16 February, 2009
No Anti-Semites. Just Anti-Europeans.
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Every White nationalist should hopefully be aware of the Duke/Hart incident, especially since Duke apparently didn’t say the word “Jews”:
16 February, 2009 at 10:33 pm
jews are so stupidly arrogant they believe they can bluster or manage-control their way out of anything and all opposition or criticism can be verbally reduced to “hate”.
That means criticising jews, even when they do evil, is evil so that’s more proof of their God-like supremacist delusions.
16 February, 2009 at 10:56 pm
I’m not a big fan of the Majority Rights web site. They love to turn their nose up at the Nazis, but, yet, only the Nazis ever took the Communists on. Hitler at least put his money where his mouth was and fought the Soviets in an actual shooting war. Even though the Soviet Union would eventually fall apart, Marxism, especially in the cultural sphere, has triumphed. So many people, especially in conservative circles, have failed to see this.
17 February, 2009 at 12:39 am
As I understand it, MR is based in Britain. And it seems to me that the British are even more brainwashed and deep in the mire than the USA. I don’t know just why it is so…. probably it’ s that the Jews have been in control there longer, have their tentacles deeper, and have had more time to work on the populace. They have also thoroughly infiltrated the ruling class. To a lot of British people, Churchill is still a virtual god and above criticism, and Hitler is still the arch fiend of all time.
Even the more enlightened British who are gradually opening their eyes have a hard time coming to face the realization that they were horribly duped in two genocidal world wars that ruined their country and set them up for extinction. It’s just too hard for them to face that. They keep grasping at other explanations.
Of course, to acknowledge it would make them pariahs in their own country and is probably illegal too, or damn close to it.
17 February, 2009 at 1:53 am
I guess Chrchill may be edited out of the final editon of Civitas Dei. When England went Protestant and Judeo-Freemasonic with Cromwell and the Orangemen it was just a racial move? Since “western civilization is a racial construct.”
Cromwellian iconoclasm and the Bank of Englan 1694 are racially motivated?
17 February, 2009 at 1:55 am
“what motivated Michael Hart to organize the conference in the first place was the desire to discuss the threats to Western civilization without having to deal with Israel-haters, anti-Semites, and Nazi types such as were predominant at the 2006 American Renaissance conference, where Mr. Hart, after a diatribe by David Duke, righteously told Duke that he was a Nazi who had disgraced the meeting, and then walked out.”
That is a distortion of truth. It is simply false. As time goes by, it is being converted and twisted into a legend. To my memory, Duke who was only a guest there, not a speaker, made a mere comment referring to “those who control the media”. Other guests then exclaimed, “Tell us, tell us!” Duke, realizing that this was Taylor’s conference and knowing Taylor’s policy regarding Jews, DECLINED to explain or to say anything further.
It was the reference to the media that set this whole thing off. Obviously, to certain persons, that is a red-hot topic, just like the Holocaust, which must not be discussed. It is completely out of bounds. Anyone who brings it up is branded as a Nazi and not worthy of serious attention.
THERE WAS NO “DIATRIBE”, other than from Mr. Hart, who came up to Duke and said to him, “You fuckin Nazi!” Duke remained silent and DID NOT REPLY. He remained composed and did not take up the challenge. Hart then stormed out in a petty huff.
There was no argument and there was no diatribe (from Duke), and to say so now is utterly dishonest. The only “scene” created there was by Michael Hart — who confronted and cursed at another guest, caused a scene, and who is now being portrayed as the victim!
(Just their Standard Operating Procedure.)
17 February, 2009 at 10:11 am
We cannot bring ourselves out of the cesspool without acknowledging that it was Jews who pushed us in.
Why should we turn a blind eye to what organized Jewry has done and continues to do? Because some will react hysterically? There is no good reason not to address a problem which is so instrinsic to freeing our people.
17 February, 2009 at 1:49 pm
“Western Civilization is a racial construct, not a religious or philosophical one.
Philosophies can be adapted and updated. Religions can be adopted or abandoned. But Race is the only concrete thing upon which Western Civilization truly stands….past, present and (hopefully) future.”
? From the comments in the article link.
When a Nazi shoots himself in the foot it’s only a racial issue?
St. Augustine’s contribution to Western Civilization is simply a racial one?
17 February, 2009 at 2:19 pm
Does anyone for half a second think non-jewish elites wouldn’t have also sold us out using the exact same arguments and tactics, if jews hadn’t existed?
Does anyone for half a second think taking on the elites with control of the military, the money power, the media, and public opinion head on is a winning proposition?
Does anyone for half a second think women would not have used the vote and the pill to completely upset the previous natural order if jews didn’t exist?
17 February, 2009 at 2:50 pm
Diamed: “Does anyone for half a second think non-jewish elites wouldn’t have also sold us out using the exact same arguments and tactics, if jews hadn’t existed?”
Have you read anything by Kevin MacDonald? Do you take his propositions seriously?
“Does anyone for half a second think taking on the elites with control of the military, the money power, the media, and public opinion head on is a winning proposition?”
Jews were a necessary but not sufficient (i.e., Jews couldn’t have done it without the collaboration of White gentiles) condition for the existential crisis our race faces.
