7 January, 2010

New Political Party Directed by Dr. Kevin MacDonald

Posted by Socrates in Kevin MacDonald, politics, Socrates at 10:54 am | Permanent Link

It’s called American Third Position (A3P):

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  7. 72 Responses to “New Political Party Directed by Dr. Kevin MacDonald”

    1. YOUKNOWWHO Says:

      Shades of National Alliance, anyone? Weak wristed intellectual conservative party with a VERY BAD NAME.

    2. virgil Says:

      kevin is a genius! the adl must be completely crushed a.s.a.p.

    3. alex Says:

      Name of party is goofy – for at least two reasons. 1) calls to mind ‘third sex,’ ie homosexuals. 2) implies the two existing parties represent two different position, when in fact they’re the same on the essentials. The speaker in the video is dressed like a caricature of a conservative while insisting he’s for serious, radical change. That doesn’t work when you’re wearing a white sweater vest and a navy blazer. Red is the revolutionary color. Navy and blue are conservative colors.

    4. half soldier Says:

      Sounds a bit Transgenderite to me, what needs to be positioned is the ZOG/ZOGESS/ZOG???? for a mortal blow too his/her/itz gonads, whatever they look like

    5. Tim McGreen Says:

      {YOUKNOWWHO Says:

      7 January, 2010 at 1:43 pm

      Shades of National Alliance, anyone? Weak wristed intellectual conservative party with a VERY BAD NAME.}

      ***********************************

      YOUKNOWWHO speaks the truth! Very well said.

    6. old dutch Says:

      A3P. Perfect name for a Southern California political party. Just like C3PO and R2D2. Star Power. Movie Stars. Who needs Alex Linder when you have a bevy of blonde beach bimbos interested in the third position.

    7. half soldier Says:

      68 DEGREES IN LONG BEACH, COULDN’T HAVE PICKED A BETTER SITE FOR A WESTERN CAPITOL

    8. half soldier Says:

      3rd position, whats that male on bottom, transgender in the middle, and bleach blonde bimbo on top?

    9. half soldier Says:

      3RD POSITION, SOUNDS LIKE the clarinet section of the orchestra.

      When our party had only seven men, it already had two principles. First, it wanted to be a party with a true ideology. And second, it wanted to be the one and only power in Germany.
      Adolf Hitler

    10. Andrea Dworkin Says:

      Will this 3rd Party name the Jews directly?

    11. Igor Alexander Says:

      “Who needs Alex Linder when you have a bevy of blonde beach bimbos interested in the third position.”

      Bevy of blonde beach bimbos? Count me in! (Though I prefer doggy style to the third position.)

    12. Lutjens Says:

      “His ties to the proposed party “are troubling and I think once again shows (MacDonald) for what he is, which is a bigoted white supremacist,” said Kevin O’Grady, director of the ADL’s Orange County/Long Beach region. ”

      Kevin O’Grady is a director within the ADL ranks? And I always wondered why kikes were called Irish at times… now we know. Mommy must be some kind of filthy, ugly-ass Jew bitch.

    13. Nordlander Says:

      It is a bad name, yes, doesn’t sound inspiring. But still. Below this story here in VNN is a link to a speech by William Pierce, called The Big Picture. He writes:

      What this means for us is that no matter how small our likelihood for success, we must act. No matter how desperate the gamble, we must take it. We must not fail to act. We must not do nothing, simply because no plan seems certain of success. No loss as a consequence of acting can be greater than the loss from failing to act. If we are responsible adults, if we are honorable adults, then we must act. There is no acceptable excuse for not acting — not family obligations, not personal security, not career considerations — no excuse. If we do not act, then everything will be lost, every reason for living, every reason for which our ancestors lived and worked and sacrificed and suffered and died. The deadly filth of Jewish liberalism will spread over our entire race and destroy it — irrevocably, forever.

    14. A. Says:

      Not going after the jew is failing to act. This party doesn’t go after the jew, therefore to waste your time and resources on it rather than using your time and resources to go after the jew, is to fail to act.

      Anything else I can clear up for you?

    15. Andrea Dworkin Says:

      Ron Paul’s results showed that the white man cannot accomplish any meaningful victories by playing the Jew’s political game by the Jew’s rules.

      Why not just ‘The American Party’ or ‘The 1st World Party’ to differentiate it from the DEMS & GOP & their ZOG servitude?

    16. Igor Alexander Says:

      Any party that attacks multiracialism, public schooling, and the Fed is going after the jews, even if it doesn’t mention them by name, but it’s disappointing to see on their website that they don’t explicitly denounce the Israel lobby, which is about as direct an assault on jewish power as you can make in American democratic politics. If their party makes it anywhere, sooner or later they’re going to be called on it, so they may as well make their position absolutely clear now. Taking an explicitly anti-Zionist position would go a long way toward dispelling the notion that they’re an American BNP.

