19 February, 2011

On the Need for Ideological Politics

Posted by Socrates in Alex Linder, Socrates, white nationalism, White Nationalists, White philosophy, White thought at 3:42 pm | Permanent Link

by Alex Linder.


“Even though he personally liked her, the minute the jew found out she was part of the hated other, he never spoke to her again. That is awesomely impressive. But the conservatives, even most WN, will simply find it inhuman and unthinkable. Well, my friend. That is why jews are running the world, and we’re running our mouths.”

[VNN Forum Thread].

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  7. 37 Responses to “On the Need for Ideological Politics”

    1. Virgil Says:

      Growing polarization is the key; waiting for the spark!

    2. Antagonistes Says:

      I am beginning to think that AmRen is controlled by Jews.

      Everytime I write in with anything criticizing the Jews, it does not get printed.

      The last post was in response to someone praising the “high IQ of Ashkenazi Jews” (which happen quite often on AmRen). I merely wrote in and said that Jews, as a nation, were very far down on the PISA reading scores–

      This did not get posted.

      You would think that if Jews were so smart, then a nation of Jews would be going gangbusters. Not the case.

      As far as Ed Asner not even speaking to the starlet again because of her politics–my gut reaction is “childish.” I think it could be handled in a better way.

      This childish-type reaction is what those union people in Wisonsin are engaging in, wanting everything to be their way, and throwing a tantrum when asked to make the smallest concession. It is disgraceful.

    3. Tim McGreen Says:

      Well, just look at how much the Bolsheviks put up with before they finally won. I certainly don’t agree with anything the Bolsheviks stood for, but they were fucking relentless and uncompromising, despite the Okhrana, the Gendarmes, the Cossacks, the Tsar, Kerensky, the Mensheviks, infiltrators, double-agents, Siberian exile, etc. constantly getting in their way. If only we had a White Resistance Front that was as tenacious, well-organized and ruthlessly ideological as the Bolsheviks were, then we’d be getting somewhere.

    4. CW-2 Says:

      The present WN movement is weak in philosophy and fundamental principals, but that deficiency was addressed back in 1949 by Francis Parker Yockey with his Proclamation of London. It is a bit wordy and wandering but with some editing could serve as one of our seminal documents.
      As Dr Pierce said in many of his broadcasts, our task now is to present the truth and explain our position to those 10% of Whites who are willing to listen to reason. That is the best we can hope for, meanwhile the cadre of totally uncompromising true believers should concentrate on realistic plans of ‘action’. If even our most committed people appear to be suffering from paralysis of the will, it is because we, both individually and collectively, haven’t yet crossed the psychological Rubicon. We are desperately trying to avoid crossing the line because we know it won’t be pretty and once down that road there will be no turning back. It may well be our one shot at the ball and we don’t want to fluff the play due to inexperience or lack of resources.
      Rest assured the crisis will come. The jews and their globalist facilitators are determined on pushing through their one world plan and their impatience is starting to show. Let’s be ready to kick their ass.

    5. Jürgen Says:

      TIM McGREEN:

      Exactly. How could anyone have said it better?
      Let’s do just that!

    6. Jim Says:

      It is useless to expect any real White insurgence until things get so bad that the veneer of the jewish lie machine masking as “democracy” TOTALLY collapses. At that time the Law of the Jungle will again become the standard that will determine which races live and which races perish. The men of the White Race have been growing softer with each generation for the last fifty years at least. The ideology of the coming White Revolution will be determined by the course of the struggle itself, not the other way around. Our future Leaders will be forged in the fierce fires of the struggles that are to come. Nothing that is weak, degenerate, stupid, or cowardly will be allowed to survive. THE RACE THAT OVERCOMES THE JEWISH POWER WILL EMERGE TRIUMPHANT AND ATTAIN MASTERY OF THE WORLD.

    7. Dave Says:

      Wow Jim. I just wrote the same thing. The post didn’t go through though. However. You worded it much better than I did.

    8. Howdy Doody Says:

      The men of the White Race have been growing softer with each generation for the last fifty years at least.


      Jim, do you thing any has noticed ?

      All the some what able bodied Whites are serving in the military and Pretorian Regime Guards.

      Only a small percentage of Able fit bodied men do see working blue collar.

