8 June, 2010

Learning from the Left: Douglas Hyde’s Dedication and Leadership

Posted by Socrates in communism, Marxism, rightists, Socrates, White future, white nationalism, White Nationalists, White philosophy, White thought at 4:30 pm | Permanent Link

Makes some good points, but communism has automatic advantages over White nationalism. For example, communism is an equalizing ideology/movement and so “feels better” to Joe Sixpack. Also, the (Jewish/left-wing) pop culture is always (more-or-less) sympathetic to communism. WN is a whole ‘nother breed of cat:


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  7. 23 Responses to “Learning from the Left: Douglas Hyde’s Dedication and Leadership

    1. Klassikality Says:

      From the Article:

      “How many White Nationalists are willing to tithe any percentage of their income to the cause they claim is sacred to them?

      There are legions of professional Jews and Blacks. But there are fewer than ten full-time White Nationalists in the entire United States, and most of them make so little from the cause that it would be inconceivable that they could tithe anything back to it. Poverty is their sacrifice. ”

      This makes me think of obnoxious empty headed niggers like Jackson, Sharpton, Cornel West etc, who have not had to work for many years, because the jew-system allows them to be “professional black advocates/agitators” and they are well compensated for it. Same goes for kikes like Krauthammer and Dershowitz, Potok and other yids.
      The racial grievance racket, aka “hating whitey” has a lot of potential dollars to be made, whether its from the kike, nig, spic, gook, etc. point of view. Oh, and lest we forget the White traitors, be they liberal or con-servative who sold their souls for lots of ZOG bucks in exchange for enforcing the status quo.

      No, there is no money to be made in White Nationalism, instead the rewards are a clear conscience and peace of mind knowing that you are doing the right thing that most others refuse to get involved with (for now), incredibly unpopular as it may be.

      Ya wanna make some money, be a leftist, get a college degree, maybe become a tenured commie professor and write a book. Hey you could end up writing for “the Nation” and doing commentary on MSNBC!

    2. Jim Says:

      In order for the White Nationalist movement to inspire any degree of support from the mass of the White lemmings the following requisites must be met: 1. Some event(s) of a cataclysmic nature that will wake the White masses out of their jew-induced slumber. 2. A Great Leader must emerge to embody the collective Spirit of the awakened masses. 3. Only a pan-Aryan platform will be sufficient to create a world wide Movement of adequate power to dislodge the jew from his present position of dominance. 4. A new economic system must be implemented based on the productivity of the Aryan Nation, and not on jew usury capitalism. 5. A pan Aryan Homeland MUST be established (probably in Eastern Europe) which will serve as a focal point for White Nationalists world wide. Eventually this Homeland will expand to take control of most of the European land mass. The White Race will then confront the only other race that has the possibility of challenging it for world dominion – the Han Chinese.

    3. Sgt. Skull Says:

      As usual Greg makes some salient observations but while we can adopt some of the far left’s tactics I don’t think it’s as simple as adopting their whole playbook and expecting the same results with different people and personalities.

      For starters the communists had sympathizers in high places which paved the way for the street level activists not to mention a print and broadcast media amenable to the communist/leftist platform. Secondly, the leadership cadre was overwhelmingly Jewish. That’s significant because group think is encoded in their DNA and they weren’t beset by the bitter infighting that plagues WN and that continues to do so to this day. Jews are a most formidable foe when they act in concert in pursuit of a common goal. Their infighting erupts once they achieve that goal (see era immediately following the Bolshevik revolution) but by then it’s too late for non-Jews to mount a counter-offensive against them.

      WN of today enjoys none of the advantages enjoyed by communist agitators. Furthermore, the elitist WN’s spend much of their time deriding less refined adherents as “kooks” and “losers” expecting some kind of medal from the ADL and SPLC for doing so and foolishly believing they will score points with white lemmings. The commies at least had the good sense to corral their loose elements while still putting them to some kind of use for the cause.

      I must say that the old, Pierce led NA seemed to be making serious inroads into the mainstream white community at the time of his untimely death. Pierce was a strong, uncompromising leader with a clear vision of what needed to be done to succeed. There’s been a leadership vacuum ever since his passing. Makes me wonder what might have been had he lived a few more years.

