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25 October, 2009 at 1:26 pm
For “Christian White Nationalists” Jewsus and getting into heaven will always trump race. That’s why I always say you can’t be a Christian and a racist at the same time- they are opposing ideologies. I’m glad Alex is on the right side of this issue.
I wonder what our resident Christard Conservative Tom McReen has to say about this? You love Jewsus, don’t you Tom? ;-)
25 October, 2009 at 1:50 pm
I don’t see Christianity and White Nationalism being opposed philosophies. If the White race disappears, Christianity will also vanish or meld into some Brazilian mumbo jumbo religion, which would be a win win scenario for jews.
If Christians are sincere in wanting their religion to flourish they should see to it that the carriers of that faith, the White race, is able to thrive.
25 October, 2009 at 2:02 pm
CW-2 said:
“If Christians are sincere in wanting their religion to flourish they should see to it that the carriers of that faith, the White race, is able to thrive.”
But the White Race is becoming irrelevant to the Christian Church. A majority of new converts to this Semitic religion are in the third world, in particular, Africa. I read somewhere that the Anglican Church is larger in Africa than the rest of the world. Christianity is hardly practiced in Europe, and churches are largely empty, save for a few older people. This is particularly true with the Catholic Church, and this is why the Pope has been taking tours to European countries such as his recent visit to the Czech Republic begging people to return to the faith.
What it all comes down to is souls. Christianity isn’t worried about your race and it doesn’t care who you are, all that matters is chalking up your soul for Jewsus.
25 October, 2009 at 3:06 pm
“Can you be loyal to both your race and Jesus? One has to come first. Which is it gonna be?”
Yes, one must be primary, but this doesn’t answer the first question. All down through history men have been loyal to both. Suppose I were to ask, “Can you be loyal to both your family and your country? One has to come first. Which is it gonna be?”
The continued insistence here that everything Christians currently believe about race is what they have always believed about race is very frustrating. This is like believing that our “federal” government is actually federal because it bears the name, or that this empire really consists of united states because it bears the name. No, the words “federal” and “state” have specific meanings.
I appreciate the comments Alex left at SWB. My response here:
http://spiritwaterblood.com/2009/10/a-response-to-alex-linder/comment-page-2/#comment-14928
25 October, 2009 at 5:24 pm
“Ach”, a Papal bull from the Pope of Kirksville, MO 63501.
LOL.
25 October, 2009 at 5:38 pm
CW-2, have you forgotten that the Catholic Church forced millions of New World Indians to convert after the Church lost all those northern Europeans to Protestantism? The Vatican doesn’t give a shit about Race, only about wielding power. As if that wasn’t bad enough, then all those Catholic missionaries started having “missionary sex” with the savages, thus giving birth to the Mestizo race! Scumbags.
And don’t forget the sacking of Constantinople in 1204, the St. Bartholemew’s Day Massacre of 1572 or The 30 Year War, which killed off about 25% of Germany’s population in the early 1600s. All of those White-on-White attrocities were committed in the name of Christ. And those are just the ones I can think of offhand.
Christianity is bad medicine for the White man. It is fit only for sissies, psychos, schemers, dreamers, superstitious little old ladies and primitive tree-dwelling anthropoids.
25 October, 2009 at 5:49 pm
I suppose you could say it’s good for rulers too. They liked it since the time of Clovis, once they realized that it was a great way to control those undependable peasants out there in the fields, and keep them in line with spooks that are watching them all the time.
25 October, 2009 at 5:53 pm
And who is responsible for bringing Somalis and other subhumans into White places like Vermont and Maine? It’s those god damn Christian churches, that’s who! And who is doing lots of missionary work in Africa, Latin America and Asia, hoping to get new converts? And who is giving those 3rd World savages food and medicine to help them produce new generations of useless eaters?
And a lot of those churches and religious organizations are making money hand-over-fist, tax-free. The only thing they have to do in order to keep their tax-exempt status is to tranquilize their flocks with Bible fairy-tales so that the fools won’t rise up against the Government.
25 October, 2009 at 6:06 pm
Tim, it’s almost useless to argue with people who are consumed with Jewsus love. Take Tom McReen for example. Any reasonable, intelligent White person can see Christianity is toxic for the survival of the White Race, but people like McReen cling to it like an unrequited lover. Perhaps McReen is hoping to get some personal time in with Jewsus once he ascends into heaven?
25 October, 2009 at 6:13 pm
Ein makes a very good point. For example, I think the main reason Constantine made Christianity the new offical state religion of his weakened, divided Empire is because he thought it would have a positive, unifying effect. Before Xianity was imposed, there was the old Roman pantheon of gods and godesses, but they were mostly used for official or ceremonial purposes and only had appeal among the old Patrician classes anyway. The Roman masses had no gods to turn to and the non-Roman subjects had their own deities. Prince Vladimir converted the Russian tribes to Xianity in 988 for the same reason, I’m sure.
25 October, 2009 at 6:32 pm
Blackshirt, you’re right. It’s impossible to try and convice others to stop believing in religious nonsense. It’s something they will have to figure out for themselves.
Religion was an attempt by primitive man to make sense of the world around him. It was believed that spirits inhabited the forests, clouds, fields and rivers and that those spirits were responsible for providing food, water, a fertile mate, etc. Of course, those spirits had to be appeased or propitiated from time to time with sacrifices of food, animals and sometimes even people. But all that was 10,000 years ago! We should have left religion behind with the stone axe, bearskin clothes and flint-tipped spears.
25 October, 2009 at 6:33 pm
I want to remind Alex, that all a Protestant has to do is to have faith in Jesus Christ to gain salvation—Nothing Else!
Your salvation is by faith alone. There are no works required!
This is a very subtle point and this being Reformation Sunday: Sola fide (“by faith alone”)
25 October, 2009 at 6:39 pm
I don’t want to monopolize this thread, but OD, are you saying that all you have to do is believe that Jesus is Lord and that’s it? Then you can go out and molest a kid or cheat on your wife or do anything else that’s bad and it’s OK, as long as you believe in Jesus? People who think they’re “saved” are more prone to commit criminal and immoral acts because they think the Lord will just forgive them over and over again.
Christianity is bad medicine for the White man.
25 October, 2009 at 6:44 pm
Yes, Old Dutch is right, as usual! All we have to do is worship the Protestant version of the Jewish god Yahweh, and we can all be hard core White racists. Damn if Old Dutch didn’t hit it on the head this time!
25 October, 2009 at 6:59 pm
Not only are works not required for salvation—it is impossible for a man, because of his nature as a man, to perform good works.
25 October, 2009 at 7:16 pm
If Christians actually gave a shit about religion more than race, they’d care about their neighbors’ religion more than their race. What we need is to force people to live by their words. The liberal jew must be forced to come face to face with the niggers they want to push into OUR neighborhoods and schools. The religious need to feel the consequence of superstitions over the military/serious/goal-oriented mindset of a racialist. The Pier 1/Kirkland’s/Pottery Barn sentimentalist shoppers need to see the cost of having bulky ornamentation over the higher functionality of modern European/Japanese design.
