Alex Linder on Strategy
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[This originally appeared at the VNN Forum].
Ordinary people, not all that different from you, are not real swift. They can barely distinguish the ground from the sky. Pat Buchanan is enough like us that it confuses people. The same can be said for all conservatives: they favor some of the same things we do (basically, acting normally – respect for the respectable in everyday life), which makes them, the conservatives, a plausible opponent to the weirdos of the left. Do you understand the implications that flow, for our position, from the fact that tens of millions of people believe that by supporting ‘the right’ they can effect the kind of political change we need to get back to Normal White America? If they think the solution lies within the system, i.e., through supporting one or other of the people/parties they see on TV/in the papers, then why the heck would they ever bother about us? I want you to take ten or fifteen days, however much time you need, to digest this point:
IF BUCHANAN CAN GET THE JOB DONE, WHY THE HECK DOES THE PUBLIC NEED US?
Now, if the public doesn’t need Buchanan, because he can’t get the job done…then the next epiphany is that Buchanan is an obstacle to the public seeing us, and pondering our case, and realizing that we alone, we White Nationalists, have what is needed to get the job done. Buchanan and his ilk are…in the way. He is on TV and in the papers daily. Our people are not. He’s close enough to our position, plausible enough a representative of normal-white interests, that masses of people, dim by nature, tired by overwork, just might be fooled by him. God knows they always have been. And that’s how we’ve ended up where we are. Now, Buchanan has no reason to change: his shtik and spiel have made him rich. WE ARE THE ONES WHO MUST CHANGE. So I don’t want to hear any shit about how I’m wrong in attacking little Catholic Patsy. Attacking conservatives as cowards and weaklings is precisely what we need. It is tactically even more important than attacking liberals, because the people we want already hate them, and their power is merely a function of their support for the jews’ agenda. We can’t polarize the public between Whites and jews until conservatives, the have-it-both-ways people, are roadkilled and dragged off on the shoulder. Only then does the political Chicken begin…
Knocking Pat off the air is like knocking the flowers off a Pasadena New Year’s float. It shows the ugly chicken wire cage of jewish totalitarianism beneath the pretty colors and designs and smiling, waving chesties. It reveals to the public what’s actually going on: naked jewish tyranny. No one who disagrees with the jews in any way is allowed face or sheet time in AmeriKwa. That awakening is good for our side. It is necessary. Pat Buchanan and other seemingly rational conservative geldings on TV and in the papers hurts our side, because they make it look like the system is open. For the mass of people, none too bright to begin with and tired from their labor, can’t make out the difference. They don’t spend all day on the Internet studying politics. They’re working. They need things gross and crude, otherwise they’re going to be fooled by polished professionals like Pat. But if he doesn’t have the answers we need as a race, then it is in our interest that he be knocked off TV, because he can only mislead people as to the cause of our decline.
I’m pleonasming my ass off, but I really don’t think you dimwits won’t benefit from overbludgeoning. So just read more and think a little, or wave your feelers, or whatever you do to receive sensory input.
To repeat:
Ordinary dimwits cannot distinguish the White Nationalist position from the conservative position, since our side is kept off TV by the jews.
In order to make our presence known, we have to KNOCK THE CONSERVATIVES OUT OF THE WAY. The fact that they somewhat look like us, and that some of our policies overlap (anti-queer, anti-feminist, pro-borders, etc.) does not mean they are on our side. They are in fact spittingly hostile to us. They call us kooks, loons, crazies, basement dwellers – in short, there is no term of abuse used by the commie-jew-left against us that is not also used by the commie-jew-controlled-right. That ought to be a lesson to you dimwits, but, being tepid namby-pambies like 99% of white males, you just smooth over the differences like a wife who doesn’t want to make trouble. We’ll find a way to muddle through somehow, just pretend that we all get along, that we’re all on the same side. Even though we’re not, and it only helps the already rich and cowardly pretenders called conservatives who look down on us and do all they can to destroy our reputations to preserve their status as the real outsiders and the alternative to the judeo-System. Nah, just pretend. “It’s better that way,” as the wigger in the Offspring song sings. Better to be a big, fat, stupid, undiscriminating, barren pussy like Starr or her cat than to stand up for yourself, your school, your leaders, your principles, your race. If you think Pat Buchanan is a good guy and helping our cause, you are not a White Nationalist.
White Nationalists have nearly as much difficulty as the average Joe in understanding what’s going on in politics because:
a) they are nearly as dim-witted as pro wrestling fans;
b) they have never seen professional conservatism from the inside, so they think it is something other than “a game; a way of making a living,” as Joe Sobran called it.
Wise up, idiots. Pat Buchanan is not interested in standing up for you, he’s interested in getting into your wallet. WN Buchanan fans are the exact equivalent of a chick who thinks a guy really likes her when in fact he just wants sex. Pat’s interested in you watching him on TV and thinking he stands for the change you want. He isn’t, but if he can put on a good enough show to fool you, he’s got your money. And he knows you’re stupid. He knows, as he would put it, hard-core WN have “nowhere else to go.” No one else on TV even pretends to be right wing. That makes him the it girl. And until WN scorn him and demand better, he’s right. Again, if you support Buchanan, you are a conservative, not a White Nationalist.
Fuck the Kwanservatives, we’re the Sex Pistols.
What our White Nationalist cause needs to do to succeed is to polarize the nation between jews and White Nationalists. That means, in tardspeak, that the average dolt, let’s call him Special Mark, the guy who reads the paper for twenty minutes before dinner, must perceive that there are two competing visions out there, between which he can choose:
1) the judeo-System – the debt-sex-vice-sports-multicult vision
2) the White Nationalist system – a White nation without jews, muds or neo-morals
Polarizing the public between these positions is a tall order. It means destroying the dominant conceptual framework as it exists now: with false option A (liberals/Democrats) and false option B (conservatives/Republicans). Ordinary people cannot make out, without help, that there is not a dime’s worth of difference between right and left, they are two puppets pulled over the filthy claws of the eagle-nosed kike who actually runs things and makes all the decisions. It is our job to expose, reveal, destroy. Part of that revelation is beating the living hell out of the conservatives until ordinary people perceive them as the weaklings, laughingstocks, and System tools they are.
In practical terms, polarization entails demonizing and attacking the RIGHT, THE CONSERVATIVES, the PALEOCONSERVATIVES even more than the left-liberal-PC-communists. We should not only attack the fake right, the false opposition, we should attack them with joy and relish. Laughter indicates the laugher is or feels superior to the target. That’s exactly the meta-message the winning politician must communicate – that he is stronger than his opponent. That he is the bull goose in the pen. That is a lesson the conservative never understands, which is why he is always fighting uphill. Footnoting is for cowards and folks who don’t get it. At best it’s fill-in stuff. No footnote ever won a political battle. A political battle is just the human version of that nature channel perennial: the battle between bulls for mating rights. Bluffing is involved, and laughing is essential to bluffing, as ridicule can destroy anything. Anyone preferring reasoned discourse over laughter, if not an actual academic, to whom footnoting is proper, is very likely a coward or a dullard. We beat the jews by laughing at them and fighting them. Laughter is the proper means of verbal warfare. Not “proving” things. Not footnoting. Not remonstrating. Not being polite and respectful. Not playing along with appearances. Not not doubting motives. All those are for weaklings, for losers, for conservatives. We are not they. “I’m not like you [Kwanservative] Charlie Brown [with your fulsome MLKommie praise, your love of diversity, your pathetic and ineffectual puling], I have to win sometimes.” We White Nationalists are lions. Well, we’re cubs who might become lions if we act right. The conservatives are dung beetles. After the jews have eaten the wildebeest and pooped out the remains, the Pat Buchanans of “It’s Pat” fame crinkle by on their six little feet, and roll up the salubrious balls of dung on which they subsist. Do you want to be a lion or a dung beetle, White man?
If you agree there are things a grown man, a political analyst, can’t say, you are giving your seal of approval to the cowardice that is putting our race in the ground. You hurt our cause and you are not welcome at VNNForum. White Nationalism has a higher standard than you are able to meet.
The conservatives, including Pat Buchanan, must be destroyed, run off, hounded into irrelevancy, so that the people can see that we, not he and his febrile faileocons, are the REAL alternative to the evil jews producing The System Show.
I really have been impressed these last few months at the childlike cluelessness of so many who think they are WN. The typical WN thinks he is displaying his sophistication when he makes excuses for why this or that kahnster dung beetle can’t say this or that.
Let me tell you, men of gerbil: You’re not sophisticated. You’re stupid dupes and dullards. You think Buchanan is really putting one over on the dominant kikes, and you’re right. He is putting one over. Not on the kikes. On you.
I have worked in these offices. I have taken the calls from liberal talking head A asking if conservative talkie B wants to go out for drinks after work. These guys are all buddies. They live the good life by putting on a Punch and Judy show for the mass morons like you. Some of the leftists might be honest about what they believe, since they can say EVERYTHING they want, qualified only by tactical advisability. But none of the rightists are anything but tools, except for the jewish neocons, who root and jew about with freedom, as they are kikes. As John Derbyshire at least had the courage to admit, everything he writes is conditioned by his fear of jews. If he displeases them, he has no job. Men who accept employment as political writers/analysts on terms that require them to relinquish their manhood and their independent judgment are unworthy of respect or subsidy. They are, rather, to be despised and spit on as weaklings. If you don’t agree with this statement, you are not a White Nationalist. You are a conservative. Cowardice at no time in White history has been acceptable in a political leader. That is a horrid and disgusting innovation of the 20th century. Reject it.
Now is the first time in history that White men, almost across the board, willingly agreed to sacrifice their honor and their independence for a paycheck. Pat Buchanan and the rest of the paleocons are house eunuchs waving palm fronds for the Pet pashas who employ them. A White Nationalist who praises Pat Buchanan and makes excuses for him is seen by me, and by Pat himself, as a fool. A man with no self respect has no respect for others too stupid to see him for what he is. Pat Buchanan knows how to wink and nod at WN in order to suck our money. And too many of you idiots think he’s helping us rather than helping himself by using us.
Pat Buchanan is dangerous to our cause because of his virtues – his learning and his political knowledge. He knows precisely how to affect that he is one of us. He know that hinting that he stands for all that is white and good is the way to fill his coffers. He also knows that that is his role within the jewish System. You have to give a little to get a little, the jewish tyrant knows. Pat is that giving a little. To maintain the fiction of an open system, there have to be at least a few people who appear, and appear plausibly, to oppose the powers that be. Pat Buchanan is precisely that man. As a good little Irish Catholic, PB always runs cringing and whimpering back to Authority, because that is his nature, and that is how he was raised and trained. Religious folks like PB have no problem with shitty, self-interested behavior as long as the dirt is done in private, and the facade kept up in public. The idea of saying the same thing in private as you do in public is foreign to the Christian, as is any ideal of manliness. Christianity is a shabby thing.
The White fool imagines that Buchanan aids our cause. The reality is that our cause aids Buchanan. Buchanan never says a word about White dispossession. He never says a word about jews controlling our government. He openly advised the Republicans to undercut the most successful White political candidate of the last 25 years, David Duke. Buchanan is a team player, and a System dolly all the way to the bank. WN is a cause that he can watch and steal the best arguments from, without crediting the men who thought them up – the revisionists now languishing in jail, for example. That way he can maximize his support base and shine up his radical veneer while staying safe with the jews. Most people, as I started and will end with, can’t make out a clever, well-written conservative position coming from the pen of someone like Buchanan from a genuine White Nationalist position. It is in our interest that we do everything possible to help them, and that surely and necessarily entails attacking and destroying Pat Buchanan. If you don’t agree with that position, you are not one of us. You are a conservative. Anything that obscures the difference between White Nationalism and conservatism is detrimental to our cause.
Politics is a zero-sum game. Money and time that go to Pat Buchanan and the faileocons are money and attention that do not go to White Nationalists. Any so-called WN who praises Buchanan and encourages us to support him is objectively damaging our cause – by aiding men who already possess tremendous material (money and TV access) advantages over us. Not to mention men who, whenever the question is put to them directly, denounce us.
Accept nothing but the real thing, White men.
Raise your standards.
Pat Buchanan is our competitor.
Pat Buchanan is our enemy.
– Alex Linder
30 August, 2009 at 2:00 pm
In 1992, I sent money to Buchanan when he ran against Bush the elder in the Republican primaries.
Sometime thereafter I had two epiphanies.
The first was when I started receiving solicitation letters from the Republican party. I realized that Buchanan had sold his sucker list to the people he was “running against.”
My second epiphany came when I heard a “hillbilly trucker” on a talk radio show comment on our permanent political class. His observation was that, “Them guys are all on the same team.”
I have a degree in political science, but it took an “uneducated” man to really educate me. I realized that Buchanan would have more in common with Maxine Waters or Barney Frank than he would ever have with me. He would never do anything which would endanger his meal ticket. That meal ticket is his membership card in the establishment. He will
NEVER do anything to endanger is establishment status.
More and more people are starting to pick up on this. I like the analogy now being used which likens government and media to professional wresting. Whether they’re good guys or bad guys, they all work for Vince McMahan of the WWE. He also employs the announcers and managers. The whole show is orchestrated by one entity – McMahan. Any conflict is merely a dramatic device. It’s all a show.
30 August, 2009 at 2:04 pm
Excellent analysis, as I have come to expect from Herr Linder.
This is timely, too. I’ve listened off and on to the Political Cesspool, and they occasionally have good guests – but they are huge worshipers of the Pat Buchanan flavor of do-nothing, paleocon ideology and they consistently invite Paul Gottfriend, Stephen Sniegnoski, and this guy Roger Devlin on their shows and to me, this is just more of the same failed Jared Taylor policy of allowing our movement to include potential turn-coats into it and this is how nearly every pro-white organization in the past has been neutralized, subverted, and then destroyed from within by the enemy.
The next time James Edwards sends me one of his fund raising letters, I’ll put a copy of this article by Alex in the envelope and return it.
Why does the white man keep making the same tactical mistakes over and over and never learn his lesson?
30 August, 2009 at 2:08 pm
Has also been posted a while back at Majority Rights: http://majorityrights.com/index.php/weblog/comments/alex_linder_attack_the_conservatives1/
30 August, 2009 at 2:15 pm
“Why does the white man keep making the same tactical mistakes over and over and never learn his lesson?”
jew control of information. Please don’t blame whites for this.
30 August, 2009 at 2:32 pm
Buchanan is NOT the enemy. If he said “The Jews control Hollywood, Washington, D.C., and whites are being targeted for destruction by savages from the third world the Jews brought in to kill us with” he would never be on television or radio ever again.
Saying Buchanan is the enemy is like saying Ron Paul is our enemy. They are just old, GOOD natured white men. The jews use our good nature against us. Buchanan is far more of a Republican shill, however, than Paul.
I saw a video of Buchanan on C-SPAN showing his personal library. He showed NO holohoax books, and bragged how he got his copy of Mein Kampf at age 13. The interviewer seemed shocked. “What were you doing with a copy of Mein Kampf at age 13?” he asked. Pat didn’t really shy away. He had “Hitler’s table talk”, etc.
That being said, Buchanan and Nixon should have come out as open Anti-Semites and have taken care of business instead of talking behind the scenes as they did.
Buchanan should not stand trial for treason against the white race.
It is not right to attack Buchanan when he is easily the most anti-Zionist pro-white mainstream commentator.
I don’t see the point in attacking Buchanan.
Limbaugh and Hannity ARE OUR ENEMIES.
30 August, 2009 at 2:42 pm
What did Sun Tzu say when asked how to assign resources in a battle. “Starve failure, feed success.” Clearly Buchanan isn’t delivering, so any support he receives is wasted.
30 August, 2009 at 2:47 pm
KB~ yep, with jew control of almost all information, it’s hard for most people to get it.
I would still have liked to have seen Pat B as Pres. over Bush or Clinton, or Obama, etc.
He said in a speech in CO. that he would “stop the New World Order in its tracks.” I liked that. It gave me hope. Then he won New Hampshire and I thought, whoever wins NH always wins the nomination, maybe there’s hope. Then the Christian Coalition worked hard against him in South Carolina, and he was doomed from there on. It became a matter of the ridiculous, “we can’t throw away our vote and let ~insert liberal’s name here~ win.”
Of course at that time, I didn’t fully understand our struggle. Alex is right.
One of my ‘epiphanies’ was when I walked into the state Republican headquarters office to offer my help in defeating the evil Clinton, as was basically laughed out of the place. No thanks, we don’t need any, move along.
After that my hope lay in Buchanan. Misplaced hope though it was.
There have been so many times, when I thought that all the Republican party would have to do to win would be to explicitly appeal to whites. Go on TV and call for all whites to band together and put it back right. If they did, there’s no way they could lose, because there are millions of white guys like me (like i was before i became a WN), who want that, and would flock to it.
I guess that’s why they don’t do it.
Oh yeah, I see why Parsifal et al, deride the conservatives.
30 August, 2009 at 2:53 pm
The whole purpose of voting is so that the people will think that the government is voluntary.
30 August, 2009 at 4:12 pm
Buchanan, and others like him, must KNOW that ‘jews control the media machine and that Whites are being targeted for extinction’, so why don’t they come out and say it, just once?
What have they got to lose? Nothing. These men are independently wealthy, they don’t have a pension to worry about, so why are they living in craven fear of the jews?
If they had the balls to come out and say what is so blindingly obvious the applause would be deafening.
30 August, 2009 at 4:41 pm
Writing like this, posted on the front page of VNN, is what originally drew me to the White cause, opening my eyes to the jew. More of this.
30 August, 2009 at 5:13 pm
two quick comments:
One, Stan Sikorsky is right when he said:
in reply:
One, I made a comment to the effect that we should have an “Open Thread” stickied next to the top of this page. We should include the gold stuff from The Occidental Quarterly, particularly O’Meara. This will allow us to bring ideas to the attention of Socarates without cluttering up threads with side issues.
At the top we should have – in bold caps – OUR CAUSE – and just have a link that leads to the OPENED “Our Cause” section of VNN/F.
Two, we are in the position of trying to describe color paintings to blind men; too many of our brethren are not only trapped in the Jewtrix – as we were – but they will actively try to destroy us if they can.
THAT is how badly they have internalized the values of the Racial Enemies, who only wish us destruction.
A link to the OPENED “Our Cause” section will give them the intellectual ammunition they need.
Fourteen Forever
30 August, 2009 at 5:30 pm
Take a look at what the UK ‘Conservative’ party is like these days:
http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=99530
Alex rightly demonstrates that we need to help make White Conservative voters become disillusioned with Conservative parties. We are helped towards that goal by the fact that Conservative parties are moving far leftward. It’s good for us.
30 August, 2009 at 7:24 pm
A big, tasty slice of Vintage Linder; the stuff that made VNN the most radical, best-written WN site on the net. Badly needed, too.
Alex is right about needing to laff the kahnservantives into the shitter where they belong. The kikes have already proven the devastating effectiveness of scornful mockery. Their “comedians” have made global laughingstocks of Christians, Germans, Southerners, Midwesterners, White dancers, suburbanites – virtually everything White Normal and non-Kike/Urban.
30 August, 2009 at 7:51 pm
I came to a similar conclusion as Alex very recently. I had long been a fan of Ron Paul and his campaign to end the system of Jewish usury known as the FED, but he completely lost me in his presidential campaign when he began praising Rosa Parks and MLK as his personal heros.
I don’t care if Ron Paul and Pat Buchanan are right on every other issue… they are wrong on a future for white children, and that is the only issue that matters.
I’m starting to believe that President Ron Paul would be worse for white people than Obama. Ron Paul does understand economics… and he could fix the system… just long enough to squeeze another 20 years of race mixing and non-white immigration out of it.
I’m with Obama… set the controls for the sun and full speed ahead. It’s better that the inevitable conflict comes while we are 70% of the population than when we are 30%.
If only Reagan had lost the election to Jimmy Carter, there wouldn’t have been an amnesty for 20 million Mexcriments and people would have been forced to confront what is happening to Amerikwa a long time ago. The most dangerous thing about Paul and Buchanan is that they are competent enough to delay a white racial awakening until it really is too late.
30 August, 2009 at 8:01 pm
I don’t think Pat B. “lacks balls”. I think that he is doing what he knows how to do by first realizing that a war is fought on ALL fronts, not just by the grunts with their rifles. If he lacks courage, so what.