      Look in the Grocery and I see too many Scooter riders, and big Fat slobs or Vacant looks from Drugs/ignorance/evanjellyism types.

      Bottom line Jim I think your 99% most likely right in the end.

      If The Asiatic’s do take US I only can hope they wipe out the eternal enemy aliens the West.

    9. Howdy Doody Says:

      Jim, do you think any one has noticed ? LOL.

    10. Howdy Doody Says:


      Lennin himself stated that if 100 of Nicky’s Royal Guards had fought to the man, and NOT surrendered with out a fight! “GAVE UP HOPE” That then their Jacob Sheift paid for with Trotsky as bag man enabling the criminal Assault on RUSSIA with the Filthy drunnkard King Edward not helping his first cousin, but giving the THUMBS Down to let him and his family be humilated,slaughter murdered and RAPED!

      That crime has brouht US this day.

    11. Howdy Doody Says:

      If the Czar’s guards had fought to the man, the criminals would not have siezed Russia for Rape and Pillage by London and NYC.

    12. CW-2 Says:

      Jim hit the nail. It appears we are in a three horse race, namely ourselves, China, and the mudslim world locked in combat while big jew looks on rubbing his hands and waiting for the dust to settle. We are in a weak third place caught between the jew promoted population explosion of the mud world and the jew backed massive transfer of our technology to Asia.

    13. Sean Gruber Says:

      Antagonistes said:

      “As far as Ed Asner not even speaking to the starlet again because of her politics–my gut reaction is ‘childish.’ I think it could be handled in a better way. This childish-type reaction is what those union people in Wisonsin [sic] are engaging in.”

      Massively missing the point.

      Linder’s point is, this attitude wins. Whites have been losing, because we’re Nice Guys who Abhor “Childishness” and are for Fairness. That’s the way to go down the chute, as history shows.

      We must be meaner. Nastier. More vicious. In other words, we must take our survival seriously – more seriously than we currently take our commitment to abstract ideals like Fairness and Good Sportsmanship.

      The reductio ad absurdism of the Good Sportsmanship and Kind Mature Behavior kick is provided by an old James Bond film, in which Bond, on a deserted island with the evil villain, is challenged to a duel at 30 paces. The villain, of course, is an untrustworthy liar, but Bond nevertheless counts off all 30 paces. He should have turned around on step one and blown the villain away. But that wouldn’t be the behavior of a Gentleman, would it? (The screenwriter was so moronic that the villain, too, counted out the full number of paces.)

      Our code of behavior should be this:

      Good behavior toward those INSIDE the race – total hostility and war toward those OUTSIDE the race.

      This is the policy of every upcoming, growing, fighting, successful race. Hell, it’s policy of EVERY race, regardless…except the sick, weak, dying, failing White race, in love with Jeboo and Fair Play.

      I’m sure Jews appreciate your gentlemanly demeanor, Antagonistes, while they’re fucking you in the asshole and laughing their heads off.

    14. Sean Gruber Says:

      I personally have found that the best way to deal with jews who give you any trouble – even the slightest – is total hostility. It’s like a “shit test” with women. Give ’em shit back.

      I mean get in their face. Say “fuck you” and mean it.

      It’s like the swift kick in the face of a shark. It’s the only thing that pushes them away for a moment.

      Of course, we all know the ultimate solution. Extermination of the jew pest.

      This solution, though, won’t be put into effect by men afraid to defriend someone because it’s “childish.”

    15. Antagonistes Says:

      Herr Gruber: It does not matter. The power-players, of all races, do indeed already act the way that you indicate. I am not one of them.

      There is a book called “The Handbook of Managerial Techniques” by Dick Buskirk. It tells about the ways that the “power players” do each other in, and none of them are as petty and vindictive as what Asner did. These techniques are smooth, seemingly-effortless, even seemingly-friendly, but they are in dead earnest.

      So, while I am saying that there are other ways to ostracize someone, perhaps I should instead praise Asner for his directness and honesty.

    16. old dutch Says:

      LOL. I’m tempted to take a ride out to Kirksville, and ask around, and see if anyone in Kirksville ever heard of Alex Linder?

