity. If any Gentile scholar did it (assuming there are any left), he’d soon be working as a greeter at Wal-Mart.”
He’s a Jew? I didn’t know that. I looked on the internet about it. Couldn’t find anything. Got a source?
22 January, 2009 at 2:45 am
The only thing Israel did, that is even remotely intelligent, is refuse to identify the commanders of this turkey shoot massacre. They refuse to identify them on the grounds that they will likely be arrested as war criminals if they touch down, anywhere in Europe. They would likely breeze through Cheroff’s Homeland Security, here, but Europe rightly sees them as war criminals.
22 January, 2009 at 4:10 am
“Professor Walt is, naturally, a JEW.”
He is? How do you know? On what basis?
I’m not contesting you — I simply don’t know.
But I’m very skeptical of speculations that EVERYONE is a Jew!
Loose, unsupported statements detract validity from those that are factual. Please let’s see sources.
A few posters here imagine a Jew lurking behind evey lamp post. I’m not one of them. And eveything that happens is because of a Jew! That is just paranoid. There are enough real instances as it is, without imagining more.
22 January, 2009 at 9:00 am
This guy has a lot of anti izzy stuff
http://belfercenter.ksg.harvard.edu/
22 January, 2009 at 9:09 am
It has been stated here, often enough, Jews are not a race of supermen. With this in mind, why does the world expect them to excell in politics or military bravery while they are so dull in science, arts etc. ? The Professor is right on the mark, the blame for the mounting troubles of the Jewish state rests squarely with the incompetence of its leaders. They cannot see further than their own noses. But shortsightedness has consequences.
It seems to me, that in Israel a huge problem emerges, so far acknowledged by nobody: The declining morale of the Jewish population. Every political and military failure comes as a crushing blow to Jewish arrogance, not only for the top Jews, but much more for little Jewish folks, told to follow and to obey. This trend is taking place since the 80ies and causes increasing demoralisation.
When looking at the fighting spirit of Jewish soldiers, the spiral is undeniable. The IDF (a misnomer, it should be called IAF, Israel Aggression Force) of today does not stand comparison with its soldiery of 40 and 50 years ago. The generation of officers and soldiers which had lived through and experienced WWII has disappeared. Today the Jewish military force knows little how to meet a foe of equal firepower and get through it. The victories of Jewish wars against its neighbours have turned into stalemates and then defeats since the 80ies, from Syria, Libanon, Hezbollah to the latest adventure in Gaza, which can be only described as complete military disaster. The declining fighting will of the Jewish army is undeniable. Like all cowards the modern Israeli soldier took preferably aim at defenceless women and children, but withdrew immediately to the safety of the tanks and/or from the battlefield when opposing Hamas rifles picked a few of them for Abraham in heaven. Thus the IAF was unfit to carry out its task.
Because Israel’s government is adamant insisting as a condition sine qua non, Hamas has to be completely disarmed, this again reveals the poor fighting value of the present IAF. It must be well aware of the further lowered morale.
Presumably it will now use its political leverage that other nations or even the despised UN disarms Hamas on their behalf, but that will only compound Israel’s problem in the future. The Palestinians will not be slow to exploit its moral weakness.
Why the low morale?
If I were an Israeli soldier, drafted under threat from a cosy job, paid a pittance protecting Top Jews who fled to the Jewish home with billions in their coffers (of which nothing trickles down to the rank and file), obeying orders from a government where far too many are involved in corruption scandals or criminal activities, that my superior officers got their promotion through connections, rarely through ability, who usually stay out of the firing line, and all the other objectionable things which are part and parcel of Israeli life, that I am supposed to fight for a state hated by all its neighbouring nations, if not the whole world: I would ask myself: Is this shitty little state Israel worth risking my life?
22 January, 2009 at 1:16 pm
http://www.jewishvoiceforpeace.org/publish/article_802.shtml
Political science professors John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt, who are not Jewish, caused a sensation when they argued in a paper last year that a powerful Jewish lobby prevents criticism of Israel from entering public debate in the United States.