I bought one of his books for a friend of mine. He was just floored to see these ideas, such as they are in your eyes. It has led him down the right path! Thank you, Pat.
30 August, 2009 at 8:17 pm
Buchanan just wrote a book called “Churchill, Hitler, and the Unnecessary War” pointing out what a piece of shit Churchill was, and how World War II was the death of the west.
It was right after his books “The Death of the West” and “State of Emergency: The Third World Invasion and Conquest of America.”
If Pat was in charge, he would immediately withdraw troops from Iraq and use them to deport the Mexicans and control our southern border.
We would have had less problems right now if people like Buchanan and Ron Paul were in charge all along, however you are right in the regard that we need to push them out of the way, they are not radical enough.
Buchanan probably feels like Mel Gibson. There is little to no support for going on the attack against the Jew in a West brainwashed by the Holohoax.
He is a good stepping stone to white nationalism. I would hear him on the McLaughlin Group or MSNBC and agree with him practically all the time.
We don’t need people to be in lock step. If Gibson, a Christian, suddenly came to power, I would support him, although I detest jewish religion.
I just heard Buchanan on The Political Cesspool with James Edwards, this is a white nationalist program.
All this being said, if Buchanan ever was to be put on a show to confront a David Duke, he should be considered treasonous.
30 August, 2009 at 8:48 pm
“It is not right to attack Buchanan when he is easily the most anti-Zionist pro-white mainstream commentator.
I don’t see the point in attacking Buchanan.
Limbaugh and Hannity ARE OUR ENEMIES.”
I must agree with Nah’s post. Buchanan may not reveal the whole truth, on live TV, but he certainly understands the situation we are in. Limbaugh and Hannity are nothing but clownish shills for the Jew. Entertainers, part of a circus act designed to divert our attention, while Rome burns. Buchanan is a highly intelligent chronicler of history and an atriculate and honorable man. Simply because he does not throw himself upon the funeral pyre, of our own making, is no reason to crucify him.
30 August, 2009 at 8:58 pm
To paraphase Mick Jagger as he sang “It’s only Rock n Roll” (but I like it)… “Would it satisfy your teenage heart, if I stabbed myself through the heart, right here on the stage?” Why must we stab a knife through Buchanan’s heart simply because he does not self-destruct on live TV for all of us to marvel at? Let Patrick have his nice home and fine wine. He’s earned it.
30 August, 2009 at 9:02 pm
Good god.
Good god, this is by far THE most insightful, brilliant thing that I have ever read on this or any other site. I feel as though my head has just EXPLODED!
Bravo. Simply, bravo.
30 August, 2009 at 10:03 pm
Dammit! I read this a while back and loved it. On the re-run it gets even better. Alex, you’re writing inspires us all. I only wish we could see more of it. Hope you are well.
30 August, 2009 at 10:03 pm
Any weenie who makes himself/herself publicly known and acts as a “far-right wing conservative” and doesn’t emphatically make it known that jews are THE PROBLEM and how they suppress free speech and control the media and lie about many things is just another flap in the wind.
These sideshows these people perform do not go as far as it should to inform the public about jews and their degradation on a society and how it evolves. But, the trick is to name the jew and not be afraid to do so.
Hey folks, with the communists, people who are destructive, in the White House and in the State and Federal positions, the USA is becoming a Bolshevik country. We are in the beginning phase of a Bolshevik takeover.
30 August, 2009 at 10:04 pm
YOUR writing!
30 August, 2009 at 10:05 pm
I always knew “Patty” was the enemy. Sucking from us our verylife blood. Good to see Alex once again pointing the way, because I thought I was going mad.
“Patty” sucks the very life blood from the WN cause. He is no friend of ours. Once again a timely reminder from Alex.
Yes copy n paste this article and send it to the world!
30 August, 2009 at 10:38 pm
There is a larger issue to be addressed.
Yes, Buchanan has done all he could – considering that he is virtually drowned out by the estrogenfest on MSNBC, but that is the price he pays to be in the Game at all.
Linder hit it when he said that the Game is RIGGED.
Want proof?
Look at Pat’s political party, the former Perot people, the REFORM Party.
Pat made some money, had a great platform, and was stabbed in the back by the people he was trying to help, who were told by the System Press, “Don’t throw away your vote on a third party candidate!”
IF – and this is a big IF – they had backed him, he could have qualified in the NEXT election for Federal matching funds, and developed a real political party.
His party platform had everything the CONservatives say they wanted – even abolition of the Federal Reserve System.
They decided not to “throw away their vote.”
In doing so, they threw away their rights to any say whatsoever in the future of their Race.
BIG PICTURE, and ORGANIZATION.
Buchanan, I think, knows what Linder knows – the only answer is to see that the Game is RIGGED, and play to not lose, while working on building a better Game.
Enter Harold Covington, and the Northwest Republic Initiative.
THAT is Deep Strategy.
Don’t waste your energy trying to change anyone.
Incidentally, I think an economic tipping point has been reached, and politics from now on will be a reflection of this.
The national debt now equals annual GNP, after you control for the creative accounting.
Economic growth from now on – the Japan Model – is 1% or less, and substantially less after adjusting for the inflation of the money supply.
If the national debt did not increase by one more dollar, we would still face the inexorable liquidation of the assets of the American economy, and the functional equivalent of indentured servitude for our Posterity.
Buchanan was the best we had, for an earlier time.
Now, WE must develop the skills and talents we need to BE what we need to be, for our Posterity, for our Race.
So, what would a Northwest Republic Analytical Model solution to the Buchanan Position look like?
More to follow.
30 August, 2009 at 11:13 pm
Cont’d:
The basic political impulses that manifested as “Republicanism” and “CONservatism” had their foundation in the beliefs that lead directly to White Nationalism – a Mindset that was taken for granted until after WWII.
It was replaced – cuckoo’s egg style, if you will – with Buckley’s JUDEOCONservatism, for the Old Right, and “Republicanism,” for the New Right.
Somehow, White Nationalism was ‘dynamically silenced,” and represented on the new phenomenon of color television by toothless, uneducated Deep Southern inbreds, who considered a white bedsheet and pillowcase to be formal attire.
Hence, the market value of “The Brand Called White” has declined dramatically, and so has the country.
This is not by coincidence.
Note what I said about about the economy.
Figure the interest rate of the national debt alone guarantees the end of America; if the principal increases, the rate of decline will increase all the more quickly.
And economics is now seen as an arm of politics – pure and simple.
Two trends will now intensify for us, as part of the de facto Racial War against the White Race:
One, infrastructure collapse, seen, for example, as macadam roads in the counties will be turned back to gravel roads, saving states a fortune in road maintenance costs. Don’t get me started on the future of the electrical grid.
Two, SUBSTANTIAL portions of cities will be leveled. This is underway in Youngstown, Ohio, and is scheduled for Flint, Michigan – with great enthusiasm, this is spreading across the country like wildfire.
Ah, you ask, how about the dispossessed negroes?
Glad you asked.
They are moving on up, and out, to a place near you.
Section 8 is growing like wildfire, and is being strategically targeted for all-White areas, like Westchester, New York.
It gets better.
You see, FHA – the classic housing program developed during the First Great Depression – is now a new SUBPRIME market.
In California, you are back to no money down, and TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS back at signing.
Guess who these loans are targeted to?
The trend, as Peter Schaenk noted, will be towards Collapse.
His indicator, seen in the economically collapsed Eastern Europe, is the lack of garbage collection.
You can pick your own indicators and play along at home, but it is clear that America AS WE KNEW IT, is GONE, and will be replaced by SOMETHING.
Again, that takes us to the Northwest Republic Analytical Model of Harold Covington.
How’s this for an Organizing Principle:
PROTECT THE RACE.
Fourteen Forever
30 August, 2009 at 11:18 pm
Insightful, insiteful, and inciteful.
30 August, 2009 at 11:27 pm
“. . .because I thought I was going mad. . .”
Going mad is the only way to sanity.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6yq5O8GXUo
31 August, 2009 at 12:15 am
This is the mass movement idea again. Alex wants to dispose of Buchanan and his ilk so that a true mass movement can begin. Yet, as Alex himself says, the white masses are dullards, barely able to distinguish the ground from the sky. What could possibly be done with such people, even if you could win them over? It seems to me that in his careful political gamesmanship, stepping back from being too radical and openly proclaiming himself a “racist”, which these well-indoctrinated, thoroughly jewed clodpates would never accept, Buchanan is doing just about all that can be done with them. They are being milked by him for money like the stupid cows they are. That’s all this current lot is good for. Could they somehow be educated, propagandized, tricked, or beaten down by an external event such as an economic collapse into becoming overtly racist? Let’s optimistically suppose some improvement could be made. Yet even in ethnically homogeneous Weimar Germany, with the economy in tatters, Hitler was not able to win an election. The people still did not listen or understand, even with a genius like Herr Doktor Goebbels in charge of propaganda. Hitler attained power only after being appointed by Hindenburg. How shall we succeed where even Hitler, who had greater resources than us and was in a more favorable environment, failed? Until someone can answer this in detail, it’s hard to see why attempts to construct a mass movement should be taken seriously.
But let’s forget that minor detail for now, and be charitable and just assume you can radicalize the masses and get them ready to shed their blood for the white race, even though the evidence of history would argue against it. What then? Secession? In America, the secession question was settled conclusively in 1865. I hope this does not come as news to any of you, although one person in particular here doesn’t seem aware of this fact. Worse, technological advances in weaponry have accrued a million times more power to central governments since then, and particularly to the US government, which is the most heavily armed, most intrusive government in all history. So a conventional war against the state is completely out of the question. A guerrilla war such as is being fought in Iraq is possible, but would likely fail, unless control could be gained over nuclear or other doomsday-type weapons. But control over these types of weapons would make a mass movement unnecessary, and so the Buchanan question does not arise. If we can agree that guerrilla warfare involving doomsday weapons is the direction things are likely going to take, he’s irrelevant.
There is a second way that a lot of people seem to think is feasible. What about this talk of forswearing violence, and building a parallel structure – a white community with its own media, schools, and businesses, spreading rhizomatously and autonomously? What about that? Well, for one thing, do you really think that the elites who control the current structure will sit idly by, twiddling their thumbs, while you do that? Hasn’t anyone heard about the Civil Rights movement and the Fair Housing Act, which were passed to prevent just that sort of response on the part of whites, and which outlawed whites-only businesses, schools, and communities? It was in all the papers, honest! And it isn’t just the Jews that are in opposition to this. They aren’t the only problem. The fact is, the weight of the entire technical structure of Western civilization is crushing the life out of the white race. Although a few whites-only cells could be constructed that might escape notice if they were careful to keep their heads down, there is no reason at all to think that a parallel whites-only society could be set up on a scale large enough to pose a threat to the state. It simply would not be allowed.
If the white race is to be saved, the technical means to save it must first be developed. To that end, it would be wise to study genetic engineering, nanotechnology, and robotics, since it is in these areas that it seems most likely that the technical means to achieve this goal are to be found. Once the technical means to save the race is found, history shows that it will eventually be used, for rarely if ever have men been able to refrain from using technique to satisfy their desire. That, after all, is its purpose. But the alternative is clear. Once the means is found, if the white race can still produce a group of men, or even a single man with the desire and the requisite ruthlessness to use it, then it will be saved. If not, then it will die, and be erased from the face of the earth.
31 August, 2009 at 12:44 am
I always love it when Alex writes an essay. I don’t have time to sift through the discussion forum looking for his little gems. That said, I strongly disagree with his attitude here.
Pat Buchanan will not save us. Nor will Ron Paul. Nor will any politician. Nor will we be saved by race realist policy wonkery. I see no salvation for our race short of creating a new political system, either by replacing the US system as a whole or by seceding from it.
But Buchanan the writer and commentator has his virtues and his uses.
1. Linder constructs his argument about strategy in terms of crafting a message that gets to dim ordinary people. I am not sure that is the right audience. Historically speaking, dim masses don’t count for much, because they are easily controlled by elites with access to political power and the power to shape attitudes through education, religion, and the press. How would Linder’s strategy change if white nationalists focused on changing white elite opinion?
2. The white elites in the US are not dim. If dim is the average, the elites are above dim. Some of them are fiendishly intelligent. The white elites in the US can, however, be characterized by high degrees of individualism, conformism (the two actually go hand in hand), materialism, and insecurity about their status. The richer they are, the more insecure they are, because the more they have to lose.
3. They can lose status, of course, because in the US, status depends more on achievement than birth. In more traditional societies, one has status through birth, whether one is a street sweeper or an aristocrat. Here, one’s status is “earned.”
4. Now, in both kinds of society, it is other people who “grant” one’s status. If nobody will treat an aristocrat like an aristocrat, then he has no status. But for whatever reason, in a country like England, an aristocrat like Sir Oswald Mosley might take very radical political positions, and even go to jail for them, but enough people still recognized him as an aristocrat that his social standing was never destroyed. In the US, we are much more individualistic. We grant or withhold status based on what each person does or says, not who his parents were.
5. At first glance, that seems like a great system. There are certainly fewer barriers to upward mobility. In the United States, money buys anything.
6. Unfortunately, money also guarantees nothing. Thus the people who fight hard for upward social mobility are also haunted by downward mobility. They know that the very individualism that allowed them to rise also allows them to fall back. For if their business partners, social contacts, and others turn their backs on them, they can easily be ruined, and whether this happens is merely a matter of individual choice, based upon nothing more stable than calculations of self-interest.
7. Tocqueville long ago observed that American individualism goes hand in hand with a high degree of social conformity. Why is this? Here is my theory: human beings are social animals, with a need for social approval and recognition. In individualist societies, however, the extension of social approval and recognition is highly conditional and constantly re-evaluated. Therefore, one has to be more attentive to gauging and conforming to public opinion in individualistic societies. Thus a high degree of individualism and social mobility promotes a high degree of social conformism, because people also value social approval and social stability. (The ambitious love upward mobility, but once they get theirs, they want to hold onto it.)
8. This is why social mobility in individualist societies is most available to people who combine intelligence and ambition with a shallow, extraverted, conformist personality type. Frat boys with MBAs.
9. Furthermore, the more ambitious one is, the more one needs social approval and recognition, because one needs to secure the cooperation of more people to do bigger things. Thus as one approaches the pinnacles of the white money and power elites, one finds individuals who have higher and higher levels of ambition, aggressiveness, narrow cunning intelligence, extroversion, social conformism, and a pathetic, childlike insecurity.
10. No sane society should be ruled by people like this. But we were far better off when we controlled our own “symbolic realm” — the realm of ideas, ideals, honors, and opinion that governs the granting and withholding of social status.
11. Unfortunately, that realm has now been captured by an alien, hostile elite, the Jews, who have rigged a new status system to reward whites who betray their own kind and promote and engage in race-destructive behavior. The segment of society most controlled by this hostile elite is the entertainment industry, which is thus on the cutting edge of race destructive white behavior. Whites in Hollywood attain status through anti-natalism, feminism, homosexuality, miscegenation, adopting non-white babies, and the like. Where Hollywood goes, there goes America, if the Jews who are scripting our dispossession and extinction have their way.
12. The strategic question of White Nationalism, therefore, is: How do White Nationalists change elite opinion when our plutocrats tend to be shallow, extroverted, and insecure about their status, which happens to be determined by our polar opposites, the Jews?
13. The problem is compounded when White Nationalists themselves aspire to attain or hold onto elite status. Aside from the personal benefits of such status to White Nationalists, such status is also beneficial to the movement, since elite members have greater access to the elite.
14. I believe that this is the context in which one has to understand the strategies of such people as Samuel Francis, Patrick Buchanan, and Jared Taylor. If I wanted to (a) promote white nationalism to status-conscious, insecure elites, and (b) maintain my own status and thus access to these elites, I would give a wide berth to the Jewish Question, since the Jews now control the status system in our society, and if they felt sufficiently threatened by people like Francis, Buchanan, et al., they would shut them down and destroy any access they might have to their preferred audience.
15. If I were Francis, Buchanan, etc., I imagine I would play the following dangerous game with the Jews. Because they would work to shut down and marginalize anyone who was openly impervious to the Jews, one would have to signal a certain porousness to them, specifically by cooperating with whatever marginal Jews will associate with White Nationalism, e.g., Michael Hart, Michael Levin, Marcus Epstein, Paul Gottfried, etc. These Jews obviously think they are getting something by cooperating with White Nationalists, if only the chance to spy on our gatherings.
16. But we have to give White Nationalists some credit too, for they might think they are using these Jews to advance White Nationalism. Maybe they are foolish or naive to think this, but that is probably what they think.
17. If Francis et al. were merely working as fronts for the Jews, in order to mislead and sabotage White Nationalism, then why would they have any public affiliation with Jews? Wouldn’t that blow their cover? Wouldn’t that make their task more difficult?
18. The mere fact that at people like Buchanan, Francis, and Taylor interact in a collegial fashion with certain marginal Jews does not constitute evidence that they are working for the Jews. It does not follow simply as a matter of logic. In fact, it would make more sense for them not to associate with Jews.
19. It is certainly reasonable and prudent to be suspicious of the judgment of White Nationalists who think they can manipulate Jewish opinion to advance our cause. It is certainly reasonable to be cautious in dealing with such people. But suspicion is not proof, and using such people cautiously does not mean that they cannot be used at all.
20. As an introvert, I have little patience for extroverts, and highly extroverted, status-insecure elite members like George W. Bush strike me as especially soulless and contemptible. Frankly, I wish we could save our race without dealing with such people. In my darker moods, I wonder if a race that allows itself to be led by people who put trivial issues of personal status ahead of collective survival can be saved, or even if it deserves to be saved. There is something disgusting about people who have all the money in the world and permit themselves less freedom to speak their minds than a truck driver or short order cook. As N. B. Forrest once asked on VNN about Mel Gibson: How much money does one need to give the Jews the finger? I wish I could shame these people, but I cannot, for their sense of shame is held captive by our enemies. Thus I have little patience for efforts to soft sell these people on their own race’s survival. What kind of people need to be soft-sold their own survival?
21. That said, Pat Buchanan has his uses. I recommend his books to skittish, insecure, status-conscious mainstream conservatives to nudge them in the right direction. If they like Buchanan and become comfortable advocating his take on the world, then perhaps they can be brought further still, by reading Sam Francis’ Essential Writings on Race, then American Renaissance, then maybe Kevin MacDonald.
22. Even if Alex’s worst suspicions about Buchanan are true, that would in no way lessen the value of his books. Even if the Jews are using him to mislead, we can still use him to wean people away from mainstream Republicanism in the direction of White Nationalism. To think that such attempts would be doomed to failure is to underestimate our own power and to ascribe to the Jews some sort of occult force of invincibility that they simply do not have. That is how losers think.
23. I do not think Pat Buchanan is our competitor. I do not think he is our enemy. And even if he were, we are strong and clever enough to use him for our own ends.
31 August, 2009 at 1:02 am
in reply to Adam (1):
you wrote:
in reply:
No, Linder wants to dispose of the idea that CONservatism has anything to offer the Race other than the path that leads to political ineffectiveness.
Buchanan remains THE standard bearer for what might have become a populist response to the steady degradation of America into a colony of the Jews.
All of Buchanan’s formulations fail to hit home effectively, because the power of these concepts are derived from the soil of Western Civilization – the manifestation of the White Race as a social organization.
Look at the Republicans after Goldwater’s smashing defeat in 1964.
THAT was the price paid for being rational with the irrational.
Look at the Republicans after they adopted (BUCHANAN’S!) “Southern Strategy,” which aimed the policies and campaign symbols of the Republican Party at White MEN who worked for a living.
The thrill of Victory!
So, Buchanan knows better than most of us how REAL politics is RACIAL politics.
That his hands have been tied by the System is quite telling.
you wrote:
in reply:
Quite a lot can be done with “such people,” IF they see Hope, and can organize along Racial lines.
Look at Johnson, with his clearly failing policies regarding Vietnam.
Look how Nixon won, with his appeal to the Race.
Look how Nixon failed because he sought the counsel of his Racial Enemies, and could not deal with Vietnam effectively.
you wrote:
in reply:
Hitler did not need to win an election.
Given the structure of German politics at the time, all he needed to win were the hearts and minds of the German people.
And, yes, the White Race could again become overtly members of the Racially Conscious Community.
“Racist,” as Peter Schaenk so astutely informs us, is a term created BY the Jews to denigrate one Race – the White Race.