25 October, 2009 at 7:31 pm
I never could see how Christianity was or could be, a guiding force in our racial struggle. Christianity throughout history seems to just swallow whatever the ruling class serves up as the ideological soup du jour. And these days that means a big cup of steaming third world savages forced down your throat, as Tim McGreen has pointed out.
Faith trumps race for every Christian I’ve come in contact with. Best to look for our salvation somewhere else.
25 October, 2009 at 7:49 pm
Wow, Jesus really came up with a good plan for “salvation”. First, he gets executed after only three years of his ministry, a ministry where he talks in riddles and no one understands him. High school lasts longer than Jesus’ ministry did. He had no job, no girlfriend and hung out with a bunch of guys all the time. He didn’t even wear pants.
Jesus never bothered visiting other parts of the world, either, where everyone would have been able to see him in the flesh and he would have been able to develop a huge following, like Ghandi, The Dhali Llama and Bruce Springsteen. He just hid out in a remote corner of Palestine. He never even wrote anything down or sat for a portrait like most well-known people back then would have done, so there’s no real evidence he existed.
Then after his death or disappearance, he comes back for a few weeks to hang around with his friends for some reason. Then he splits, mumbling something about coming back again someday. He then allows his friends to get tortured and executed because of him.
Jesus waits 300 years before finally establishing his official church, the Roman Catholic Church. He gets the Pope and the Emperor to make everyone join it or else. He “inspires” a bunch of alchoholic whore-mongering bishops to write The Bible, a book that is too confusing and messily written for anyone to read without falling asleep. And I guess Jesus forgot that most people back then were illiterate, anyway.
After a thousand years Jesus changes his mind about the Catholic Church and expects a lot of Christians, but not all of them, just the ones in Northern Europe mostly, to convert to Protestantism. But he doesn’t say which Protestant church he wants his followers to join, as there are literally thousands of them. So, a few million Christians in Europe and the Near East get killed in religious wars or burned at the stake as heretics.
And then Jesus lets the Jews, his supposed arch-enemies, take over the world and exploit and enslave everyone. Then he lets the homos and liberals run his churches. Then he lets the Mohammedans, a religion that he apparently didn’t see coming 2000 years ago, give his religion a run for its money.
2000 years have gone by and there’s still no sign that Jesus is ever coming back. Did he decieve his original followers, who were promised that Jesus would return in their lifetimes?
I mean, really! Is this any way to run a religion?
25 October, 2009 at 7:59 pm
Wow, Tim! Excellent summary.
25 October, 2009 at 7:59 pm
{old dutch Says:
25 October, 2009 at 6:59 pm
Not only are works not required for salvation—it is impossible for a man, because of his nature as a man, to perform good works.}
Really? People are incapable of performing good works? I just helped an elderly man find his car-keys today. A stranger gave me a lift a few months ago after my car ran out of gas. If it wasn’t for that person, I might still be walking home on I-95 right now. A doctor once saved my life even though I had no medical insurance.
Christians who perform good works usually only do it because they think they’ll score brownie points with Jesus. The non-religious person helps out others because HE thinks it’s the right thing to do, not because his god expects him to do it.
25 October, 2009 at 8:02 pm
Tim McGreen that was about the best summary of Christinsanity I have EVER read!!!That sums it up. It explained 2000 years of bullshit. I used to be a follower of this Jew-worshipping cult. The best source of this type of subject is: http://WWW.DarrellWConder.com. It pretty much explains alot. Conder himself was a follower. I highly recommend it.
25 October, 2009 at 11:06 pm
blackshit==TimMcHeeb. Sockpuppetry – is there a lower or jewier form of trolling?
26 October, 2009 at 1:39 am
@Tim McGreen, That is beautiful in its conciseness and attitude. Only those who can’t see things for what they are can still believe the Jesus story. It’s bad fiction, nothing more. Hell, in a few hundred years there might be a cult of Lord of the Rings, if Joseph Smith’s crew hasn’t already reproduced sufficiently to make their religion dominant.
26 October, 2009 at 1:44 am
{BenBENSON Says:
25 October, 2009 at 11:06 pm
blackshit==TimMcHeeb. Sockpuppetry – is there a lower or jewier form of trolling?}
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Like I said, Blackshirt, it’s impossible to convince a fool not to believe in religious nonsense, as exemplified by this intellectual collosus. He doesn’t even know why he’s a “Christian” or what he’s supposed to do as a Christian, except maybe use immature, decidedly UNChristian language against his intellectual betters.
Sure, BenBENSON is an exceptionally pathetic fool, but deep down even he knows he’s been bested and that his Christian gods don’t really exist. But I won’t rub it in too much, Ben. Now you run along, OK? Atta boy.
26 October, 2009 at 1:55 am
Gentlemen, thank you very much for your kind words regarding my summation of 2000 years worth of Christian lies and empty promises. Is there really anyone who can defend that absurd mess of a religion without resorting to name-calling or hysteria? I think not.
26 October, 2009 at 1:57 am
Kinism as defined in the article is a pseudoscientific, pseudoreligious doctrine, compatible with neither science nor the Christian religion. The Christian part of it is anti-science, while the scientific part is anti-Christian. The scientific theory of evolution is sufficient to explain the origin and existence of human races. Yet the scientific view desacralizes, and undermines the ideology being promoted. Hence kinists, viewing the human races as having been created by God, are forced to be anti-science. Conversely, if the scientific view is correct that human races have arisen via random genetic mutations and persisted due to the action of natural selection, no recourse to a mysterious entity such as God or Jesus is necessary. Such a view has no need for Christ, and is therefore anti-Christian.
Still, attempts to revive Christianity in the current context are understandable, if misguided. Dr. Pierce perceived its value, and a large part of his book Hunter is devoted to working out just how such a thing might be done. After all, Christianity is a known quantity, having proved its value in unifying and protecting the white race from conquest by Muslim hordes both in Eastern and Western Europe. It provided the glue that helped bind Western culture together for centuries in the “hierarchic harmony” that is looked upon with such nostalgia by Dr. MacDonald and others. For Western man, it has been a wellspring of artistic and cultural creation without equal. Until the beginning of the 20th century, it could well have been said that the history of Western man was little more than the history of Christianity, a chronicle of its spread, its vicissitudes and wars. For these reasons, advocates for the white race often look upon it fondly and would like to revive it, despite its many defects. Besides, putting together a mass movement among whites without the aid of the unifying force of a common religion seems inconceivable. Yet, modern Christianity is only an empty shell, a ghost of its former self. As a cultural force for unifying and saving the white race it seems spent, and indeed, far from helping to save the white race, it is these days in the front lines of the battle to destroy it. How did this happen? Christianity was transformed from a great ally of the white race to one of its bitterest foes largely through its encounter with science, which inevitably caused an ascension of egalitarianism among its believers. For although the science of race teaches inequality, the global technological system, which is the material manifestation of science, fosters a radical equality, Bolshevik in its effect if not its intent. Likewise, in addition to egalitarianism, a large part of the anomie and atomization of our modern world is due to the triumph of science in its contest with Christianity over the course of the last century. It is the nihilism of modern man that stands out most; he simply can’t believe in the old gods any more. Even reason is suspect, especially where it dares to contradict Equality, which one might observe has become the one true God of the global technological system. Now that this new God has won men’s hearts and souls, there is no easy way to bring the old Christianity back. The death of the old God is irreversible, a one way process like all death. That which is dead does not come back, or if so, only by the most circuitous of routes; nor can faith in a dead God be revived, at least by any technical process. This late in the game, only an utter catastrophe would possibly stand a chance to bring something like that about. Only the complete collapse of the global technological system will be enough to topple the fake God named Equality from its pedestal, and return the white race to its position of primacy. The white race called forth from the ashes of civilization will be purified by having passed through fire.