      I’m not going to knock any well-meaning effort to start an openly pro-white party, especially not without seeing how it does, but I don’t have much faith in standard electoral politics at this late stage.

    17. Igor Alexander Says:

      All jokes aside, the “Third Position” is hardly a new term. An excerpt from the Wikipedia article:

      “Third Position is a nationalist political strand that emphasises its opposition to both communism and capitalism. Advocates of third position views present themselves as neither left nor right, instead taking a more syncretic stance.

      Argentina

      The first Juan Peron regime (1946-55) embraced Third Positionist thinking with a hybrid of corporatism and social welfare initiatives.
      [edit]
      France

      Third Position ideology gained some support in France where, in 1985, Jean-Gilles Malliarakis set up Troisième Voie (TV). Considering its main enemies to be the United States, communism and Zionism, the group advocated radical paths to national revolution. Associated for a time with the Groupe Union Défense, TV was generally on poor terms with Front National until 1991, when Malliarakis decided to approach them. As a result, TV fell apart, although a radical splinter group under Christian Bouchet, Nouvelle Résistance, continued to be informed by Third Position views.”

      I do agree with Alex’s point that using this term legitimizes the phoney Republicrat, LibCon paradigm.

    18. Igor Alexander Says:

      It’s interesting that even in French, the term is suggestive of deviant sexuality. Troisième Voie (TV) — TV is also an acronym for a transvestite, no?

    19. Igor Alexander Says:

      How about calling your party The True Alternative?

    20. Igor Alexander Says:

      “Red is the revolutionary color.”

      Doesn’t it bother you that that would associate us with communism? Or is that the point?

    21. Igor Alexander Says:

      It just occured to me that VNN’s color scheme has a lot of red in it. :)

    22. Igor Alexander Says:

      This sort of thing doesn’t seem bad to me:
      http://american3p.org/?p=188

    23. tbow002 Says:

      If we all keep picking eachother apart, down to even a name, we are all as good as dead and forgotten in history. United we stand, Divided we fall…That is so true.

    24. half soldier Says:

      When our party had only seven men, it already had two principles. First, it wanted to be a party with a true ideology. And second, it wanted to be the one and only power in Germany.
      Adolf Hitler

      WE’RE NOT FIGHTING A SYSTEM, WE’RE FIGHTIN THE JEWS AND THEIR COHORTS THE SHABBAZ GOYIM, WE’RE THE LAW AND ORDER, THEY REPRESENT CHAOS… THE STATE DOESN’T ORDER US, WE ORDER THE STATE.

    25. Joe 90 Says:

      Third Position? Sounds like a party that’s destined to lose as the party can’t even make the second position. Still nice guys always finish last… (or is it third?)

    26. Institutional Memory Says:

      Did you say “shades of the National Alliance?” Did you watch the A3P recruiting video? William Johnson is Kevin Alfred Strom with a law degree and a nice, friendly sweater. He speaks with a weak, nasal voice and cites nineteenth century poetry to make his points. Is this the best we can do?

      This A3P project, and the Golden State Party before it, is, in effect, the new west coast National Alliance. Amazingly, several of the principals in this new group speak of their connections to the NA and Strom’s National Vanguard as though that qualifies them to lead.

      Bill Johnson has been in the “movement,” talking about the same failed election strategy for years. Kevin MacDonald was specifically warned about this guy. The good professor will eventually regret putting his name on the A3P project. MacDonald will be used as a fund-raising prop to generate publicity and movement donations. Nothing more.

      While it is true, William Johnson knew Dr. Pierce personally and has supported the NA financially on-and-off since the mid-1980’s, no one in the NA ever took him seriously. I think Will Williams can speak to this if he is still around. Because of Johnson’s political ambitions, Dr. Pierce was generally dismissive of him. Pierce did, however, usually accept Johnson’s phone calls and as far as I know, he always cashed Johnson’s checks.

      Despite having even less charisma than Kevin Strom, Bill Johnson has had this “dream” of White Nationalists being elected to power for most of his life. To his credit, Dr. Pierce tried to dissuade members from this course, but Johnson has repeatedly tried his hand at electoral politics over the past 20 years in a number of states. And he has spent hundreds of thousands of his own and other people’s money trying to get elected. As far as I know, Johnson has never gotten more than a fraction of a percent of the vote in races in Wyoming, Arizona and California since around 1989.

      Once Johnson realized the Pierce-run NA was not going to support him as a candidate, he gradually backed away from the Alliance. Then, around 2004, Shaun Walker began talking about getting Alliance members to consider running for office and Johnson renewed his NA membership. He began donating about a hundred bucks a month. Once again, the NA cashed his checks, but otherwise ignored him.

      In 2005, Johnson supposedly showed up at the David Duke homecoming event in New Orleans. No one seems to remember him there.