So, let’s not accept the framing of our Racial Enemies to describe us.
Racially Conscious Community.
A term formulated by Harold Covington, by the way.
you wrote:
in reply:
We shall succeed when we choose to succeed.
The Hitler analogies also play directly into the hands of our Racial Enemies.
Is this by accident?
Fourteen Forever
31 August, 2009 at 1:13 am
in reply to Adam (2):
you wrote:
in reply:
You assume secession would be along the State lines of 1865.
Nonsense.
THAT was the folly of accepting the Enemy’s Terms and Definitions.
Covington argues forming our own nation begins with a CULTURAL secession.
We, individually, and then slowly forming organically into groups along the lines of a Racially Conscious Community, would take back control of our LIVES, and then, our Families, and then our Extended families.
And “guerilla warfare involving doomsday weapons” reads like someone who has spent far too much time missing the most astute observation of Peter Schaenk, so I’ll make it as clear as possible:
To Peter Schaenk, the Jews took over America in less than a century, without firing a shot, by control of the pictures we see, the words we hear, and the financial system that rules our economy.
Now, THAT is an example we can learn from!
Perhaps we can also learn from the example of the remarkably successful Byzantine Empire, which simply kept the Jews out of finance, education, and politics.
It worked for them, it will work for us!
The same principle was what worked for Chancellor Hitler.
Simply removing Jewish control of the critical Institutions of the German society, and then removing Jewish Institutions altogether, allowed the German people to creatively solve their problems without the burden of the parasitic Jewish control blocking them.
A useful example, indeed.
Just remove the power the parasites have over your life, starting where you are.
Fourteen Forever.
31 August, 2009 at 1:29 am
in reply to Adam (3):
you wrote:
in reply:
What about the White Race “forswearing violence?”
Never happen.
We forswear folly.
The legitimate use of force is all we need.
As for “building a parallel structure,” “a white community with its own media, schools, and businesses, spreading rhizomatously and autonomously?” I can only reply with the (slightly paraphrased) words of Alex Linder:
Take ANY State in the Union, no matter how forsaken it seems, no matter how bad the weather, the terrain, the resources, whatever. Give us our Constitutionally guaranteed RIGHT of Free Association, and make that State “WHITES ONLY.”
Then, just stand back as the greatest land rush in American history runs you over as the people who made America a great nation leave the dying carcass, and leave the dead, to the dying.
Come back in fifty years and watch as Mankind’s first starship launches from OUR RACIAL HOMELAND.
you wrote:
in reply:
It was also affordable, in an entirely different economy.
Besides, they don’t have to be EXPLICITLY “Whites Only.”
The Jews certainly have their own apartment complexes, their own communities, their own businesses, and not ONE says “JEWS ONLY.”
We can learn from the example of our successful (for now!) Racial Enemies.
Incidentally, the rhizome model was supported by William Pierce, David Lane, and the most successful colonist in American history, Brigham Young.
An American in full economic collapse, with most of its armed forces overseas (except for Obama’s Citizen Army!), will find its hands full elsewhere, for a long time to come.
Consider California as a harbinger of a good bit of America’s future.
Then, consider the Northwest Republic as the highest and best solution to California.
you wrote:
in reply:
There is no need to pose a threat to the State.
Quite the contrary.
We just do what works for us, and, using the rhizome model, suddenly are a quietly effective force to be reckoned with, on OUR terms, in OUR time.
Just give me that “WHITES ONLY” sign on any State line.
Everything else will take care of itself.
Fourteen Forever.
31 August, 2009 at 1:31 am
@ Jew America
You are ineducable, and keep on repeating the same nonsense like some it’s some magic incantation. Pathetic!
31 August, 2009 at 1:38 am
in reply to Adam (4):
you wrote:
in reply:
The technical means, such as you define them, fall well short of the definition of Spengler.
It seems you are not willing to do the simplest of things, starting where you are, but expect some sort of Deux Ex Machina – some sort of magical God from the Machine – to do for us what we can easily do for ourselves.
To paraphrase you, “If the white race is to be saved, the WILL to save it must first be developed.”
The tools, and techniques, will follow.
you wrote:
in reply:
There is no stronger tool – and technique – than starting where yo are, freeing yourself from the control of our parasitical Racial Enemies, and developing yourself into a better person.
Then, by your example, you will be able to help your Family, your Extended Family, and your Race.
Why not look at the Marine Corps height-weight standards, and start there?
Think of it this way:
An unknown Austrian had only a weight bar, some weights, a Dream, a Plan, and WILL.
He came to America with less than twenty dollars in his pocket.
He became the Governor of California.
And he’s not finished.
Neither are we.
Fourteen Forever.
31 August, 2009 at 1:43 am
in reply to Adam:
you wrote:
in reply:
I’m going to break my vow to not feed trolls just to make a point.
When your arguments are overcome so easily, and so consistently, by someone who always – ALWAYS – manages to tie HIS arguments back to the theme of the thread, perhaps you should lower your voice, and strengthen your arguments.
Your Childish reliance of some magical technology sounds like someone who has spent far too much time reading Warhammer 40K books, and not enough time studying social organization.
Perhaps your next piece of magical technology will involve ruby slippers.
The rest of us will be laying the foundation of a new nation.
Fourteen Forever.
31 August, 2009 at 1:50 am
I don’t argue with idiots. Dream on, Jew America.
31 August, 2009 at 6:49 am
Thanks. I needed that. It is what you said you’d post after having a good cry. I thought you’d forgotten.
31 August, 2009 at 7:07 am
Pat’s problem is that he does not NAME THE JEW! If he did he would not be allowed on the air. The right vs. left on TV is a joke! Let the White male eat shit until he finds that his dead Jew religion is his stumbling block! Stupid White male loves to eat Jew shit!
ED!
31 August, 2009 at 7:43 am
What many of the posters on this thread fail to realize is that Washington is a dog & pony show. Both sides of the isle working together & everyone has a roll including I think the almost always right minded Ron Paul.
What I think Alex is getting at is that we should not be swayed into thinking one of these actors might actually hold a solution for us.
If they in Washington could actually see what is going on like so many like to think there would be a lot more outrage & finger pointing in Congress if not out & out brawls in the isle. Even if there were I still wouldn’t believe them, there’s as much fake blood (in their veins) in Washington as there is in Hollywood.
I received an e-mail today looking for money for Newt Gingrich lambasting the bailout & borrowing money from the Chinese like this simple cock sucker is going to save us. I remember all the treading water he did in office, he’s a useless pig. “Join the conservative revolution” he’s as big of a horses ass as the far too late to be dead Ted Kenedy.
In the twenty years or so that I’ve been watching politics all the promises & hopes let out by the so called conservative right in Washington it only gets worse & worse. They are all nothing but a bunch of lying back stabbing whores.
No matter what happens there will always be one of them to read the script that applies to a certain American interest or hope. Only to sell us a little farther down the road when they unwaveringly compromise their original pledge.
They are a useless stone around our necks. Like an occupational provisional government they together both sides of the isle have an agenda that is not in our best interests. WAKE UP!
Nah Said:
“Buchanan is NOT the enemy. If he said “The Jews control Hollywood, Washington, D.C., and whites are being targeted for destruction by savages from the third world the Jews brought in to kill us with” he would never be on television or radio ever again.”
Yes but would he go out on a limb if he thought he could get away with it? I think not, it hasn’t been scripted yet.
31 August, 2009 at 7:51 am
Same certainly holds true for Alex Jones and, it hurts me to admit it, Ron Paul. I’d rather see Ron Paul in Congress not not in Congress but what he’s been doing– not naming the Jew– isn’t working for him to get serious national attention and he couldn’t be any more hated by big finance.
31 August, 2009 at 8:13 am
People, especially the thousands who have been laid off and more to occur, will see that our system is broken beyond repair – socially and economically. Do you think these people are going to wait for the ultimate technology, Adam?
Bombs and guns are available. They are not high-tech. The idiots who think they are safe and think their political power or jewish power is going to save them are treading on dangerous waters. Their system will implode; no high-tech gadjetry needed here.
31 August, 2009 at 8:17 am
(need to be added): Bombs and guns are available and the left, jews and other leftist thugs use them all the time.
31 August, 2009 at 8:17 am
Changing one’s paradigm is difficult. When you attended government schools for 14 years, maybe read the Washington Post before delivering it for years– which means having lived inside the Beltway, then went to college, and finally worked for the government for ten years, before STARTNG to wake up– considering the red or the blue pill, it isn’t that simple of a decision. And it is not simply a function of testosterone.
Catholics I’ve known have said (and Seventh-day Adventists know) that if they have and program a young child for a few years then they have them for life. I believe that government school works exactly the same way.
If I figure out what it takes, I’ll let you know. But I think this browbeating may work for some. It will simply run others off, which is, I suppose, the point, too. One thing I know is that real politicians are a different breed of cat and are unreasonable, pragmatic, and amoral.
My father was his own man and never progressed very far in his career because of it. He was always scrapping over something he wasn’t willing to do. His damn the torpedoes attitude inspried me to walk away from more than a few comfortable situations in work.
I’d like to hear from those here that “get it” how and why they got it. I’m sure that the vast majority of those not willing to be slaves are White and at least the potential to revolt is in their genes. My guess in my own case is that there were trigger events that started waking me up. This thread is certainly one of them.
31 August, 2009 at 8:29 am
I wonder how many who claim to be White Nationalists own TV sets? If you claim to be a White Nationalist and happen to own a TV set, then guess what – you’re a part of the problem. This struggle would be more fun if certain so-called members of our side learned to walk their talk.
31 August, 2009 at 8:40 am
Nearly all wn’s own a t.v., as it’s a good way to find the jews spin on a subject. You have too look at both sides which is what the libtards don’t do, and don’t want you to do. We don’t need mindless idiots that see a WN/NS label, and instantly say “THAT”S THE RIGHT WAY!!!!!”. We need people who can think for themselves and make their own decisions. The left is full of idiot’s who can’t think, lets consider it their ‘tard corral, and not let them out untill they can think. If you only look at the WN/NS side of everything, then you’re just as bad as the joo.
31 August, 2009 at 9:35 am
My path to WN was more of an instinctive reaction to the credibility gap, actually more of a chasm, that became visible in Britain during the 1970′s. At the time third world immigrants were pouring into the country and successive governments of whatever political persuasion were doing nothing to stop it, other than set high yearly quotas that actually encouraged more immigration. All the beautiful talking heads were saying this is a one-off event as Britain wound-up its colonial ‘responsibilties’.
At one point thousands of White protesters besieged Heathrow as the first of 50,000 Ugandan asians arrived. The protesters made clear that we didn’t want any more immigration, but it continued inexorably year on year.
It became obvious that these events weren’t accidents of history but part of a concerted plan to form a multiracial society and ultimately destroy the White race.
At this stage I still couldn’t figure who was behind this destructive program. Until a neighbor, a Catholic as it turned out, (old dutch won’t like that!) gave me some leaflets on the Russian Revolution. What, jewish ‘capitalists’ financing and nurturing a ‘communist’ revolution! It took quite some months to mentally digest that historical fact.
All the seeming contradictions of history disappear from the jigsaw when the missing piece with jew written on it is found and put in place.
31 August, 2009 at 9:57 am
That’s in England, and, that’s an anecdote. LOL. The Roman Catholic voting pattern in the US Congress is a matter of public record!
On this side of the big pond, Paddy O’Buchanan picked a colored woman as his vp running mate—something even his Irish Roman Catholic pal Ted Kennedy never accomplished. LOL.
In America, Buchanan contradicts himself on TV. He writes one thing, and the next morning on national TV he says something else totally opposite of what he had just written.. A total Irish Roman Catholic blowhard.
31 August, 2009 at 10:10 am
Coup d’Etat Says:
31 August, 2009 at 8:17 am
(need to be added): Bombs and guns are available and the left, jews and other leftist thugs use them all the time.
Un Quote.
Radical jooos/leftists two faced POS’s with money have moved to almost every rural area in the Western US and they are akin to Mao’s Red Guard or NKVD. They have in the county court houses. Radical enemy aliens from the 1950′s have their grandchildren in mole positions of power.
Almost all our police have no clue due to brain washing and lack of education.
31 August, 2009 at 12:30 pm
CW-2, in the 60′s there were “Rockers,” not unlike Skinheads, kicking “Paki” ass in England and it was being reported in the U.S. press, a phenomenon they called Paki bashing.
Immigration like destruction of morality is a single tool of the communist.
We’re ridiculed for calling a spade a spade: We’re still fighting communists. Calling them socialist, progressives, liberals, what have you, only benefits them. And since to remain a viable political party, they’ve been told, they must out-democrat the democrats, we need to call them communists, too.
31 August, 2009 at 1:41 pm
That was a great article by Alex,but i agree and also disagree with his premise.The “conservatards” ARE an obstacle to the masses hearing our message.But the bigger obstacle is the Jew control of our media,which we can NEVER hope to dismantle unless we start from “ground Zero”.It is for FEAR of the JEW,and the “power” they hold that the Conservatards won’t play “name the Jew”.The masses won’t hear our message unless its through the distorted lens of “jewsmedia”,as it is now.Every candidate for office is carefully “screened” to make sure their “kosher”.There is NO HOPE of reform through the “system”,which is culturally and racially smothering our people to the point of no return.
We WNs represent a “Radical” and “extremist” point of view most AmeriKwans aren’t ready to accept.They are still stuck on who won the game.I like Pat and have 2 or 3 of his books.He comes as close as one can in the mainstream to being “WN”.Just because he doesn’t take the final step and immolate himself on the Funeral Pyre,doesn’t mean he deserves our scorn.How many of you are willing to give up your family,lifestyle,possessions,and all you hold dear,to advance the “Cause” of our People?Not many i’ll bet,and yet its so easy to expect it of others.The sacrifices i mention were the risk taken by ALL the founding Fathers,and many of them did lose Loved Ones,Property,Fortune,and/or their Lives in the Quest to determine our own destiny.
Mr Buchanon provides a “mental stepping stone” for the
masses,who aren’t mentally ready quite yet for our view.All of us have gone through some sort of mental transition to get to the AWARENESS that we have now about the political and racial realities we face.People like Pat help Lemmings make the crucial transition,therefore,he is VALUBLE to our Cause.If he were out there intentionally “trying to Dupe” people,then i would scorn the man.I don’t feel thats the case however,and see him as a man of integrity and historical knowledge.Pat and people like him are under no obligation to “throw themselves under the Jewish Bus” anymore than we are.Especially when many of US who already believe aren’t willing to make that sacrifice ourselves.I feel as i read his books that he IS one of us,just not openly.I’m ok with that because we need people to help others make the transition to the WN “state of mind”.
I like many of the comments i read here.We all(well almost) have something to contribute.Although the in-fighting and dissension are a bit of a dissapointment,we are still in the process of shaping our views and the platform we should stand on politically.The Technological System,as one poster pointed out so astutely,IS destroying our People,but that system is run by our racial enemies,therefore we shouldn’t expect any less.The New Jew View is you can be replaced by a much cheaper 3rd world POS who doesn’t think as much,or expect as much,or need as much resource as you do “Whitey”.We have 2 choices as i see it,actually 3,but the 3rd is our extinction.We either have to reform “the system” which most of us believe is no longer possible,due to absolute Jew Control of our Money and Media apparatus,or Secede from the System thats killing us.
As a Son of the South,i don’t know if most of you “yankees” realize we damn near succeeded.What a seccession movement will need is outside support.If England had helped the South just a little more,Her Independance would have been won.What is Noble to me about that whole effort was the South told the Fed to “Shove it where the Sun doesn’t Shine” and GOD Damn the odds against us! This is the attitude WE will have to take,or our People will eventually perish,sooner,rather than later.Many of us will get the “South African Treatment”,as Channon and Christian did,if events keep progressing on their present path.If not you then someone you know maybe.We can agree,i think,that traditional “conservatism” has been an utter failure.The Left will continue to push their Rainbow Agenda no matter what,and with Big Jew Money and Media on their side they’ll always have the advantage over us.The most Dangerous part about traditional conservatism,is that people still believe it can reverse the situation,when it can’t,and doesn’t even articulate a platform that appeals to the majority of Whites.
However,we have to be ready to fill the gap,to present an alternative to the Nation/Race destroying poison of the ZOG.If we can build enough consensus,when the time is right-our people will follow us.We have to be ready to lead,as most of them won’t have a real clue.Building a healthy Racial Body/state is not possible with all the parts that have been poisoned by the Jews,within the “system”.Therefore,when calamitous conditions arise,secession will present itself as the answer to our problem.Texas and other states are already moving in that direction.The JewFedGov is losing its authority more and more everyday.Already 1/3 of AmeriKwans don’t pay any fedtax.An economic disaster of Great Depession proportions will speed the process along.I’m reminded of a quote by John Adams-”the Revolution was in the Hearts and Minds of the majority of People long before it became a fact”.The Town-Hall and Tea Party Protests are just the beginning of an Awakened Majority of Pissed-off White People.As things get worse and more repressive under “King Obongo”,more of our Kinsfolk will see the Light as we have,Let God and the Fuhrer hasten that day.
Ps-if Pat wasn’t a “closet” WN-he wouldn’t have appeared on the Political Cesspool.
31 August, 2009 at 2:58 pm
Who gives a shit if he’s a closet WN?
Will “men” who are too afraid to even take a stand on race lead to a white future? Linder said to raise our standards. Approving of “closet”(what a faggy term) WNs like Buchanan only means that you get more of them.
31 August, 2009 at 3:18 pm
Coup d’Etat Says:
People, especially the thousands who have been laid off and more to occur, will see that our system is broken beyond repair – socially and economically. Do you think these people are going to wait for the ultimate technology, Adam?
Genetic engineering, nanotechnology, and robotics aren’t science fiction. They’re already here. These are techniques that for the first time hold out the promise of granting the kind of god-like power to small groups, or even individuals, that previously had been the province only of governments. Further, it seems clear that progress in these areas will necessarily lead to the discovery of techniques that are capable of destroying the global technological system, and that such discoveries will happen in the relatively near future, if they have not been made already. So the discoveries themselves must be regarded as inevitable; from our point of view, all that would be needed would be the will to use them. The elites are worrying about this, but there’s little they can do to prevent what’s coming. Here, for example, Bill Joy, the founder of Sun Microsystems, speculates on a few possible threats, and decries the system’s powerlessness in the face of them:
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/8.04/joy_pr.html
The big question is whether these technologies will be used against the white race to further its destruction, or to save it. Since the technological system is itself inherently hostile to race, the former possibility is the default. The only way to make sure that they will be used to save it is for white people to master them with that goal in mind.
Bombs and guns are available. They are not high-tech. The idiots who think they are safe and think their political power or jewish power is going to save them are treading on dangerous waters. Their system will implode; no high-tech gadjetry needed here.
I’d agree that in theory, a thousand fanatics – or perhaps as few as only a handful – striking with cunning, at the right place and time, could topple the empire, even with conventional weapons. There are even many things about the current situation that could lead one to believe that we are nearing an especially propitious time for such a thing; an Archduke Ferdinand moment, if you will. Yet whites of such fanaticism, willing to die for their race, are in very short supply nowadays. Also, even if a few such fanatic visionaries could be found, the idea of a revolution that is merely political fails, ultimately, because it depends on leading a mass movement. For the reasons I’ve given, I just don’t think that there’s any prospect of that. What is needed instead is a revolt against the global technological system itself. If the global technological system is destroyed, the white race will be saved, and return in due course to its natural position of dominance over the lesser races – if any are left to be dominated in such a post-apocalyptic world.
31 August, 2009 at 3:59 pm
“Immigration like destruction of morality is a single tool of the communist.
We’re ridiculed for calling a spade a spade: We’re still fighting communists. Calling them socialist, progressives, liberals, what have you, only benefits them. And since to remain a viable political party, they’ve been told, they must out-democrat the democrats, we need to call them communists, too.”
Spot on. Notice how Conservatives never call them communists? They play the same game and use the enemy’s terms, just like Alex warned about them.
31 August, 2009 at 8:43 pm
Adam wrote: “Worse, technological advances in weaponry have accrued a million times more power to central governments since then, and particularly to the US government, which is the most heavily armed, most intrusive government in all history. So a conventional war against the state is completely out of the question. ”
I disagree.
Centralized governments are more reliant on technology than ever before… and for that reason they are more vulnerable than ever before. ZOG’s military is totally dependent on WHITE people producing WHITE technology, but ZOG is actively working to purge itself of all able bodied whites. Even if we do nothing… ZOG is working as hard as it can to destroy its own military from within.