26 October, 2009 at 2:32 am
Tim, I’m not even going to give the troll you referred to an acknowledgment. For all we know he is another one of McReen’s many aliases. He does fit the McReen modus operandi, which is attack, insult, and never add anything constructive to the topic.
26 October, 2009 at 2:39 am
Tim, you also made a great observation regarding the ineptitude of CI and Jewsus fans to make a reasoned or intelligent argument for Christinsanity here. I’ve challenged McReen to do so many times, but all he can do is accuse me and others here of being “leftists” “marxists” “satanists”, etc. etc.. McReen and his ilk will not dare to enter into reasoned debate with us anti-Christians because they know they will get an intellectual smack down.
26 October, 2009 at 6:03 am
Some very lively posts here. My position is not concerned with the historical accuracy or otherwise of Christianity but simply acknowledges that it is still a potent force in the world, presently hostile to us, but that misplaced attitude may change as the mud and muslim tide advances and churchmen look to anybody who can save their ass.
For good or ill Christianity has always found itself entangled with politics. The 30 Years War provides a pertinent example. Catholic France under Richelieu allied itself with the Protestant German princes. The contradiction disappears once we see that Richelieu, (probably a jew), wasn’t concerned with dogmatic religious disputation but only increasing French power. When Cardinal Richelieu died Louis XIII is reputed to have commented, “if there is an afterlife then the Cardinal has much to answer for, if there is not, he served France well.”
The mass acceptance of equality and egalitarianism is baffling, but possibly stems from the pervasiveness of uniform consumer items. Modern mass production strives for the manufacture of identical items, but Nature lives by inequality. Proclaiming the equality of all men makes about as much sense as stating all cars are created equal, sure all Fords maybe ‘equal’, but all Fords aren’t equal to all BMWs.
26 October, 2009 at 7:09 am
Well it is so transparent that it is very hostile. If it were a little more subtle it would be an attempt at subterfuge. But when one post right after the other congratulates the one before… It is a typical extremely hostile Jew. And the typical extremely hostile Jew is a gay Jew. Which is what this thing is. I think it is more than one however.
I do still congratulate that impressive work with the SAT word lists that creates the aura of superiority. Too bad the Jewish culture is completely debased and evil. You may not like organized religion but you’ve got to give it up for the concept of evil. Jews are awash in evil.
26 October, 2009 at 7:13 am
“blackshit==TimMcHeeb. Sockpuppetry – is there a lower or jewier form of trolling?”
No there isn’t. And with these people it doesn’t have to be a junior high school student either. Might be somebody in their mid forties.
26 October, 2009 at 7:59 am
“Really? People are incapable of performing good works? I just helped an elderly man find his car-keys today. A stranger gave me a lift a few months ago after my car ran out of gas. If it wasn’t for that person, I might still be walking home on I-95 right now. A doctor once saved my life even though I had no medical insurance.”
Save your anecdotes for your nuns, or your priest in confession. LOL.
26 October, 2009 at 9:31 am
Believest thou not that God came down from Heaven in the form of a lowly Jew, and arranged to have Himself crucified to appease His own anger?
Then, in order that every kindred and tongue might be saved, He rose again and appeared only unto a few lowly Palestinians?
Seriously, though, if you read the NT beginning with the letters of Paul (and those ascribed to Paul), then read Mark (written about 70 AD), next Luke and Matthew (written about 80 AD), then John (written about 90 AD), one gets the suspicious feeling that they are making it up as they go along, particularly in the resurrection appearances. Mark ends with simply an empty tomb, and a “young man” proclaiming that Jesus lives. This escalates to Roman guards, earthquakes, angels descending, etc.
The gospels even disagree about whether the appearances of Jesus were in Galilee or Jerusalem. To me, this is like taking an event 60 years after the supposed occurance of it and not quite getting it right. It would be like saying the D-day invasion was at Brittany instead of Normandy, or that Kennedy was shot in Chicago instead of Dallas.
That is quite sloppy for something that proclaims to give us the truth — not a good sign.
26 October, 2009 at 10:06 am
Right Mystic Yehudi, even God couldn’t please the Jews. LOL.
26 October, 2009 at 10:18 am
Curt O’brian Says:
““blackshit==TimMcHeeb. Sockpuppetry – is there a lower or jewier form of trolling?”
No there isn’t. And with these people it doesn’t have to be a junior high school student either. Might be somebody in their mid forties.”
Tom McReen’s multiple personality disorder in action. He pulled “Curt” out of his hat to answer his other personality “ben”. LOL
26 October, 2009 at 2:26 pm
Olde Doofus, just because you are a mean, selfish little old man who never did a decent thing for another human being in his whole wretched life doesn’t mean everyone else is like that. LOL.
26 October, 2009 at 2:50 pm
The first Christian Bible didn’t come out until the year 380. As far as I know there are no earlier extant copies of the NT from before that date. That tells me the New Testament was written not just decades but centuries after Jesus and his friends supposedly lived. And the Bible as it exists now didn’t appear until the late medieval or early renaissance period. That tells me that most of the NT, in its present form, was written less than 1000 years ago.
And whose Bible is the “correct” one? The Catholic Bible has several books in it that the Protestant version doesn’t have. And there are over 20 other Church texts that never made the final cut in either version. And then there is the Gnostic Bible, which the Vatican ordered to be burned in the 5th Century but a copy of which was found hidden away in some clay jars in Nag Hammadi, Egypt in 1945. It’s way different from the conventional Bibles. And there are many different translations of all those Bibles, too, many of which conflict with each other.
So please tell me, my gentle, modest, enlightened Christian friends, which Bible do you want me to believe in? Or is that too “Jewish” a question to ask?