      In 2006, Johnson joined the short-lived National Vanguard, where he also donated about $100 a month. He offered Strom’s new organization legal help but I doubt he actually provided any. By 2006 Strom needed criminal lawyers not corporate counsel.

      This American3P deal is just the latest iteration of William Johnson’s vain, personal political aspirations. Bill now believes if he can get his party on the ballot in California he may stand a chance of getting elected to something. He’s wrong. The system will never allow it. Of course, hundreds of new, racially-awakened folks will probably send in donations to learn this lesson all over again.

    27. Justin Huber Says:

      I give them credit for trying, but I’m somewhat skeptical. Myself, I like MacDonald, but I think he would do well to stop pandering to the conservative/Christian crowd. More specifically, don’t hold Sarah Palin up as model of “implicit whiteness” or whatever the phrase is he uses.

    28. Justin Huber Says:

      What will be interesting to see about this party, and I haven’t read any of their platform, is whether they will truly embrace a third positionist ideology i.e. “fascism” or if they’re actually just another group of libertarians/conservatives that don’t like immigration.

    29. FD Says:

      Another 3d wheel party. Status quo — more of the same. MacDonald is a conservative. He brings nothing new to the table. He represents a continuation of big government.

      A shadow government is coming. It will help dissolve the Federals of Washington City. The Constitution is ready for the stacks of a museum. It didn’t work because it promotes equality.

    30. Ivan Says:

      If you were to reflect the gist of your political program in the name of you party you could simply say “Anti-Jewish Party of European Americans”. You have identified your enemy and yourself right there for all to see.

    31. Ivan Says:

      … and you have Party membership criteria right there – you have to be of European descent and you have to have a firm grasp of Jewish Problem and willing to do whatever it takes to bring about the Final Solution on global scale.

    32. Ivan Says:

      .. then I would encourage and help non-whites to create “Anti-Jewish Party of African-Americans”, “Anti-Jewish Party of Latino-Americans”, “Anti-Jewish Party of Asian-Americans”.

      With Final Solution in place, whites and non-whites could easily and peacefully sort out there grievances and differences.

    33. Tim McGreen Says:

      You want a really stupid name for a political party? How about The Moderate Party? Can you think of anything lamer than that? Only in Lame-O Rhode Island. BTW, wasn’t that right-wing neoclown Newt Gingrich always talking about the Third Position or the Third Way as a cynical new political strategy?

    34. Igor Alexander Says:

      “If you were to reflect the gist of your political program in the name of you party you could simply say ‘Anti-Jewish Party of European Americans’.”

      It’s refreshingly honest. I like it!

    35. Igor Alexander Says:

      “With Final Solution in place, whites and non-whites could easily and peacefully sort out there grievances and differences.”

      I don’t know about “peacefully.” The bulk of the problem comes down to “they want free stuff,” whereas we don’t want to give it to them. They have nothing to offer us.

      I don’t see any room for a peaceful resolution in such a one-sided relationship.

    36. half soldier Says:

      A Psychologist as party leader, now that’s a novel idea, look how itz helped the jews bend and warp goy society. Carl Jung wrote that if we had strong symbols we wouldn’t need psychology, and that is true, so we need psychology. Perhaps AP3 isn’t gung ho, mucho macho, but be that as it may soft words can be steel.

    37. half soldier Says:

      Germany of the 30’s was much different society, a youthful society, a society that was used to hard work, battle hardened from the trenches leadership. Not exactly our ‘Kwa, admirable, but workable , no not really… They had strong symbols, the Swastika, Deutschland, the Heimat, not Dubbyas fukkin’ homeland of McDonoes, and Wally world, but architecture and art. Not the fukkin sheet you see in the ‘kwa that wouldn’t inspire a maggot

    38. Tim McGreen Says:

      But half soldier, not all Germans were tough, disciplined and militaristic….Some of the biggest fruitcake racemixing liberals who ever lived were Germans. Berlin in the 1920s was a pretty decadent place, full of homos, Negro jazz musicians, Dadaism, reefer-smoking expatriates, avant-garde theater….every conceivable kind of degeneracy.

    39. Ivan Says:

      Of course, a party with a name “Anti-Jewish Party of European Americans” could never survive in America, not to mention such a party couldn’t be even created today in America. It would have to be created outside US as a party of professional revolutionaries.

      Who could and would bankroll the activities of such a party via unofficial channels? There are governments today in the world who are not under Jewish control at all like Iran, for example, or only partially, like Russia. What about Venezuela under Hugo Chávez? What about Malaysia under the wise tutelage of retired Prime Minister Mahathir Mohammad?

      It doesn’t take much money to support a few hundred professional revolutionaries after all. The financial support could be provided by a few racially conscious and wealthy white businessmen like Henry Ford.

      If the Jews could be brought down in America, that would be the beginning of the end of the Jews for good.