See this article on affirmative action in the Navy for an example of how ZOG is doing our work for us: http://www.amren.com/mtnews/archives/2009/06/the_cost_of_a_d.php
The only reason Hitler and the Confederacy lost is because they were up against other White men. If there were an actual race war between a unified White resistance and ZOG’s army of mulattoes… you really think they’d have a chance? seriously?
Niggers can’t run a chicken shack right, let alone maintain a modern technological military originally built by White men.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=su0U37w2tws
31 August, 2009 at 9:01 pm
I stand with Alex Linder! The most significant piece of verse I can recall having ever read. I was ambivalent about The Gelding but now my mind is at ease and I can see clearly.
As for you other anonymous supporters and detractors of this exquisite verse, go looking in the mirror! You will see nothing but another gelding.
Stallions are not anonymous! Nor are genuine White Nationalists.
31 August, 2009 at 9:40 pm
I think Leucocyte hit on a solution to a problem we have long had, but could not resolve to our satisfaction.
Leucocyte wrote, in part:
in reply:
I have been trying to sum our philosophy in as few words as possible, using words that are as compelling as possible.
“White Nationalism” is a bit too abstract for most people.
Even the Fourteen Words require more explanation than I might have thought.
I like this:
Bystander: “What are your polices? What are you for?”
Answer: “A future for white children, and that is the only issue that matters.”
I LIKE that.
We can Do Something with that.
Fourteen Forever
31 August, 2009 at 11:46 pm
Centralized governments are more reliant on technology than ever before… and for that reason they are more vulnerable than ever before.
All over the world, centralized governments are always eager to adopt the newest technology, and they do so because it increases their control over the people. At the same time, many states encompass ethnic groups and races that hate each other and are highly motivated to separate. If centralized governments’ reliance on technology made them more vulnerable, then we’d see these states being abolished left and right, but we don’t. Instead, centralized government is an institution in the modern world; it is itself a very successful technique that has supplanted all prior forms and alternatives. Even in political revolutions of whatever stripe, all that usually happens is that one centralized government gets replaced with another. Although we ourselves on ideological grounds might prefer a loose federation with minimal centralized control, the verdict rendered by history is that such a configuration is highly unstable. It’s inefficient, and quickly reverts to centralized control when under stress. This flows from the very nature of technique. Technical systems are focused on results, and one can reliably obtain results only when one has absolute control of a situation. More freedom means more randomness which means less control, leading to inferior results.
Due to economies of scale, another irresistible trend of the technological system is to further centralize control and create supranational governments and international enforcement agencies such as the UN. Big states can command more resources, and larger militaries, with which to bully smaller ones; larger economies can dominate smaller ones. This leads to the formation of blocks and alliances, both military and economic. Economic agreements and unions such as NAFTA, CAFTA, GATT, and the EU are laying the groundwork for the ultimate centralization of one world government. The effort to bring this about is a conspiracy, of course, but it’s not just a conspiracy. Where there is large-scale economic activity across national boundaries, or large-scale social mixing, it is simply more efficient for the laws to be the same. If this has the side effect of the de facto elimination of the nation state and race, then so much the worse for the nation state and race. Remember too, the technological system always follows the same pattern. Economic relations between nations/races lead to political relations between nations/races, which in turn give rise to social mixing between the nations/races, which ends in mixing the genetics of the respective nations/races, and race is destroyed. Even if a white state could overcome million-to-one odds in order to be established, it would just get sucked back into these trends toward internationalism so long as it existed in the context of the global technological system.
The only reason Hitler and the Confederacy lost is because they were up against other White men. If there were an actual race war between a unified White resistance and ZOG’s army of mulattoes… you really think they’d have a chance? seriously?
Yet what makes you think that the white race would be unified? It has never been so before. To me, it seems likely that any self-proclaimed white republic would face the same sort of opposition by the majority of the white race that was faced by Hitler, and faced by the Confederacy. If the white race were ethnocentric enough to be able to be unified, neither Hitler nor the Confederacy would have been opposed.
1 September, 2009 at 12:15 am
Poor Patty. He is criticized by talented writers at VNN for being a winking, nodding eunuch. Then Heidi at SPLC has a go at him, too; she’s in a lather that he’s not only “pushing racist ideas” but, much worse, is still permitted to hold onto his high-profile job in the media.
But thru it all, he cranks out those books and sells them by the ton. He’s got to be doing something right. Gotta give credit where it’s due! :)
1 September, 2009 at 12:59 am
But thru it all, he cranks out those books and sells them by the ton. He’s got to be doing something right. Gotta give credit where it’s due! :)
I’m with you, Stronza. PJB has his cake and gets to eat it as well.
1 September, 2009 at 10:27 pm
Stop being conservative and start being racial! It’s a matter of honor and courage! If you will not stop, you lack both!
1 September, 2009 at 11:43 pm
From the essay:
We beat the jews by laughing at them and fighting them. Laughter is the proper means of verbal warfare. Not “proving” things. Not footnoting. Not remonstrating. Not being polite and respectful. Not playing along with appearances. Not not doubting motives.
I used to believe this, but after extensive experimentation with it, I’m less enthusiastic. I now think there is something to be said for using Jew tactics like this, but not much. First, you have to realize that the Jew uses these tactics because he is trying to intimidate you into silence. He doesn’t want to talk about the underlying facts, because that’s where he is weak, so he is trying to turn it into a shouting match. Therefore, if you respond in kind you are doing what he wants. You are attacking him at his strongest point, not his weakest one. Second, by joining verbal battle with these tactics, you are legitimating this form of argumentation. You are helping to make our already jewy culture even more jewy, and this is not a good idea. The sort of people who are persuaded by the Jews’ cheap rhetoric instead of reason are fickle, likely soon to desert any cause they join. Dr. Pierce seemed to realize this, and explicitly targeted the top 5% or so of whites who were reachable through their minds, not their emotions. Finally, even if you win the exchange, frequently all that one accomplishes by humiliating the Jew in verbal combat is making the Jew look like a victim again, which is what he wants. Employed as demagoguery to whip up the lemmings, you could say that it sometimes loses less badly than the scholarly approach, but it still loses. Instead of winning over the one in a thousand or so that impeccably argued, carefully footnoted racist arguments usually win over, you might boost that to three. But you’ll be getting quantity, not quality. Its main attraction is that it’s a lot of fun to verbally slap around the Jews and their supporters.
There are many principles of social interaction that aren’t commutative, and I think this is one of them. Just because the king and his retinue can mock, ridicule, and laugh you to scorn with impunity doesn’t mean that you can do that to the king; and just because these tactics work for the Jews against us doesn’t mean that we can respond by using them against the Jews. It would be nice if it did, but if the object is to win the brainwashed masses over to white racism, it’s more often the case than not that the lemmings observing the exchange are so well-trained that they will only be horrified. The same jokes they thought were so funny about you, when turned around and used against the Jew, are no longer funny at all. By using them, your offense is one of lese majesty; you have assaulted the dignity of the king. After all, they think that the Jews are the Chosen People, and they’ll be sure to point out that Jesus was a Jew. The lemmings’ faith in the Holocaust fable is absolute, probably stronger than his faith in gravity or the evidence of his own eyes. For such dimwits laughing at the Jew or his supporters is blasphemy, madness.
1 September, 2009 at 11:48 pm
http://www.originaldissent.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12417
2 September, 2009 at 12:27 am
in reply to Adam:
Your criticism of part of Linder’s essay is based on a fragment that you took out of context.
Let me place that fragment in it’s context, in the essay, and then place the essay in the greater context, of our Duty to our Posterity to begin NOW to BE the Living Foundation of a White Homeland, using Harold Covington’s Northwest Republic Analytical Model.
Adam quoted Alex Linder, in part:
Now to place your quote in it’s larger context:
Alex Linder continued:
in reply:
Well, there it is.
You quoted Linder out of context, and then criticized – part of your Culture of Critique, perhaps? – without placing Linder’s quote In context, at least the available context of the balance of the quote.
I won’t both dealing with your reply; you’ve picked a straw man, and built a larger straw man to do battle with him.
I’ll set the straw men on fire, with the Light of Truth.
SEE how Linder began with verbal mockery – which begins with NOT accepting the Jew’s Terms and Definitions at all.
The “laughter” comes from mockery, and the mockery comes from a greater understanding – an Analytical Framework – that SEE what the Jews are trying to do, and not going along with it like, well, cattle.
TO quote Peter Schaenk, THAT, in good part, how the Jew took over America without firing a shot, through control of the Words we hear and the pictures we see.
So, we take the fangs out of the serpent, and mock him.
That is only part of what Linder described, and prescribed.
Look again, and read a bit more closely:
Alex Linder continued:
in reply:
Note that Linder begins by noting the obvious – the tools of the Jews only work on the “weaklings, the losers, the conservatives.”
This is because, at best, they are unwitting co-conspirators against their Race.
At worst, they are consciously and willfully Race Traitors.
Linder then quoted the Mindset we should have, and quickly placed it in a larger context than you realized.
Alex Linder wrote:
in reply:
Here, in part, is the context:
“Charlie Brown,” of “Peanuts” comic strip fame, refers to the fat, stupid, dull, half-witted, bald idiot who passively accepts the fate given to him, and even becomes an active co-conspirator in his chosen impotence.
Remember what happened to Charlie Brown with frightening regularity:
Lucy would have him run and kick the football, which she held for him.
At the last second, she would pull the football away.
Charlie Brown, slow on the uptake, would kick at the empty space, which he THOUGHT was a football, go end over end, and fall on his back.
Lucy would then you, “YOU BLOCKHEAD, CHARLIE BROWN!”
The next damn week, it would happen again.
That is a quick summary of how the White American Male has been played for a fool, with the CONservaitves working hand-in-hand with the Jews to create an “Enemy of the Week” for them to waste their energy fighting.
“Civil Rights?”
Check.
“Communist Conspiracy?”
Check.
“Globalist Bankers?”
Check.
“CFR – Trilateralists – Bilderbergers?”
Check.
ALL of the rantings and raving of the self-selected CONservatives came to nothing, as was intended.
After all, all they were doing is shadow-boxing, and if they ever actually HIT one, their hands would hurt.
The Shadows felt nothing.
Indeed, and this will be an important point that I will address later, the Shadows ONLY have the energy and power we give them.
In a larger context, Linder is referring to a Peanuts comic strip that I only saw once.
It was featuring a conversation with Schroeder, Charlies Brown’s friend, and a skilled musician.
Schroeder said, “I’m not like you, Charlie Brown. I have to win sometimes.”
The CONservatives never have to win.
They feel good, righteous and morally superior when they lose, thanks to the JUDEO-Christian indoctrination they have received.
Linder then placed THAT segment – Lion Schroder versus Dung Beetle Charlie Brown (pushing around balls of dungall day, which is a metaphor for their lives of very quiet desperation) – in a greater context, showing us what it meant TO us, and FOR us:
Alex Linder wrote:
in reply:
We’ve been taught that we were calves, who might grow up to be cattle.
We need to be “captured” by a pride of lions, who could take us under the stars, and help us to recapture our Heritage, and fulfill our Racial Destiny.
We would then step over the dung beetles, and give them the dung, and mud, they so desperately seek, and deserve.
For THEIE Posterity, the paste-glass jewel of (rapidly fading!) middle-class respectability, as they live lives bound to the mud, chasing dung and considering it treasure.
For MY Posterity…
Honor, Discipline, and the Stars.
This is a destiny they can only fulfill if they look UP, and define their lives in a larger context.
Becoming the Living Foundation of a White Homeland, using the bright, clear guidance of Harold Covington’s Northwest Republic Analytical Model, is The Way.
For them, and for us.
Fourteen Forever
2 September, 2009 at 1:15 am
Oh, great. Another goofy attack from Jew America. Does anyone actually read these to the end? Seen one, seen ‘em all. Let’s see, they all go about like this:
Out of context … blah blah blah… Harold Covington … start where you are … blah blah blah … Harold Covington … Northwest Republic Analytical Model … snoooooooore.
How much is Covington paying you to plug him every day? Whatever it is, it’s too much!
2 September, 2009 at 2:58 am
I used to say ‘Destroy the Republican Party.’ It’s time to change that to ‘Destroy Conservatism.’
2 September, 2009 at 10:07 am
And I believe this piece should be honed/edited some more; I believe it should be a declaration of war against Conservatism and Christianity.
Conservatives and Christ seem to me to be the mind poisoning idealogical impediments to a forceful response to the enemy.
2 September, 2009 at 11:55 am
. . . mind poisoning effeminating anonymizing idealogical impediments to a forceful response to the enemy.
How many MEN do you know who are preachers or Christians who wear their Christianity on their sleeve or conservative ideologues?
I never knew a tough man who was a preacher, never; and living in Mississippi, I bet I’ve seen more preachers than any of you. They are all Pussies.
Prayer and talk of Limited Government, Lower Taxes, etc. just ain’t workin’!
2 September, 2009 at 12:17 pm
“Conservatives and Christ seem to me to be the mind poisoning idealogical impediments to a forceful response to the enemy.”
Couldn’t agree more.
2 September, 2009 at 3:09 pm
I like your post, Adam.
“They” are successful by just being what they are. We can’t pretend to be like them and get away with it. Hey, maybe Buchanan & Ron Paul if given half a chance and corner-shot guns could be as vicious as necessary. But maybe they understand themselves, maybe they know that behaving like the enemy at the present time is not who they are and must backfire.
2 September, 2009 at 3:50 pm
Lead, follow or get the Hell out of the way; the two Geldings will not lead, will not follow and will not get out of the way while at the same time the enemy is trying and succeeding at killing and destroying us; the two Geldings deserve the same fate of that donkey on the bridge in the Patton movie.
2 September, 2009 at 8:06 pm
Many replies, but I hope you read this one, Alex. I have som experience of how people react to the half-nationalists. Basically, there are two kinds of conservatives: those who take an active stand against nationalism and those who don’t. The first group, the neocons and similar, are our enemy – they lead people astray. But the second group can work as a stepping stone. They are not in the way, they are the way for many people to move on to us.
Pat Buchanan and people like him tell people to think of Whites as a people, with an identity of their own. If Whites think like that, all else follows. For most of us anyway.
Yes, most people don’t go online to find us. They hear, at the most, Buchanan. But how would these people find us better, if Buchanan wasn’t there?
Yes, Buchanan is on TV and we are not. But if there was no Buchanan, would that mean that we would be on TV instead?
Buchanan is in fact very nationalist in his writing. People who read that are often tempted to read more from other sources. The key here is that Buchanan does not warn against us racialists. That is why he can be a stepping stone, instead of an obstacle.
2 September, 2009 at 10:28 pm
“In the novel and movie The Godfather, the Godfather’s first consigliere (adviser) was a Sicillian, Genco Abbandando. He dies at the beginning of the novel, and the Godfather’s adopted son, the calm and intelligent Irish lawyer Tom Hagen, takes over. When Sonny is in charge and the war is going badly he screams at Hagen ‘Pop had Genco, look what I got.’”
And look what we got, a Gelding.
We need a Stallion not a stepping stone Gelding.
2 September, 2009 at 10:46 pm
test
2 September, 2009 at 10:47 pm
Adam: “What could possibly be done with such people, even if you could win them over?”
To lead them.
Adam: “That’s all this current lot is good for.”
There’s nothing wrong with the masses. The masses have always been this way. Society couldn’t function if the masses were otherwise.
The problem is and always has been jewish media control. Control the media and you control the masses. Pierce had it 99% right.
Adam: “A guerrilla war such as is being fought in Iraq is possible, but would likely fail, unless control could be gained over nuclear or other doomsday-type weapons.”
Don’t forget that the U.S. armed forces have been deliberately stuffed full of women and minorities to make the possibility of a military coup against ZOG less likely. That may have made them less of a threat to ZOG, but it also made them much less competent.
Let’s also not forget that Americans are armed to the teeth (which is a situation almost unique in the world) and that bioweapons are the great equalizer as far as “weapons of mass destruction.”
2 September, 2009 at 10:50 pm
“I wonder how many who claim to be White Nationalists own TV sets?”
I own one, but the only thing that plugs into it is a DVD player and a VCR.
2 September, 2009 at 10:51 pm
“Until a neighbor, a Catholic as it turned out, (old dutch won’t like that!) gave me some leaflets on the Russian Revolution.”
Catholics get the jewish problem but have trouble with race.
2 September, 2009 at 10:52 pm
“But the bigger obstacle is the Jew control of our media,which we can NEVER hope to dismantle unless we start from ‘ground Zero’.”
Two words: the Internet.
2 September, 2009 at 10:52 pm
“Yet whites of such fanaticism, willing to die for their race, are in very short supply nowadays.”
They won’t be when they’re starving to death (coming soon to a neighborhood near you).
2 September, 2009 at 10:55 pm
“If the global technological system is destroyed, the white race will be saved, and return in due course to its natural position of dominance over the lesser races – if any are left to be dominated in such a post-apocalyptic world.”
This is foolish, and for the reasons that I outlined here:
http://igoralexander.wordpress.com/2009/06/12/ship-of-fools/#comment-1335
The genie’s out of the bottle. There isn’t going to be a technological regression, and if there is, it sure as hell won’t be good for us.
2 September, 2009 at 11:03 pm
“Finally, even if you win the exchange, frequently all that one accomplishes by humiliating the Jew in verbal combat is making the Jew look like a victim again, which is what he wants.”
If you’ve made him look like a victim, then you’re not doing it right. The point is to make yourself look like a victim even as you’re attacking him. That’s how the jews do it to us.
2 September, 2009 at 11:18 pm
“And I believe this piece should be honed/edited some more; I believe it should be a declaration of war against Conservatism and Christianity.”
Trying to reform Christianity would be more productive than trying to destroy it. I don’t see a future for the white race if it doesn’t have a religion, and I have yet to see a suitable replacement for Christianity.
2 September, 2009 at 11:38 pm
Igor Alexander Says:
“If the global technological system is destroyed, the white race will be saved, and return in due course to its natural position of dominance over the lesser races – if any are left to be dominated in such a post-apocalyptic world.”
This is foolish, and for the reasons that I outlined here:
http://igoralexander.wordpress.com/2009/06/12/ship-of-fools/#comment-1335
I don’t think you’ve thought deeply enough about this. If sufficient care is taken in choosing the method of destruction, the global technological system will be impossible to rebuild. It is an exceedingly complex system with lethal side effects for the white race and the continued existence of human races in general, but it is not particularly robust. As a general rule, the more complex a system is, the more vulnerabilities it has. As complexity continues to increase geometrically in coming years, that situation will only worsen.
Just for a start, consider that for most vital mineral resources of a technological society, the easily available ones have already been used up. “Primitive”, pre-technological man was able to find lumps of easily smeltable copper, zinc, iron, gold, silver, and other minerals with relatively little effort. Those easy sources are gone now – all used up – and the further exploitation of current sources depends on the existence of an already-existing, highly technical global physical plant, that is also very transportation and energy dependent. A sufficiently powerful disruption to the supply chain anywhere along its length might be enough to permanently cripple the technological system. There are even ways such a thing might be done with only a few people. Anyone intelligent enough to understand the argument here is capable of puzzling out what some of those ways might be on his own.
A deliberate attack on the global technological system by a highly motivated cell of ethnonationalists, or even one man with the right tools striking it at the right place, might bring it down permanently. That would save the white race – from the threat posed by Jewish control, and from the even greater threat posed by the system itself. Any event of sufficient power to plunge the world into a new Dark Age might well do so permanently, because not only the tools to extract resources needed to keep global technological civilization running would be lost, but even the knowledge of how to make the tools, and the tools to make the tools, would also be lost. In the course of a few generations, global technological society would simply rust away, never to return. That’s the only permanent solution, and it’s definitely achievable. On the other hand, if the technological system is left intact, the formation of a white racist, secessionist rump state, as envisioned a few days ago by O’Meara, would be a futile half-measure that would only delay the inevitable, even if it could be done – and all the signs are that it can’t. Remember too, the technological system always follows the same pattern. Economic relations between nations/races lead to political relations between nations/races, which in turn give rise to social mixing between the nations/races, which ends in mixing the genetics of the respective nations/races, and race is destroyed. Even if a white state could overcome million-to-one odds in order to be established, it would just get sucked back into these trends toward internationalism so long as it existed in the context of the global technological system.