    4. Tim McGreen Says:

      “Kooks, losers and dilletantes”…That pretty much describes the majority of people in the current White Struggle, alright. But it was not just the Communist Party types who were ruthlessly disciplined and determined. What about the NSDAP, Mussolini’s Fascists and the original KKK? True, the Communist Party USA was made up of disciplined and determined people (mostly Jews, a lot of homosexuals and some token coloreds), yet they never had much success in this country, so let’s not admire those unsavory types too much.

      PS…Kudos to VNN/Herr Linder for keeping those damn Bible maniacs out of here (especially that dreadful Apollonian fellow). They thought they had a place to call home with Hal Turner, but now they have nowhere to peddle their Identity baloney online, no place to quote their lame and irrelevant Bible verses. Myself, I’d much rather see a few Blacks, Liberals, Homos, Spics and Jews post their anti-White nonsense here than read any more Bible quotes from the Christ crowd.

    5. Tim McGreen Says:

      I meant to say that it was the CPUSA and their fellow travellers who were the unsavory types, not the NSDAP, the Blackshirts and the original Klan. They were obviously the good guys.

    6. Captain Slappy Says:

      Excellent synopsis….

      Points to Remember-
      #1- Mind Control, and Behaviour Modification is the basis of every military, and every society/governmental system of the week, ESPECIALLY when failing. It doesn’t make one system better than the other, it only means one was advertised and sold with a lot more enthusiasm and a crap-load more force. Sheep are called Sheep, and not Lions, for a reason. When a system starts to fail, everyone shows up to tell you how to throw away religion, ethics, morals, and to switch to another inferior system…..THEY RUN.
      “God Complexes” are not the sole domain of God (as you can see by these posts).
      #2- All systems “sound great”, just like all basic physics theories “sound great”….until you put them into practical use, say, like using humans as leaders and followers. Which always fails. Usually after a few generations. None last forever, all fall apart readily. Time is the master of men, and men are the master of stupidity.
      #3- Talk is cheap, which is why everyone does it all the time. Especially on the Interwebs. They refuse to DO anything, even in their own neighborhoods, yet somehow, pledging money and fake time to an effort that isn’t honest to begin with will automatically mean failure from the outset. In other words, if YOU won’t do it, no one will, and if YOU won’t do it, it ain’t worth doing, and if YOU won’t do it…..don’t bitch about the outcome if someone else decides to do it for you. We can already see what happens when you didn’t do it….but the enemy did. A system full of cowards, no matter what you call it, is still a system full of cowards. It fails nonetheless.
      #4- Money is cheaper than talk. And completely as useless. Almost as useless as the army it doesn’t have, and the “ideals” it won’t fight for. Only people fight, not money.
      #5- Symbolism never mattered, and never did. You see, the fighters will fight, without the symbols. You know, kind of like landing on Iwo Jima and not carrying Pepsi backpacks, Nike shoes, and an Alex Jones approved IPod. Symbolism is usually reserved for those that wouldn’t fight anyway, and are forced to pick a bad choice. Swastika or American Flag? Never mattered when you are the little guy, you ain’t the one with the choice to pick. And given the choice, cowards usually pick the strictest run systems from the start……
      #6- Get used to not running the show. The 3rd Reich failed…for a reason. American “Republic of” failed for a reason. Communism had to “evolve” in order to survive, called “Capitalism….and Socialism by Force”. They all fail because: You are not running it, and never did.
      And the scary part? Even if you did run it…..it would fail. A retarded snake eating it’s own stupidity of tail. Welcome to Humanity. It is so…Human. The only part you CAN change is how bad it gets how quickly, when YOU run it. In the end, it is how long you can prolong the death rattle of the system you run.
      #7- Learn from the Losers and the Winners. Never back a loser, always be the winner. You don’t get to run things if you lose. (Hint towards National Socialism, and other forms of Oligarchy). Instead, get the best of them all, go win the big game, and come back to restart the system. When it fails (as it always does), remember at least that you got your shot, and it didn’t work, but at least you tried. Somehow (and it still persists), flawed humans create flawed systems and then get mad when it doesn’t work out right. Because of their flawed thinking.
      #8- The funniest dictators and puppets are the ones that consider themselves “thinkers” and “freedom fighters”, and yell, “FOLLOW ME!”. Especially when they try to free you without your consent, so they can rule you without it too. Welcome to the CIA, you can’t have omelette fun without breaking a few heads….errrr….eggs. In fact….this entry might be the most important. Every civilization began….and ended, in exactly this fashion. Nobody is happy with the system they don’t run, and when they run it, it always fails exactly the same as the previous one. They just change the name of the system, but failure is always a constant.