“Does anyone for half a second think women would not have used the vote and the pill to completely upset the previous natural order if jews didn’t exist?”
Eugenics and Darwinism were well on their way to being mainstreamed in America before WWII; abortion is today used eugenically to abort fetuses with detected birth defects. Before the advent of “the pill,” during the Great Depression, the birth rate of White Americans was just above replacement level, it is not substantially below replacement level now.
Btw, around fifty percent of abortion doctors are Jews.
Why are you looking for every rationalization under the sun to cover for Jews, oh ye of the Turner Diaries?
Come along, answer my questions, now.
17 February, 2009 at 4:41 pm
Btw, around fifty percent of abortion doctors are Jews.
I hadn’t known that (not that I’m disputing you one bit), but it figures. Where I live, I notice a lot of them are Pakistanis or whatever.
On the other side of the reproductive picture, consider this interesting fact: Most donors to sperm banks are medical students, according to what I have read. And in turn, a very heavy percentage of medical students “just happen” to be Jews — far in excess of their percentage of the population. Thus, while they are aborting YOUR genes, they are getting more of THEIR genes into the next generation. Even into your family. Think of it. Cunning strategy or just accident?
17 February, 2009 at 6:17 pm
Jews and abortion:
http://www.cwporter.com/abortindex.htm
17 February, 2009 at 8:18 pm
I was at the 2006 AmRen conference, and David Duke was an absolute class act.
Michael Hart was just another whiney Jew.
As for his s***y little confrence in Baltimore, it couldn’t be anything less than ridiculous,and it’s a shame that Phil Rushton and Brimelow would attend, becuase it runs contrary to ingroup outgroup theory.
A bunch of white Europeans with high IQ’s turning on “excessive” white European ethnocentrism, while at the same time coddling up to one side of the semite on semite conflict.
Likewise they seem to forget all about what the Jews did to the Russian people (genetic white Europeans) so as not to offend their selective favorite semites the Jews.
Meanwhile Turks are genetically closer to Europeans and yet these philosemite make the Jews honorary white Europeans.
Either way it’s obviously too absurd for words. I plan on attending the next Amren conference and bringing up this issue in front of the attendees.
17 February, 2009 at 9:03 pm
Look, Captainchaos, let’s get something straight. I love William Pierce, I love the Turner Diaries. I think it’s great. I also realize it’s a work of fiction. It’s a work of fiction that does not in any way reflect the real world. What happened in the turner diaries, is not what is happening in the real world, nor what will happen in the real world. The difference between 2 year olds, and adults, is they can tell the difference between reality and fiction. For one thing, in the Turner Diaries, everything they did was in self defense, as a reaction to a malevolent System that kept trying to reconquer and recontrol them no matter what they did to try and free themselves. For another, the soviet union still existed. For a third, Pierce never imagined the racial dynamics of the United States, or Europe, would be the way they are today. His formula was for a completely different world, and has nothing to do with the one we live in. Fourth, his pie in the sky miracle win is not something worth risking in the real world, as only the power of the Author could have kept the scenario turn out as well as the story did. Until you can tell the difference between loving Pierce and the Turner Diaries, and the real world and how we should think, speak, and act in it, you need to give up on your soapbox.
I love how in your imbecilic, childish head you think inconsistency or hypocrisy lies behind every rock just ready for your honest light to discover it. That’s not the case. Instead you simply lack the mental agility, the mental nuance, to discover the rich world of thought out there where people can make distinctions, can realize not everything is simple or clear-cut, and can develop their thinking freely not encumbered by what they thought before or will think later. So, I ask my questions again, and this time I want serious answers where people don’t try to attack the questioner with ‘hypocrite’ or ‘ignorant,’ but actually think to themselves, in their heads, for ten seconds, huh what about these important factors we’ve been ignoring?
As to your pathetic attempt at a reply to the questions –
1. Yes I’ve read Macdonald, a smart, great guy. I don’t take my marching orders from any other thinker though. So, how about answering the question? Do you think no other elite, that the jews alone are the only unique elite that ever would have turned on its masses, that no other elite in history has ever abused its underlings or would do anything similar to what the jewish elite is doing to their masses today?
2. Were jews necessary? I don’t buy it. Race replacement immigration and demographic implosion is occurring all around the world, whether it’s full of jews or not the same trend will exist. Cheap labor has flooded into Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates just like it has the US and the UK. Countries without any jews at all, countries that even hate and detest jews, still follow the same pattern as countries with jews. But the real question, that you didn’t answer, is do you think it’s wise to attack any ruling elite, jewish or not, head on? Do you really want to free or save our people, and your plan is to stride into central park and declare war on the ruling elites? You have your gallant heart and say a handgun, they have the army, the police, the press, the presidency, congress, the courts, most of the money, and the massive support of the people at large. So, is it really a good idea to attack them head on? Or perhaps it would be better to coopt them, to intermarry with them and weld our interests together, to give them a good deal, to make them an offer so good they can’t refuse, and we both win? Maybe a compromise, maybe an alternate arrangement, maybe something even slightly better for whites is in order, from such a weak position? Or, I know, we can uselessly hurl ourselves at the entrenched, fortified, massively overpowered jewish trench lines and like World War One fools die by the hundreds of thousands in minutes, not gaining an inch of ground. So long as it’s intellectually consistent it’s up your alley?