26 October, 2009 at 2:57 pm
“Seriously, though, if you read the NT beginning with the letters of Paul (and those ascribed to Paul), then read Mark (written about 70 AD), next Luke and Matthew (written about 80 AD), then John (written about 90 AD), one gets the suspicious feeling that they are making it up as they go along, particularly in the resurrection appearances. Mark ends with simply an empty tomb, and a “young man” proclaiming that Jesus lives. This escalates to Roman guards, earthquakes, angels descending, etc.”
You don’t have to go as far as the new Testament to figure out it’s all bullshit. First God designed Adam and Eve without a knowledge of good and evil. Later, he punishes them for doing “evil.” Great planning there, God! Somehow, punishing innocent people for your own mistakes seems somehow, well, “Ungodly.” But that’s just me.
But later, he “saves” the human race by impregnating his own mother by the “holy spirit,” a persona of himself, and gives birth to, uh, his son, which is really just another well, persona of himself.
It makes perfect sense! And all you have to do to avoid going to a bad bad place called “hell” is to somehow “accept” Jesus” as your personal savior from the bad things that Adam and Eve did, even though they didn’t have anyway of knowing it was bad to begin with. But they “sinned” anyway. Somehow.
So I guess I need to accept Jesus as my personal savior, to save me from – Jesus. I think?
Hooray! I am saved.
26 October, 2009 at 3:18 pm
Dearly Beloved Brethren!!!
God answers all who kneel and pray,
is a truth accepted day by day.
Behold, their bright and joyful lot,
who have faith in what Jesus taught!
If you’ve empty pockets and tables bare,
Fight ye not for your natural share;
that would be wrong, but creep and sigh,
and you’ll go to heaven when you die.
For the meek and humble who obey,
there’s a happy land, far, far away;
but a fearsome, fiery brimstone pit,
shall melt their marrow, who won’t – submit.
If foe-men smite you on one cheek,
turn round the other, tearful cheek;
if perjured knaves your votes betray:
come ‘wicked sinners,’ kneel and – pray.
If Hebrews fleece and flay your hide,
heaven’s gates for you, shall open wide;
Christ, your Shepard won’t lead astray,
O, Lamb of God, come bleat and pray.
If you’re bruised and beaten, shorn and sold,
you’re sure of stalls in your Father’s fold.
But if you fight, and if you slay!
Hell roasts your soul forever and aye.
If elected persons invade your wealth,
with bribes and lies or deadly stealth,
and threat your bones with a bannered host:
Christ is your refuge, and the Holy Ghost.
You’ll triumph thus ‘in the dawning years,’
hope on, toil on, in this vale of tears,
sing “Rock of Ages, cleft for me,
O! let me hide myself in thee.”
26 October, 2009 at 3:47 pm
“…just because you are a mean, selfish little old man who never did a decent thing for another human being in his whole wretched life doesn’t mean everyone else is like that.”
You are delusional. And now you show yourself to believe in the messianic save the world universalism that is Judaism. If you are White, and I doubt it—you are your own worst enemy. You are the type who thinks he has to save the world, and everything that you do has some great meaning in a small “c” catholic sense.
Any little favor or kindness you attempt to do has some great meaning. You really should seek professional help. LOL.
26 October, 2009 at 7:05 pm
Quite good, Hoosier, quite good.
I have been told that there is actually a version of the New Testament that portrays Christ and the disciples as fighting men.
This deceitful version of the NT was written to entice Germanics to become Christians by casting Christ in the hero mode, rather than in the bleating lamb mode.
I have not read it, but I have seen it for sale.
26 October, 2009 at 7:55 pm
If you’re talking about the poem, Antagonistes, I didn’t write it. A guy going by the name “Ragnar Redbeard” did in a book called “Might is Right.”
26 October, 2009 at 8:21 pm
in reply to Hoosier:
Welcome back!
We might disagree on this one, but we do agree on the importance of Race as a principle of social organization.
My anger with Christianity is not with Christianity, but with Institutional Christianity – JUDEO-Christianity. Intellectually, there can not be any such thing, as Judaism is the EXACT opposite of Christianity.
The spiritual foundation of Christianity can be found in Zoroastrianism – the religion of the Persian Empire, and of Cyrus, the one person outside of Israel who is spoken of favorably.
One of the greatest Christians was Martel, who stopped the expansion of Islam into Europe with sword in hand, and a well-used sword it was, indeed.
What is called “Christianity” is simply the de facto conversion of Judasim (the Feminine) conquering Christianity (the Masculine) by way of deception.
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26 October, 2009 at 9:49 pm
“Any little favor or kindness you attempt to do has some great meaning. You really should seek professional help. LOL.”
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Little things can mean a lot, you old goof. You do a decent thing for a fellow White person and they go on to do something decent for someone else and so on. But such a concept would be alien to your cold, black, stony heart, I suppose.
And you are right about me needing professional help, Olde Douche. I think I’m going crazy having to deal with so many nit-wits like you. LOL.
26 October, 2009 at 10:08 pm
Hello New America
Yeah, dare me to do better. For the third time in 20 years, I find myself having to resolve so-called unresolvable “issues.” The first was an “unresolvable” romantic situation. What a friggen’ holocaust it was. But I DID resolve it.
The second was resolving my “alcoholism” issues. but resolve it I did, althougth it almost killed me and almost stole my mind.
After these were all over, I kept thinking, ” I should be dead.” But, I’m NOT dead. These things should have killed me, but they didn’t. I must be a cat and I have nine lives.” I could feel the fire of life roar through my veins like a volcano. I had done the so-called impossible.
Now, I face “unresolvable” income issues. Once again I must get past this – or I shall die. I think. The good part is, I’ve almost gone full circle. The bad part is, I’m in the hour before midnight, Walpurgisnacht, part of it. I really hate that part. Where the fuck is God when you need him? Off somewhere on vacation, I guess, the unreliable prick.
And I HAVE to do better. But all I want to do is go to sleep and sleep for about a week. Fuck everything. I’m so tired. But I’m also gaining weird new abilities, maybe they come out under extreme pressure.
It’s not like I can levitate, or anything crazy, but I can put myself to sleep in 5 minutes, instead of tossing and turning. I can somehow shift my perception into a more distant and relaxed state of mind, almost at will, so I can see more of the forest and less of the trees. And I can “meditate” as I call it, and really gain some good insights. It’s very weird, but true. Somehow, I just “learned” how to do these things, out of the blue.
Eh, sorry for the rant. I’m not a madman, really. Haha, really. I bet you, New America, know exactly what I’m talking about, as you have alluded to going through similar things. I bet the Mystic Yogi of the Kali Yuga, and Marwinsing knows exactly what I’m talking about.
On the other hand, maybe it was all pretty easy but I just like drama.
So dare me to do better.
26 October, 2009 at 10:24 pm
So. From a metaphorical point of view, I can understand Jesus dying on a cross and resurrecting himself, or Odin hanging on Yagdrasil to gain knew knowledge. Mostly, it sucks.
26 October, 2009 at 10:36 pm
And there’s also the story of the giant Prometheus being chained or crucified on the side of a mountain in the Caucauses while Zeus’ eagle tears open Prometheus in the gut, much like the crucified Jesus was said to be stabbed in his gut by a soldier’s spear.