22 January, 2009 at 1:41 pm
P. C. Roberts says jewish again, in a more recent column:
“Bush talked about connecting the dots, but Bush has failed to connect any dots for eight solid years. “Our” president was a puppet for a cabal led by Dick Cheney and a handful of Jewish neoconservatives, who took control of the Pentagon, the State Department, the National Security Council, the CIA, and “Homeland Security.” From these power positions, the neocon cabal used lies and deception to invade Afghanistan and Iraq, pointless wars that have cost Americans $3 trillion, while millions of Americans lose their jobs, their pensions, and their access to health care.”
http://www.vdare.com/roberts/090113_humiliation.htm
22 January, 2009 at 1:44 pm
Believe you me, I am not one of those paranoid types who thinks there is a cunning, devious Jew lurking behind every lampost. As I have stated many, many times before, the Jews are NOT ubermenschen, nor are they numerous enough to be everywhere at once. However, one can INFER this man’s Jewishness by his curriculum vitae: Professor of International Relations at Harvard, Carnegie Endowment for Peace, Institute of Defense Analyses, Cornell, etc……….All elitist Jew/Zionist war-monger controlled institutions.
Also, no Gentile academic could ever get away with publishing a book that is critical of the Zionist Lobby. What’s more, his collegue’s name is Mearshimer, which has the Jew “heimer” suffix, like Oppenheimer, or Guggenheim. When their polemic about the Zionist Lobby was published, it was frequently stated that these two guys were “self hating Jews”.
I could be totally wrong about Professor Walt, but all the tell-tale signs of Jewiness are there, IMO.
22 January, 2009 at 2:24 pm
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22 January, 2009 at 2:38 pm
shabbos s. shabazz Says:
22 January, 2009 at 1:41 pm
P. C. Roberts says jewish again, in a more recent column:
“Bush talked about connecting the dots, but Bush has failed to connect any dots for eight solid years. “Our” president was a puppet for a cabal led by Dick Cheney and a handful of Jewish neoconservatives, who took control of the Pentagon, the State Department, the National Security Council, the CIA, and “Homeland Security.” From these power positions, the neocon cabal used lies and deception to invade Afghanistan and Iraq, pointless wars that have cost Americans $3 trillion, while millions of Americans lose their jobs, their pensions, and their access to health care.”
http://www.vdare.com/roberts/090113_humiliation.htm
Saying “a handfull of Jewish neo-conservatives” in the government is like saying “a handfull of niggers behind the woodpile”
22 January, 2009 at 3:17 pm
I’m inclined to believe Zarathustra on this one.
22 January, 2009 at 3:32 pm
“His collegue’s name is Mearshimer, which has the Jew “heimer” suffix, like Oppenheimer, or Guggenheim.”
Not good enough! Germany is full of towns containing the word “Heim” (meaning home of), and full of people whose names originally derived from their hometowns. “Heim” in itself means nothing. It tell us nothing either one way or another about who’s a Jew or gentile. It’s just somebody who came from Germany. Anybody. There are, on the other hand, some names that are specifically Jewish, or overwhelmingly so, but this isn’t one of them.
Understand, I’m not saying he isn’t Jewish either. I’ll stick with what I said originally — for want of further information, I simply don’t know.
PS. I checked with google, and could find NOTHING giving any sort of personal biographical background (on Walt). That’s rather strange. Maybe he’s just a very private person. You’re right that the academic affiliations, foundations, etc. do set off a few bells. But not enough , IMO.
22 January, 2009 at 4:15 pm
I did some further checking and found this very interesting little piece from Haaretz regarding the huge flap that Walt & Mearsheimer caused.
Btw, for those of us who imagine everyone looks like a Jew, from Yoko Ono to Anita Ekberg, take a good look at Schmuel Rosner’s photo here and note well. Now, THERE’s a real Jew!