The genie’s out of the bottle. There isn’t going to be a technological regression,
That’s probably what they were saying in Rome about 470 AD. Anyway, clearly Bill Joy doesn’t think so. He’s a man who actually has thought it through, and he is quite worried that the development of the means to destroy the technological system is pretty much a certainty. See the link I provided above to his essay “Why the Future Doesn’t Need Us”, for more.
and if there is, it sure as hell won’t be good for us.
Cultural forms and moral standards, the values a society establishes for itself, are tied to its level of technological development, and consist of an interaction between that level of development and certain genetic predispositions that are based on race. Societal plagues such as feminism, non-white immigration, race-mixing, declining fertility, looseness of sexual mores, and a decay in virtue generally, track very tightly with the expansion of the technological system. Without scientific methods of birth control, feminism would not exist, women would rediscover chastity, and fertility would not be declining. Sexual mores would return of their own accord to what they were in the past. Without techniques of mass transportation, there would be very little immigration into white lands, and race-mixing would not be a problem.
3 September, 2009 at 12:27 am
Igor Alexander Says:
Adam: “What could possibly be done with such people, even if you could win them over?”
To lead them.
And where would Linder lead his army of people who, by his own admission, can barely tell the ground from the sky? Into the “tard corral”?
An elite cadre can be led. The masses can only be herded, corralled, tended like a shepherd tends a flock.
Adam: “That’s all this current lot is good for.”
There’s nothing wrong with the masses. The masses have always been this way. Society couldn’t function if the masses were otherwise.
The problem is and always has been jewish media control. Control the media and you control the masses. Pierce had it 99% right.
If you have a plan for gaining control of the mass media, I’d like to hear it. AFAIK, no one has yet got beyond “try harder”, or some such similar power-of-positive-thinking nonsense. Let’s hear your detailed plan, if you’ve got one.
The truth is, whites lost control of the mass media because they weren’t racist enough to hold on to it, and their lack of racism was due primarily to genetic factors. If they weren’t racist enough to hold on to it, they won’t be able to become racist enough to retake it; at least, short of genetic modifications. The collapse of the global technological system makes taking it back unnecessary.
3 September, 2009 at 12:57 am
Igor Alexander Says:
“Finally, even if you win the exchange, frequently all that one accomplishes by humiliating the Jew in verbal combat is making the Jew look like a victim again, which is what he wants.”
If you’ve made him look like a victim, then you’re not doing it right. The point is to make yourself look like a victim even as you’re attacking him. That’s how the jews do it to us.
Let’s call this the racial egalitarian fallacy. Ironically, my fellow racists here who subscribe to this way of thinking are assuming that all races are equally capable of obtaining the same results.
I’ve never seen anyone out-victim the Jew and frankly don’t believe it’s possible. Got any examples? As I said, a lot of societal principles aren’t commutative. Just because Peter can beat up Paul doesn’t mean that Paul can beat up Peter. Peter may have advantages in strength and skill that Paul doesn’t have. Or to use an example more to the point, just because the Jew can become wealthy and take over the mass media by ethnic networking doesn’t mean that whites can take it back. Whites aren’t as inherently racist as Jews, aren’t as predatory, and to put it bluntly, the vast majority of them simply DON’T CARE if they disappear as a race.
However, the racial INegalitarian truth is that there is a white way to win, one that is quite different than the Jew’s way. If we believe Bill Joy, such a way will almost certainly be found soon in the fields of genetics, robotics, or nanotechnology, if it hasn’t been discovered already. Can the white race produce someone with the genius to discover such a way and use it? We shall see.
3 September, 2009 at 1:05 am
in reply to Adam:
Jesus, Dorothy, sure getting a lot of mileage out of those ruby slippers, aren’t you?
This is why Linder’s “Charlie Brown and Lucy’s Football vs. Schroeder’s Skills” is more important than you have mentioned.
It gets down to Mindset, and it gets down to Race.
Your critique – always, it seems, you live in some Deleuzeian fantasy culture of critique, and lacking any sort of constructive criticism – is based on your usual junior college sophistry masking as intellectual sophistication.
Sadly, you fail both the tests of intellectual depth, and cultural sophistication.
And, your proposals for “strategy” resemble little of value to Linder’s posts – but, that’s to be expected.
Now, to what Igor Alexander said, and why your replies are wrong, wrong-headed, and worthy of Deleuzeional people, indeed.
you wrote:
Igor Alexander Says:
“If the global technological system is destroyed, the white race will be saved, and return in due course to its natural position of dominance over the lesser races – if any are left to be dominated in such a post-apocalyptic world.”
This is foolish, and for the reasons that I outlined here:
http://igoralexander.wordpress.com/2009/06/12/ship-of-fools/#comment-1335
you replied:
in reply:
Read what Germany did to overcome a horrific economic depression, and how it restructured its economic and industrial system to meet the needs of the German people, even while the economic infrastructure was being destroyed.
That system was “complex,” that system had “vulnerabilities,” but it had really smart people with a White way of thinking, who enabled a country the size of Oregon to fight a two front war, with one of those fronts being Russia, for a remarkable season.
Their system of developing synthetic petroleum from coal is still the model used today at the most advanced system in the world, the SASOL plant.
So, at all points, the White Race at its best uses its unique Culture and Mindset to demonstrate the folly of your overly broad, “underly” thought-out assertions.
I’ve seen your kind and quality of thought before, in high school honor society students who just discovered “Atlas Shrugged.”
It usually changes when they read “Mein Kampf,” and positively, for the more mature, and much better.
you wrote:
in reply:
See how Rhodesia restructured its economic system.
See how OPEC thought to dominate the Western economies with oil – like the South in 1865 with cotton – and see how dramatically things have changed.
WE can make thorium breeder reactors, and use them to power a rebuilt electrical grid with high-sped rail connecting the nation.
THEY are stuck with oil.
Remember the words (loosely paraphrased) of Alex Linder:
Take ANY State in the Union, no matter how forsaken it seems, no matter how bad the weather, the terrain, the resources, whatever. Give us our Constitutionally guaranteed RIGHT of Free Association, and make that State “WHITES ONLY.”
Then, just stand back as the greatest land rush in American history runs you over as the people who made America a great nation leave the dying carcass, and leave the dead, to the dying.
Come back in fifty years and watch as Mankind’s first starship launches from OUR RACIAL HOMELAND.
you wrote:
in reply:
Only on Fantasy Island.
Your model for social evolution seems to keep us on a fantasy-driven hamster wheel, where your cleverest attempts to dest4roy the technological system are easily foiled by the people who use, and work with, the technological system.
Perhaps your arguments might have made sense in the Dark Ages.
But, fortunately, we are a long way past that.
You might want to join us.
you wrote:
in reply:
Oh, but it can.
A little leaven leavens the loaf.
Look what happens, with all of its technology, to any formerly White city when the White Race leaves.
Look at the ruins of Detroit.
Indeed, O’Meara’s formulation is the ONE model of Racial organization the government will do ALL in its power to stop.
Blacks want to form New Africa in the American South?
Fine.
Go right ahead.
Mexicans want to take over California, and the American South up to the lines of the 1848 Treaty of Guadolupe-Hidalgo?
Fine.
They will even finance La Raza, and MALDEF.
White people want to organize in ANY sort of political organization, much less one leading to an ethnostate like, say, Harold Covington’s Northwest Republic?
THEY WILL BE ACTIVELY BLOCKED AT ALL POSSIBLE POINTS.
Why?
Well, in part, it’s because the Parasites know that, when the White Man leaves, the town falls down.
LOOK at the ruins of Detroit, today, and compare it with pictures of Detroit in the LIFE magazine archive on Google from the Forties and Fifties.
The issue is not technology, per se.
The issue is the unique gift of Western Civilization, which ONLY the White Race could Create, Sustain, and develop even further, leading a path of Racial Destiny for OUR Posterity as they walk Among The Stars.
Again, Linder:
Take ANY State in the Union, no matter how forsaken it seems, no matter how bad the weather, the terrain, the resources, whatever. Give us our Constitutionally guaranteed RIGHT of Free Association, and make that State “WHITES ONLY.”
Then, just stand back as the greatest land rush in American history runs you over as the people who made America a great nation leave the dying carcass, and leave the dead, to the dying.
Come back in fifty years and watch as Mankind’s first starship launches from OUR RACIAL HOMELAND.
I am repetitive because I am trying to make a point.
Point made.
you wrote:
in reply:
You seem almost Marxian – Jewish, if you will – in your belief in determinism.
There is no reason for a White ethnostate – like Harold Covington’s Northwest Republic – should regress back to the New Normal, which resembles nothing so much as a mud Hell.
Just do what Linder said, and get that sign up at the borders of that state.
Igor Alexander wrote:
The genie’s out of the bottle. There isn’t going to be a technological regression,
you replied:
in reply:
I think Joy has moderate his comments somewhat from that essay.
Even Vernor Vinge moderated his belief in the Singularity.
Again, your inherent fatalism limits you, and your thinking.
Try to do better.
Read some more of O’Meara’s excellent works.
THEN, get Harold Covington’s books of the Northwest Republic.
Stop having your thinking defined by Old Europe.
Igor Alexander wrote:
…and if there is, it sure as hell won’t be good for us.
in reply:
Alexander is correct.
you wrote:
in reply:
It’s good of you to mention Race.
Only ONE Race has made technology work, you know.
Why do you suppose that is?
you wrote:
3 September, 2009 at 1:22 am
Yawn.
3 September, 2009 at 1:39 am
Igor Alexander Says:
Trying to reform Christianity would be more productive than trying to destroy it.
This is what Pierce thought could be done, as described in his book Hunter.
I don’t see a future for the white race if it doesn’t have a religion, and I have yet to see a suitable replacement for Christianity.
Jew worship is the new religion of white people, and I don’t mean any kind of Jesus cult. It is a worship of the secular Jew. They all want what the Jews have, they all want to become like the Jews. Disgracefully, even the so-called white racists want it. They openly advocate becoming like Jews, adopting Jew tactics, even looking for an Israel of their own!
3 September, 2009 at 5:43 am
“Trying to reform Christianity would be more productive than trying to destroy it. I don’t see a future for the white race if it doesn’t have a religion, and I have yet to see a suitable replacement for Christianity.”
Agree.
3 September, 2009 at 6:21 am
“Jew worship is the new religion of white people, and I don’t mean any kind of Jesus cult. It is a worship of the secular Jew. They all want what the Jews have, they all want to become like the Jews. Disgracefully, even the so-called white racists want it. They openly advocate becoming like Jews, adopting Jew tactics, even looking for an Israel of their own!”
Agree.
I sure would like to talk with this O’Meara fellow.
This is way better than TV.
3 September, 2009 at 6:50 am
I am going to re-read this URL many times; but one thing as I glance again at some of the brilliance being expressed here that is beyond my skill set that occurs to me is the issue of Honor in regard to whether Pat is the enemy or not.
Given our race is under attack and being destroyed, to my mind, Pat is acting dishonorably. And no matter how slick your defense of him is, there is no overcoming him acting dishonorably.
How is he acting dishonorably, you ask? He has a duty to be honest and tell the truth, the whole truth esp. given our dire straits. A very simple task that requires lots of courage. Anyone with his kind of knowledge and experience knows the truth and facts of the matter. Yet he remains silent. Such a man lacks honor and is indeed the enemy.
As to figuring out a survival strategy for whites, I believe honor and courage when marshaled by minds like yours, makes dang near anything possible.
3 September, 2009 at 8:41 am
IOW, while we may disagree over the best strategy, there can be no genuine disagreement over who and who is not the enemy. The former is unknown, speculative and theoretical the latter is not. Pat is on record as not ever advocating White Nationalism; you know, a white government, a white nation, a white culture.
Instead he props up the current regime by respecting it rather than attacking it. Any defense of this conduct is an inadequate excuse.
And I believe we can’t see all clearly with such titular leaders interfering with ideas about how to proceed.
Alex got it right big-time on this; attack his ass! Throw his ass off the bridge with the cart of conservatives he’s pulling and move forward; how exactly we move forward I don’t know precisely but getting that dang donkey from braying and blocking the bridge and getting to the other side, we’ll figure something out!
3 September, 2009 at 10:44 am
And let’s be clear about how Hitler came to power.
Weimar Germany had a parliamentary form of government, but with an elected President. For two years from 1930-1932 the “government” was ruling by Presidential decree and had no parliamentary voting majority.
Hindenburg appointed Hitler as Chancellor (basically prime minister) in January 1933 for a simple reason. Only Hitler could form a government able to obtain a majority vote in the Reichstag (parliament).
It was all Strictly Legal and democratic.
And it can be done again.
3 September, 2009 at 3:40 pm
“Yawn”
We’re you thinking of Yawn Stenerud, the hall-of-fame placekicker in the NFL?
http://brunvoll.nu/stenerud/
3 September, 2009 at 3:58 pm
Adam’s mentor-
Jacques Ellul (January 6, 1912 – May 19, 1994) was a French philosopher, law professor, sociologist, theologian, and Christian anarchist. He wrote several books about the “technological society” and the intersection between Christianity and politics, such as Anarchy and Christianity (1991)—arguing that anarchism and Christianity are socially following the same goal.
A philosopher who approached technology from a deterministic viewpoint, Ellul, professor at the University of Bordeaux, authored some 40 books and hundreds of articles over his lifetime, the dominant theme of which has been the threat to human freedom and Christian faith created by modern technology. His constant concern has been the emergence of a “technological tyranny” over humanity. As a philosopher and theologian, he further explored the religiosity of the technological society.
Ellul was born in Bordeaux, France, and was educated at the universities of Bordeaux and Paris. In World War II, he was a leader in the French resistance.[citation needed] For his efforts to save Jews he was awarded the title Righteous among the Nations by Yad Vashem in 1981.[1] He was also prominent in the worldwide Ecumenical movement, although he later became sharply critical of the movement for what he felt were indiscriminate endorsements of political establishments, primarily of the Left.[citation needed] However, he was no friendlier in his assessment of those of the Right, either; he fashioned an explicitly anti-political stance as an alternative to both (see below).
Ellul studied Karl Marx and became a prolific exegete of his theories. Ellul converted to Christianity at age 22.[citation needed] The influence of these ideologies has alternately earned him devoted followers and vicious enemies. In large measure and especially in those of his books concerned with theological matters, Ellul restates the viewpoints held by the great Protestant theologian Karl Barth, who was a leader of the resistance against the German state church in World War II. Barth’s polar dialectic of the Word of God, in which the Gospel both judges and renews the world, helped to shape Ellul’s theological perspective. Ellul went beyond Barth in one particular observation: “That which desacralizes a given reality, itself in turn becomes the new sacred reality”.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_Ellul
3 September, 2009 at 10:28 pm
in reply to Kuda Bux:
Thanks for the heads-up on Adam’s philosophical foundation.
Now it all makes sense.
Dorothy really needs his ruby slippers now!
The comments on Ellul explain why Adam finds VNN so challenging.
Ellul looked to a Christian/Anarchist anti-technological past.
Sort of like a kinder, gentler Pol Pot.
This is a sad, pathetic illusion.
Indeed, it ALMOST sounds like social hacking, where someone claiming to be sympathetic turns around and acts in a manner that neutralizes the forward motion of the organization.
Think of a kinder, gentler Hal Turner, who just may have monkeywrenched all manner of useful activities, particularly the amazing efforts of Yankee Jim.
“Yes, Alex, I agree with everything at VNN EXCEPT for…,” and then the EXACT OPPOSITE of an effective strategy – returning to a pastoral, pre-technological society – a la the Morgenthau Plan – suddenly becomes presented as a SOLUTION to our “problems.”
Good job of social hacking there, Dorothy!
The inescapable fact remains that we are effective – our Ideas are so effective that the Oligarchy blocks us from organizing at all points possible – because we have the greatest possible interests in mind, and that is (what is best for our Race, (2) as it fulfills its unique Destiny given to it, THE Creative Race, by the Creator. (Yes, that second part was loosely paraphrasing William Pierce.)
Thus, look at what is on OUR side, and look what side WE are on – the Race, pure and simple.
Thus, we have William Luther Pierce, defining Cosmotheism as a starting point for what Christianity should at least compelement, and Harold Covington, defining an entire new nation for us, and our Posterity.
Leave
AdamDorothy to the magical world of Rousseau, and his Deleuzional latter day adherents.Leave
AdamDorothy the ruby slippers, and the wishful substitute for clear thinking that combines Walter Mitty with Henry Morgenthau.Leave MY Posterity “Honor, Discipline, and the Stars,” as they walk TO THE STARS, so that, one day, THEIR Posterity may walk AMONG THE STARS.
Thanks again!
Fourteen Forever
3 September, 2009 at 10:43 pm
Kuda Bux Says:
Ellul went beyond Barth in one particular observation: “That which desacralizes a given reality, itself in turn becomes the new sacred reality”.
A brilliant remark from a brilliant man. Thanks for posting it. It describes what has happened to some of you to a tee. The Jews, having desacralized the West by conquering it and then shitting all over it, have become your new sacred reality. Your superficial anti-Semitism is only camouflage for your profound admiration of the Jews. I offer you a way to be rid of them and you won’t take it. You aren’t even curious about it, because deep down, you worship them, and want more than anything to be like them. They are gods to you. You think they are strong, and you know for a fact that you are weak. You feel it, and cower before them. Consequently, you recommend their behavior. You adopt their obsessive concern with money, and focus on getting wealthy by building up small businesses, just like they did. You fantasize about taking over the media, just like they did. You even argue like Jews, specializing in attacking with smears instead of facts and logic. Even your racism is just pretend. The only reason you say you love the white race is because it helps you feel more like the Jew, who actually does love his race. And because the Jews have Israel, above all you are obsessed with having your own whites-only Israel, so you can be more like your heroes.
Cheap imitators, that’s what you are. Jew wannabes. I wonder, do you white Jews have swastikas on your yarmulkes? Or just the conventional Star of David?
4 September, 2009 at 12:05 am
Hello,
AdamDorothy.A good job of social hacking has just been revealed as hackery, as
all such cowardice is when it stands in the Light of Truth – a
specialty here at VNN.
I guess those ruby slippers must have gone to your head.
That’s fine.
Let’s deal with your pathetic attempts at pedantry.
Adam wrote:
Kuda Bux Says:
Ellul went beyond Barth in one particular observation: “That which
desacralizes a given reality, itself in turn becomes the new sacred
reality”.
you replied:
in reply:
There is absolutely NO admiration for the Jews here.
There is respect or what they did, and how they did it, but only as
a matter of technique.
They are about ten for ten on any issue of legislation and social
policy you want to name.
We aren’t on the board.
You don’t have to LIKE what they do, to ADMIRE how they took
advantage of YOUR weaknesses.
You then pay them the highest compliment by beating them on YOUR
terms, which are more correct, than THEIR terms, which only
suit…them.
I intend to pay them many such compliments in the years to come.
you wrote:
in reply:
You never offered a “way to be rid of them.”
You offered some mystical conception of a pre-technological world, a
world where life is nasty, cold, hard, brutish and short.
WE offer a social order built on the most advanced technology we can
imagine, and in doing so lay the foundation for a yet more advanced
social order, with yet more advanced technology, one scarcely
indistinguishable from magic, all built on ONE QUESTION:
What is best for the White RACE?
you wrote:
in reply:
Why should we ‘be curious about (your solution)?
THAT is social hacking; offer a vague solution, and then have us ask
for your pearls of wisdom, which you will reveal to us one at a time,
slowly, like a carnival “magician.”
WE put OUR Ideas, based on our Ideals, right out there for one and
all to see and discuss.
Harold Covington’s Northwest Quarter series of books, laying out the
tools and techniques for founding a new nation, a White Racial
Homeland.
All you do is paraphrase long-discredited French philosophers,
deconstructionists, post-structuralists, semioticians, and other men
who could not even think of ONE way to a better world.
You REALLY don’t think these guys get together, knock down some a
few slugs of Mouton Rothschild, and laugh with each other at what
donkeys their followers are?
you wrote:
in reply:
It’s a matter of technique, and technology.
When you turn the light switch on, the light switch does not look to
your Race.
It simply works.
So, too, are the techniques that work for the Jews, and could work
equally well for us, like starting small businesses, and home-
schooling our Children our Racial Posterity.
As for “taking over the media like they did,” we really don’t want
that at all.