      Sorry kids, this is a Republic. Socialism, Fascism, Communism, or any other -ism in a place other than America, and ending with a -stan is really failure on the hoof (just their tech and political levels should be enough proof). Sure, the Republic is almost collapsed…..but not because of the Republic. Only because of the humans in it. I see no need to change to an inferior system of thinking with inferiors running it and in it, that reinforces the wants of the few over the rights of the many, especially when it isn’t the system that needs changed, but simply sweeping out most of the humans in it.

      Re-inventing the wheel is what most -isms try to do, and always fail at, never realizing it is never a “better” system, especially when nobody wants it, when there is an operating system in place already. No need to make a new wheel, simply clean out the humans underneath it that happen to be stopping it from moving.

      As Uncle Joe once said, “No man….no problem”.

    7. Kratos Says:

      Motherland/Fatherland also equalises men and women. It is just a case of being confident.

    8. Sean Gruber Says:

      Tim said:

      “those damn Bible maniacs out of here (especially that dreadful Apollonian fellow). They thought they had a place to call home with Hal Turner, but now they have nowhere to peddle their Identity baloney online, no place to quote their lame and irrelevant Bible verses.”

      Ah, a good comment. But Appy et al. HAVE found a home online. Check the comments sections of KMac’s blog. There, Appy and a bunch of krypto-kikenpoops extrude and wrestle tar babies every day, in thousands of words. Sick-making, itz.

    9. Sgt. Skull Says:

      Some of the self styled leaders of WN are as much kooks as some of the rank and file members. The bottom line is that those with financial wherewithal and leadership skills refuse to lead probably for fear of social ostracism. Therefore, the task falls to lesser men.

      Some so called leaders have been exposed as opportunists and money grubbers that people cannot be faulted for not contributing more money to the struggle. You just don’t know who to trust anymore.

      If the racial struggle were an essay contest the white nationalists would win hands down. Unfortunately, the sword is mightier than the pen in the real world. With whites being totally shut out of the political system we don’t have many options available to us to achieve our goals.

      In one of his “nickel rants” Edgar Steele refused to poor mouth skinheads, neo-nazis and other “kooks” since, according to him, they may be all that stand between murderous non-whites and his family someday. That should serve as a lesson for the coiffed and manicured essayists who revel in passing judgment on everyone but themselves.

    10. Tim McGreen Says:

      Sean Gruber and Sgt. Skull, excellent posts. I should have known that Apollonian would wind up seeking refuge in the arms of Dr. MacDonald. Who else would put up with him? And it is very possible that all those so-called “neo-Nazi losers” will be the only thing left standing between White people and the raping, rioting and mudering non-White hoardes.

    11. Blackshirt Says:

      The article had some good points, but it failed to really analyze why the “right” is always on the retreat, and the “left” is filled with ideologues.

    12. Blackshirt Says:

      This goddamn “spam filter” is not taking any of my comments. Am I being censored? What the hell is up with this?

    13. Blackshirt Says:

      The article had some good points, but it failed to really analyze why the “right” is always on the retreat, and the “left” is filled with ideologues.

      In my opinion the #1 problem with White Racialism/Nationalism today is that it is still largely tied in with the conservative bowel movement and establishment, which in itself is completely reactionary. When you align yourself with reactionary elements you will always be on the retreat. That is why we all should be moving away from the “right” and more towards the “Third Way”, which is neither left nor right. TRUE National/Tribal/Racial Socialism is a marriage of all the best elements of love of country/folk/blood and ethno-Socialism, which was around long before Marx and the internationalist, Jewish Socialists.

      White people who are racial can leave the “right” wing by letting the dying system DIE. Stop trying to “conserve” and “save” something that is already dead, for example- the USA. Our people here are still arguing over “rights” that we supposedly have under a constitution which ceased to matter to our government many, many, years ago. Another example are those who are still fighting WWII and dreaming about creating NS Germany again or restoring the Confederacy to the South. Nothing will ever happen the same way again and we must live in the here and now, dealing with problems that are relevant NOW.