      Not that I don’t agree with most of what Alex writes about race hustlers like Jared Taylor, or Irish Catholic blowhards like Paddy O’ Buchanan. But, it would be interesting to see if Alex practices what he preaches, and how well known he is in the metropolis of Kirksville, MO 63501?

      Personally, I think the biggest thing lacking in the White political scene are people with a work ethic, and the ability to translate their bluster into concrete political action.

      I was impressed with something that Johnson of the A3P did recently. Johnson went to a political reception, and told the politicians he met, that he was interested in “White people”, and, what the politician was doing to help “White people”. This is practical lobbying & practical politics. You can be sure at the same event the same politicians were appoached by a score of Jews saying, “that they were interested in Israel”. That’s the way it is. It was amusing the number of “oh-awe” and “you are going to end up in a fema camp” type comments that the politically naive made after reading about Johnson’s run of the political mill action.

      Alex, I will be glad to come, and help you review your stormtroops when they march down the Linder Strasse in Kirksville MO 63501

      Your long time reader.

      Btw, did you see this?

    17. Thom McQueen Says:

      That does it! Antagonistes and Old Dutche must be shunned! WE will pracice what we preach, by god!

      If I see you on the street, I am putting my foot up your asses! Ant, you probably look like Sam Waterston. Old Dutche, you probably look like Pat Buchanon. I am looking for you both. Beware. I probably should not have told you, but I am a gentleman, and beleive in fair warnings.

      We will fatwa you, and make you incognito, you James Bond- like wimps!

    18. Tim McGreen Says:

      A “James Bond wimp” ? Those Bond villains kick ass, especially when they’re wearing their Nehru suits. And they were all very White, you know. They looked like former Wehrmacht officers, which is as cool as it gets.




    19. Bret Ludwig Says:

      I missed the Asner thing. Can you provide a link to the source on this?

      The Asners were from Kansas City. Asner Iron and Metal is still a big scrap dealer out here. One of Ed’s brothers ran a record store called Capers Corner for decades. (Robert Fripp played in the foyer once.) The bathroom rivalled CBGBs for filthiness (they say: I never set foot in CBs: I rarely visit Hymietown) and largely because Ben Asner, bro of Ed, now deceased, had a spastic colon.

      One time Ed and the manager that did all the work were at the front counter and Ed shifted around. The manager must have known what was up since he deftly produced a Ronson lighter and lit it about a foot from old Asner’s ass. Sure enough Asner let out a bad order and WHOOOOMP! it lit off with a huge orange flame. Asner turned around slowly to see WTF happened and by the time the slow moving old Jew got his head around the manager had defty pocketed the lighter. About four or five people were watching and not one said a damn thing. To this day it’s still talked of by record collectors in Kansas city and indeed as far away as Seattle. It was the coolest piece of rock and roll history I ever personally witnessed.

    20. Tim McGreen Says:

      Bret, you are a consummate raconteur….NOT!

    21. Tim McGreen Says:

      OK, I’ll try again. The filter is chewing up some of my posts, but I am indefatigable…

      “James Bond-like wimps”, you say? I think the villains in those JB movies were pretty cool. And they were also very, very White! Perhaps that’s why they were cast as the “bad guys”?




    22. j h c thoze g d f screaming me-me busybodies Says:

      If your child is abused”by” attending public school. Have them raise their hand & say to the class. Teacher i heard that someone heard that they heard. If any negro like ” O ” as seen on TV, take a good look. Take away every created technology invention that Aryans are responsible for here in America & abroad. She or he would be sitting on dirt wearing their birthday suit.

    23. Thom McQueen Says:

      Alright, Antagonistes, I just kicked your ass! At least I hope that was you.
      It was what i think you would look like.

      Stop being cozypals to the Jews or you get it again!

      Old Dutch, I am looking for you next. Unless you start shunning those who disagree with us, getting in their faces and giving them shark kicks.

    24. Tim McGreen Says:

      Thom, if you want to kick Old Dutch in the ass:

      1) There is a six-month waiting list


      2) You’d have to deal with Phuc-Yu, Old Dutch’s Cambodian mail-order bride. Don’t let the fact that she’s 13 fool you, I’ve seen her lay out a whole bunch of stinking-drunk Scotsmen who were looking to beat up Old Dutch. “You no kick Ode Dutch’s ass. He my husband and if he die I go back to Cambodia to work in Kathy Ree Gifford sweatshop all day for 10 cents an hour. Ay-Yeee!!!!!”

