27 September, 2010

Recent Research on Individualism/Collectivism

Posted by Socrates in genetic interests, genetics, Kevin MacDonald, race science, racial differences, racial science, Socrates at 11:22 am | Permanent Link

“Collectivist cultures are associated with two genetic markers both of which make people more prone to stress in the absence of the kind of social support found in collectivist cultures.”

That’s interesting, since people from collectivist cultures are flooding into the West:

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  7. 15 Responses to “Recent Research on Individualism/Collectivism”

    1. Jim Says:

      In an ideal society you would have a balance of individualism and collectivism. In a WN Folkish State, the greater good of the racial community would always be given priority over selfish individualistic goals however, unlke jewish bolshevism, the innovative force of the individual personality would be respected and harnessed to the goal of expanding the well being of the Racial State. As Dr. McDonald points out, there is a strong genetic factor implied in this trait, which is why Russia, which is far more collectively oriented would probably be a better bet for a White Homeland than anywhere in individualistic North America. Sorry about that, Harold Covington.

    2. CW-2 Says:

      Perhaps White Nationalists have a genotype that gives rise to more collectivist behavior and outlook than is typical of average Europeans or Americans?

    3. Jim Says:

      Good observation, CW-2. Think of all the good European men with the WN genotype that were killed by the kikes in WWII.

    4. ty grant Says:

      A great example of how impulsive and uncontrollable the drive jws have in regarding themselves as the end all and be all of info=technology is on the weather channel. Here an episode during regular weather is something called “Lighingrod.” Hosted by a beautiful white woman and of course a jw, the little except brings its viewers totally useless and irrelevant facts of not so interesting weather phenomenon.. As the viewers are drawn to the jew who attempts to reveal these happening as he was the first to discover them, there is really no use for the lady.
      No doubt this situation is highly influenced by the Jew producers who the jw of the Lightningrod show is somehow related ( remember it’s all about the tribe) In addition to the absolute lack of realism of the information is without a doubt mind blowing, it is also a real good study on how they are so self obsessed and almost pee themselves for chances to use their hosts to promote themselves…

    5. ty grant Says:

      To reply on this great article makes me feel weird, yet one thing I may add to the debate regarding my white nations’ greatest product by one of the forgotten greatest Americans is the situation about the decline of Ford. In something I read about some of the greatest cars in the world and their history, a lady who had worked as an receptionist for the ford company during the 50’s was quoted as saying how during a time of great transition there was a new CEO who came on scene. She explained how the actions and behaviors of the new senior man were very disturbing… Knowing that Henry Ford was an early advocate against the parasite we now die of, it is no wonder that this situation was weird the person was probably a jew…

      The book I speak of is a very large coffee table book that encompasses either American cars or something of that nature, nevertheless the instances of Henry Ford’s Dearborn Press and the publishing of the protocols was included as well as the intense and war like attitude brought on by world Jewry/Zionists.
      However due to the jewish infiltration of Wikipedia there may or may not be any motion towards this instance but will obtain the article soon…

    6. Tim McGreen Says:

      The Chinese almost became great explorers and conquerors 600 years ago, but their Oriental lack of imagination, initiative and sense of adventure precluded them from accomplishing such lofty goals. The Oriental is nothing more than a mimic, a creature who imitates but is incapable of creating. It is for that reason that the Asiatic races will never become masters of the world. They may destroy the world through their overpopulation of it, but that is not the same thing as mastering the world. Only the White Race is capable of such an achievement.

    7. New America Says:

      in reply to Jim:

      Nice try.

      Let’s see where you went wrong.

      you wrote:
      In an ideal society you would have a balance of individualism and collectivism. In a WN Folkish State, the greater good of the racial community would always be given priority over selfish individualistic goals however, unlke jewish bolshevism, the innovative force of the individual personality would be respected and harnessed to the goal of expanding the well being of the Racial State. As Dr. McDonald points out, there is a strong genetic factor implied in this trait, which is why Russia, which is far more collectively oriented would probably be a better bet for a White Homeland than anywhere in individualistic North America. Sorry about that, Harold Covington.

      in reply:
      The Northwest Republic Analytical Model addresses all repeat all legitimate concerns about the survival and progress of the White Race, and the best way to insure that survival and progress only develops in one line – a straight line that will lead straight up.