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[After a great deal of fuss and pressure...] “An Israeli official ..was able to confirm [that] Harvard’s Kennedy School decided to remove its logo from this paper, [with a] disclaimer warning readers that the views conveyed in the paper are of the authors alone.
“Congressman Eliot Engel calling the authors “dishonest so-called intellectuals” and saying they are “entitled to their stupidity… the right of the rest of us to expose them for the anti-Semites they are.” It also reported this interesting nugget – … “Harvard, had received ‘several calls’ from ‘pro-Israel donors’ expressing concern about the Walt-Mearsheimer paper. One of the angered contributors is said to be the donor who underwrote the chair occupied by Dean Walt, Robert Belfer. Mr. Belfer,”
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/rosnerBlog.jhtml?itemNo=697960&contrassID=25&subContrassID=0&sbSubContrassID=1&listSrc=Y&art=2#article697960
22 January, 2009 at 4:39 pm
Stephen Walt
Robert and Renee Belfer Professor of International Affairs
Stephen M. Walt holds the Robert and Renee Belfer Professorship in International Affairs at the John F. Kennedy School of Government. He previously taught at Princeton University and the University of Chicago, where he served as Master of the Social Science Collegiate Division and Deputy Dean of Social Sciences. He has been a Resident Associate of the Carnegie Endowment for Peace and a Guest Scholar at the Brookings Institution, and a consultant for the Institute of Defense Analyses, the Center for Naval Analyses, and the National Defense University. He serves on the editorial boards of Foreign Policy, Security Studies, International Relations, and Journal of Cold War Studies, and as Co-Editor of the Cornell Studies in Security Affairs, published by Cornell University Press. He was elected a Fellow in the American Academy of Arts and Sciences in May 2005.
Contact Professor Walt:
John F. Kennedy School of Government
Harvard University
79 J.F.K. St.
Cambridge, MA 02138
email: stephen_walt@harvard.edu
tel: 617-495-5712
fax: 617-496-0063
http://ksghome.harvard.edu/~swalt/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Walt
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=dean+stephen+walt+&btnG=Search
22 January, 2009 at 8:13 pm
Good Christ!
I woke up this morning to hear a horribly whining voice with a distinctly nasal tonal quality coming from under my bed asking, “Do you want Lox with that Bagel?” My first thought was “It’s true, Zarathustra wasn’t lying, there really is a Jew under every bed!” But then much to my relief I found it was only another one of Bernie Madoff’s “vicitms” applying for a job at the Starbucks downstairs.
22 January, 2009 at 8:55 pm
As an American, I’d just like to say that I do not think that Israel has the right to exist.
23 January, 2009 at 3:57 am
“P. C. Roberts says jewish again, in a more recent column:”
Every now and then somebody more courageous than average opens his mouth shortly before retiring.
Regarding Mearsheimer and Walt: they are both NOT Jewish. They are on the ADL watch list, for Christ sake! Their groundbreaking article on the The Israel Lobby effectively put the blame for the Iraq war on said lobby. Nobody has countered their assertions since. It was a major blow against the Jews.
23 January, 2009 at 5:15 am
There is very good dutch doc about Aipac and Walt, 50 min. Will be back whit a link later.
Video and books online, full text books library about the global jew mafia.
hoff2.wordpress.com
23 January, 2009 at 11:06 am
The name “Mearsheimer” doesn’t appear on the Avotaynu Consolidated Jewish Surname Index, but the name “Marscheimer” does. But it only appears in one database.
http://www.avotaynu.com/csi/csi-result.html
23 January, 2009 at 11:10 am
The name “Walt” does appear on the Avotaynu Consolidated Jewish Surname Index.