26 October, 2009 at 10:45 pm
A Catholic guy I used to work with never believed that Jesus walked on water. He figured that he was just standing on a sandbar.
I always thought that was pretty funny.
26 October, 2009 at 10:55 pm
in reply to Hoosier:
Ironically, this thread is pretty close to where we left off:
http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/?p=6245#comments
you wrote:
in rely:
Notice the Pattern.
You relied on the support of Something Outside of yourself for assistance, at first, and then it became your God.
Love of a woman?
It’s like electricity; useful, if you can control yourself, and deadly, if you can’t.
The problem is, both parties tend to see in the Other some solution to their problems that they can not find within themselves. Their unwillingness, or inability, to see this becomes amplified, until it is driven home with brutal regularity – the support is no longer needed, and you are FORCED to find this Power within yourself, or you will die, spiritually, as a symbiotic relationship becomes a parasitic relationship.
It’s true in Love based on fulfilling Needs, and it’s true with alcohol.
Think of it, and remember your earlier comments concerning Alcoholics Anonymous.
Weren’t you really attending marriage counseling sessions, and grief counseling sessions, all disguised as Twelve Step Programs?
Isn’t the addiction process the same for inappropriate personal relationships, particularly involving the opposite sex?
Yes.
And – this is why the success rate of Alcoholics Anonymous is so low – the addictive relationship is still close to center of their lives. They talk about it all of the time, and thus, vicariously, experience it over and over, from a hopefully saver and ever-growing distance.
I wasted two years with a women who was bipolar, and this was masked by her alcoholism – on the down phase, where it was taking her life, and almost took what was left of mine with it.
Yet, the spiritual foundation of alcoholism is anger – the anger of deep-seated betrayal, at a very fundamental level.
The same thing is true of many so-called “romantic relationships.”
The Dance of Anger is played out, repeatedly, in many Forms, until the Parties Get The Lesson.
The “being tired, so tired,” is usually the Mind’s Way of blocking Awareness of the depth of the anger of betrayal, the depth of the betrayal, and the response, the depth of the anger.
The Answer involves two components – one, admitting the Anger exists, and two, not letting it stop you from ACTIVITY, which is the one thing that defeats depression – anger turned inward, because it can not be faced outwardly, yet, because it is a reminder of the state of helplessness you experienced when the anger was implanted, and the power the (LEARNED) helplessness response uses to keep YOU, well, helpless…by choice.
The new abilities develop as part of the path of spiritual development; do not become attached to them (consider them small “siddhis”), and use them, knowing that they will, in time, seem to disappear, only to be replaced, in time, with newer and better powers, as you are able to access deeper and high levels of Consciousness because you never fucking gave up – which is EXACTLY what our Racial Enemy so much wants us to do.
This happened to Jack London, incidentally, and he described it in a story he wrote, the only way one could speak of such things in his place and time.
I find the easiest way for me to deal with the vast complex of issues a collapsing society offers is to define solutions AS IF I was part of Harold Covington’s Northwest Republic.
“How would WE handle this problem? Why we would develop a new, Race-based Solution, along these lines…”
Works for me.
Check out Covington’s new blog, and, if it’s alright with you, let’s keep this useful conversation going.
There are a lot more people in your situation than you might think, and if they can get ONE good idea from our discussion, then the world will be a better place.
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26 October, 2009 at 11:38 pm
Thanks for the reply, New America. I really did attend AA to deal with “alcoholism” rather than those other things you mentioned.
Yes I never fucking gave up. I never fucking will give up. Perhaps a person with greater natural talents than I could deal with things more easily. But I am me, so I have to do the best I can.
It’s funny, but looking back, the answers came right at the beginning of the cycles. But they were too easy, and too simple for me to accept.
So I had to go “full circle” to come back to the beginning. Maybe it’ll be that way the third time through. I estimate I am about 90% of the way there now.
In both cases, the power I needed was indeed, inside myself. I just didn’t know it at the time, or I didn’t know how to access it. I didn’t NEED a God.
I think many people search out gurus, religions and “leaders” to avoid have to go through the struggle. That includes leaders and followers in the White movement too. They want someone else to do their struggle for them. “Presto, chango, follow MY formula and you will be whole/rich/beautiful/wise/saved. I did all the hard work so you won’t have to.”
I can understand why, as the struggle can be unnerving when one is in the middle of it. After all, one doesn’t know how it will turn out, until it’s over.
Well anyway, thanks for the reply, and the “positive energy” I got from it. I apologize for hijacking this thread with my personal issues.
26 October, 2009 at 11:43 pm
One more thing: what Jack London book are you talking about?
26 October, 2009 at 11:57 pm
“The Star Rover,” but all of London applies to our Racial situation.
You didn’t “hijack this thread with personal issues.”
These are issues we all face, and have stopped all of us, in one Form or another, one way or another.
Including the full of potential, misplaced in the wrong place, young James Tiberius Kirk…
Incidentally, London’s Hero DOES walk Among The Stars…
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27 October, 2009 at 11:06 pm
in further reply to Hoosier:
you wrote, in part:
in reply:
Far too many of those in the self-identified “White Movement” are simply looking the best Idea, in the worst possible light.
They are looking at it solely for what is in it for them, and the answer, far too often, is an opportunity to “act out” in very inappropriate ways.
Hence, the “incompetent males” you find so often at self-identified “White Nationalist” meetings. Meetings are usually another bad habit, brought about because no one wants to take the responsibility to actually Do Something. Yet, Doing Something is the only way they can accrue effectiveness, particularly political effectiveness. “Effectiveness,” you will realize, is another word for “power.” Only competent people can handle responsibility responsibly. In turn, that leads us another profoundly important Insight from Alex Linder, which ties into this discussion.
Alex Linder said (paraphrasing):
Competency, responsibility, and power as the test of character.
This is the hallmark of a Patriarchal social order, the social order that is responsible for Civilization.
People quote “leaders and gurus” selectively, and all too often, out of context.
They do so, all too often, to avoid responsibility for their decisions, or lack of decision, and that is fine.
The willingness to accept responsibility is the key to earning sustainable power, and the willingness of accept responsibility is THE hallmark between the Child, and the Man.
This requires the Child to leave Mother, and be in the Company of Men, developing his Persona into an Adult Masculine Persona.
Remove him of that necessary obstacle, that all-important opportunity in disguise, and the Boy never has the opportunity to become a Man, much less a Patriarch.
Jack London deals with these issues with great aplomb, particularly his stories dealing with life in the North, using wolves as metaphor for the best of us, Racially,
Useful reading.
I was assigned the duty in Seventh Grade to read and report on “To Build A Fire.” An excellent short story, I saw it through the eyes of a Child.
Now, I make constant internal reference to it as a metaphor for discussion of Harold Covington’s Northwest Republic Analytical Model.