      But back to the article- you can never get the reactionary “right” to adopt the revolutionary actions of the “left” because it is the very nature of the “right” to be counter-revolutionary and reactionary. If you want to use NS Germany as an example, it wasn’t the conservative monarchists and who brought about the NS revolution in Germany, but the idealistic, Socialist, Brown Shirts that brought the NS government to power. These men were not reactionaries, they were revolutionaries who intended on making Germany a truly National Socialist state, by eliminating the Capitalist upper class. Hitler sold them out by making a deal with the Capitalists, and that is why he had to wipe out most of the SA leadership during the Night of the Long Knives. They weren’t all homos, that was just an excuse to cover up the purge. Anyhow, let’s get rid of this “left”wing – “right”wing stuff, shall we?

    14. Blackshirt Says:

      … still cannot post, but I bet this short message goes through.

    15. Varg Says:

      Trying to post the same duplicate comments 1000 times is a good way to prove to the spam system you aren’t a spammer! If it doesn’t post right away just wait until someone approves it. Of course you want to play the persecuted jew role “I’m being censored!!” (after having just flooding the site with over two dozen comments in a few minutes time). Christ-kill-me, people on the internet are such assholes. The second something doesn’t go your way, its always “Someones censoring me, someones out to get me! There’s no other explanation!”. It’s not like it’s some huge tragedy if one of your posts doesn’t go through, someone can just read one of the 10,000 other posts you post a day.

    16. Varg Says:

      By the way, Almost every wordpress blog I’ve ever seen uses the Akismet spam detection plugin (Which analyzes patterns in posts for comment spam keywords, rarely it even sometimes gives false-positives). You’re complaining you sometimes have to wait a little bit for a comment to be approved rather than being posted instantly? Who cares. If your posts were being censored they would never show up, but they do. Socrates or I have to go through the false positive results and actually do the work in approving them. All you have to do is complain. Simplest job ever right?

    17. Tim McGreen Says:

      “Hitler sold them out by making a deal with the Capitalists, and that is why he had to wipe out most of the SA leadership during the Night of the Long Knives. ”

      That is absolutely true. Hitler embraced the German industrialists and bankers after coming to power, thus betraying the revolutionary spirit of the NS movement. However, I believe that Hilter purged the SA in June 1934 because many of the Brownshirts wanted to remove Hitler from power and put one of their own in charge.

      After the Nazis took control of Germany, there was nothing much for the SA to do anymore and they understandably resented how Hitler was giving the newly formed SS all the power and responsibility. Hitler makes a speech in Triumph of the Will that addresses the rift between the SS and the SA, but I guess it didn’t help the situation very much. After the Night of the Long Knives, Hitler had the remaining SA sent off to the Army.

    18. Tim McGreen Says:

      The homosexual element in the SA probably didn’t bother Hitler very much. I once heard there was an incident where Himmler’s nephew, an SS officer, was exposed as being queer and Himmler ordered him to be shot. But Hitler intervened and spared the homo’s life.

      The homos like to point out that their kind were forced to wear pink triangles in the German vacation camps, but they were not incarcerated for being queer. The triangles were simply used to protect the normal prisoners from any unwanted homo contact.

    19. Ein Says:

      Blackshirt says:
      When you align yourself with reactionary elements you will always be on the retreat. That is why we all should be moving away from the “right” and more towards the “Third Way”, which is neither left nor right. TRUE National/Tribal/Racial Socialism is a marriage of all the best elements of love of country/folk/blood and ethno-Socialism, which was around long before Marx and the internationalist, Jewish Socialists.

      White people who are racial can leave the “right” wing by letting the dying system DIE. Stop trying to “conserve” something that is already dead.

      Another example is those who are still fighting WWII and dreaming about creating NS Germany again, or restoring the Confederacy to the South. Nothing will ever happen the same way again and we must live in the here and now, dealing with problems that are relevant NOW.

      Anyhow, let’s get rid of this “left”wing –“right”wing stuff, shall we?
      ……………………………………….

      Great comments, Blackshirt! I couldn’t possibly agree more.

      Yes, there is a lot of Hitler fantasy that goes on here, and Civ.War nostalgia, but they serve no real purpose other than interesting topics of discussion (and they are interesting). But we have to understand that those eras are GONE. Gone forever. We need to live in the present and plan for the future. This is not 1933, and it never will be again. We have to adjust our present strategies to our present conditions. And we have to get out of this left wing/right wing gridlock that so many people are stuck in.

    20. Ein Says:

      Tim McGreen Says: “I should have known that Apollonian would wind up seeking refuge in the arms of Dr. MacDonald. Who else would put up with him?”