3. Birth control isn’t the source of demographic decline, overall changing technology that allowed women to enter the workforce was, including the lowering of the infant mortality rate and the curing of childhood diseases. Women don’t have to have nearly as many kids when they all live, you see? What the pill did do is separate love from sex, which destroyed the concept of sex only within marriage, which created the illegitimacy and divorce waves we endure today. Changing technology which gave them economic strength necessitated giving them commensurate political strength, which then turned this world into a pro-woman system that largely threw men under the bus. This pro-woman system of no-fault divorce, easy access to adulterous affairs, no shame in having out-of-wedlock sex and kids, welfare and financial support no matter what mistakes and immoral deeds they do, has created chaos for the kids, financial disasters and heartbreak for the men, and created a moral vacuum that continues to spiral out of control worse and worse each generation as they imbibe the horrible lessons of their parents and reproduce them on an ever-grander scale. The jews didn’t do any of this, they didn’t need to, the evil lay in the hearts of women all along — waiting to be unleashed the moment they had the power to mold things into an unjust, women-favored world they always wanted. Just like the evil of men who molded things unjustly towards the way they wanted it existed for centuries beforehand because they never had to consult or compromise with women. The pendulum has swung too far to the other side in this righting of ancient wrongs and we are still trying to regain our equilibrium that empowering women was meant to be shooting for. And this unbalanced, evil situation has NOTHING TO DO WITH JEWS. Now, I’m asking you, do you think that with no jews on earth, women gaining the pill, the vote, and joining the workforce would not have had any impact on the natural world order? That we’d all be fine and dandy, that no crisis whatsoever would be afflicting white nations today? If not, think for ten seconds, or even half a second, what this means. Then think for ten seconds why blaming the jews for all our problems is so counterproductive, as it only alienates good people who see how inherently unjust and thus HATEFUL white nationalism is, because it seeks to scapegoat all our problems onto jews who are wholly innocent of said charges. Blame SOME jews for SOME problems, recognize we have our OWN problems and take responsibility, then recognize we must somehow make peace with the PEOPLE or the POWERFUL if we want any of our program to occur. Stop fighting and start wooing. Get it? Get in bed with SOMEONE. The PEOPLE or the POWERFUL. Say what they want to hear. Give them what they want to have. But don’t make enemies out of them both, by God what a short revolution it will be. Fools should simply sit still, be quiet, and let their betters do their thinking for them. This is too important to let children drive.
17 February, 2009 at 9:05 pm
Oh and abortion is a good thing that largely affects non-whites, and is the saving grace of America as otherwise we would already be a majority non-white country. So thanks Jews, you saved us. You are our saviors. I love you jews, you killed tens of millions of blacks before they were ever born, and you got away with it clean. You are my heroes.
17 February, 2009 at 9:56 pm
Diamed,
I have urged the infiltration option for a long time. Perhaps we can wrest control of the system from the Jews as the current ruling class dies off. But I’m not holding my breath.
What you are urging sounds too much like compromise. We cannot compromise; we’ve no leverage. Any “compromise” would only benefit our enemies.
If you fancy yourself the adult in the driver’s seat, start acting the part. Going soft on the Jews for their undeniable role in our troubles is not the kind of leadership we need.
18 February, 2009 at 12:07 am
Diamed: “The difference between 2 year olds, and adults, is they can tell the difference between reality and fiction.”
You are the one who held the line for a good while that a Turner Diaries type scenario was our only hope. That has never been my position, it was yours, yet you claim it is mine. There is something of character that you lack; namely honesty, ironic too, that you claimed for yourself a level of that quality verging on the heroic.
“I love how in your imbecilic, childish head you think inconsistency or hypocrisy lies behind every rock just ready for your honest light to discover it. That’s not the case.”
There is a difference between pragmatism and betraying all principles; when one betrays one’s principles for no gain, in the face of what will result in certain ruin, that is cowardice. Or is it treachery?
“Yes I’ve read Macdonald, a smart, great guy. I don’t take my marching orders from any other thinker though.”
So you take your marching orders exclusively from MacDonald? LOL! I kid, I kid, a poorly worded sentence on your part – but of course. All kidding aside, I guess your meaning. You make the grave error of not taking MacDonald seriously, when all serious thinkers, in all times where peoples have been pressed up against the Jews, have virtually unanimously agreed with him; the Jews are a plague. You urge us to ignore the true threat they pose to our people at our peril; I now doubt it is to your peril.
“Do you think no other elite, that the jews alone are the only unique elite that ever would have turned on its masses, that no other elite in history has ever abused its underlings or would do anything similar to what the jewish elite is doing to their masses today?”
What is the price of Karrangian Tipea in Diamedia? Your question is irrelevant. It is, significantly, the Jews that pose a threat to us now.
“Race replacement immigration and demographic implosion is occurring all around the world, whether it’s full of jews or not the same trend will exist.”
Other lands are not being flooded with race-replacement level immigration, guest workers yes, but not the former. Your saying it is distinct from it being true.
“Cheap labor has flooded into Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates just like it has the US and the UK. Countries without any jews at all, countries that even hate and detest jews, still follow the same pattern as countries with jews.”