After all, all of their mediacorps – newspapers, tv, radio – are all
going under, being displaced with, and replaced by, the Internet.
(A White invention, by the way.)
Leave the Jews control of the stranded leviathans, and that include
entire sectors of the economy, and sections of the country.
Read my quote from Linder above.
ANY STATE, NO MATTER HOW FORBIDDING, NO MATTER HOW DESOLATE,
“WHITES ONLY.”
You can keep the rest of the country, which soon will be worth what
its new Americans are – propositions nations are always marked to the
market value of the paper their propositions are written on.
you wrote:
in reply:
You have, quite by accident, hit upon a useful truth.
Historically, in the Twentieth Century, particularly after 1960, our
“racism” has been pretty much a matter of “pretend,” BECAUSE the
practitioners adopted the Terms and Definitions offered to them by
our Racial Enemy, the Jews.
THAT is the “Lucy and the football, Charlie Brown” experience for us.
Look at yourself.
YOU use the Jewish developed term, “racists,” and “racism.”
Why not use the Harold Covington developed term, “Racially Conscious
Community?”
MUCH more inspiring, much less limiting, much more effective.
You don’t want to practice “pretend racism?”
No problem.
Take the pillowcase off of your head, the bedsheet from your body,
and TRY to remake yourself into the Living Foundation of our onw
Nation, the Northwest Republic.
You don’t even have to move to the Northwest.
Start where you are, with the Marine Corps height-weight charts, and
then move forward to the Marine Corps Physical Fitness Test.
When to start?
Today would be an excellent time.
Right now would be even better.
you wrote:
in reply:
Actually, we had a pretty much Whites Only America. See the
immigration Act of 1791.
So, the Jews would be following our example.
Perhaps we should return the favor.
you wrote:
in reply:
I have the Northwest Republic Tri-Color Flag.
It’s an excellent standard.
You might want to try it.
The Living Foundation of the White Nation, or a sock-puppet for dead
Frenchmen?
Seems pretty easy to me.
So, go ahead, Dorothy.
Send those ruby slippers to Race Traitor Hal Turner.
Let HIM click them together three times and say. “I want to go home.”
I’ll be working on building a NEW Home, a Racial Homeland, for MY
Posterity.
Race Traitor Hal Turner not allowed!
VNN”s Curt O’Brian:
You do know the goal is to have white men hunted and
destroyed while giving blonde white women away as trophies?
4 September, 2009 at 8:54 am
>Start where you are, with the Marine Corps height-weight charts, and then move forward to the Marine Corps Physical Fitness Test.
http://usmilitary.about.com/od/marines/l/blfitmale.htm
I’m surprised no push-ups are included.
I’m doing 40 push-ups and 40 sit-ups daily at 50 years of age; but dang this is gonna make me get in even better physical condition.
Thanks for the challenge and motivation!
4 September, 2009 at 12:21 pm
Adam,
New America ‘done’ tore your ass up.
You had me going there for a while.
BTW, I like that new term too, social hacking; I think many might think me a social hacker; and to expand the definition a bit I would suggest it can be used by someone who pretends to be your supporter and says things like “He’s a class act and a Southern Gentleman, did you know he is a VNN forum member.” Post my interview with Alex; I’m referring to Mike Jahn or something like that; I think he was pointing to my fierce posts on VNN. Many would make me look anything but a Class Act and Southern Gentleman; more like White Trash; but I’ve come to know who the real White Trash is here in Mississippi, Trent Lott, Haley Barbour, Chip Pickering, et. al., i.e., Christian Conservatives.
I’ve just got a hot temper coupled with a below average IQ but my intentions are purely honorable unlike the braying Donkey and the cart of conservatives he’s pulling.
4 September, 2009 at 2:46 pm
Anti-technology means, in so many cases, anti-reason, and anti-egoism. Some claim that the original sin is MAN OPERATING BY UNAIDED REASON.
I recall a passage from a book entitled Borderline Conditions and Pathological Narcissism- “Narcissists CANNOT STAND THE AUTONOMY OF OTHERS.” The inventor is autonomy, writ large.
4 September, 2009 at 6:25 pm
in reply to Jim Giles:
Thanks for the kind words.
I use the Corps as an absolute baseline for meritorious excellence, as – being Masculine to the Nth degree – everything is measured.
“You MIGHT have an explanation, you do NOT have an excuse!”
Now, if I was Benevolent Dictator, everyone would have to pass the Marine Corps PFT BEFORE they went to….
No, no.
Too much work to do in the REAL world.
Your second point is of seminal importance, and I appreciate the opportunity to address a critical issue for the Racially Conscious Community.
“Social hacking” is shorthand for “social network hacking.”
It operates by figuring out what a social network is, what the control points are, how they work, and what technique can be used to infiltrate and undermine them.
Stay awake, Children.
This is the stuff written in the books used by the people who allegedly trained Race Traitor Hal Turner.
The standard technique is to (1) create a “cuckoo’s egg,” a false value that LOOK like the organization’s value, and (2) implant it in the organization. Then, (3) control the resources to make sure the cuckoo’s egg becomes hatched and adopted as a Real Idea of the organization.
Take “CONservatism.”
It effectively hijacked Old Right CONservatism, using Buckley, the National Review, and control of the media, to manufacture a NEW form of Conservatism that looked just like Old Right Conservatism, with ONE exception:
Buckley’s CONservatism was explicitly pro-internationalist, and actively supported the use of military force in defense of (1) the anti-Communists, and (2) Israel.
You will note how the Jews are playing all sides against one another in this, to their advantage, and their advantage, alone.
You will see this later.
Note that Buckley insured that ALL power within the new CONservative Movement – all communications, virtually all funding – either ran through him, or a front group closely affiliated with him.
THUS, Old Right Conservatism was socially hijacked by the CONservatives, who claimed the term, and defined the term, “Conservative,” to suit the needs of themselves, and their Jewish controllers.
Another example.
Dr. Revilo P. Oliver was one of the founding members of the John Birch Society, as well as, I think (ironically) Buckley’s National Review.
He, with his depth of classical learning, realized the Conspiracy the Birchers claimed to be fighting was simply in control of the Birchers.
He realized this as – and here is where the social hijacking goes into effect – his ability to be effective was slowly, softly, neutralized – “dynamic silencing,” if you will.
He all but went made before he realized the cold, hard painful truth.
It was NOT his fault.
So, we see the power of social network hijacking with the transformation of Old Right Conservatism into Buckleyite CONservatism, and the effective gelding of Dr. Revilo Oliver a a spokesman for the Truth, and our Race.
There is a Jewish term, “chutzpah,” which has a special meaning, and the all-powerful Second Meaning is that you convince someone that the absolute opposite of the Truth is the Truth.
You have to keep them under control, for if they ever realize what has happened, AND DECIDE TO Do Something ABOUT IT, the puppies may discover how to become Wolves, and organize in packs.
Note that
AdamDorothy did not come here much until I started actively supporting Harold Covington and the Northwest Republic Analytical Model.Suddenly, Dorothy tries to throw a wall of mysterious and powerful sounding words to accomplish her primary purpose – stop us from discussing Covington, and the Northwest Republic Analytical Model.
IF, as a bonus, the cuckoo’s egg of some sort of anti-technics, anti-Mind, anti-Sovereignty model of thought that would reduce us all to primitives was adopted as a topic for serious discussion, so much the better.
THAT one fell apart, and, apparently, so did Dorothy’s ruby slippers.
That’s fine.
She’ll be back, and her little dog, too!
More to follow on this very important topic, which is also very tightly linked to the topic of this thread.
VNN”s Curt O’Brian:
You do know the goal is to have white men hunted and
destroyed while giving blonde white women away as trophies?
4 September, 2009 at 11:31 pm
in reply to Kuda Bux:
you wrote:
in reply:
I always look to the opponents of technics – technology – and ask them what the alternative is?
It ALWAYS goes back to some idyllic, Rousseuain model of social organization that didn’t work then, and won’t work now.
Such people seek to live in A Past That Never Was, at the expense of facing where they are today, which is largely a reflection of who, and what, they are, as the faced the decisions of life.
We MUST look to The Future, and we must look with clear eyes.
This takes an Adult level of responsibility.
you wrote:
in reply:
That IS an excellent point to bring up concerning
AdamDorothy.Look at the posting of
AdamDorothy over several threads, and note the same pattern we saw in high school, with the kids who had READ “Atlas Shrugged,” but did not have the emotional maturity to deal constructively with the issues dealt with in the book.Indeed – and this ties it into
AdamDorothy’s behavior, note that whenAdamDorothy is actually challenged by someone remotely competent to deal with the issues,AdamDorothy almost immediately goes into a verbal assault on the person – NOT the ideas under discussion – but the person, quickly resorting to name-calling.JUNIOR high school cafeteria behavior, that.
In short, Narcissistic Personality Disorder.
Fortunately, the Racially Conscious Community can learn from such people as
AdamDorothy…Can, and WILL.
5 September, 2009 at 3:33 am
The possibility of the destruction of the global technological system is something that scares the shit out of the Jews, and also the Jew wannabes like Mrs. Harold Covington here and her little sewing circle.
As well it should.
Carry on, ladies!
5 September, 2009 at 5:04 am
Right you are Adam.
5 September, 2009 at 6:55 am
Wrong you are, Adam.
5 September, 2009 at 6:56 am
“The possibility of the destruction of the global technological system is something that scares the shit out of the Jews, and also the Jew wannabes like Mrs. Harold Covington here and her little sewing circle.
As well it should.
Carry on, ladies!”
Adam,
After all the substance New America has presented and that’s all you can come up with for a reply? This was your opportunity to offer a counter argument. You apparently have none.
This social hacking is very effective but when you know what they are doing you seem silly for having not recognized it for what it is.
On Ayn Rand, I read The Fountainhead many years ago and enjoyed Roark but I haven’t read all of Atlas Shrugged; something about the industrialists, i.e., the productive folk, just ceasing their activities? I had a friend who recommended Rand to me and he continues to maintain her position on race, i.e., only the individual’s capacity to ‘produce’ matters not race. And ironically, he mentioned narcism recently.
Having become racial, when I now hear psychological/psychiatric jargon I immediately think Freud, another Jewish scam and racket. What about that New America?
5 September, 2009 at 2:34 pm
Jim Giles wrote, quoting
AdamDorothy:“The possibility of the destruction of the global technological system is something that scares the shit out of the Jews, and also the Jew wannabes like Mrs. Harold Covington here and her little sewing circle.
As well it should.
Carry on, ladies!”
Jim Giles replied:
in reply:
Exactly correct, and that’s why
AdamDorothy responds with an emotional response, and an emotional attack, worthy of any – ANY at all – twelfth grader who’s going through a bipolar episode.Just as well, as it provided us with yet another glorious opportunity to demonstrate when the Adults are correct, and the Children need to be treated like, well, Children.
you wrote:
in reply:
Social network hacking is VERY effective until you realize what it is, and how it works.
Then, the power of the Illusions to control the Mind fade away like mist in the bright morning sun.
This is a very useful concept to discuss, particularly in light of how easily Old Right Conservatism was “cuckoo egged” by the Jews into CONservatism, and CONservatism was “cuckoo egged” by the Jews into NEOCONservatism.
Many useful examples will suggest themselves.
Race Traitor Hal Turner and the White Nationalists, for example.
THAT would be worthy of a thread in its own right!
you wrote:
in reply:
Note that Rand’s heroes in Atlas Shrugged are Aryan, and, in many cases, damn Nordic, on top of that!
NONE of them are members of the Faithful Colored Companions!
And, the bad guys certainly seem to have names that lend themselves well to Judaism – “Wesley Mouch,” for example.
All of Rand”s supporters who support market forces over Race as a principle of social organizing confuse a means to an end, with the End – the MUCH greater end – itself.
What they mean by “market forces” is simply the ability to seek market clearing prices for good and services.
That’s pretty primitive for anything more than a foundation of a pretty primitive economy.
Rand’s supporters tend to miss what Rand understood.
Read her other works, and she was intensely aware of the collapse of the social order that created the modern economy; she was particularly critical of the public school system, which she saw a a tool for social engineers to master social indoctrination of the Children, the Racial Posterity.
Note also that Rand’s models of human behavior could ONLY exist in a world of the West, the world the White Race Created, sustained, and enhanced.
A lot of her followers have never lived anywhere else.
The people who support racial integration so strongly have never had to live next to, or work with many, of the Faithful Colored Companions.
you wrote:
in reply:
That is absolutely true.
There are sources on VNN/F that deal with this.
Equally useful are the pieces Peter Shank did on Eddie Bernays, nephew of Freud and master of Propaganda.
If I can control the Mind – the pictures you see, the words you hear – I can control you without firing a shot.
That’s how the Jews tool over America in less than a century, without firing a shot.
Social network hijacking is simply the latest tool they have.
The good news is, ONCE you are aware of this, it loses its power.
And you can begin to reclaim yours, hopefully in the fulfillment of a Racial destiny.
Have I mentioned Harold Covington, his Northwest Quarter series of books on his Northwest Republic, and the Northwest Republic itself as the Model for solving ALL of our Racial dilemmas?
I didn’t?
I’ll just do that now!
5 September, 2009 at 2:48 pm
Yes you’ve mentioned Covingtoon again & again & again & again & again & again, I should think he can trust you enough by now to finally let you out of his basement. You Stockholm syndromed little shrew.
Defeatism is acceptance of defeat without struggle. I.E. lets give up & all move to the North West.
5 September, 2009 at 3:18 pm
“If I can control the Mind – the pictures you see, the words you hear – I can control you without firing a shot.
That’s how the Jews tool over America in less than a century, without firing a shot.”
As long as the Jews could hide behind their shield of “anti-semitism” they were pretty well protected from mainstream criticism, but now, with all the Jewish sounding names being linked to the economic meltdown, the financial scandals and the constant drumbeat calling for war against Iran, the shield no longer protects them as well. Once the “Jewish problem” begins to appear on the collective consciousness of White America, the cat will be out of the bag. As everyone here knows, once you develop a sense of Jewdar, things become startlingly clear and the pattern gradually takes form, never to leave our awareness, again.
5 September, 2009 at 3:22 pm
What does Patrick J. Buchanan know?
Whatever other observations he makes and however valid they are, a man who writes the sentence below is doing his part to keep a certain very conventional and very false story alive and well:
“…Hitler wanted to end the war in 1940, almost two years before the trains began to roll to the camps.”
(http://buchanan.org/blog/did-hitler-want-war-2068)
His reader is assumed to “know” what then happened in the camps.
How does that reader “know”? He or she “knows” from the accounts of “witnesses” like Rudolf Vrba, Kurt Gerstein, Filip Müller, Elie Wiesel and “Binjamin Wilkomirski”. That is, from sheer nonsense.
Perhaps he or she has even visited Auschwitz I and seen the “gas chamber” there from the inside (horror of horrors!) and, in ignorance of the admission by the Auschwitz museum authorities themselves that it is a fake, firmly believes it to have been an instrument of mass murder and gets a lump in the throat when recalling it.
Then there’s the “knowledge” received from the famous April and May 1945 photos of all the dead camp inmates, whom the Buchanan reader will “know” to have been killed, doubtless by gas.
This amounts of course to completely false “knowledge” which the average member of the public, having little time to seek information to the contrary, may be fully excused for respecting.
Patrick J. Buchanan has no such excuse and, notwithstanding the accuracy of his comments on the 1939-1940 campaigns, their background etc., is knowingly peddling a monstrous, deadly lie. One far more deadly than the tale of Germany as that era’s warmonger.
Or am I terribly wrong and has he not read, for example, any writings like the piece at
?
(about 30 pages long, banned from distribution in the author’s country, France).
Can someone out there tell me? Is anyone in touch with him, or in touch with someone who is?
Thank you for your attention.
Guillaume Nichols
Trieste
5 September, 2009 at 3:24 pm
? above = http://robertfaurisson.blogspot.com/1998/12/introduction-to-ecrits-revisionnistes.html
5 September, 2009 at 3:26 pm
Vaultner,
So you don’t like Harold Covington or his Northwest idea but what do you think about social network hacking?
5 September, 2009 at 3:38 pm
in reply to Vaultner:
you wrote:
in reply:
The topic of this thread is strategy, which I break down into Grand Strategy, and Local Strategy.
The LACK of a positive Grand Strategy is part and parcel of why the impulse of White Nationalism never made headway, when and where it should not only have made headway, but prevailed.
Far too often, the people who best represent the White Nationalist demographic accepted – blindly – the Terms and Definitions of themselves offer to them by the Jews, who controlled the words they read, and the pictures they saw, in every social realm from public school, to the Armed Forces, to the movies, to television.
At best, with few exceptions – Rockwell, Pierce, Oliver – they defined themselves in terms of what they were opposed to, and vaguely if at all, in terms of what they were FOR.
Positive energy prevails, and all of ours went into the wrong direction.
So, the Jews in control of the propasphere simply created an Enemy of the Week for them – the Civil Rights Movement, the United Nations, the New World Order, whatever – and our guys fell for it like a ton of bricks.
They were never on the offensive against the CORRECT Enemy, the ONE Guiding and Controlling Hand that formed these Shadows for us to box, and tire ourselves out, and breaking our hands hitting the intangibles that only had life because WE gave them OURS.
Covington’s Northwest Republic Analytical Models cuts through all of the mist like the morning sun by defining every social action in light of the primary organizing principle of the Northwest Republic:
PROTECT THE RACE!
That is IT, First, Foremost, Forever, in terms of an organizing principle.
It has worked extremely well for the Jews, and it will – repeat, WILL – work even better, for us.
All we have to do it try it, for a welcome change.
By no stretch o the imagination and I proposing a policy of “defeatism.”
No.
The America that sent men (WHITE MEN!) to the Moon, and brought them back, has BEEN defeated.
It has national debts that can never be repaid, or even have the interest paid down on them – national indentured servitude in all but name.
It has cities that largely resemble Dresden after the firebombing.
It has entire communities where the street signs are in Spanish.
It has taken longer to win a “war” in Iraq than our Ancestors took to win a TWO FRONT, international war, in World War II.
That the Iraq – and AfPak – Wars accrue only and directly to the benefit of Israel is a fact that is never mentioned, and, as long as the host remains the servant of the parasite, we will be there forever.
You think not?
Look at the size of the American/NATO (same thing, really) bases in Germany; these, SIXTY years after Hitler was defeated.
Like the Iraq War, and the AfPak War, this only has one primary reason to be, and that is, “It’s Good For Jews.”
Tell ME where you would rather spend the rest of your life, and the lives of your heirs, your children, your grandhildren, your Posterity:
Detroit, Chicago, South Central?
OR
A Land defined by Linder, most astutely and most accurately, as follows:
Take ANY State in the Union, no matter how forsaken it seems, no matter how bad the weather, the terrain, the resources, whatever. Give us our Constitutionally guaranteed RIGHT of Free Association, and make that State “WHITES ONLY.”
Then, just stand back as the greatest land rush in American history runs you over as the people who made America a great nation leave the dying carcass, and leave the dead, to the dying.
Come back in fifty years and watch as Mankind’s first starship launches from OUR RACIAL HOMELAND.
In the words of Harold Covington:
“I am not asking you to run away from anything.
I am asking you to run TOWARDS a better future, for you and your children, than you can dare imagine.”
Now, a better world for your grandchildren, where they can leave the keys in the car and the doors to the house unlocked at night, where they can go to schools that are devoted to each of them achieving their own unique Destinies…
Now, THAT is an end at the foundation of our Grand Strategy – the Northwest Republic.
If you have any ideas that are any better, as they say in MMA, “Bring it, or step back!”
5 September, 2009 at 4:07 pm
I believe that Rand was under jew censorhip just as much as anyone else. By that I mean, she was NOT allowed to speak her mind. I will provide some excerpts from her 1963 article Racism, which is pure PC. I think that some jew “suggested” that she write the article, if she wanted to continue being published.
Then I will submit some excerpts from The Journals of Ayn Rand, which WERE NOT INTENDED TO BE PUBLISHED. Leonard Peikoff published them anyway. As they were notes, they probably show Rand’s actual views, which are quite congenial to us.
excerpts from
“Racism”
by Ayn Rand
(An article published in the September, 1963 issue of The Objectivist Newsletter
and included as a chapter in the book, The Virtue of Selfishness )
_____
“Racism is the lowest, most crudely primitive form of collectivism. It is the notion of ascribing moral, social or political significance to a man’s genetic lineage — the notion that a man’s intellectual and characterological traits are produced and transmitted by his internal body chemistry. Which means, in practice, that a man is to be judged, not by his own character and actions, but by the characters and actions of a collective of ancestors.