23 January, 2009 at 12:13 pm
Well, well, well, look at what I found. The surname “Bush”(and the German “Busch”) appears on the Avotaynu Consolidate Jewish Surname Index, and it turns up in MANY databases. Hmm…
Soundex: 740000
Name: BUSH
Databases: ABCDEJKOQRTgp
Soundex: 740000
Name: BUSCH
Databses: ABDHJKNOQRSVdeho
http://www.avotaynu.com/
23 January, 2009 at 12:19 pm
Oh, and guess what else?
Soundex: 460000
Name: CHENEY
Databases: JKTZ
23 January, 2009 at 1:51 pm
ZOG, Cheney is an Irish name, not Jewish. But that bastard Dick Cheney might as well be Jewish for all the slavish support he has given to Israel and the Kikes. And thanks for vindicating me regarding the Walt/Mershimer Jew Controversy. I just knew they had to be the Jews’ token voice of opposition to Zionism.
23 January, 2009 at 3:08 pm
The name “Walt” does appear on the Avotaynu Consolidated Jewish Surname Index.
There are lots of possibilities. Walt could be a truncation of Walter, which is sometimes a German Jewish Surname. It could also be a variant of Wald, which is much more common. Probably that.
I’m not saying he’s Jewish though. (I just don’t know.)
23 January, 2009 at 4:27 pm
Zarathustra Says: “And thanks for vindicating me regarding the Walt/Mershimer Jew Controversy. I just knew they had to be the Jews’ token voice of opposition to Zionism.”
Stephen Walt’s ethnic background: http://www.observer.com/node/33484
He seems to be a gentile.
23 January, 2009 at 4:48 pm
“Also, no Gentile academic could ever get away with publishing a book that is critical of the Zionist Lobby.”
Uh, what about Dr. MacDonald (California State University-Long Beach)? I have three of his books.
And I too don’t like unconfirmed data–I’d perfer none at all.
23 January, 2009 at 8:14 pm
Ah! Walt has a Jewish wife. So basically he’s an honorary Jew.
“My wife’s background is a bit more complicated. She comes from Russian and Rumanian Jews on her father’s side, and Episcopalians and Catholics on her mother’s side. (Interestingly, her maternal grandfather worked in the 1930s helping German Jews escape Nazi Germany.) She grew up in New York City, in what might be loosely termed a culturally Jewish extended family, and there’s been lots of inter-marriage throughout. She was not raised in any particular faith.”
23 January, 2009 at 8:16 pm
Oh, and then Professor Walt takes the obligatory shot at “racists” and “anti-semites”(whatever those are).
“Our country shouldn’t be debating important issues by focusing on people’s individual characteristics and backgrounds. That is what racists and anti-semites do: they look at someone’s heritage and claim to know what they think, what they believe, and how they will act.”
23 January, 2009 at 8:18 pm
Yeah, “Wald” is also on the Avotaynu CJSI.
23 January, 2009 at 8:26 pm
Walt’s blog:
http://walt.foreignpolicy.com/blog/2072
23 January, 2009 at 8:59 pm
Walt is not a jew. Neither is Mearshimer. Who starts this bullshit? Although they’re long in the tooth, Taki, Roberts and others are finally naming the jew. It’s inevitable, and indicative of the battle to come.
The jews never work alone, in anything. Their top “scientists”, financial crooks, businessmen are always front men for a group of jews when you look deep enough. Their supposed acumen in many areas is merely the result of group work and group decisions. But they keep the “one man genius” show, the front, in order to make the goyim stand and stare in awe. What jews don’t mind doing is letting one jew take the limelight as long as the group gets the money and power. Whites should take note.
23 January, 2009 at 10:39 pm
gb, did it never occur to you that Walt could be a variation of Wald, as in a German Jewish surname? In the 18th century, Jews in Germany were required to get rid of their Hebrew names and “buy” German-sounding ones. The Jews who could afford it bought names like Silver, Gold and Diamond. Poorer Jews had to settle for names like Stern (star), Feld (field) or Wald (wood). I was under the impression that both Walt’s and Mersheimer’s Jewish ancestry was a settled issue, but apparently it isn’t. I still think they posess all the circumstantial/tell-tale signs of being Jews.