Read some of the posts of Robert Reis of MR, who teaches in the Middle East; he averrs that those Arabic countries treat their migrant help as such.
“But the real question, that you didn’t answer, is do you think it’s wise to attack any ruling elite, jewish or not, head on?”
We will bide our time until we are strong enough to do just that, yes. We must eventually, they will never give in, there is no other choice.
“Or perhaps it would be better to coopt them, to intermarry with them and weld our interests together, to give them a good deal, to make them an offer so good they can’t refuse, and we both win?”
I don’t think you fully understand that Jews are not rational actors. They truly cannot help themselves. They are evolved for group parasitism by way of dominance through subversion; even at the cost of killing their host.
“Or, I know, we can uselessly hurl ourselves at the entrenched, fortified, massively overpowered jewish trench lines and like World War One fools die by the hundreds of thousands in minutes, not gaining an inch of ground.”
The ‘fortifications’ in their “trench lines” are other Whites. We need a critical mass of Whites to do the job. I highly doubt enough Whites would be willing to die for the Jews once the winds are blowing our way.
“So long as it’s intellectually consistent it’s up your alley?”
So long as it’s not intellectually consistent it’s up your alley?
“Birth control isn’t the source of demographic decline, overall changing technology that allowed women to enter the workforce was, including the lowering of the infant mortality rate and the curing of childhood diseases.”
The National Socialists had technocratic solutions to ‘women in the workforce’ that worked. If it worked then, it can work now. Why are you making this so easy?
“And this unbalanced, evil situation has NOTHING TO DO WITH JEWS.”
Re-read MacDonald’s Culture of Critique.
“Now, I’m asking you, do you think that with no jews on earth, women gaining the pill, the vote, and joining the workforce would not have had any impact on the natural world order?”
Jews are substantially to blame for pathologizing the very simple technocratic solutions to these problems.
“If not, think for ten seconds, or even half a second, what this means. Then think for ten seconds why blaming the jews for all our problems is so counterproductive, as it only alienates good people who see how inherently unjust and thus HATEFUL white nationalism is, because it seeks to scapegoat all our problems onto jews who are wholly innocent of said charges.”
And this, Pleading for a Respite of Decency, and offering the Dogma of Jewish Innocence, from the man who a short while back exhorted the extermination of all non-Whites; you have no shame.
“But don’t make enemies out of them both, by God what a short revolution it will be. Fools should simply sit still, be quiet, and let their betters do their thinking for them. This is too important to let children drive.”
You truly do fear them, or you are one of them. Either way, I pity you. There can never be, ultimately, any compromise with our mortal enemies.
“Oh and abortion is a good thing that largely affects non-whites, and is the saving grace of America as otherwise we would already be a majority non-white country.”
I’ll allow you to at least pretend you have enlightened me to the downward pressure abortion has had on non-White birth rates.
18 February, 2009 at 2:19 am
Cheap labor in Saudi Arabia is “managed” by the government and removed once the work is finished. Cheap labor in the US quickly begins collecting social services even if “it” keeps working. The jews are an incredibly hostile elite dedicated to wiping European whites off the planet. Look at their actions. Technology didn’t put women in the workplace. A change in culture did. Period. I could go on, but this guy is so disingenuous it would take all night to shovel the b.s. back into his corner. Or maybe he’s just scared.
18 February, 2009 at 3:04 am
Krystian says:
“Diamed, What you are urging sounds too much like compromise. We cannot compromise; we’ve no leverage. Any “compromise” would only benefit our enemies.”
Interesting arguments here, but I am not swayed by Diamed’s line of reasoning. Incidentally, I have pondered the same question for a very long time in my own head, so it is not an unfamilar notion to me that came suddenly from out of the blue and which I’m rejecting out of hand, without any thought.
As for a compromise, that can only work both ways when both sides are honest and fair with each other. Otherwise, compromise for one becomes capitulation for the other. You can’t compromise with someone who’s determined always to get the upper hand in the deal, to get 90% of the benefit and let you have perhaps the other 10. Can we really expect to get a fair and equal deal from a tribe of notorious bargain-drivers from whom you wouldn’t buy a used camel?
Diamed says, “perhaps it would be better to coopt them, to intermarry with them and weld our interests together, to give them a good deal, to make them an offer so good they can’t refuse, and we both win? ” I must say that I don’t find that an attractive or acceptable solution. That’s giving up. Why shouldn’t we also intermarry with the blacks and coopt them that way? It would reduce racial tension, would it not? I say no! It’s not acceptable, because “we” would no longer be us.
Furthermore, what is this “good dea’l that we’re supposed to give them? Don’t they already have a very good deal here? An EXTREMELY good deal, in fact. How much better (for them) does it have to get? And whatever gets better for them is at our expense.
I DO agree with Diamed that many a ruling elite would gladly sell out its underlings to further enhance their own power and wealth. Given a chance, elites do all the time. And so, yes, they would (and do) engage in race-replacement. (Maybe they’d feel a little more reluctance if it’s to their own people.) But that still doesn’t mean that it’s all right for the Jews to do it because if they didn’t, someone else would do it anyway. You might as well say the same of rape or robbery.