Racism claims that the content of a man’s mind (not his cognitive apparatus, but its content) is inherited; that a man’s convictions, values and character are determined before he is born, by physical forces beyond his control. This is the caveman’s version of the doctrine of innate ideas — or of inherited knowledge — which has been thoroughly refuted by philosophy and science. Racism is a doctrine of, by and for brutes. It is a barnyard or stock-farm version of collectivism, appropriate to a mentality that differentiates between various breeds of anmials, but not between animals and men.
Like every form of determinism, racism invalidates the specific attribute which distinguishes man from all other living species: his rational faculty. Racism negates two aspects of man’s life: reason and choice, or mind and morality, replacing them with chemical predestination.
The respectable family that supports worthless relatives or covers up their crimes in order to “protect the family name” (as if the moral stature of one man could be damaged by the actions of another) — the bum who boasts that his great-grandfather was an empire-builder, or the small-town spinster who boasts that her maternal great-uncle was a state senator and her third-cousin gave a concert at Carnegie Hall (as if the achievements of one man could rub off on the mediocrity of another) — the parents who search genealogical trees in order to evaluate their prospective sons-in-law — the celebrity who starts his autobiography with a detailed account of his family history — all these are samples of racism, the atavvistic manifestations of a doctrine whose full expression is the tribal warfare of prehistorical savages, the wholesale slaughter of Nazi Germany, the atrocities of today’s so-called “newly-emerging nations.”
The theory that holds “good blood” and “bad blood” as a moral-intellectual criterion, can lead to nothing but torrents of blood in practice. Brute force is the only avenue of action open to men who regard themselves as mindless aggregates of chemicals.
Modern racists attempt to prove the superiority or inferiority of a given race by the historical achievements of some of its members. The frequent historical spectacle of a great innovator who, in his lifetime, is jeered, denounced, obstructed, persecuted by his countrymen, and then, a few years after his death, is enshrined in a national monument and hailed as a proof of greatness of the German (or French or Italian or Cambodian) race — is as revolting a spectacle of collectivist expropriation, perpetrated by racists, as any expropriation of material wealth perpetrated by communists.
Just as there is no such thing as a collective or racial mind, so there is no such thing as a collective or racial achievement. There are only individual minds and individual achievements — and a culture is not the anonymous product of undifferentiated masses, but the sum of the intellectual achievements of individual men.
Even if it were proved — which it is not — that the incidence of men of potentially superior brain power is greater among the members of certain races than among the members of others, it would still tell us nothing about any given individual and it would be irrelevant to one’s judgment of him. A genius is a genius, regardless of the number of morons who belong to the same race — and a moron is a moron, regardless of the number of geniuses who share his racial origin. It is hard to say which is the more outrageous injustice: the claim of Southern racists that a Negro genius should be treated as inferior because his race has “produced” some brutes — or the claim of a German brute to the status of a superior because his race has “produced” Goethe, Schiller and Brahms.”
Now, from page 466 of Journals of Ayn Rand (paperback):
“Man’s intellectual capacities have always been so unequal that to the thinkers the majority of their brothers have probably always seemed subhuman. And some men may still be, for all the evidence of rationality, or lack of, they give. We may still be in evolution, as a species, and living side by side with some “missing links.”
. . .
“. . .what about those who are prehuman, or near enough to it, and incapable of rationality?. . .”
. . .
It these pre-humans are incapable of rational thinking, and therefore they need an enslaved, controlled, regimented “protective” society in order to survive- we cannot survive in such a society. BY DEFINITION WE ARE THEN TWO DIFFERENT SPECIES. . . .WE WILL NOT BE SACRIFICED TO THEM. . .” (April 1946)
Again, not intended for publication. Now, we know her actual thoughts.
5 September, 2009 at 5:19 pm
Jim Giles Says:
“The possibility of the destruction of the global technological system is something that scares the shit out of the Jews, and also the Jew wannabes like Mrs. Harold Covington here and her little sewing circle.
As well it should.
Carry on, ladies!”
Adam,
After all the substance New America has presented and that’s all you can come up with for a reply?
“Substance” is the polite word for it.
This was your opportunity to offer a counter argument. You apparently have none.
Sorry, but I find her bombast tedious and stopped actually reading it quite a while ago. About the most I do any more is skim, chuckle, and move on to the next comment. Her constant plugging of her dear husband Harold is also very obnoxious, even though I have to admit that it’s good to see a woman standing by her man nowadays. Since you claim to have sifted through the enormous steaming piles of “substance” she keeps dropping into these pages, and to have found a few precious kernels, maybe you can say what they are. However, your claim is insincere, isn’t it? The truth is, all of you together can’t refute a word I’ve said, or you would have already done so.
This social hacking is very effective but when you know what they are doing you seem silly for having not recognized it for what it is.
Jim, what seems silly is your crush on Mrs. Covington. Don’t you know she’s already married to a Jew, the well-known rabbi Harold Covington? But on second thought maybe that’s why you find her so attractive, eh? That would fit your profile as a white Jew. The key to understanding the mentality of the white Jew is that he wants what the Jew has. Even if it’s worthless, if a Jew has it, he wants it.
On Ayn Rand, I read The Fountainhead many years ago and enjoyed Roark but I haven’t read all of Atlas Shrugged; something about the industrialists, i.e., the productive folk, just ceasing their activities? I had a friend who recommended Rand to me and he continues to maintain her position on race, i.e., only the individual’s capacity to ‘produce’ matters not race. And ironically, he mentioned narcism recently.
It’s fitting that someone with such deep-seated admiration of the Jews should also like the writing of the Jewess Ayn Rand. As we’ve seen, all the Jew wannabes love her.
Having become racial, when I now hear psychological/psychiatric jargon I immediately think Freud, another Jewish scam and racket. What about that New America?
Attempting to psychologize an opponent and depict him as crazy is a favorite tactic of Jews and their imitators. When wannabe Jews have no response based in evidence or logic, out come the smears. Yes, it’s very childish, but what can we expect other than that they would try to act like Jews? Just as Mrs. Covington has devoted her life to promoting her husband writings on this website, acting like a Jew is the entire focus of the Jew wannabe’s meager existence.
5 September, 2009 at 6:29 pm
Adam,
I’m no longer a fan of Ayn Rand.
You have more intellect than me but way less than New America. I don’t mean to be gratuitously offensive. No one has a panacea but so far New America has bested you in arguing his cause. I’ve heard Harold Covington’s name mentioned many times in the past but I don’t really know who he is; I’ll try to interview him in the future.
I do not understand your implications in regard to me personally. Speak more plainly and maybe I can respond. I am not clear on what your idea is either but so far I am not persuaded. It does sound like social hacking to me. The Northwest Republic concept is also fuzzy to me but if I could I would move to the Northwest. I’m surrounded by niggers. Literally.
You engage in much more ad hominem than New America. New America writes with depth and a sense of history. There is no comparison between his composition and yours; if this were a real UFC fight I believe you would have long ago tapped out.
BTW, can someone explain the following audio:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_9yrnleGpw
Where and when did Hal Turner make that audio?
And this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5msOF3jWl00
It sounds like those two blond girls; is it? I hope those girls aren’t squandering their talent and potential on Hal Turner.
For years, I’ve thought Hal Turner an idiot.
6 September, 2009 at 1:13 am
in repoy to Kuda Bux:
Thanks for the heads-up on how Rand REALLY felt.
How she REALLY felt is entirely consistent with her philosophy.
After all, only one Race – and she is also describing what Yockey called “the vertical component of Race” – actually evolves, culturally, and economically.
And Rand – escapee from the Jew-controlled Asian “Soviet Union,” knew all too well what was truly valued.
Again, ALL of her heroes and heroines – including Dagny Taggart! – were certainly Aryans, and all were at least Northern European, if not, like Ragnar Danneskjold – Nordic!
blockquote cite=”">VNN’s Curt O’Brian:
You do know the goal is to have white men hunted and destroyed while giving blonde white women away as trophies?
6 September, 2009 at 1:37 am
in reply to Jim Giles:
Thanks for the kind words.
Covington’s primary website is:
http://www.northwestfront.org/blog/
His other websites are:
http://downwithjugears.blogspot.com/
http://www.northwestfront.org/
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Northwest-Imperative/100406877514
And, as for “Hal Turner being an idiot,” well, no argument there.
However, I think Turner might be almost perfect as an textbook example of social network hacking.
I think that will be a major issue I will start to address in this thread, but is certainly worthy of a thread in its own right.
One key principle to keep in mind is to keep your excellent point in mind – “Hal Turner is an idiot” – and balance THAT point with the idea that he singlehandedly might have done enormous damage to any sort of White Nationalist organizing efforts.
This is of critical importance.
It would seem that so many things STARTED to happen, but never really moved forward, and Hal Turner just might have been closely involved with controlling many aspects of the situation.
I think of all Yankee Jim did in making the rally in Kingston happen, and how it seems to have had less of an impact than I might have expected.
I think of all Alex Linder and other remarkable people did to try to make the Channon Christian and Chris Newsome Memorial Event in Knoxville happen, and, again, so many things seem to have fallen short of the mark.
There is a phrase, “monkeywrenching,” used to describe when suddenly, mysteriously, plans fail to come to fruition, and no one point of failure can be identified.
I don’t think this is by accident, and I’m not blaming any one person.
Incidentally, Harold Covington wrote of a person he knew, but perhaps not by his real name, who infiltrated all manner of nascent White Nationalist organizations with amazing ease.
In a matter of weeks they had been neutralized by dangerously provincial infighting, and all but formally dissolved.
Social network hijacking, and, if that doesn’t work, combine it with monkeywrenching.
The Good News in this?
The Ideas we propose, and Ideals we attempt to exemplify, are so damn powerful, “someone” is going to extraordinary lengths to strangle this baby in the cradle.
Now, THAT is part of SOMEONE’S “Grand Strategy.”
This is a topic that is not going away, and deserves our closest possible attention, if only to understand how easily we have been neutralized at all points.
Again, the words of Alex Linder:
“Absolutely NO ONE in this so-called Movement is to be trusted absolutely.”
Ask Artie Wheeler, for starters.
6 September, 2009 at 5:25 am
Jim Giles said:
Vaultner,
So you don’t like Harold Covington or his Northwest idea but what do you think about social network hacking?
Quote from jewboyamerikwa:
“Indeed, it ALMOST sounds like social hacking, where someone claiming to be sympathetic turns around and acts in a manner that neutralizes the forward motion of the organization.”
If there was ever a way to detract from forward movement obscure references to absurd text that no one is interested in would be an excellent way to achieve that goal.
Harold Covingtoon Harold Covingtoon Harold Covingtoon. It really gets old after awhile. The notion that the U.S. government would ever allow us to migrate anywhere without having 2 or 3 muds to every White is absurd. Once again I have to explain this, as soon as you get enough people there to write a new Constitution & declare independence the government is going to send more crazy jar heads with all of the shit our tax dollars have been buying over the last 50 years, like Apache helicopters, A10 Warthogs, C130 gun ships & they’re going to blow jewboyamerikwa right off his horse back out into the middle of the Pacific so fast he won’t even have time to shout out Covingtoon one more time.
In all honesty it sounds like an excellent jew hatched conspiracy to set us up for final destruction.
Now I’m not saying no one should move to the North West it’s beautiful country & far less inundated with niggers. But secession is not going to be allowed by our government ever trust me; it’s a pipe dream. Once again I put forth the possibility of our jewboyamerikwa as an agent provocateur.
6 September, 2009 at 6:06 am
I don’t think secession would ever work; I would want to move only to improve my neighbors; but I’m reconciled to making a stand right where I’m at.
This thread is suppose to be about strategy, fair enough; the best strategy I know of is political warre, old fashioned strictly legal political campaigns mounted by someone with real talent.
And I’m talking real talent too which I do not possess; I was reminded of how profound our challenge is again yesterday; a relative who is retired from the telephone company was fishing at my pond yesterday with her husband; I commented about her mother’s black neighbors and how she should consider keeping an eye on the neighborhood and mentioned ‘tipping point’ where the entire neighborhood goes black; she was indignant at my suggestion telling me that they were good blacks and much better than the drug using whites who once lived there and went on to tell me about her nigger electrical engineering neighbor in Birmingham; I laughed in response and said it was all given to him and that I wouldn’t want to go anywhere near anything he had to do with and that she had grown up in the corporate world where blacks and women are given what they have because they are black or female; that really made her mad and she told me that she hadn’t been given a damn thing, that she had worked for it and that her nigger electrical engineer was a hard worker and good friend. This black and white female alliance is a major problem.
Those white drug users were probably males too; as I awoke this morning I had a feeling of disgust about the whole arrangement. And if that weren’t bad enough, I’ve got a brother doing the work of God and Jesus and traveling to foreign lands to help blacks.
Most people don’t know the goal is to have white men hunted and destroyed while giving blonde white women away as trophies. But it seems very clear to me.
Becoming independent and self-sufficient food wise and otherwise is my strategy.
The problem I have with Rand is that she ain’t no William Pierce and I don’t like needing a translator to explain what she really stood for in unpublished footnotes or otherwise; maybe she wasn’t a bad person but given the issue is one of survival I don’t believe much time should be wasted on her ideas today.
6 September, 2009 at 6:53 am
I believe real progress will allude us until such time as there is more fear and anger in the white community. One would think conditions on the ground would be sufficient but they clearly are not sufficient yet. However, there is no reason to believe things will stay the same or get better; to the contrary, there is overwhelming reason to believe things will get much worse rather quickly from here on out.
My best sober analysis of my environs tells me there is not even a One (1) Percent Hard Core Nucleus (an absolutely essential element) to work with even if the candidate were ‘talented.’
Robert Frenz was right when he said it’s premature to attempt political campaigns.
So I’m going to work on media and farming instead.
I am still interested in strategy however and so I look forward to an interview with Harold Covington about the Northwest Republic. Adam, do you have a spokesperson for your cause that could be interviewed? I doubt it but I was just be courteous in asking.
6 September, 2009 at 8:14 am
This keep getting caught in the filters, I guess because of too many urls.
So, we’ll change it.
In partial reply to Jim Giles:
http://www.northwestfront DOT org/blog/
That’s Harold Covington’s main blog.
http://downwithjugears DOT blogspot DOT com/
This was Harold Covington’s main blog.
http://nwhomeland DOT blogspot DOT com/
Harold Covington’s Northwest Homeland – lays out a lot of it.
http://www.northwestfront DOT org/
Another Harold Covington blog – remember the unique role of the political party in Covington’s model.
http://www.facebook DOT com/pages/Northwest-Imperative/100406877514
Facebook – threads being started.
More to follow.
6 September, 2009 at 10:30 am
New America,
You are hitting on some real good stuff; some how I over looked your next to last post. Outstanding! Monkey wrenching and social hacking, baby in cradle, etc. All Outstanding!
“Absolutely NO ONE in this so-called Movement is to be trusted absolutely.”
I think of myself, obscure but for a tiny few who know of my campaigns, arrests, prosecutions, etc. Funny how things work out; all of a sudden I have an urge to take calls like the idiot Hal Turner; the thing that gives me the most confidence is the confidence better men than me have in me. We’ll see; I’m more tenacious than most because I have to be in order to make up for lack of talent and self destructive tendencies.
Ultimately though it ought not be so very difficult to recruit that 1 percent hard core nucleus; I’ve been around leaders before who I admired and I always felt that I had that quality, that persona that causes people to want to follow you but these were sports leaders primarily; while I do have my flaws I don’t think they are the problem; I believe the people are at fault, i.e., financial greed and relative comfort and lack of fear.
However, when only idiots get all the attention and fail miserably at representing white interests and being charged with all sorts of crimes you know it all ain’t coincidence; the dang police, prosecutors, judges and establishment are out to get you; make no mistake about that.
And you are very right, inspirationally so, that such concerted efforts by those in power indicates how potent our Racial Campaign is. And I think we will prevail, when the uncorrupted followers show up ready for service; then you’ll have bona fide uncorrupted leaders stepping up and taking charge. I challenged Zinni and Fallon; I wonder if wind of the challenge ever got their attention?
6 September, 2009 at 1:00 pm
MacDonald: “The fact that this White anger will probably benefit Republicans scarcely gives one confidence that it will have a positive long term result.”
Permanent URL: http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/articles/MacDonald-Kennedy.html
6 September, 2009 at 1:11 pm
in reply to jc:
It’s already at the top of this page!
This DOES point out the need for an Open Thread, sticked at the top – there’s a sticky for WordPress – for stuff that we see that Socrates might miss.
Also, a hard link at the very top – in BOLD CAPS – to the OPENED “Our Cause” section of VNN/F let’s us give a great overview to those who are ready to hear the truth.
6 September, 2009 at 1:15 pm
Incidentally, the social networking hacking of White Nationalism might make an excellent topic for a thread.
You DO notice that
AdamDorothy and his man Vaultner manage to keep shifting away from this?Can you think of a better social network than a new nation, a new country, a Racial Homeland built on the principle that the highest law can be stated in three words?
PRESERVE THE RACE!
6 September, 2009 at 3:08 pm
in partial reply to Jim Giles:
you wrote:
in reply:
The incredible lengths those in power have gone to literally kill this child – the Idea of White Nationalism, and Organization around that Idea – is literally breathtaking.
I have been thinking about this for the last little while, particularly in light of what Race Traitor Hal Turner seems to have claimed.
Social network hijacking is a subtle, and, as we have seen, very effective program.
Monkeywrenching the network FROM WITHIN – while seeming to be the Great Leader who is Making Things Happen – is perhaps the most effective way of neutralizing us.
With this, the baby is killed in the cradle.
We NEVER get to a critical mass of political effectiveness.
I’ve been thinking about this in light of the experiences of the late Dr. Revilo Oliver, and I think he though he was going mad.
EVERYONE above him in the John Birch Society spoke the right words, and made the correct gestures.
Yet, he was systematically neutralized, and “dynamically silenced,” to the point that I suspect he started to believe he was going insane.
The answer to this, in light of social network theory, is that hijacking, and a very little bit of monkeywrenching, was enough to stop a man who trusted the competence, and kindness, of the strangers he worked with at the John Birch Society.
AS I LOOK BACK OVER THE ATTEMPTS AT FORMING A DE FACTO WHITE NATIONALIST POLITICAL RESPONSE, I keep seeing the same pattern – things go along just swimmingly, and then, suddenly, it’s like someone hits the dimmer switch on a lamp, and is slowly turning the Light off.
We have been played for fools, and it’s time that we won’t be fooled again.
As I review our experiences with Hal Turner – offering server time to VNN, offering radio time to Peter Shank – suddenly, I just see an entirely different world.
It’s based on this:
IF the Idea ever hits the White Race – the Dispossessed Majority – that they can organize along political lines, with intelligent solutions to the range of social problems, then the Power we have sacrificed bit by bit shall slowly return to us.
And we can Do Something with that.
Can, and will!
Jim, I think we are ON to something here!
Such extraordinary lengths to stop what looks like a rag-tag bunch of economically challenged people from discussing and BEGINNING to act on the One Thing that can make all of the difference.
They must be just terrified.
Look at LOOK Magazine from the Forties and fifties in the GOOGLE Archive, and look at Los Angeles, and Detroit THEN.
Look at them NOW.
THAT is what happens to ANY social order when the White Race, Bearer of Civilization, leaves.
Extend that to American political systems…
NOW, I think, we can see where the impulse for secession is coming from…
It’s OUR People – look at the protesters – who KNOW, somehow, that The System has rigged The Game AGAINST them at every turn.
Suddenly, VNN just became much more important.
Time to send some money to Alex, and we should ALL do that.
While we can….
6 September, 2009 at 10:12 pm
Harold Covington was just recently interviewed by Prothink radio, a couple of days ago. Have you ever read his books, Jim? I know you can get them online for free in PDF format.
7 September, 2009 at 12:52 am
jewboyamerikwa said:
“Incidentally, the social networking hacking of White Nationalism might make an excellent topic for a thread.
You DO notice that Adam Dorothy and his man Vaultner manage to keep shifting away from this?”
Yes the topic of this thread is “STRATEGY” not Covingtoon speaks through his little hand puppet again. Has anyone noticed this, well I guess you get your PB&J in Covingtoons basement again.