In the lonely, dark hours, Jack London’s North writings might make useful companionship for finding the Core of who you are, and What You Can Do About It.
Linder had it right: Power Is The Test Of Character.
Jack London would have totally agreed with him.
So do I!
Note, in my sig, the important point no one wants to discuss; that Covington has removed our excuses.
That says a lot about us, as well.
my new sig:
28 October, 2009 at 4:11 pm
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Jesus doesn’t exist… and white people are fucked!
Immaculate Conception?
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28 October, 2009 at 6:06 pm
you wrote:
in reply:
If I can flesh out what I think your questions might be, in the framework of this thread’s topic…
One, Jesus is dead.
He died two thousand years ago, on the Cross.
Christ Lives.
Christ, the SPIRIT – the “Word, who was with God, and was A God” – came out of the tomb, and has acted to spur the best of the West to move forward.
Look at how our pagan forebearers failed, because of disorganization at any higher level than the local tribe, and see how they succeeded by putting away their provincial limits, and united under a dynamic, Masculine Christianity.
THAT Word – “A God, who was WITH God” – lives, and simply asks for those who are ready to talk with Him to do so.
In turn, His Father allows the Adversary Forces to test us to the point of the destruction of the Illusions we have unwittingly accepted, and have allowed to rule our lives, to our misfortune.
Two, Immaculate Conception – “parthenogeneis,” seen in the (material_ microcosm we call Nature, for example – was prefigured in the works that prefigured the Christian Era.
Let’s not mince words here.
Christianity’s spiritual direct ancestor was Zoroastrianism; read THEIR Sacred Text.
Christianity, in turn, is found in just four books of the Bible – the Gospel – and what Christianity MAY become is found in the book authored by Jesus Christ – see the beginning of it – the Revelation, penned by the most advanced Initiate on the face of the Earth at the time.
Rome – temporal power – and Judaism – a Racial Philosophy – worked ruthlessly to pervert Christianity, starting with the First Council of Nicea, where the doctrines of karma and reincarnation were voted out of “Christian” doctrine by a three to two vote, as the Church – the Insitutional form of Christianity – became the handmaiden of the State.
The Jews, in turn, working, as always, on behalf of their “Father, the Devil,” have worked to reduce Christianity to another, controlled temporal philosophy, starting with the Second Council of of Nicea, and hitting their irreversible peak with Vatican II, the only Vatican Conclave that was not limited to discussing theological issues, but only the Jew-created doctrine of “racism.”
Hence, my opposition to the Institutional Church.
That having been said, it is useful to recall a point first made by Peter shank, and which I have made repeatedly:
Christianity is the ONLY religion the Jews stand in direct opposition to. wen we attack “Christianity,” we do the work of the Jews for them.
Why, do you suppose, with all of their experience, and all of their learning, enhanced over a period of centuries, do the Jews only fight ON religion?
What do they know, that we refuse to see?
Why is that, do you suppose?
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28 October, 2009 at 9:06 pm
New America, I will get back to this, but it may be a few days or up to a week – or so. So subscribe to comments or check back later.
28 October, 2009 at 9:27 pm
New America says:
“Christianity is the ONLY religion the Jews stand in direct opposition to. wen we attack “Christianity,” we do the work of the Jews for them.”
BS. Look at the other Jesus thread, I explain why.
28 October, 2009 at 9:34 pm
“Christianity is the ONLY religion the Jews stand in direct opposition to. wen(sic) we attack “Christianity,” we do the work of the Jews for them.”
What about Islam? The Jews know that the Mohammedans pose a greater threat to their stranglehold on the world than the pussified Christians do.
28 October, 2009 at 10:14 pm
Tim, these CI and Christard types don’t care about yours or my logic, what matters to them is that they get to the heaven they have been taught to believe in all their lives. People like us who point out how bad Christinsanity is for the White race threaten what they have been raised to believe ever since they were children. They so desperately want to hang on to Christianity and that wonderful afterlife they have been promised, to abandon that would be like abandoning their own mothers. I know. I was one of them for the first 22 years of my life and I was terrified to question what I’d been taught.
So, what do these people do when they are confronted with the true reality of Christianity? They do everything they can to hang on to it and be “racial” too. That’s why CI is always so popular with these folks. Claim Jewsus was a Aryan and the “real” Israelites were Aryans, and wallah! logical problems with Jewsus really being a yid solved. The other way out for them is to claim that the Jews hate Christianity, so we should embrace it and never attack it. This is cowardice and a cop out in my opinion.
28 October, 2009 at 11:26 pm
Hey Rabbi Glass-Covington,
Will you do some “Heavy Lifting” for me? I ned guidance, but your prophet “New America” , blessings be upon him, just blathers on and on speaking in tongues – he really gets caught up in his verbal diarrhea. Can you decipher it all for me with your super-duper, top-notch, mega “heavy lifting” intellect?
Thanks, Rabbi!
Contribution coming soon in Zimbabwe dollars to your NorthWest migration to New Zion.
31 October, 2009 at 10:13 pm
in reply to Tim McGreen:
you wrote, quoting me:
“Christianity is the ONLY religion the Jews stand in direct opposition to. wen(sic) we attack “Christianity,” we do the work of the Jews for them.”
in reply:
No, the Jews know Islam poses a direct demographic threat to the Zionist entity in Plestine.
The Jews have long made their peace with all but the most immoderate of the Islamic nations, because they recognize each other as Racial Kindred, united in their common hatred of the West, the White Race, and Western Civilization.
After all, both deny that Jesus is the Christ.
Thus, both serve the Spirit of Anti-Christ.
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1 November, 2009 at 12:07 am
“No, the Jews know Islam poses a direct demographic threat to the Zionist entity in Palestine.
The Jews have long made their peace with all but the most immoderate of the Islamic nations, because they recognize each other as Racial Kindred, united in their common hatred of the West, the White Race, and Western Civilization.”
Good point there. They may have a family feud going, but feud or not, they’re still family. And they know this.
But it’s not in their interest to let us know it.
Family spats are eventually patched up, but outside meddlers are not forgiven for getting involved. The Arabs will hate us now for centuries.
1 November, 2009 at 8:04 pm
“For “Christian White Nationalists” Jewsus and getting into heaven will always trump race. That’s why I always say you can’t be a Christian and a racist at the same time- they are opposing ideologies. I’m glad Alex is on the right side of this issue.
I wonder what our resident Christard Conservative Tom McReen has to say about this? You love Jewsus, don’t you Tom? ;-)”
Haven’t even had a chance to take in another VNN Christianity-bashing thread and first post, Blackshirt1488 is straight in there lying that I am a Conservative Christian again.
I’m amused by Blackshirt1488 sucking up to Alex as I am disappointed by Alex giving these anti trolls encouragement. If the future of White Nationalism is Blackshirt and Tim McGreen then White Nationalism has no future.
“I don’t see Christianity and White Nationalism being opposed philosophies.”