I don’t want to poke into what seems to be an old and very personal dispute between Diamed and Chaos, but I will point out to Diamed that his belligerant style of arguing is his own worst enemy. It’s also quite Jewish. Jews are notorious for being nasty opponents.
He says that he wants “serious answers where people don’t try to attack the questioner with ‘hypocrite’ or ‘ignorant,’ but actually think to themselves, in their heads, for ten seconds” — which sounds all very fine, but then he says that — “you simply lack the mental agility, the mental nuance, to discover the rich world of thought” and he further speaks of Chaos’ “pathetic attempt at a reply” and refers to his “imbecilic, childish head.”
Is that what he considers a serious argument where people don’t try to attack each other with personal invective? Is that any way to win arguments and make friends? Sorry, that kind of “argument” turns me off in an instant and loses whatever sympathy he might otherwise have had. Chaos conducts the more civil debate.
I do appreciate the value of hearing opposing points of view, and I think it’s important that all sides of an issue should be heard, even those I don’t care for. No opinion should be silenced. But in the end, I am not persuaded by Diamed’s proposal of compromise, whatever that would be. (Incidentally, have the Jews ever expressed any interest in compromise? Why should they want to when they – a mere 2% of the population – already have most of the pie?)
18 February, 2009 at 3:53 am
Eh, I tried to be civil and get out of his way, but he chases me around the world’s forums and throws the same stale, false charges in my face over and over. He needed a stern talking to or it would never stop.
If you think saudi arabia has ‘control’ over the situation just because they are ‘guest workers’ you’re hopelessly naive. Apartheid had ‘control’ over the situation, after all the blacks were just second class citizens. Rhodesia had ‘control’ over the situation. The South had ‘control’ over their slaves. Serbia had ‘control’ over Yugoslavia under Tito. The Soviet Union had ‘control’ over their periphery. It doesn’t matter what you call heterogeneity, cheap labor, or quasi-states within the state, you may think you have control over it, but you never do. Saudi Arabia and the UAE can’t control something this basic and insidious–they have come to rely on cheap labor, the servants, and they would be helpless without it. They can never separate from their non-racial demographics now, and those demographics are much worse than anything Europe or the US has imported. If people here are suggesting it’s not really a problem to be a majority non-white country, it’s just a problem to be a majority non-white country that isn’t practicing apartheid/slavery/serfdom — you’re remarkably myopic historically, and I was never aware it was our goal to turn non-whites into second class citizens and then everything would be fine, and we hate jews for not letting us turn non-whites into our slaves and serfs we can abuse like the Saudis and UAE abuse their hired help, silly me. I thought we wanted homogeneity.
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/ae.html#People
“Emirati 19%, other Arab and Iranian 23%, South Asian 50%, other expatriates (includes Westerners and East Asians) 8% (1982)
note: less than 20% are UAE citizens (1982) ”
No jews did this to the UAE.
Now, there are no technocratic solutions to the breakdown of the home, because it is wealth itself that led to it. The only technocratic solution would be to restore poverty. So I’m confused as to what nazi tactics you’re referring to. Nazis tried to keep women in the home and did not employ them nearly as much as Americans did in their factories during the war, it was part of why they lost — no full mobilization of labor resources until around 1943, far too late to make a difference.
Next, when 2% of hte population intermarries with 63% of the population, what you get is not a halfway inbetween result. You get a massively 63% person, and a tinily 2% person. This is why intermarriage and giving the jews a good deal is easy, cheap, and much more effective than opposing them or making them the big bad guy. It isn’t the same as blacks who are 12% of the population, hispanics who are 13%, etc. Though this tactic could also be used on Asians if they were currently the ruling elite. Blacks never have any military, press, money, or public sympathy however, so we have nothing to gain treating them respectfully or equally. Jews have all these things. We have to respect that, we don’t have to respect blacks.
18 February, 2009 at 3:58 am
I’m going to blow the lid off Diamud now.
Salient features of Diamud’s posts here and on other boards has been:
1) Counseling a rash resort to Turner Diaries style guerrilla warfare as the only hope with defeat near certain.
2) Recommending psychological disarmament to Jews, cooperation with Jews, inter-marriage with Jews.
3) Attempts to stifle criticism of himself with appeals to ‘respectfulness’ and an ‘atmosphere of comfort’ suitable for an ‘exchange of ideas’.
4) The proposition that only high intelligence really matters (i.e., “cognitive elitism”), so preserving the White race, as such, is not of the highest priority.
5) Counseling hopelessness and despair.
6) Maudlin appeals to the White man’s unique pity to stop being so “hateful”.
7) Offering ‘conclusions’ couched in technical language ‘supported’ by ‘facts’ that do anything but: sophistry.
8) Appeals for exclusion of other peoples from the lives of Whites, but never exclusion of Jews.
Lastly, Diamud betrays his fear, fear either of Jews or for Jews, because, Diamud is either a Jew or a shabbos goy.
18 February, 2009 at 4:29 am
VNN must have been very successful in attracting attention in recent times!
So much that alarm bells apparently have rung at ADL and related circles listening in here.
And- no surprise, no surprise at all- the distractors, subverters, saboteurs are now flocking to this site, secretly attempting to kill it before it is too late.