Professor Kevin MacDonald is, IMO, simply the “Pat Buchanan” of Academe, ie, the token Goy conservative critic of left-wing and Jewish “scholarship”. And you’re wrong about “unconfirmed data” . It is better than none at all, unless you only intend to do a limited amount of thinking on a given subject.
23 January, 2009 at 11:52 pm
I found the article very informative-jew or gentile.If they are jews,then their “self-hating jews” and if not,then brave academics.However “heimer” is a german-jewish suffix.The article is helpful tho,in pointing out Israels’ strategic mis-steps.The bloody nose they got from Hezbollah a big step back.I guess after that defeat,the jew army-ie. Israeli Aggression Force,decided they needed some “field time” murdering mostly women and children.This seems to have backfired on them for the most part and only outraged world opinion.The only reason they avoided any condemnation again was thanx to their personal poodle Bush,and his clueless Sec. of State-Kinda-Sleezy-Rice,getting a call from the indited rapist and thief-our boy Ehud O.What Amerikwans don’t realize is not only will Israel fight to the last drop of Goy blood,but if they go down,they will make sure WE(their Faithful Jump-Frog Bitch),go down with them.
24 January, 2009 at 1:39 am
Zara said: “did it never occur to you that Walt could be a variation of Wald, as in a German Jewish surname?”
Sounds very likely. Good chance of it. Even Herr. H. mentioned in his book the many German Jews who flooded to America in the 1800′s and “passed” as gentiles — the naive Americans not knowing a Jew from a Hottentot. Assimilation and intermarriage were very much the fashion among “emancipated” German Jews during the 19th Century. (Look at Karl Marx as a prime example.)
Another thing, “Wald” as pronounced, would sound like Walt in English. We know that the immigration authorities at Ellis Island, or wherever, just wrote down the name the way it sounded to them. Thus, Wald is transformed to Walt. (All this is speculation, admittedly, but well within likelihood.).
“In the 18th century, Jews in Germany were required to get rid of their Hebrew names and “buy” German-sounding ones. The Jews who could afford it bought names like Silver, Gold and Diamond. Poorer Jews had to settle for names like Stern (star), Feld (field) or Wald (wood).
Yes, I’ve seen that allegation made, but I don’t believe it. Don’t fall for it! (Would the orderly, efficient German authorities be demanding bribes on the side? It conceivable maybe, but not too likely, and certainly not on a mass scale. (This was Germany after all, not Mexico.) It’s just one more way for Jews to wail about how they were abused and exploited and persecuted by the evil gentiles who were always leeching off them. They even had to PAY to get pretty names, poor things! Otherwise, they were given an ugly one, like bug-squashier or mule’s-head. Just one more way in which we “owe” them! We’ve accumulated quite a bill to pay.
In fairness though, and to be fully objective, even if Walt really Wald, it could still have been a very ordinary German name, not Jewish. There are innumerable German names incorporating the word -wald, like Schwartzwald, Buchenwald, Waldman, Waldheimer…. The possibilities are endless.
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For a very long time, Jews — with the exception of Cohen and Levy — did not have any family name and were referred to by their father’s given name and sometimes also by their grandfather’s, such as “Moses son of Abraham son of Moses”. Because they usually lived in compact, segregated communities, they did not need the identification of surnames. [This also confused tax collectors and census takers.] As they grew in number, however, various countries passed laws compelling the Jews to adopt surnames. When they were forced to choose a family name, as was the case in the French Empire in 1808, they often adopted their father’s given name or sometimes their grandfather’s. Hence the very numerous MOYSE, SALOMON, MAYER in France. Austria led the way in 1787. France followed in 1808, and Prussia in 1812. Russia being one of the last countries to make one in 1845.
In 1787, Joseph II of Austria passed a law requiring all Jews to adopt a hereditary surname [and a German personal name] and similar rules were made throughout Europe.