    25. Antagonistes Says:

      Well, Thom, that was quite an ass-whipping.

      I am just now coming home from the hospital.

      But I have not changed my mind.

      So . . . better luck next time, ha, ha!

    26. old dutch Says:

      @ Antagonistes

      LOL. The last time “Tim”, and his sock puppet “Thom” started making threats, Linder pulled the plug on the VNN home page for a few weeks. Is that what “Tim-Thom” is trying to accomplish?

    27. Socrates Says:

      old dutch Says: “LOL. The last time “Tim”, and his sock puppet “Thom” started making threats, Linder pulled the plug on the VNN home page for a few weeks. Is that what “Tim-Thom” is trying to accomplish?”

      “Pulled the plug”? You don’t know what you’re talking about.

    28. Tim McGreen Says:

      Calm down, Old Dutch….Here, I’ve got your wife on the line.

      Ode Dutch? Ode Dutch? Why you not home? Where you at? Do you have mittens I give you with name and phone number on dem? Ode Dutch, you come home light now, I no want to go back to Cambodia. Dat Kathy Ree she one mean bitch!

    29. Olaf Gunnerson Says:

      CW-2 This is no WN “movement” just people yapping on the Internet.

    30. old dutch Says:

      @ Socrates

      Are you telling me that “Tim-Thom” does? LOL.

    31. Tim McGreen Says:

      OK, I’m adding Thom McQueen, Antagonistes and Socrates to the list for kicking Old Doofus’ ass…Looks like I’m going to need another legal pad.

    32. Antagonistes Says:

      Did I miss something? Why would I want to harm the entity known as Old Dutch? I thought he and I were on the same page on this one.

      It is the vile Thom McQueen entity who is mouthing violence, and demanding total obedience and kowtowing to the party line. It is strange for an advocate of White Nationalism to be advocating such Semitic-like behavior. As Kevin McDonald has pointed out, Semites act as a group, with a charismatic leader; Aryans act as individuals.

    33. CW-2 Says:

      Olaf, your observation maybe right. Perhaps we are expecting too much of our future leaders to form a coherent weltanschauung.

    34. old dutch Says:

      @CW-2 & Olaf

      Speaking of a weltanschauung, or worldview. The Roman Catholic worldview always has been “ultramontaine”—subservience to a foreign ethnic & religious power.

      The Jew politicians in Congress are the political prime mover, but, the Roman Catholic politicians are the pivot.

      I can’t think of an elected Roman Catholic politician in Congress who will vote against the Jew agenda.

      The sooner that’s understood, the better.

      It’s worth remembering what Archimedes said, “Give me a place to stand, and I will move the earth.”

      Bonus points: Can you think of an Irish Roman Catholic politician who isn’t a homosexual advocate?

    35. Tim McGreen Says:

      OD, you act as if Roman Catholicism was the only Christian denomination that was bad. They’re ALL bad, you fool. For example, two of the biggest tookas-kissing goy politicians are the Mormons Mitt Romney and Orin Hatch (Hatch is also a suspected homo). Please try and get a clue.

    36. CW-2 Says:

      OD, I can’t comment on the religious situation in the States but we need to distinguish between what the Christian rank and file, the average suburbanites, are thinking and the policies being followed by various Christian leaders. The two are diverging quite rapidly, and this will come as a big surprise, but many ‘conservative’ Episcopalians in the jewK are joining the Catholic church because they believe it to be more in tune with their traditional values!
      Contradictions like this will only increase as all the Churches openly give voice to the one world agenda.

    37. Tim McGreen Says:

      Of course I wasn’t around hundreds of years ago but I doubt any mainstream Christian church in the 2000 year history of Christianity EVER preached a pro-White message to its congregation. (I’m not talking about Herbert W. Armstrong’s church or Pastor Pete Peters’ Scriptures for America.) Only Mormonism had a pro-White philosophy, but that ended in 1978. And Mormons are guilty of massacring White wagon trains passing through Utah in 1857. There is simply no way a White man can be racially conscious and love the little Baby Jeezus.