Their tedious arguments, rude attacks ad hominem, double speak, swamping space in repetitions, awful sentences and similar tricks are well discernible and supposed to exhaust the patience of readers, obviously designed to scare them away.
The debate above is a good example.
I think Alex will have a job to do, realize that tolerance of comments has limits and in future flush out shit stirrers as soon they are recognized.
18 February, 2009 at 5:12 am
Diamud: “Eh, I tried to be civil and get out of his way, but he chases me around the world’s forums and throws the same stale, false charges in my face over and over. He needed a stern talking to or it would never stop.”
I’ve got your number, half-wit (see above). You are a fraud. I chase you around? LOL! Paranoia, so fitting of a Jew, or a Judeophile (wishes he could be part of the club).
“If you think saudi arabia has ‘control’ over the situation just because they are ‘guest workers’ you’re hopelessly naive.”
That is their official designation, no? Why cannot these workers be repatriated?
“Saudi Arabia and the UAE can’t control something this basic and insidious–they have come to rely on cheap labor, the servants, and they would be helpless without it.”
I don’t think you fully understand just how lowly Arabs view there help. If push came to shove, they would get rid of them, without hesitation. Besides, if their peoplehood came to matter more to them than “life-style” they would make the necessary sacrifices to transition towards self-sufficiency.
Now here is a beautiful example of Diamud’s sophistry, or idiocy, you be the judge: “Serbia had ‘control’ over Yugoslavia under Tito. The Soviet Union had ‘control’ over their periphery. It doesn’t matter what you call heterogeneity, cheap labor, or quasi-states within the state, you may think you have control over it,”
Those empires balkanized, i.e., totalitarian pressure was needed to hold them together.
“They can never separate from their non-racial demographics now, and those demographics are much worse than anything Europe or the US has imported.”
LOL! Didn’t you just get done talking about balkanized empires? It is not the impossibility of separation that is the worry, it is the inevitability of separation, and how bloody it will be, that is the key concern.
“If people here are suggesting it’s not really a problem to be a majority non-white country, it’s just a problem to be a majority non-white country that isn’t…”
You are putting that trope into our mouths, fuckwit.
“…that isn’t practicing apartheid/slavery/serfdom — you’re remarkably myopic historically, and I was never aware it was our goal to turn non-whites into second class citizens and then everything would be fine,”
More of your ‘atrocity’ scare-mongering to shame us into submission; how Jewish.
“…and we hate jews for not letting us turn non-whites into our slaves and serfs…”
Ding, ding, ding! I think we have a Jew on our hands. LOL! You mean like how the Jews sexually enslave White Slavic girls? Go fuck yourself!
“I thought we wanted homogeneity.”
But you just got done telling us “homogeneity” was a pipe dream, Schlomo.
“No jews did this to the UAE.”
You mean Jews are not one of the driving forces behind international capitalism? That’s news to me. Do tell.
“Now, there are no technocratic solutions to the breakdown of the home, because it is wealth itself that led to it. The only technocratic solution would be to restore poverty.”
Utter, transparent nonsense. Racial separation for Whites would guarantee more wealth for them, because, separation does not preclude inter-racial trade; otherwise, how does the global economy function now?
“So I’m confused as to what nazi tactics you’re referring to. Nazis tried to keep women in the home and did not employ them nearly as much as Americans did in their factories during the war, it was part of why they lost — no full mobilization of labor resources until around 1943, far too late to make a difference.”
You are assuming a permanent war footing, ridiculous straw man. Where do you get this shit, fuckhead?
“This is why intermarriage and giving the jews a good deal is easy, cheap, and much more effective than opposing them or making them the big bad guy.”
Many Jews would still not inter-marry. Those Whites that did would be bound to the Jews who would, together, form a new oligarchic class that would throw the rest of Whites to the wolves. I see through you like nobody’s business.
“Though this tactic could also be used on Asians if they were currently the ruling elite.”
Now you recommend miscegenation with Asians, genocidalist. You want elite Whites to become bound to the new muliti-racial oligarchic class, sacrificing those Jews who would have left the race anyway, with those Jews of pure blood still pulling the strings in the background. Shithead.
“We have to respect that, we don’t have to respect blacks.”
What of your touching desire to not see Blacks mistreated? Oh, yeah, it was just an attempt to shame the goyim into submission, that’s right. Fucking moron.
I would like to shake your hand, er, I mean spit in your face.
18 February, 2009 at 5:36 am
Hey, Diamed, I’d like to tell you a little story. Once I met a Jew, with an Ivy League Ph.D. After a little back and forth, do you know what he said to me?
“Your brain works better than mine.”
No wonder you filthy Jews never built a civilization, with that kind of slop that you pass off as ‘argumentation’ being indicative of the quality of the rest of your works. For example: the transparent fraud that is your Holohoax.
One last thing, Diamoron, I’m of Germanic descent. You were bested by a German; that’s right, you piece of shit. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
18 February, 2009 at 8:20 am
“…and we hate jews for not letting us turn non-whites into our slaves and serfs…”
That’s nonsense. I am not aware that any of us have some lurking desire to have slaves and serfs. (The Jews would relish that though.) We, to the contrary, would be quite happy if those persons would just go away and leave us in peace. That’s really all we want. We don’t want them us around us at all.