Me neither. It’s moot. Also, it’s Blackshirt the troll riding on the atheism of this website’s owner and doing a megalmomaniac Mike Jahn by setting the terms of WNism for us. We didn’t ask.
I want to save the White race. I don’t give a shit about atheism or joining in with fake ‘WN’ trolls who get a kick out of bashing Christianity and pushing their PERSONAL beliefs.
1 November, 2009 at 8:11 pm
“Tim, you also made a great observation regarding the ineptitude of CI and Jewsus fans to make a reasoned or intelligent argument for Christinsanity here. I’ve challenged McReen to do so many times, but all he can do is accuse me and others here of being “leftists” “marxists” “satanists”, etc. etc.. McReen and his ilk will not dare to enter into reasoned debate with us anti-Christians because they know they will get an intellectual smack down.”
I already exposed you (or you did it yourselves) and your sock/comrade Timmy Jahn as satanists, Crowley lovers, Manson Family admirers, left-wingers, Democrats, Holohoax believers and liberal homosexuality defenders on various threads going back months.
How many ‘smackdowns’ do you need before you get the message you’re not WN? Obviously it hurts being exposed for what you are or else you wouldn’t keep ranting about me on every thread, even on threads like this one which I have avoided up until now.
It stings, doesn’t it, that your little operation has failed? Back to your coven, 1488mossad. Tag-teaming with Tim ‘Mike Jahn’ McGreen doesn’t make you WN either.
1 November, 2009 at 8:18 pm
“Well it is so transparent that it is very hostile. If it were a little more subtle it would be an attempt at subterfuge. But when one post right after the other congratulates the one before… It is a typical extremely hostile Jew. And the typical extremely hostile Jew is a gay Jew. Which is what this thing is. I think it is more than one however.”
It is bizarre, isn’t it? You’d think that an operation with so much time and effort to dedicate to subverting VNN would be a bit more subtle…
1 November, 2009 at 11:26 pm
Tom and Curt, if you represent the best that the “WN movement” has to offer, then it’s small wonder the Jews and their armies of colored inferiors are winning on every front. Keep waiting for Jeebus to float down from Heaven and rapture your limey asses out of here. It’s not going to happen, fools.
2 November, 2009 at 5:48 pm
“Tom and Curt, if you represent the best that the “WN movement” has to offer, then it’s small wonder the Jews and their armies of colored inferiors are winning on every front.”
Jews are helped more by ‘Whites’ who support censoring debate about the holohoax and who love the 1960s anti-White counter-culture.
Wait a minute…
2 November, 2009 at 7:16 pm
New America or anyone else,
I think what I wrote months (years?) back was true then and is still true today. Concerning religion, I propose a simple two point heirarchy for what may be to come:
1. Whites only
2. Freedom of religion. A person can worship, or not worship, in any manner he or she so chooses, as long as it adheres to point 1.
I don’t see how anything else would work. Christianity isn’t going to go away time soon, nor are non-Christians. If there are Christians who won’t work with non-christians, and visa versa, then they will be pressured to go elsewhere.
It may also force out those who want to argue for the sake or arguing.
I can see all kinds of intrigues and problems, but then what is a better solution? It’s a compromise position, but it may work, and seems to me to be the most likely “Freedom of religion” is already in the American psyche anyway.
Also, It seems a new religion entirely would just become a cult, like scientology, or worse.
2 November, 2009 at 7:27 pm
What bothers me about Xianity the most, perhaps, is how many of its adherents try to force their religious beliefs down your fucking throat. If you don’t believe, or stop believing, then their all-loving and compassionate Christian god is going to throw you into Hell forever. And Christians also prey on the dumb savages in Africa and Asia, so that religion obviously makes no distinction between the races.
If you’re a Christian, fine, just keep it to yourself. I don’t want to know about your bowel habits, your love life or your nutjob religion. And don’t ever try to proselytze anyone in my family, either.
2 November, 2009 at 7:54 pm
What do you think about my proposal, Tim? ^ It’s the post right ^ above your last one. If someone has a better idea, I’d like to hear it.
2 November, 2009 at 8:05 pm
“If you’re a Christian, fine, just keep it to yourself. I don’t want to know about your bowel habits, your love life or your nutjob religion.”
Bowel habits? That obsession is all yours, Moishe.
“And don’t ever try to proselytze anyone in my family, either.”
Says the self-appointed boss of WNism and proselytiser of ‘White’ marxism.
2 November, 2009 at 8:12 pm
“What do you think about my proposal, Tim? ^ It’s the post right ^ above your last one. If someone has a better idea, I’d like to hear it.”
I think your proposal is right and sensible.
FYI, Timmy likes Aleister Crowley and the Manson Family so he is understandably hostile to Christianity :)
2 November, 2009 at 8:25 pm
So, Tom, you’d be willing to work with me, a Non-Christian, WN? Well, good. You understand that Tim would be able to study Aleister Crowley if he so wished, right? You’d be able to go to the church of your choice, and I’d be able to go fishing on Sunday mornings. Or sleep in.
We just couldn’t do it with niggers, Jews and Mexicans, and I doubt if any of us would want to anyway.
I think it’s work. My worry is if Christians outnumber the non-Christians, then it’d turn into a Christian movement anyway.
But, it’s just an idea on a internet message board, and without some sort of committee to ratify it and go forward, it’s just words on a screen.
2 November, 2009 at 8:27 pm
I meant, “I think it’d work,” not “I think it’s work.”
2 November, 2009 at 11:35 pm
Tom McReen Says:
2 November, 2009 at 8:12 pm
“…………FYI, Timmy likes Aleister Crowley and the Manson Family so he is understandably hostile to Christianity :)”
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Tom’s sarcasm has reminded me that Charles Milles Manson’s 75th birthday is on November 12th. He is a sort of Christ-like figure, isn’t he? But his sufferings are far worse than anything Jesus supposedly experienced.
2 November, 2009 at 11:42 pm
in considered reply to Hoosier:
I have a simple test for any religion.
Does it support the highest and best interests of Mankind, which are to be found in the Race and genome of the White Race?
That’s it, and nothing else matters.
The issue is, in part, that only the White Race made anything of Christianity; the first time you see a Gothic cathedral, the first time you walk into Chartres, or The Cathedral of Mary Our Queen in Salt Lake City, you realize that none of this is by accident, and only one Race would even dream of making something this inspiring, much less make that Dream a Reality.
The problem is, a lot of people try to jump the gun of spiritual evolution with the development of Christian Universalism. A foreshadowing of this was seen by Christian Initiates on the Day of Pentecost, when all were speaking in different languages, and all understood one another. The common Aspect their souls had allowed the Holy Spirit to act as a Living Bridge between them.
Such FORCED Universalism as we have today guarantees that, like a child pulled from the womb too early, neither the child, nor Christianity, will be able to survive the step into a new world for which it is inadequately developed.
And, my idea of a new religion would be to burn the dross of what Christianity has become, at the Institutional level, and consciously develop a new order of priesthood that could help shepherd the people along as part of a plan of Racial development.