Napoleon also, in a decree of July 20, 1808, insisted upon the Jews adopting fixed names. While various governments thus required Jews to adopt surnames, they were inclined to limit their freedom in the selection of such names.
When the Austrian Empire issued its decree in 1787, which required all Jews to adopt surnames, their choice of given names was restricted mainly to Biblical ones. Commissions of officers were appointed to register all Jewish inhabitants under such names. If a Jew refused to select a name the commission was empowered to force one upon him. This led to a wholesale creation of artificial surnames, of which Jewish nomenclature bears the traces to the present day.
Among the latter class are the following: Ochsenschwanz (ox tail), Nachtkäfer (night beetle), Eselskopf (donkey’s head), Rindskopf (cow’s head), Gottlos (godless), Stinker, Karfunkel (carbunkle), Galgenvogel (gallows bird), Galgenstrick (sl. for rogue), Todtschläger (manslayer), Lumpe (crook, rag), Taschengreifer (pickpocket), Durst (thirst), Fresser (glutton), Säuger (sucker), Trinker (drinker), Weinglas (wineglass), Maizel, Pferd (horse), Maulthier (mule), Wanzenknicker (bug killer), Groberklotz (rough bloke).
Note: the above is a quote, not my own writing, but I regret that I have lost track of the source.
24 January, 2009 at 1:57 am
However “heimer” is a german-jewish suffix.
It really isn’t. I repeat that “–heimer” is just German, although many Jewish names incorporate it. But so do many German ones. It reveals nothing, beyond a German origin.
Sec. of State-Kinda-Sleezy-Rice
LOL. Now that’s a good one! Worth remembering.
24 January, 2009 at 3:38 am
Good points as usual, gw. Here’s one to consider…..There was a top Nazi official named Alfred Rosenberg. I think he was an official Nazi Party Theorist. So as you say, one cannot simply go by names alone.
However, there was a famous Jewish Hollywood screenplay writer named Waldo Salt (Serpico, Midnight Cowboy). Salt, Walt……too close to be a coincidence, methinks. The debate rages on.
24 January, 2009 at 3:41 am
Waldo Salt, Steven Walt…………The scales are tipped back in my favor.
24 January, 2009 at 5:38 am
“There was a top Nazi official named Alfred Rosenberg.”
Exactly. And Bach wore his famous Goldberg Variations for a certain gentleman named Johann Gottlieb Goldberg — who was, to my knowledge, definitely NOT a jew. Furthermore, this would have been well before the time when Jews were required to take last names, so no Jew wouldn’t have had that name.
There’s town near Munich named Rosenheim. Jewish though it may sound, it’s just Bavarian. ANYBODY from that town could have that name. They would be a “Rosenheimer”.
24 January, 2009 at 1:42 pm
Zara: “Professor Kevin MacDonald is, IMO, simply the “Pat Buchanan” of Academe, ie, the token Goy conservative critic of left-wing and Jewish “scholarship”.”
Come on now. That’s not fair. He’s really gone out on a limb for Europeans, and I have learned from him. We have to be gracious for sacrifices if we want more, in potentcey and number.
Zara: “And you’re wrong about “unconfirmed data” . It is better than none at all, unless you only intend to do a limited amount of thinking on a given subject.”
No! Wrong. Unconfirmed data PRESENTED as confirmed data is not good for thinking and making decisions. Example–It’s freezing outside. You put on heavy clothes. But it’s hot and sunny in reality. Better no info than wrong info presented as correct.
I feel like at least the Mersheimer is a Jew. But it’s an assumption. Heimer, odds are jew. Then we might be getting to the old WHAT is a Jew, which ain’t always easy in considering the mixed up city populations up there.
24 January, 2009 at 2:35 pm
Israel kicked ass, the asses of women and children, that is. They are afraid of dedicated warriors and will not engage them on the field of battle. Jews are soft and tender, once they leave the confines of their heavily steel re-inforced tanks. Hamas is tougher and Israel weaker.