Many Jews would still not inter-marry. Those Whites that did would be bound to the Jews who would, together, form a new oligarchic class that would throw the rest of Whites to the wolves. I see through you like nobody’s business.
Yes, correct. They don’t have any wish, really, to intermarry with the general white population, What they do wish is to impose themselves UPON that white population as the new ruling class, our new aristocracy …. which they could do by selective intermarriage with just a few. In every country, from ancient Egypt and Persia to modern Britain and America, despite their inter-marriage prohibitions, they have always sought to marry into the nobility, allowing that exception, while frowning on any mixing with the common folk.
Thus, intermarriage as an option – even if available (with the exception of taking the most attractive females) – is not what they want. To own us and rule us is what they want.
You want elite Whites to become bound to the new muliti-racial oligarchic class.”
I think you’ve identified what Diamed wants (although that may not necessarily be what Jewish leadership would ideally want, for themselves that is).
Ding, ding, ding! I think we have a Jew on our hands. LOL!
Paranoia, so fitting of a Jew, or a Judeophile (wishes he could be part of the club).
Lastly, Diamud betrays his fear, fear either of Jews or for Jews, because, Diamud is either a Jew or a shabbos goy.
Yes, I agree, there’s something about Diamed’s arguments that gives off a strong kosher odor. It gets more intense with time. He’s at least a part-Jew or married to a Jew.
18 February, 2009 at 12:49 pm
“Were jews necessary? I don’t buy it”
“The jews didn’t do any of this,”
“And this unbalanced, evil situation has NOTHING TO DO WITH JEWS”
“jews who are wholly innocent of said charges”
18 February, 2009 at 3:14 pm
“And this unbalanced, evil situation has NOTHING TO DO WITH JEWS.”
Feminism was pioneered by Jews and was a critical part of the assault on White culture which reached a fever pitch during the 1960s – a majority of the top feminists are Jews: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Jewish_feminists
18 February, 2009 at 3:56 pm
mrcrouton Says:
“I plan on attending the next Amren conference and bringing up this issue in front of the attendees.”
Good luck to you. Be sure to be well prepared; and above all, despite any provocation, retain your composure and do not respond to obscenities or personal insults. There surely will be some. Do not you allow yourself to be drawn into any confrontation. If it happens, refuse to engage.
Even so, you may be invited to leave (that’s putting it mildly) and you will go down on the record forever after as having given a “diatribe” and staging a scene by insulting and attacking other perfectly innocent members.
There will then be a ruling made against any more atttendees like you. There will be demands (from you know who) for better screening to eliminate those with evil views like yours. There have been such calls all along, and this would be their opportunity to effect the new philo-semitic policy.
18 February, 2009 at 4:38 pm
Jared Taylor’s wife is Jewish. Evelyn Rich is her maiden name.
18 February, 2009 at 4:39 pm
Diamud is obviously a Jewish plant.
Captainchaos did a nice job of tearing him to pieces.
;-)
18 February, 2009 at 4:46 pm
So “Hart” can be a Jewish name? I didn’t know that. Interesting.
18 February, 2009 at 7:29 pm
“So “Hart” can be a Jewish name?
Absolutely!
Hart is very often a Jewish name (maybe always).
I once had a Jewish neighbor by that name. I’ve never known a gentile by that name.
I don’t know about Evelyn Rich — one way or the other. I admit, I have to wonder. It could explain a lot about Jarod Taylor. The name could have been Reich or Reichman before it got anlicized.
18 February, 2009 at 7:30 pm
“anglicized”, I mean.
18 February, 2009 at 7:44 pm
Re. Taylor — I’ve said this before, but it’s worth repeating and I can’t say it enough: You have to look not only at a person’s own geneology, but also at whom he goes to bed with.
Very often, the answer to the puzzle is in the bedroom.
(That applies not only to Jews, but very much to Blacks and others as well. I’ve noticed that many a political conversion has taken place in bed. That’s especially where a lot of naive young white women “see the light”. And some nerdy, sex-starved white men too.)
18 February, 2009 at 7:51 pm
Yes, gw, it’s the same situation with the well known patriotard radio talk show host Alex Jones. He won’t dare name the Jew or discuss the Jewish Question at all.
The reason? He’s married to a Jewish woman.
I’ve seen this movie before. ;-)
18 February, 2009 at 7:52 pm
“Rich” is always a Jewish surname, from what I know.
18 February, 2009 at 7:54 pm
Holy crap.
Soundex:
593000
Name:
HART
Databases:
ABCFGHJKMNOPQRTVXYZbgilop
18 February, 2009 at 7:58 pm
Here you go, gw. “Rich” is in LOTS of databases in the Avotaynu CJSI.
Soundex:
950000
Name:
RICH
Databases: CDIJKOQRSTXZabdgiop
18 February, 2009 at 8:05 pm
“. . .many a political conversion has taken place in bed. . .”
As philosopher C. Pride aptly put it:
KISS AN ANGEL GOOD MORNING
LOVE HER LIKE THE DEVIL WHEN YOU GET BACK HOME
18 February, 2009 at 9:21 pm
GW
“Even so, you may be invited to leave.”
I’ve been to 4 Am Ren conferences, and frequently have brought up the Jewish issue during Q&A.