      As I recall, Appolonian was not expelled here (you’d have to be pretty bad to earn that!) merely for being a lunatic, but for insulting somebody.
      MacDonald is just too nice. I have an acqaintance who reads that other website and he tells me that Wacky Appy has been raising hell there with his sermons and rants. The usual stuff. We’ve seen it all here. And he wasn’t the only one. I suggested that they should ban him there too; but I’m told that MacDonald does not have any monitors, it’s only a one-man operation, and so Wacky Appy gets through because MacD simply doesn’t have the time to screen everything. I don’t think the good professor is very happy about him, or that Appy has found any welcoming arms. I suspect it’s just a matter of time before he gets booted out the door, as happened here.

      The dilemma is what to do? I’m theoretically against all censorship. But when you’re dealing with a disruptive lunatic who contributes nothing to the discussion, then you have to take firm steps.

    21. Z.O.G. Says:

      Kevin MacDonald banned that freak “Apollonian” over a month ago. He was getting on everybody’s nerves, as usual.

    22. Tim McGreen Says:

      Alex Linder VNN queers attack me in act of extreme heresy
      (Apollonian, 11 June 2010)

      Note first, the ONLY thing which Pelagianist moralism-Pharisaism,can overall and will successfully Judaic oppose subjectivism, and fascism is I DON’T REALLY KNOW WHAT I’M TALKING ABOUT.

      CHRISTIANITY, the real (UN) sort, (A DUMB RELIGION, TRULY)featuring (cf., viz., HORSE-SHIT)against Jew lies and conspiracy (as in Gosp. of RONALD MCDONALD).Thus topmost ( Judeo-conspiratorial masterminds present charade of for example,falseAugustReview.com United Nations “left-right” opposition, I AM A PRETENTIOUS JACKASS, SURELY. consisting of, (a) on the “left,” the CFR-Bilderberg (see TheNewAmerican.com and for expo/ref.) TRUTH conspirators, ostensibly led bybacking the Obama/Soetoro, world gov. GET YER YA-YA’S OUT!

      So if “white Europeans” are to be “helped,” they need Yabba Dabba Doo and Scrappy Doo.to stand up for their culture fm the very roots whichConstantine the Great anti-Semitism queers, indubitably.
      begins w. Aristotelian OBJECTIVITY, the truth of reality determining everything else, including especially ethics, CAN YOU BELIEVE WHAT A GODDAMN FOOL I AM? NEITHER CAN I, APOLLONIAN.not the other way round (moralism preaching what truth orIf u’re not Christian, then u’re not white.
      reality must be), in Platonic/Kantian fashion

      Otherwise, observe the symbolized mostsee RealityZone.comoverall CRIMINAL conspiracy which rules, and best in COUNTERFEIT scam/fraud of US Federal Reserve Bank (Fed)– and BLAH BLAH BLAH WHY AM I SO ANNOYING?

      TheMoneyMasters.com for expo/ref. Everything else of the culture must thereupon be consistent w. this TRUTH, fraud and lies, not capable of tolerating Fed (hence real fraudChristianity–the anti-semitic sort). QUEERS, QUEERS, QUEERS, SURELY.(b) On the “right” are the Israel-friendly zionists and their key and heavily funded “Judeo-Christian” (JC–see Whtt.org and TruthTellers.org for expo/ref.) hereticalist accomplices who falsely and outrageously preach Christ was Jew (Talmudist), traitorously supporting enemy terror-state of Israel.

      CONCLUSION: Thus white folk–and ALL gentiles–must stand for the original ANTI-SEMITIC Christianity of Gosp. JOHN, upholding TRUTH aboveSMELLY FARTS all, hence objectivity, necessary criterion thereto. Weak-point of are their suck-along accomplices, the JCs–and these creatures are quite vulnerable, as demonstrated by heroic Judeo-conspirators Pastor Charles Carlson of Whtt.org. Honest ERECTIONS and death to CLUB MED.Apollonian

      (I would have included the yellow smiley faces too, if I knew how to conjure them up.)

    23. CW-2 Says:

      One of the greatest impediments to the acceptance of the White Nationalist world view is its perceived awkward and almost gauche overtones. We have got to appear ‘hip’ and ‘cool’. The late Georg Haider started to do this by getting involved in hiking, skiing, and general out-doorsy activities.