      Why the Jew is winning against the whitey? In part because the Jew is masterfully using almost every other race against the whitey in one way or another. The idea is to reverse it – it should be the whitey who is using every other race against the Jew.

      With the Jew out of the picture, like Dr Pierce said, there would be no unsolvable problems. One thing at a time, dear Igor Alexander, one thing at a time. There is an old Wall Street adage – if you want to get to much too quickly you will get too little very soon.

    40. half soldier Says:

      But half soldier, not all Germans were tough, disciplined and militaristic….Some of the biggest fruitcake racemixing liberals who ever lived were Germans. Berlin in the 1920s was a pretty decadent place, full of homos, Negro jazz musicians, Dadaism, reefer-smoking expatriates, avant-garde theater….every conceivable kind of degeneracy.

      Oh you forgot to mention a helluva lot of fukkin jews

    41. Igor Alexander Says:

      I don’t know about getting Muslim or Arab money to finance any of this. I listened to a Jim Giles interview with Tom Metzger the other day and I remember Metzger saying that in all the years he’s been in this movement, he’s never heard of anyone getting any money from them, maybe with the exception of one guy who got a few grand to write a book. I think things like the revisionist conference in Tehran is about the most we can expect from that part of the world.

    42. Ivan Says:

      Recall that Lenin has been operating outside the Russian Empire while building his cadre of professional revolutionaries; Ayatollah Khomeini was in exile in France before he came to power in Iran after the Islamic Revolution.

    43. Igor Alexander Says:

      “Despite having even less charisma than Kevin Strom…”

      Yup, he definitely lacks the charisma that’s needed to be the spokesman of such a party. If he doesn’t have the humility to acknowledge that, his efforts are probably not worth supporting.

      I figured he was just filling in the role until someone more suitable (like a Jesse Ventura) came along, but I guess not.

      And I did notice the similarity of the A3P to National Vanguard. I think there’s room for that kind of organization as long as it’s run by mature and ethical people.

    44. New America Says:

      in reply to Institutional Memory:

      you wrote:
      Did you say “shades of the National Alliance?” Did you watch the A3P recruiting video? William Johnson is Kevin Alfred Strom with a law degree and a nice, friendly sweater. He speaks with a weak, nasal voice and cites nineteenth century poetry to make his points. Is this the best we can do?

      in reply:
      The National Alliance failed because, in part, Pierce never wanted to be successful as a political entity; Pierce sought to form an Elite, a “Vanguard,” if you will, to help lead the Race forward, transforming the Society around it.

      If Johnson is “Kevin Alfred Strom with a law degree and a nice, friendly sweater,” well, so much the better, particularly compared to those who have self-identified as “White Nationalists” in the eyes of the System Media.

      Is Johnson “the best we can do?”

      Yes.

      This IS the best we can do, and we should be grateful that SOMEONE who does not wear a brownshirt/red swastika armband or is on a medication schedule is willing to speak intelligently on the greatest issues we face, without fear or favor.

      If someone thinks we have someone who can do better, and is willing to do so, where are they?

      That one flame, no matter how small, that one good deed, no matter how small, is far greater than a thousand good intentions.

      you wrote:
      This A3P project, and the Golden State Party before it, is, in effect, the new west coast National Alliance. Amazingly, several of the principals in this new group speak of their connections to the NA and Strom’s National Vanguard as though that qualifies them to lead.

      in reply:
      It shows they have what in the old days was called “Movement Cred.”

      Do such connections “qualify them to lead?”

      No.

      It doesn’t DISQUALIFY them, either, by a long damn shot.

      If they speak of being the heirs to the Ideas and Ideals of William Luther Pierce, and Kevin Alfred Strom, so much the better.

      you wrote:
      Bill Johnson has been in the “movement,” talking about the same failed election strategy for years. Kevin MacDonald was specifically warned about this guy. The good professor will eventually regret putting his name on the A3P project. MacDonald will be used as a fund-raising prop to generate publicity and movement donations. Nothing more.

      in reply:
      When I think of “failed election strateg(ies),” I think of Lincoln, more than a century ago, or Barry Goldater, in the last century.

      Goldwater failed; the seeds he planted were nurtured and harvested by those whose political will ended with the successful election of Reagan.

      Of course, as a Harold Covington supporter, I think they are thinking too small, but AT LEAST they are thinking in the right direction, and, in time, pehaps, the seeds they are laying will become A Might Fortress, our White Homeland, a Northwest Republic.

      you wrote:
      While it is true, William Johnson knew Dr. Pierce personally and has supported the NA financially on-and-off since the mid-1980’s, no one in the NA ever took him seriously. I think Will Williams can speak to this if he is still around. Because of Johnson’s political ambitions, Dr. Pierce was generally dismissive of him. Pierce did, however, usually accept Johnson’s phone calls and as far as I know, he always cashed Johnson’s checks.

      in reply:
      My opinions concerning the political effectiveness of Dr. Pierce’s Dream for the National Alliance are a matter of record.