At the first one Taylor was complaining about the media and I reminded him that Jews run the media.
During the last conference I brought up to the gubby inbred Jew Paul Gottfied that it was obvious that Nicholas Sarkozy was a Mossad agent and ripped Mexcan loving Fred Reed an ahole when I asked hime whether he advocated white men marrying mexican women.
Either way I love tossing verbal hand grenades into the crowd, and you’d be amazed at the amount of adda boys I get during the coffee break.
There’s nothing to fear there, among what… academic pussies?.
I look forward to ball busting next year.
18 February, 2009 at 9:44 pm
Here you go, gw. “Rich” is in LOTS of databases
The name “Ritch” would have to be anglicised from Reich/Reichmann, as there is no “rich” in German.
(However, Ritchy is an English name, like Goody or Goodman, originally meaning a person of wealth or goods.)
There is a Julia Richman high school in NY City. I always assumed she was Jewish. I looked it up.
Julia was born to Moses Richman and became the first [female] superintendent of schools in NYC. “Her father coaxed her into teaching part time at the temple Sabbath school. Richman was very active in the Council of Jewish Women. Julia Richman was deeply interested in Jewish religious affairs. She had come from a long line of rabbis in Prague dating back to the fifteenth century.”
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/biography/richman.html
Incidentally, here’s another of those mysterious cases where a person with little but a shirt on his/her back suddely becomes a renowned scholar/statesman or whatever and apparently has unlimited funds.
Julia was one of five children. Her father was a glazier and housepainter. There is no mention that she had any husband, either rich or poor. Nonetheless, somehow, she got the education to beat out all other contenders for the position and take charge of the NYC public schools, at a time when women did not hold such positions. Then we read next that she traveled frequently, spending much time aboad. This was at time when travel abroad was COSTLY! and limited to the rich. She died in 1912 aboard a steamer bound for France.
Haven’t we seen this kind of story before?
20 February, 2009 at 2:27 am
Doesn’t it bother the colored kids and their mammies that the NYC public school system is almost completely made up of non-White students, yet Jewesses are always the Superintendents?
21 February, 2009 at 4:54 pm
Don’t Yids have a very high incidence of paedophilia? I’m just sayin’…
21 February, 2009 at 5:53 pm
Of course, the liberal Jewesses who run the NYC public fool system aren’t White, either. And it goes almost without saying that their own kids, their precious little Marvins, Shlomos and Miriams, are educated at some exclusive private school in midtown Manhattan, not PS 51 in the Bronx, or Eldridge Cleaver HS in Brooklyn.
Is it any wonder DuShawn Jackson and Umberto Hernandez can’ts reed and rites no good when they’s graduate frum doze muthafuggin skoolz?
23 February, 2009 at 1:12 am
But those little colored kids and their mammies don´t know the difference, and they consider those Jewesses white … which only adds to their hatred of whites in general.
The Jewish landlords, liquor stores, pawnshops, credit company managers, Jewish judges, school principals, are to them ALL WHITE. Is it any wonder they hate whites? And the Jews are quite happy to leave it just that way. Once again, Whitey gets the blame.
23 February, 2009 at 1:24 am
“I’ve been to 4 Am Ren conferences, and frequently have brought up the Jewish issue during Q&A.”
I´ve never been to any of their conferences, but I would like to (or wish someone would) bring up their hypocritical use of the Jefferson quote about there being no truth that he would wish to keep hidden or unknown to the world. What phonies they are! There is certainly ONE subject which they wish to keep unknown.
23 February, 2009 at 7:30 pm
You’re right again, Herr Ein. Jews have this little habit of calling themselves White whenever they get caught doing something real Jewy, like being a slumlord, sweatshop owner or a liquor merchant who sells Thunderbird and Old Grandad in ghetto liquor stores. Of course, any act of Jewish “philanthropy” is always touted in the press as an example of how The Law of Moses commands the Israelites to be kind to their Gentile neighbors.
As for American Renaissance, the John Birch Society and other right-wing reactionary groups…..Feh!
23 February, 2009 at 10:49 pm
Amen Z. I came into the WN camp as someone who, for lack of any other alternative, considered myself part of the conservative/libertarian camp. I watched Fox News, listened to Rush Limbaugh occasionally and even voted for George W. Bush twice. However, I always felt like there was something missing for me. Then, I had my eyes opened to the Jewish question and the racialist world view and everything changed for me. I still consider myself right wing but in a completely different sense. Traditional conservative/libertarian groups and media outlets have no interest for me anymore. In fact, nowadays, they irritate me just as much as the liberal media does. It’s strange how things can change. Especially when you think you have it all figured out-at least from a political perspective.
24 February, 2009 at 4:08 am
Mr. Huber, I think you’ll agree with me when I say that everything starts to make sense about why the world is the way it is when it’s viewed from a racist/racialist perspective.
24 February, 2009 at 12:19 pm
Total agreement.
24 February, 2009 at 2:52 pm
And host/parasite perspective.
KWA= Hostess with the Mostess
http://www.hostesswiththemostess.com/
25 February, 2009 at 6:00 am
And host/parasite perspective.
¡Right again for shabbos! Yes, that is VERY significant.