      The Northwest Republic Analytical Model – “the best place, for the White Race” – is so substantial that its opponents MUST attack it at all palces, and at all times, as best they can, for one simple reason:

      Once the White Race believes – once we KNOW, in our hearts – that something is possible, we can make it probable, and then make it the New Reality.

      Covington’s latest RFN broadcast lays out all of the objections to the Northwest Republic Analytical Model, and demolishes them, systematically, and always asks The Question his critics are never prepared to answer:

      “What do you propose that’s better, and what makes it so?”

      LISTEN to Covington’s address, available on the NR blog, and ask yourself what it is that this man is saying that so terrifies me?

      It’s simple.

      It’s The Call to Racial Greatness In The Fulfillment of Your Racial Duty.

      Horus the Avanger, from the White Rabbit radio site, used a telling phrase in one of his first shows, “The Consensus Trance.”

      THAT is the cultural illusion we are all acting under, the belief that somehow, it can all be made right again, if we just tell our Minds to ignore what our Senses are clearly trying to tell us is going on.

      THAT is why people move to Boise to get away from multiculturalism, and then seek to add a multicultural component to public life – more of what they tried to get away from.

      Talk about an inversion of values and morality!

      Fortunately, while a “New Civilization” just might develop in Russia – along the lines mentioned by the American mystic, Edgar Cayce – it is no less true that we can make a much better “New Civilization” right where we are, when we realize that what we call The Culture is dying – outwardly, it seems to be nothing more that a few rotting limbs on an otherwise substantial tree, while inwardly, the tree is rotten to the core, and will not be able to stand the forces that are arrayed against it.

      Yesterday is OVER, Ozzie and Harriet are dead, and Something Better is being called forth to replace them.

      Something Better has a much better chance as part of the Living Foundation of a Northwest Republic, than anywhere else on the planet.

      For why, listen to Covington’s latest podcast.

      Or, just take the Blue Pill, and go back to Sleep.

      New America

    8. Jim Says:

      New America; I listen to Covington’s podcasts and I agree with much of what he says, but as I have stated many times before, it would be SUICIDAL AT THIS TIME to try to establish a White Nationalist enclave in the Northwest or anywhere else on ZOG’s territory. Look at Ruby Ridge, look at the Branch Dravidians, look at what happened to Aryan Nations, look how they framed Edgar Steele. If anyone thinks that this damn jewish White genocide machine that masquerades as the US Govt would allow such an enclave to exist even for one week should have his head examined. Until such a time as the current jew system collapses, it is best for White Nationalists to be disbursed in many locations. Harold Covington may be sincere in his vision for a White Homeland in the Pacific Northwest, but he is naive if he thinks that there is a snow balls chance in hell for it to be realized before the final Gotterdammerung of ZOG.

    9. Tim McGreen Says:

      I’m going to move to the Barker Ranch in Death Valley and wait for Helter Skelter.

    10. New America Says:

      in thoughtful reply to Jim:

      you wrote:

      New America; I listen to Covington’s podcasts and I agree with much of what he says, but as I have stated many times before, it would be SUICIDAL AT THIS TIME to try to establish a White Nationalist enclave in the Northwest or anywhere else on ZOG’s territory. Look at Ruby Ridge, look at the Branch Dravidians, look at what happened to Aryan Nations, look how they framed Edgar Steele. If anyone thinks that this damn jewish White genocide machine that masquerades as the US Govt would allow such an enclave to exist even for one week should have his head examined. Until such a time as the current jew system collapses, it is best for White Nationalists to be disbursed in many locations. Harold Covington may be sincere in his vision for a White Homeland in the Pacific Northwest, but he is naive if he thinks that there is a snow balls chance in hell for it to be realized before the final Gotterdammerung of ZOG.

      in reply:
      Thank you for clearing up a misunderstanding on my part, due to a lack of clarity, on my part.

      You are right – it WOULD be – literally – ” it would be SUICIDAL AT THIS TIME to try to establish a White Nationalist enclave in the Northwest or anywhere else on ZOG’s territory.”

      That is not what is being proposed.

      We are not talking about “enclaves”; as Covington made clear, the example of Pastor Butler, as well as the examples you mention, make such things impossible, and, fortunately, they are unnecessary – and THAT is why Covington speaks so well against the folly they symbolize, the folly of mindless Retreat, from untenable situations, into a failed model of White Racial Organization.