24 January, 2009 at 4:41 pm
I think we should take Professor Walt at his word. He says that he’s NOT Jewish. However, he says that his wife IS Jewish. So there you go. He has a Jewish wife. That makes him a Jew by marriage. lol
Did you guys even read the article that Socrates posted?
http://www.observer.com/node/33484
24 January, 2009 at 4:47 pm
Of course, I say all of that keeping in mind that both “Walt” and “Wald” are on the Avotaynu CJSI. Notice that “Wald” turns up in LOTS of databases. “Walt” shows up in quite a few also.
Soundex: 783000
Name: WALD Databases:ABEGHIJKMNOSUVWXgilop
Soundex: 783000
Name: WALT
Databases: ABCDJKMRZo
25 January, 2009 at 8:22 am
“Walt could be a truncation of Walter, which is sometimes a German Jewish Surname. ”
As in Bruno Walter, or Barbra Walters.
Lots of Jews have shortened their names. It’s very common.
25 January, 2009 at 8:25 am
“I think we should take Professor Walt at his word. He says that he’s NOT Jewish. However, he says that his wife IS Jewish. So there you go. He has a Jewish wife. That makes him a Jew by marriage.”
That does it for me. He’s not Jewish (he says), but he’s still an honorary Jew.
25 January, 2009 at 1:21 pm
Jewish Family Names and Their Origins
By Heinrich Walter Guggenheimer
http://books.google.com/books?id=_dQP4nHgyVUC&pg=PA816&lpg=PA823&vq=wald&dq=Nadel,+nadelman,++origin+of+name&ie=ISO-8859-1&output=html
Here’s something very curious. This reference work is extremely thorough, and I went to it trying to check Wald/Walt /Walter. It turns out (after much tedious searching) that these names would be on page 815. I do bring up Wald on p.813, but it refers me to Walter.
However (!))… the site REFUSES to give me pages 814 & 815 where Walter would be. It continually jumps from p.813 to 816, omitting p.814 & 815. All all I get for them is this: “Sorry, this page’s content is restricted.” Huh?
Walt, as I find (elsewhere) is often an abbreviation of Walther, a German surname; and Wald can also be short for Waldo. There’s no evidence that it’s specifically Jewish, but some Jews do use the names Waldo and Walther/Walters.
http://genealogy.about.com/library/surnames/w/bl_name-WALTER.htm
25 January, 2009 at 1:23 pm
Also, do note that the author’s middle name is Walter. I hadn’t even noticed that at first.
26 January, 2009 at 1:09 am
qw:
The ending “heimer” in a German name means being from a place that ends with “heim”, let’s say Miersheim, hence Miersheimer and Anglizised Mearsheimer. That form of name is very common for Jews, i.e., identification by place of origin or residency. There is a Jew in Nuremberg, Arno Hamburger, a denouncer, and his name indicates being from Hamburg (his ancestors); etc. This seems to reflect how Jews were identified in the past when they travelled or moved. Whether the names were given by non-Jews or Jews is not clear to me.
I find, however, that a family name that indicates a geographical origin is a rather reliable identifier of its bearer as a Jew.
26 January, 2009 at 1:49 am
I think you’re right, Walter. A last name that indicates a geographical part of Germany can be a tip-off that you’ve got a you-know-who on your hands. Ex: Konigsberg, Reich, Bacharach, Leipzig, Berlinsky, Danziger, Frankfurter, Kupfurberg, Guttenberg……………all are relatively common Jewish surnames derived from German locales.
26 January, 2009 at 7:28 am
“However, there was a famous Jewish Hollywood screenplay writer named Waldo Salt ”
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Of course, there’s a million possibilities, but “Salt” just doesn’t sound right. It’s incomplete. It could have been Salter or Saltzberger, Saltzman, somehting like that.
26 January, 2009 at 5:31 pm
Kissinger also!