Jung mentioned that Hitler was working on something along these lines, and, from my reading of Jung, he would have supported it.
Feminine Christianity – Failed Christianity – is JUDEO-Christianity, the union of water and poison, which is killing the spirit of our Men (who aren’t wanted in church, and are returning the favor).
That is part and parcel of the Jewish design – the gelding of our Men, and the destruction of our potential Warrior Caste.
Such would be seen as the act of Racial Genocide that it is, and would not be tolerated for a moment in a Northwest Republic.
Quite the contrary.
my new sig:
The Purpose Of Judaism is The Genocide of the White Race.
3 November, 2009 at 12:18 am
“Does it support the highest and best interests of Mankind, which are to be found in the Race and genome of the White Race?
That’s it, and nothing else matters.”
I’ll only speak for myself, as I won’t speak for all of mankind. But no, not for for me it doesn’t, because I don’t believe it to be true. True in the sense that the things in the Bible actually happened.
I agree with you that many beautiful things came about through Christianity, but I believe it was US that gave Christianity it’s beauty. WE are beautiful, and so we molded Christianity into our own image. WE are “western civilization.” WE are the most important component, not Christianity. It’s true that Christianity is part of the reason we have the problems we do today.
But it’s also true that Christianity was one of the pillars of the USA, and provided a positive moral structure. It’s also true that the Jews hate it with a passion. It’s also true that once it goes down, so does the USA, into a mindless mess of consumerism and kill or be killed.
Although I’m not Christian, I was raised in a German/Lutheran working class/middle class enviornment, and although I don’t beleive it, I really can’t abandon it either. It’s my roots, the soil where I came from. I’m not a Christian, but I still think this is a beautiful song:
http://tinyurl.com/yb9rpo3
I suppose that my proposal of:
“1. Whites only
2. Freedom of religion. A person can worship, or not worship, in any manner he or she so chooses, as long as it adheres to point 1.”
is my attempt to cut through the Gordian knot. I think it’s the only thing that can possibly work at this late date.
3 November, 2009 at 12:56 am
in reply to Hoosier:
We have more in common than you might realize.
If the religion works against the best interests of the Race, it simply had to go.
I am proposing nothing less than what Uncle Adolph favored; taking the good, the real, the Eternally True about Christianity, and getting rid of everything that does not do that as directly as possible.
Hence, the Christianity of today would be unimaginable to the Christians of the First Century, whose Priestly (warrior!) Caste would have flatly rejected the leaven of Judaism with the bread of Christianity.
Your model follows the formulations of Harold Covington, so great minds think alike.
I don’t have any problem with that, as the best will out.
What more fertile soil could it ask than the best people, in the best environment for them – a Racial Homeland, with the government organized around one central principle – “Does it serve the best interests of the White Race?”
In the case of what America has become, and shortly will become, the answer is “No.”
Peter Shank made an interesting point some time back when he observed, “Only one Race can not be enslaved forever, and that is the White Race.”
No wonder the Jews hate us.
Good.
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The Purpose Of Judaism is The Genocide of the White Race.
3 November, 2009 at 9:35 am
NA.
I have to say. my own personal “morality” for lack of a better word has taken a shift, from whatever mush it was before to something pretty close to “winning by any means necessary.” It’s a simplier, sturdier kind of mind frame, in direct oppostition to thinking like this.
http://tinyurl.com/yz8ofnr
“There is a lot of talk about character and morality here by men who can’t explain why theirs is any better than Stalin’s, except that theirs promotes survival for the white race.”
I counter that simply assuming survival to be the only standard for good opens the door to every manner of evil done in the name of that ultimate goal. We can lie, cheat, and steal our way to survival and call it morality! As I said, this is no standard at all.”
It’s not HIS standard, that’s for sure. But from my viewpoint, this particular line of thinking is a sure fire way to end up like the guy in this song:
http://tinyurl.com/ypanrp
Oh yeah, it opens the door to all kinds of possibilities that before were closed. He is right about that. But he seems to close the door to “offensive action” – going on the offense, Because it’s “evil,” because he says so. I suppose his reasoning “why” is because it’s “not Christian.” But tell me, what is more masculine than going on the attack, or taking “offensive action?”
Have you ever played football, NA? I have. Can you imagine a football team that does nothing but plays defense and never offense? What’s the odds of them ever winning a football game?
The funny thing is, I’ve become more compassionate, and have developed a real empathy for people in the same boat that I’m in, and even some blacks and others, who, through no fault of their own, are in the same stew we are. The smarter blacks can see what’s going on and they are TERRIFIED. They don’t want us to go down, because they know that they will go down with us. Potential allies? Maybe.
On the other hand, those that attempt to treat me poorly, well, I’m not sure yet what my limits are yet as far as what I am willing to do to them. I have proven to myself that I will take offensive action, and I can’t put into words how RIGHT and GOOD it feels. Uh, no, I am not saying that I committed acts of violence against anyone. Duh.
It could be that Christianity, in it’s present state, is failing because this offensive action, or offensive energy, gets blocked or discouraged because it’s “evil,” or outside the parameters of “good.”
But I believe it MUST be included – in a “new” form of Christianity, or in some way, or we shall lose. No, I’m not advocating violence against anyone in particular. Duh.
But sooner or later, we need to get in touch with our “Inner Rorschach:”
http://tinyurl.com/da4rl7
“None of you seem to understand. I’m not locked up here with you. YOU’RE LOCKED IN HERE WITH ME!”
What a great line. If only we can somehow “remember” that we, white men, are indeed, the most successful and deadly predator on the planet, and stop thinking of ourselves as “victims.” And the current forms of Christianity just can’t provide that.
3 November, 2009 at 9:36 am
^Now, why is my comment on moderation?^
3 November, 2009 at 10:43 am
Ah, there it ’tis. H/T to the czar of the VNN mainpage, Socrates.
^I wanted to add to my 2nd to last ^ message: I think that “offensive” or “attack” energy (I haven’t found the right phrase I’m looking for, but I’m assuming I’m being understandable) houldn’t be the ONLY form used, but I sure think it needs to be added into the mix.
How today’s Christianity could “stretch” to include it is something I can’t answer.
3 November, 2009 at 8:07 pm
in reply to Hoosier:
go to the current Front Page, and look at :
http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/?p=6313#comments
We are moving in the same direction!
More to follow in that thread – which is right on point with this thread.
my new sig:
The Purpose Of Judaism is The Genocide of the White Race.
3 November, 2009 at 9:34 pm
K. I will take a look at it, but I must get back to some affairs I am dealing with, so won’t be commenting. Blessings to you and yours, NA, and I hope to talk to you later.
3 November, 2009 at 9:47 pm
Catch you later, Hoosier.
Thanks for being there!
The thread I referred you to is really facing The Issue head-on!
my new sig:
The Purpose Of Judaism is The Genocide of the White Race.