      Covington speaks of forming a New Nation – and a nation is simply a (very large) extended Family, with their genes in common, commonly united in what those genes allow them – repeat – ALLOW THEM – to Do, and to Become.

      The Roman Army succeded because of the mindset of the Centurion – one soldier, one Warrior, who so internalized the values and doctrines of the Legion, that, if all other members of the Legion were destroyed, he – ALONE – could be the Living Foundation of the reconstitution of the Roman Legion.

      He – ALONE – could recruit, train, lead by example, and Create a new Legion to replace the one that had fallen, SOLELY by his personal example, of who we Was, seen in what he Did.

      Pierce spoke, correctly, of the need for a Racial Vanguard, hoping for THREE PERCENT of the White Race to choose to join this self-chosen Elite.

      Pierce did not take the next step to make this happen – a tiered political organization – and more’s the pity, for this Elite could form the Founding Aristocracy of a New Nation, starting where they were, starting with their daily choices.

      THAT is what Covington (wisely) seeks – better people, harnessed to the greatest of all Causes, by their daily thoughts, words and deeds. In time, they wil come to be the Living Foundation of a Northwest Republic.

      You don’t have to leave for the Northwest today.

      Simply better yourself, starting where you are, on a daily basis, and, when the time is right, you will hear The Call of the fulfillment of YOUR Duty in a Racial Destiny. Perhaps you will hear it when you see your block can not be saved from the tide of Evil that is carried in the hearts and souls of your multicultural neighbors, and realize that NOW is the time for you to abandon what can not worwk, and move to what can work, and work out best, for you, your organic Family, your Race.

      Perhaps you might want to start where you are – a very good place to start! – tonight, by writing a letter to yourself thirty years from now, laying out what happened to you that led to the moment you heard The Call, and followed it. Discuss this in terms of children you have, or might have, and the rest of your Posterity. Think of your girlfriend, your wife, and what this could mean to them.

      One final thought, for the moment.

      Michael O’Meara wrote a recent piece on the Race, and he used ONE CONCEPT to define us:

      BETTER

      Where we go, things are made better; when we leave, things fall apart.

      Perhaps, when you write this letter, you might want to consider what BETTER might look like to you, today, and thirty years from now.

      First paragraph – thirty years from now, when you opened your eyes in the morning, what does it look like where you would be living?

      Start where you are.

      Start NOW.

    11. Antagonistes Says:

      Actually, corporations are doing their best to do away with individualism, and to turn employees into monkeys capable only of “following the process.”

      When I worked on electronic office equipment, for an international company, I liked it a lot–until I found out that they were putting the stopwatch on me. Later, they came up with standardized procedures, that we were supposed to follow. That was when I looked for the exit.

      My wife works for a large, well-known corporation. They are trying to “come up with a process” for everything, and have spent millions doing so. Once this is done, if it is indeed possible, employees will be turned into monkeys, following the laid-out process, and not daring to individually deviate from it.

      BIG STAGE CORPORATE CAPITALISM IS ANTI-ARYAN.

    12. New America Says:

      in reply to Antagonistes:

      you wrote:

      Actually, corporations are doing their best to do away with individualism, and to turn employees into monkeys capable only of “following the process.”

      When I worked on electronic office equipment, for an international company, I liked it a lot–until I found out that they were putting the stopwatch on me. Later, they came up with standardized procedures, that we were supposed to follow. That was when I looked for the exit.

      My wife works for a large, well-known corporation. They are trying to “come up with a process” for everything, and have spent millions doing so. Once this is done, if it is indeed possible, employees will be turned into monkeys, following the laid-out process, and not daring to individually deviate from it.

      BIG STAGE CORPORATE CAPITALISM IS ANTI-ARYAN.

      in reply:
      I remember when the currently fashionable management fad was Business Reengineering, and saw how the people handling billing for QUEST worked hard to make this happen, and then were amazed as their jobs went away soon afterwards.

      People really underestimate what is coming in terms of greater “efficiencies” across all business; even automation is finally achieving the promises it made, and the rate of change is increasing.

      All of which ties in to two concepts that are relevant to the Race:

      One, “free markets” – and businesses are simply transformational systems for resources – move relentlessly to commoditize everything htey touch.