      Remember, my support for A3P is based on the painfully gained experience of Dr. David Duke, who told us to get involved in local political parties, attend the free workshops they offer to those who want to learn the nuts and bolts of political organization, and develop ourselves IN the System, until we have the opportunity to Do Better.

      A3P offers us the opportunity to Do Better, unencumbered by the barnacles, jetsam and flotsam that has dragged down the political parties.

      Think of Reagan as being Goldwater 2.0, without the deadwood, deadweight, barnacles, jetsam and flotsam that dragged the Goldwater Presidency into bitter defeat.

      THAT, in microcosm, is what A3P might be able to offer us.

      you wrote:
      Despite having even less charisma than Kevin Strom, Bill Johnson has had this “dream” of White Nationalists being elected to power for most of his life.

      in reply:
      “Charisma” might – MIGHT – get you elected, once.

      The painfully gained ability to govern is what wins first prize.

      I’ve never looked to Kevin Alfred Strom for charisma, but only – ONLY – as a source of great ideas, and intelligent, well thought out analysis, of the situation in which we find ourselves as a People – as a Race.

      You keep comparing Johnson to Strom, and my comments concerning Kevon Alfred Strom are a matter of common knowledge here.

      I think the analogy is poor; Strom leads with better ideas, and a better quality of thought on the issues we face.

      Kevin Alfred Strom is NOT a politician, and he has never claimed to be, or to want to be, a politician.

      Kevin Alfred Strom’s high caliber of commentary and analysis will guide the politicians, and help groom the statesmen, of our Race.

      Johnson can work with that, and I’ll settle for that.

      you wrote:
      To his credit, Dr. Pierce tried to dissuade members from this course, but Johnson has repeatedly tried his hand at electoral politics over the past 20 years in a number of states. And he has spent hundreds of thousands of his own and other people’s money trying to get elected. As far as I know, Johnson has never gotten more than a fraction of a percent of the vote in races in Wyoming, Arizona and California since around 1989.

      in reply:
      All of which is true, and none of which matters, except for this:

      Why did Pierce discourage his followers from becoming knowledgeable in the real world of how political power works?

      Why wait for Pierce to give his Children the right to grow up, and possibly grow beyond him, in terms of political effectiveness?

      Pierce spoke of what were, at best, half-measures; getting our own media, for example.

      “Okay, Bill, NOW What?”

      To pretend that the extant political system does not exist, when it has all of the power and all of the training opportunities in the creation, transformation, and effective USE of political power is to choose the impotence of the Pure, the learned helplessness of the professional victim who complains that the field of combat is not quite good enough for him to take – yet.

      The Path To Power – political effectiveness – requires knowing HOW the bureaucracies work, how The System REALLY works, and how to make it work better.

      in reply:
      Once Johnson realized the Pierce-run NA was not going to support him as a candidate, he gradually backed away from the Alliance.

      in reply:
      Look at the vast number of people who were attracted to the National Alliance by Pierce’s ADV’s, and “gradually backed away.”

      I suspect Johnston saw something that told him that Hillsboro, West Virginia, would not be very effective – for whatever reason – he did what so many others have done about the National Alliance, and “gradually backed away.”

      Be Honest – look at the current NA membership, and ask yourself if you wanted to be in a room with them, or does the phrase “Incompetent Males” REALLY come to mind when you see them?

      NO WONDER Johnson, and so many other good people, “gradually backed away.”

      And they STAYED AWAY, too!

      you wrote:
      Then, around 2004, Shaun Walker began talking about getting Alliance members to consider running for office and Johnson renewed his NA membership. He began donating about a hundred bucks a month. Once again, the NA cashed his checks, but otherwise ignored him.

      in reply:
      I suspect there is a bit more to the story than that, but, my, hasn’t Shaun Walker been so successful at recruiting and training a new political cadre?

      Well, no, he hasn’t.

      Quite the contrary.

      The Way has been correctly defined by Dr. David Duke – the local political parties offer FREE training in developing and financing political campaigns.

      All we have to do is walk uo to the door and knock, and it will be answered.

      Or, we can have the pathetic fantasies of pathetic people to lead us to, frankly, where we are now.

      you wrote:
      In 2005, Johnson supposedly showed up at the David Duke homecoming event in New Orleans. No one seems to remember him there.

      in reply:
      Of course not.

      The center of attention was Dr. Duke.

      Ask anyone who WAS there, who ELSE was there, and you will get many lists, none guaranteed accurate.

      you wrote:
      In 2006, Johnson joined the short-lived National Vanguard, where he also donated about $100 a month. He offered Strom’s new organization legal help but I doubt he actually provided any.

      in reply:
      “$100 a month” is about “$100 a month” more than most of us donate to anyone.