The topic is certainly not “Social network hacking” I’ve never seen anyone try to take over a topic with so much enthusiasm as you jew boy.
As far as the real Women on this thread appreciating Covingtoons North West theory I would put forth the notion that women in general like change in any form. Perhaps this is why jewboyamerikwa A.K.A. Ms. Covingtoon likes his fiction novel so much.
7 September, 2009 at 1:17 pm
in thoughtful reply to Vaultner:
Rather than copy your entire post, I’ll take the one relevant sentence, and address it directly.
in reply:
I don’t know what your definition of “strategy” is, and how you distinguish it from “tactics,” but all can agree that “strategy” is a component of “grand strategy.”
There is no more grand strategy than the intentional development of a Racial Homeland.
THIS is what held the Jews together for millenia, and all else – ALL they say and do – is subservient to the creation and expansion of Israel – by which THEY mean not just the land in Palestine, but Jewish control of all governments, and all of the people of the Earth.
So, when I am doing the small things I CAN do – starting where I am, rather than waiting for someone else to do my duty – I do all that I do in the context that one day, my Posterity will live in THEIR Racial Homeland, where they will walk TOWARD the stars, so THEIR Posterity will walk AMONG THE STARS.
7 September, 2009 at 1:32 pm
in further reply yo Vaultner:
I am reposting part of a post I made in this thread.
I think it addresses issues of strategy, and, in doing so, I note that you are trying to shift the subject back to Harold Covington and the Northwest Republic, always in a tone of mockery worthy of someone raised in the culture of critique.
You did so, in this thread, I think, to avoid the deeper issue I raised, which is how and why we have been so effectively neutralized at all points.
Above, I wrote:
Further commenting:
It now seem obvious that THIS IS THE ISSUE that has been glaringly obvious, and that no one even conceived until
AdamDorothy came here, and put such great effort into trying to destroy ANY discussion of Harold Covington and the Northwest Republic, and the Northwest Republic Analytical Model.Especially clever, he installed his own “cuckoo’s egg” into the discussions, quoting dead French philosophers to make some sort of meaningless point.
He then went on the personal attack, and this is a trick the Jews have long mastered, by forcing you to justify yourself to them.
Of course, they never justify themselves to you.
ALWAYS ON THE ATTACK, one way, or another, in one medium, or another.
Of course,
AdamDorothy didn’t pay us much attention until the discussion shifted to The ANSWER – a grand strategy, indeed – as defined by Harold Covington.And,
AdamDorothy?No greater compliment can be paid, and we are grateful for you showing your true colors.
Now, we’ll have the chance to show you ours.
More to follow.
7 September, 2009 at 1:52 pm
jewboyamerikwa,
Covington is bullshit & if you’re going to continue to taut him as some grand savior or guiding light most here will realize you for what you are. I’ve known die hard bible thumpers who’d quote scripture or “God says” etc. less than your demented devotion to a fictional novel like your North West Republic.
It only took the kikes 2,000 years to wile their way back into the Holy Land with lies & deceit. We could get back where we belong in less than 50 with the truth. We don’t have to give up 3/4 of our country to get our rightful place.
You said:
“I think it addresses issues of strategy, and, in doing so, I note that you are trying to shift the subject back to Harold Covington and the Northwest Republic, always in a tone of mockery worthy of someone raised in the culture of critique.”
I don’t think you even read your own posts probably one in fifteen is without a reference to Covingtoon.
I don’t know how to explain it anymore the “North West Republic” is a suicidal pipe dream, & I think you’re nuts. I try not to read your posts for this reason.
7 September, 2009 at 3:15 pm
in reply to Vaultner:
you wrote:
in reply:
I am not holding Harold Covington out as a “grand savior.”
I am holding out his IDEAS as the best we have, by far.
I await anyone who has a better alternative that is based in Reality.
Example to follow.
you wrote:
in reply:
Example to follow.
I will make this easy for you.
You DO know that the recent race for the Presidency of Mexico began – the first formal day of electioneering – with ALL of the candidates having hteir “kick-offs” in Los Angeles.
That’s “Los Angeles,” as in “Alta California.”
So, Il’ll make it even easier.
You want to “take America back,” or some such folly.
America -as you knew it – is GONE!
SO, I’ll make this easy for you.
YOU go to any block – just one block, Hell, just one street corner – in, say, South Central Los Angeles.
Stand there and tell one and all that YOU, yes, YOU! – are going to take this street corner back for “America, and the White Race!”
Make damn sure your Blue Cross is paid up, and you’ve got 911 on your speed dial.
The demographic destiny of what America has become, and it is written in Spanglish, with bits of Ebonics here and there.
Let’s leave the dead, with the dying.
Let’s offer our Posterity something better.
“Honor, Discipline, and the Stars.”
You said:
I think it addresses issues of strategy, and, in doing so, I note that you are trying to shift the subject back to Harold Covington and the Northwest Republic, always in a tone of mockery worthy of someone raised in the culture of critique.”
in reply:
I am tired of everyone describing what is wrong, and no one – except Harold Covington – describing a TOTAL Solution to the problem.
The Northwest Republic Analytical Model offers a comprehensive solution – OUR Solution – on OUR Terms.
We don’t look back to an America that never was, or to an NSDAP Germany that we identify with only in terms of uniforms and slogans.
We look FORWARD, to the further enhancement of the Culture that CREATED those Forms, to meet the needs of the Cultural Moment for THAT Place, and THAT Time, for OUR Race, in OUR Time.
you wrote:
in reply:
You seem to reply to my posts at every opportunity.
You must read them.
Far better to read “A Distant Thunder,” by Harold Covington.
“The Brigade” is available for free download.
What kind of world are YOU trying to Create for YOUR Posterity?
Mine is better – much damn better – thanks to Harold Covington.
8 September, 2009 at 7:32 am
Not one to repeat myself however;
Once again I have to explain this, as soon as you get enough people there to write a new Constitution & declare independence the government is going to send more crazy jar heads with all of the shit our tax dollars have been buying over the last 50 years, like Apache helicopters, A10 Warthogs, C130 gun ships & they’re going to blow jewboyamerikwa right off his horse back out into the middle of the Pacific so fast he won’t even have time to shout out Covingtoon one more time.
Does that make any sense to you yet?
8 September, 2009 at 8:53 am
In regard to the future white North American state, you have the issue of one (1) defining its borders and two (2) how to effect its borders. As to the former, I’ve seen no better ‘matured’ white North American state than described here: http://www.faem.com/maguire/arcadia.htm. And I still look forward to interviewing Mr. Covington in hopes that he will explain his ideas but quite honestly I will be attempting to recruit him to adopting Arcadia instead. As to the latter, well, that’s why I like the discussion here about Social Network Hacking, Money Wrenching, etc. We have to come up with the means first to achieve the end. ZOG has got us whipped for the time being. If we can develop effective tactics, i.e., effective political strategies, e.g., mobile signs, recruiting candidates, etc. then we can debate the grand strategy; otoh, the grand strategy probably needs to be ‘fully matured’ so as to attract people like Pat Buchanan who I cannot bring myself to fully believe is the enemy; he is simply flawed as am I as are all of you and everyone; no one is perfect; just understand he has his limitations as do we all; put together a White Political Juggernaut and he and lots more will come around; if they don’t then they can live outside Arcadia beyond our White Nation.
We need new White leaders; there is no reason to believe they aren’t there. One thing about True Leaders and they are practically invisible in today’s world is that they are forward moving and don’t have a whine in their voice; they are masculine bulls; they inspire awe and they ultimately run over and kill whoever gets in the way of their survival, e.g., a stallion protecting his herd of mares in the wild. The girly men who occupy leadership positions today, in name only, will not last; there is a shallowness to them that is perceptible even by those who cannot tell the ground from the sky, i.e., dimwits like me.
BTW, my dang Billy Goat who is about 6 months old and ways probably 120 pounds is fearless; he will butt my 900 pound cows; he is headed towards 300 pounds I’m told; got to get to building him his own segregated area.
Here’s a challenge to all you True Bulls out there, run for public office as a Pro-White Anti-Zionist candidate; if you don’t want to take on that challenge because you have all sorts of excuses, e.g., fear of arrest and prosecution, loss of job, loss of friends and family, i.e., loss of the comfort you now currently enjoy, that’s fine; just recognize you ain’t no True Bull; and I disagree with Alex that talent is required; what’s required is Honor and Courage!
8 September, 2009 at 9:33 am
Another point, David Duke is no better than Pat Buchanan! When I first sought public office as a Racial Candidate I asked Dr. Duck for an endorsement over the telephone from where he was at in Russia. He turned me down because he felt if he endorsed me and I did poorly it would hurt his reputation, money flow aka Paytriotism; conversely, Patsy is no better than David Duke because he ‘don’t wanna’ give up his celebrity status on income he garners from the televitz.
Hell son, from my vantage point, I did it better than anyone to date; dynamic silencing; well that was how I was treated here in ole Misisip. But back to the original point, Patsy nor Duck endorsed me.
Tell me again how many studs we’ve got in the field now running for public office? Zilch as far as I know; that’s pathetic and will not stand.
8 September, 2009 at 1:24 pm
I’ve had a rew buck goats around, in my time- mostly French Alpines. Here’s what I learned about/fromthem:
1. From my non-goat perspective, they stink and their stink sticks to lumber and everything that comes into contact with them including their handlers and other goats. Big time. They piss all over themselves, apparently for the perfume value, with no concern for what non-bucks, much less their handlers, think of them.
2. Mature famale goats absolutely adore them and, of course, are receptive to their advances, leading to offspring.
8 September, 2009 at 3:51 pm
-jc Says:
I’ve had a rew buck goats around, in my time- mostly French Alpines. Here’s what I learned about/fromthem:
1. From my non-goat perspective, they stink and their stink sticks to lumber and everything that comes into contact with them including their handlers and other goats. Big time. They piss all over themselves, apparently for the perfume value, with no concern for what non-bucks, much less their handlers, think of them.
2. Mature famale goats absolutely adore them and, of course, are receptive to their advances, leading to offspring.
Big difference between goats and people. In a town I lived in years ago, there was a homeless white crazy guy. I’d see see him walking around from time to time, but you’d smell this guy WAY before you’d see him, literally from a block away if you were downwind. He’d never drop his pants to either piss or shit, you see, and the smell was overpowering. As a bonus, grime was caked all over his face and hands. The clothes he wore were black with filth. But if you even looked at him, he’d get very belligerent and try to provoke a fight. Of course, no one ever wanted to get down and rassle with such a human stink bomb, so he “won” every time without fighting. In his mind, making people decline to fight him is what proved he was a man. He was proving his dominance.
He kinda reminds me of some people on this site.
I don’t know if he had much success with the ladies.
8 September, 2009 at 6:23 pm
-jc, you remind me of an old farmer I once new; what you say sounds about right. I’ve been warned about the stink of Billy Goats. And Sherlock is starting to smell a bit; but his spirit and impregnating capabilities make it okay with me; I’ve got 9 hounds so a little stink ain’t gonna make a big dent in the environs at Giles Shire.
And Adam, I’ve seen and smelt numerous homeless people as you describe, myself; none ever attempted to provoke a fight with me or anyone else; they always seemed in a daze of sorts rummaging about aimlessly, harmless except for the foul odor. You strike me as a man of small stature, a techy nerd, fearful and fretting who reads but can’t lead; instead you gratuitously take pot shots at men no doubt your betters physically; and there is no difference between the courage of a Billy Goat and Masculine white leaders; I’m not a ladies man but I’ve never had any trouble attracting women. They seem attracted by my inherent masculinity; I just noticed an SPLC hit to my site and thought of you. When it comes to smells I have a good nose for people and you smell like a rat.
8 September, 2009 at 8:09 pm
Seems to me that when we worry too much about what people are going to think of us that we’re not ourselves. Confidence and capa bility is primarily what attracts women. They need someone who can take care of himself, her, and her offspring.
Think back on men you’ve known who got the really fine girl and your wondering why, at the time, before you had a little more life experience. Women love outlaws rather than the politically correct. You want to marry a high status woman who will defer to your status and I’m not talking about money or position, I’m talking about animal behavior.
8 September, 2009 at 8:30 pm
in reply to Vaultner:
you wrote:
in reply:
Please.
The United States of America can’t control the streets of its own capital after dark, save in a very narrow meaning of the term.
Rumsfeld said the steeets of Baghdad – insurgency and all – were safer than the streets of certain sections of Washington, DC after dark.
The issue is how you choose to define the word “control,” and in what context you choose to use it.
In the context of a Northwest Republic as a Racial Homeland for the White Race, believe me, the government has far more to worry about than a handful of people who believe as Brigham Young and his followers believed:
“WE have a Destiny to Fulfill.”
THAT is the Force that motivated Jews for centuries; relentlessly inculcated by the rabbinate, Jews were continually told of their special Destiny as The – singular – Chosen People of God.
THAT Destiny was defined in ONE Word:
Israel, the NATION of the Jewish Race.
In time, it became Israel – the (supposed) Homeland of the Jewish Race.
Worked for them, and will work even better, for us.
The problem I have with people who speak of A-10′s coming in on the Sandpoint Military Academy, for example, is that they all speak in the most horrific and dire of possible outcomes, when they are personally unable to do even the first small thing to make their small part of the Race – THEIR lives, and then, THEIR Family – better.
They won’t even look at the Marine Corps height-weight standards.
They won’t even look at the Marine Corps Personal Fitness Test.
They won’t send ten damn dollars to Alex Linder – address at the top of your screen.
So, in microcosm, they display the dilemma that is at the heart of the quality of their thinking.
Just as they can’t do the simplest of things, to better their lives, so they – out of the sheer envy of the incompetent for the extraordinary – simply can not imagine a Northwest Republic coming to fruition.
Just because they are failures doesn’t mean the rest of us have to be.
And, if we can not make it there ourselves, we can certainly support those who can, and, in time, will.
Our Posterity.
Vaultner, sit down tonight, and write a letter to your grandchildren.
I know you are a young man, and can not imagine being a Patriarch, but please take an hour and write out a short biography of your life to date, and how you see the rest of your life unfolding, and why.
Then, extrapolate that to the America of fifty years from now.
Now, explain to YOUR Grandchildren – YOUR Posterity- what YOU did to make one small part of the world better for them.
It is no secret that my Nephews – recent graduates from a high school back in the hills – have been relearning to read by reading from “A Distant Thunder,” every night.
I then sit down with them – no tv in the house! – and help them to discuss the concepts they find in that book.
I intend for them a prepare themselves to flee what America will become all too soon, and build – MAKE – a better way, a better life, in what could well become a Northwest Republic.
I’m doing what I can to prepare them to meet, and fulfill, a Destiny.
I’m offering them three things:
Honor, Discipline, and the Stars.
What are you prepared to leave YOUR grandchildren?
Why so little?
Why have you accepted – “tolerated” – failure at so young an age?
Linder said it best:
The best rebellion is excellence.
Forget those trite weapons of you and Ol’ Granpa’s squirrel rifle taking on the most powerful Armed Forces in the history of the world.
The Order tried that.
Make yourself a better Man, and in time you might well be a Patriarch.
Your portrait MIGHT end up in the William Luther Pierce Memorial Chapel, at the Sandpoint Military Academy.
Start where you are.
It’s a very good place to start!
8 September, 2009 at 9:36 pm
Well said, New America…
9 September, 2009 at 1:29 am
in partial reply to Jim Giles:
You made some interesting points.
I would like to address some of them.
you wrote:
in reply:
As long as you are open and honest about trying to recruit Covington to Arcadia, so much the better. I read the FAEM site some years ago, so the definition and arguments for Arcadia might have changed.
Looking at the demographic future, it’s the Northwest Republic, for me and mine.
The Northwest Republic works as an Analytical Model, at least for me.
AS Harold Covington notes, “For the first time, we are not running AWAY from something bad. We are running TO something better.”
I’ll take that.
you wrote:
in reply:
I’ll be addressing the issues of Social Network Hacking and Monkeywrenching a lot more in the days to come.
Suddenly, so much that “went wrong,” was encouraged to “go wrong,” or MADE to “go wrong,” for a reason.
you wrote:
in reply:
I don’t see Buchanan as “the Enemy,” per se, in the sense of being an intentional Enemy.
I DO see Buchanan as the man who was “reasonable” with people who intended to destroy our Race.
I DO see Buchanan as the man who realized, too late, what the full magnitude of what he was up against looked like, as well as the quality of the people he was relating to.
The problem is this:
All too many of our “intellectuals” are using terms that are all but synonymous with Race – references to “Western Civilization,” “Christianity,” social conservatism, genetic endowments, all, one and all, soft euphemisms for recognizing the fact that the White Race, ALONE, Creates, and Builds Better.
I suspect, after the recent puling of his most recent opinion piece from MSNBC, that he is well on his way to being “dynamically silenced.”
Good.
9 September, 2009 at 6:55 am
In reply to New America:
What you say in response to the Northwest Republic and Arcadia sounds good to me.
I agree with what you say about Patsy; in large part it’s a generational thing too; vDare, Brimelow, Sailer, etc. are also pussies. You state it nicely but that’s what they are; Patsy is the toughest amongst a gang of sissies.
There is another group of intellectuals emerging at TOQ led it seems to me by Dr. MacDonald (and maybe that Omeara fellow sp?) who is tough as nails and from a younger generation; they look like the kind of revolutionary intellectuals we need.
9 September, 2009 at 7:19 am
jewboyamerikwa said:
“The United States of America can’t control the streets of its own capital after dark, save in a very narrow meaning of the term.”
No shit, because they don’t want to.
It’s people like you who can’t look at history & see what’s coming around the corner like the Civil War 1861 – 1865 remember the government saying “Oh all you White folks want to leave the Union, fine by me” no that didn’t happen did it? YOU DREAM!
Go sit down & write your own grandchildren a letter fuckhead, or better yet take an honest look at your dream plan & the actual likely results, because it won’t be some glorious victory.
In the Civil War of the 1860′s both sides were quite equal except for manpower. Which the North greatly outnumbered the South & this was the overall determining factor.
Lets jump to 2009 you don’t have the manpower. You don’t have the funds & you sure as hell don’t have the equipment the modern U.S. Military does. So give it up & come back to reality.
9 September, 2009 at 8:51 am
http://vnnforum.com/showpost.php?p=1046653&postcount=3
Have you heard the expression, ‘Kicking ass and taking names.’ That’s what Mr. Linder is doing in the above.
And gentlemen, another note on goats and their aroma, hell it’s a God Damn farm! Like my old German friend Wolfgang used to say as we passed German farms, ‘Smell the Agriculture’ with a big grin on his face.
9 September, 2009 at 1:07 pm
Well, there are farms and then there are farms. Hog farms, even the sterile-as-possible hog farm owned by the Japanese that I visited in Oklahoma, ten years ago, smelled like a hog farm. Buck goats are in the same category: You want them downwind not only of where you live but where you spend much time. They are something else.
Agritourisimos in Tuscany usually feature wine and olive oil rather than buck goats or hogs. Some have some amazing ham but the pigs, some of them ancient varieties are away from the B&B operation. And attention is paid to prevailing winds in the layout if there is gamey livestock. Buck goats are the gamiest.
Calling someone an old goat, to those in the know, is the same as dirty old man. The expression has fallen into misuse by urbanites: It did not start out meaning primarily sexual proclivities althrough bucks, at times, are pretty focused.
9 September, 2009 at 1:12 pm
-jc,
Good post!
But anyone who is fit enough to do the Marine fitness test surely has nostrels arduous enough to endure a Billy Goat.
Sherlock to mon nez has not started smelling bad yet; he’s about 6 months old; does the stink not come till later on?
Focused is dead on accurate for Sherlock; that’s why I named him Sherlock after the famous detective.
9 September, 2009 at 2:24 pm
Like good red wine, it improves in complexity and subtlety with age. And like humans, the young are incapable of producing the smells of the shall we say mature. Sherlock will get stronger in every way as he ages.
9 September, 2009 at 2:50 pm
What’s being thrown at the British National Party, currently:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtJDH0siIeY&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Enationalpolicyinstitute%2Eorg%2F2009%2F09%2F07%2Fbnp%2Dchairmans%2Dupdate%2Dequality%2Dcommission%2Dcourt%2Dcase%2Dstatement%2F&feature=player_embedded#t=127