      Two, this reduces the purchase criteria to one – price – and drives the race to the bottom for economies, and the people who live in them.

      Whatever can be digitized will be commoditized, and whatever can be digitized AND commoditized will move to Banagalore, and Shanghai, at the speed of light.

      With it goes the local economy, and then, the regional economy.

      Corporate “capitalism” – the system we nominally have in place – IS inherently “anti-aryan,” as it is inherently anti-human, and reduces all who are trapped in it to the material definition of what they are, and what they could be.

      This must be fought as best you can, with local, economically resilient economies supplanting the monolithic corporations that rule our lives.

      This is why I repeated ask all of the critics of Harold Covington to look at what they propse, as an alternative, and ask them to write out a letter to their future Posterity, thirty yeares hence, defining the issues they saw before them, how they saw these issue unfolding, and what they did to become the Living Foundation of a New Nation, based in a WHITE Homeland.

      All of those people who did billing for QUEST have discovered what they were truly worth, as seen by the souless, eternal entity that took the substance of their life, reduced it to a business process, and them to mere commodities.

      A new economic system is long overdue.

      A new country, as a new WHITE Homeland, is also long overdue.

      What do you want to do about it, that would make your Posterity proud of you?

      What are you doing TODAY to make that happen?

      WE KNOW that what THEY are doing to US is evil – and thus, inherently anti-Aryan.

      What do you want to DO about it?

      My Solution is to define the work of your life into the highest porrible terms, and the Thirty Year Letter helps you to frame the issues in those terms. The Letter can be as little as one sentnece – “I DId Nothing!” – or as long as a book.

      My Letter begins like this:

      “Today, I watched Mankind’s first starship take off from the Spaceport outside Kalispell. I watched it live, with my Posterity, from the William Luther Pierce Memorial Chapel at the Sandpoint Military Academy.”

      It goes on from there.

      It’s time to Grow Up, and face the future we CHOOSE to help Create.

      NO ONE is coming to save us; not Sky God Rockwell, not Sky God Pierce, not Sky God Uncle Adolf, NO ONE is coming to help us.

      And THAT realization is the beginning to the path to personal greatness, and political power.

      http://www.nationalsalvation.net

    13. Tim McGreen Says:

      A starship would have to be constructed in space and launched from an orbiting space-platform; it would not take off from the W.L. Pierce Memorial Parking Garage in Kalamazoo.

    14. Antagonistes Says:

      ” . . . took the substance of their life and reduced it to a business process . . .”

      Well said, New America.

    15. New America Says:

      in reply to Antagonistes:

      you said:

      ” . . . took the substance of their life and reduced it to a business process . . .”

      Well said, New America.

      in reply:
      Thanks, but the question remains, “What can we DO about it?”

      When you play THEIR Game, by THEIR Rules, THEY always win.

      Hence, the need for a new Game, one played by cosmic Rules, linked to the unique Destiny of the Race.

      Hence, Harold Covington, and the Northwest Republic Analytical Model.

      This is why no one – NO ONE – ever took me up on my offer that they lay out their life thirty years from now, and how we got from here to there, and what they DID about it.

      In politics, things can change very quickly, indeed.

      Look at the political, economic and demographic surveys of Great Britain a mere thirty years ago.

      Look at Fair Albion TODAY.

      Enoch Powell proved prescient, and the children of the Sons of Albion are doomed to sad, miserable lives in a Third World country, with Londonistan as its capital.

      Follow my reasoning – from turning their lives to business processes, and turning the business process into a commodity; the lowest cost producer negates the value of their lives entirely.

      Note that this process is inherently collectivist, and inherently Asiatic.

      What then?

      See America as one Cultural Moment in the history of the White Race, and that Race’s unique contribution to Mankind – Western Civilization, and a people who came from the Earth, whose Posterity will one day walk Among The Stars.

      If the Children of the Sixties decided it best that America commit suicide, a topic addresed at legth by James Burnham, what remains?

      The answer is simple.

      BETTER.

      Do Better, starting where you are, in the framework of a White Homeland, a Northwest Republic.

      In the alternative, explain to your grandchildren why they have been the victims of human sacrifice, in the name of the false temporal God of Equalitarianism.

      Explain to them why they are the laughingstock of the best of the rest of the world, and what your choices were in making that happen…

      Or not.

      http://www.nationalsalvation.net