      Perhaps he provided such legal help as Kevin Alfred Strom required, which, for the National Vanguard, seems to have been precious little.

      you wrote:
      By 2006 Strom needed criminal lawyers not corporate counsel.

      in reply:
      My position on all of this has been made clear on VNN, and I suspect Kevin Alfred Strom might have a few words to say since his release.

      There IS a lesson in Organizational Design from all of this.

      you wrote:
      This American3P deal is just the latest iteration of William Johnson’s vain, personal political aspirations. Bill now believes if he can get his party on the ballot in California he may stand a chance of getting elected to something. He’s wrong. The system will never allow it. Of course, hundreds of new, racially-awakened folks will probably send in donations to learn this lesson all over again.

      in reply:
      If a spokesman who does something more than cloak himself in brownshirts and red swastika armbands, who speaks well, and can intelligently address issues for us, comes forward, and EVEN ONE first class person says, “He’s ON to Something,” then we will have succeeded far beyond all of the Playground Pretenders who came before him.

      GOOD!

      The Purpose Of Judaism is The Genocide of the White Race.

      We Have A Duty To Our Racial Destiny.

      Covington’s Call – a White Homeland, for OUR Posterity, in a Northwest Republic – remains the Highest and Best Hope for OUR Posterity.

      Take Control Of The Destiny That Is Rightfully Yours.

    45. Z.O.G. Says:

      So Mr. Rogers has started a new political party?

    46. half soldier Says:

      “Some carry their gun in a shoulder holster, some like to stick it in their belt, some carry two”, ” BUT ONE IS ALL YOU NEED, IF YOU KNOW HOW TO USE IT” Alan Ladds advice to Joey in the movie Shane

    47. Ein Says:

      This IS the best we can do, and we should be grateful that SOMEONE who does not wear a brownshirt/red swastika armband or is on a medication schedule is willing to speak intelligently on the greatest issues we face, without fear or favor.

      If someone thinks we have someone who can do better, and is willing to do so, where are they?

      That one flame, no matter how small, that one good deed, no matter how small, is far greater than a thousand good intentions.
      — New America
      ……………………………………….

      Yes. Or a million sniping complaints! Something is always better than nothing. And someone who’s willing to put himself on the line is deserving of respect, not abuse.

      I don’t know anything Johnson; and I haven’t the remotest idea what a “friendly sweater” is, so I can’t comment on that point, but I see nothing wrong with it. Nor with a law degree. It helps, I would think. Is this really the most awful criticism somebody can come up with? His sweater? They must be desperate! (It that the sound of petty meowing that we hear in the background?)

    48. Tim McGreen Says:

      C’mon, you know what a friendly sweater is, the kind of sweater that Perry Como, Pat Boone or Fred Rogers might wear. Could you imagine Hilter or Stalin wearing a white vest sweater under a navy blue blazer? No one would have taken them seriously. And then to complete the effect, a pair of khaki chinos and white tennis shoes or boat shoes WITH NO SOCKS.

    49. Z.O.G. Says:

      I think it’s great that Stuart Smalley started a political party. Good for him.

    50. Z.O.G. Says:

      http://thenashvilleminx.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/26407mstuart-smalley-posters.jpg

    51. Truthteller Says:

      The 3rd Position is doggy style.

    52. Tim McGreen Says:

      Dr. MacDonald ith joing a third party…And thath’s okay.

    53. Igor Alexander Says:

      “And someone who’s willing to put himself on the line is deserving of respect, not abuse.”

      First off, criticism isn’t necessarily the same thing as abuse.

      Second of all, considering this party may well end up consuming the money and energies of many more people than Mr. Rogers, er, I mean, Mr. Johnson himself, its approach should be discussed critically, rather than receive only blind cheering.

      Why would having a law degree be a major point in his favor? I’d vote for an outspoken and articulate plumber any day over a lawyer whose speeches put me to sleep. I’m more impressed that he’s been married 27 years and has 5 kids than with his law degree.

      This preoccupation with law degrees seems to confirm what Linder’s said over and over: that most WNs are just marginal conservatives, not radicals or revolutionaries.

    54. Tim McGreen Says:

      This preoccupation with law degrees seems to confirm what Linder’s said over and over: that most WNs are just marginal conservatives, not radicals or revolutionaries.

      ………………………………..

      Having a law degree would make me much less inclined to vote for a guy. Say what you want about Herbert Hoover, at least he wasn’t a lawyer or career politician. And you’re both right about the marginal conservative types who dominate the so-called WN community. A Stalinist purge will be necessary after the Revolution.

    55. Tom McReen Says:

      “A Stalinist purge will be necessary after the Revolution.”

      Your choice of words is revealing as usual. You spend a lot of time at a community you believe to be ‘so-called’ and whose members you obviously hate.

    56. New America Says:

      in reply to Igor Alexander:

      Ein wrote:
      “And someone who’s willing to put himself on the line is deserving of respect, not abuse.”

      you replied:
      First off, criticism isn’t necessarily the same thing as abuse.

      in reply:
      The fine line between abuse, criticism, and abuse masquerading as criticism must be seen in bright clarity, and the distinctive element is clarity of purpose.

      Ein meets this test, and, usually, so do you.

      you wrote:
      Second of all, considering this party may well end up consuming the money and energies of many more people than Mr. Rogers, er, I mean, Mr. Johnson himself, its approach should be discussed critically, rather than receive only blind cheering.

      in reply:
      Cheap shot, and one well beneath your usual level of discourse.

      The fact is, anyone who supports positions remotely related to the WNist positions is portrayed by the System Mediacorps as a raving loon, and, all too often, the “spokesmen’ for our position are only too glad to accommodate them.

      He dresses like respectable members of the greater community dress.

      Isn’t that MUCH better than the alternative, such as bright red t-shirts over pot bellies with swastikas on the front?

      Yes.

      you wrote:
      Why would having a law degree be a major point in his favor

      in reply:
      The law degree is the universal professional credential that can cross all class lines; it also shows the possessor can put in three years of solid, intellectual work.

      Most importantly – it is universally respected.

      Nixon had one, Clinton has one, Obama has one, you get the idea.

      you wrote:
      I’d vote for an outspoken and articulate plumber any day over a lawyer whose speeches put me to sleep. I’m more impressed that he’s been married 27 years and has 5 kids than with his law degree.

      in reply:
      The voters aren’t, and they outnumber us by a substantial margin.

      For now.

      you wrote:
      This preoccupation with law degrees seems to confirm what Linder’s said over and over: that most WNs are just marginal conservatives, not radicals or revolutionaries.

      in reply:
      Most WN’s happen to be marginal conservatives because that is where we all started out.

      We only become radical when he have no alternative.

      We only become EFFECTIVE revolutionaries when we develop a better System, such as the Northwest Republic Analytical Model.

      Have I mentioned Harold Covington tonight?

      Oh.

      The Purpose Of Judaism is The Genocide of the White Race.

      We Have A Duty To Our Racial Destiny.

      Covington’s Call – a White Homeland, for OUR Posterity, in a Northwest Republic – remains the Highest and Best Hope for OUR Posterity.

      Take Control Of The Destiny That Is Rightfully Yours.

    57. Nordlander Says:

      # A. Says:
      8 January, 2010 at 12:47 am

      Not going after the jew is failing to act. This party doesn’t go after the jew, therefore to waste your time and resources on it rather than using your time and resources to go after the jew, is to fail to act.

      Anything else I can clear up for you?

      Little blowhard amateur pretending to understand how it works.

      Kevin Macdonald is one of the foremost Jew-namers in the West. He has written the ultimate books on detailing Jewish power in the West and their work in pushing for race-mixing.

      Anything else I can clear up for you, little moron?

    58. steven clark Says:

      Reminds me of an old cartoon I saw of three guys in capes:
      ‘I favor the forces of good.’
      ‘I favor the forces of evil.’
      And I…favor the forces of moderation.’

    59. Tim McGreen Says:

      {Tom McReen Says:

      11 January, 2010 at 7:29 pm

      “A Stalinist purge will be necessary after the Revolution.”

      Your choice of words is revealing as usual. You spend a lot of time at a community you believe to be ’so-called’ and whose members you obviously hate.}

      …………………………….

      OK then, a Night of the Long Knives will be necessary after the Revolution. But Stalin’s purges got rid of a lot more riff-raff than the Nazi purges did. You won’t like reading this, but Stalin dealt with the Jews more ruthlessly and effectively than Hitler. But I guess if something doesn’t fit into your extremely narrow belief system then it just doesn’t exist, eh?

      And as far as a pro-White “community” is concerned, I’d like nothing more than to actually see one. What we have now are a bunch of isolated, powerless individuals scattered around who know the score but can’t do anything about it. And I’m afraid your reactionary/petty bourgeois mentality does not help.

    60. Tom McReen Says:

      “Stalin dealt with the Jews more ruthlessly and effectively than Hitler.”

      Stalin? The same ‘anti-semite’ who had jewish wives in a jewish system?

      “But I guess if something doesn’t fit into your extremely narrow belief system then it just doesn’t exist, eh?”

      Your belief system is the narrowest here – 90% of Whites must be purged, any WNs who are not left-wing (you said WN is a left-wing cause) must be purged and you also hate WN Christians (but not satanists or pagans). You have attacked everyone here at one time or another and only Metzger can save us.

      “And I’m afraid your reactionary/petty bourgeois mentality does not help”

      I’m afraid your marxist revolutionary ‘WNism’, divisive attacks on other ‘so-called’ WNs and sock puppet spamming doesn’t help.

    61. Tim McGreen Says:

      Stalin’s first wife was a Jewess, but she eventually got on his nerves to the point that he capped her. Stalin wanted an alliance with the Third Reich, something that permanently alienated millions of Jew communist sympathizers worldwide. The Jews never fully regained their power in the USSR after Stalin’s purges, show-trials and Non-Aggression Pact with Germany. If Barbarossa never happened, the Jews would have been finished in Russia. Let’s give credit where it’s due.

      And why are you so thin-skinned? Do you really consider an honest criticism of someone or a parody of someone’s ridiculous views an “attack”? Isn’t that how Jews react when someone criticizes them?

      Sock-puppet spamming, indeed.

    62. sean gruber Says:

      Ein says

      “Something is always better than nothing.”

      False.

      “Is this really the most awful criticism somebody can come up with? His sweater?”

      Is that really the only criticism that penetrated your skull? His sweater? Wake up!

    63. Tom McReen Says:

      “And why are you so thin-skinned?”

      Says the troll who still flames my posts when I’ve stopped caring about your ‘contributions’.

      “Do you really consider an honest criticism of someone”

      Not when it’s honest and from a WN. Injun lefties? Meh.

      “or a parody of someone’s ridiculous views an “attack”?”

      Ridiculous views? Like defending Stalin because you’re a commie that nobody here believes is WN? Like saying the holocaust may have happened, Bin Laden did 9/11, believing the government version of the Oklahoma City bombing, wanting 90% of the White race to be purged and to HURT, saying WN is a left-wing cause?

      Check out the TV thread where Parsifal-McGreen the hypocrite does attack me with his trolls with no provocation from me.

    64. Tom McReen Says:

      “Sock-puppet spamming, indeed.”

      Are you seriously denying that you use sock puppets for flaming people when everybody here knows you have done that dozens of times? That’s how jews behave.

      Dude, your handle is ‘Tim McGreen’. You are a troll.

    65. New America Says:

      in reply to sean gruber:

      you wrote:

      Ein says

      “Something is always better than nothing.”

      False.

      in reply:
      In politics, true.

      The fact is, sooner or later we must function in the word of possibilities made real, and politics requires we at least put one foot forward – one good foot, at that.

      Absent that, we shall never learn how to manage political systems, and shall rejoice in the self-selected impotence of the ideologically pure.

      Ein wrote:
      “Is this really the most awful criticism somebody can come up with? His sweater?”

      you replied:
      Is that really the only criticism that penetrated your skull? His sweater? Wake up!

      in reply:
      That was the most substantial criticism made of American3p.org.

      The rest is simply complaining that, once again, those who can’t, are jealous of those who can.

      Simple as that.

      Worst case – they are getting the best Ideas out there, and are representing us in a manner people who vote can understand, and respect.

      Best case – they are providing the intellectual ammunition we need to succeed.

      The Purpose Of Judaism is The Genocide of the White Race.

      We Have A Duty To Our Racial Destiny.

      Covington’s Call – a White Homeland, for OUR Posterity, in a Northwest Republic – remains the Highest and Best Hope for OUR Posterity.

      Take Control Of The Destiny That Is Rightfully Yours.

    66. Z.O.G. Says:

      Ridiculous views? Like defending Stalin because you’re a commie that nobody here believes is WN? Like saying the holocaust may have happened, Bin Laden did 9/11, believing the government version of the Oklahoma City bombing, wanting 90% of the White race to be purged and to HURT, saying WN is a left-wing cause?

      Don’t forget about his occasional FBI-style provocateur posts.

      ;-)

    67. Tim McGreen Says:

      ZOG, you wouldn’t know that the FBI is watching you if they stood three feet in front of you. And for you to come to the defense of a bona-fide asshole like Tom McReen? For shame.

    68. Z.O.G. Says:

      Tim McGreen/Parsifal often posts comments on the VNN blog telling people to engage in bombings of Federal buildings and assassinations of government officials.

      This is stereotypical FBI provocateur behavior.

    69. Tim McGreen Says:

      That’s right, just keep making up a bunch of false accusations like your Jew heroes do.

    70. Tim McGreen Says:

      Your Jew/Government/Right-Wing Neo-Kahn heroes, that is.

    71. Tim McGreen Says:

      Who gets you more turned on, ZOG? Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck or Rush Limbaugh?

    72. Tom McReen Says:

      “That’s right, just keep making up a bunch of false accusations like your Jew heroes do.”

      ZOG is not lying. I saw those posts. Anyone here can find them if they go back and look. More lies and double-talk from the troll.

      “Who gets you more turned on, ZOG? Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck or Rush Limbaugh?”

      Mike Jahn reverts to his usual behaviour. We had to put up with months of that shit on the forum before he got banned. He’s obsessed with Conservative TV and radio personalities.