26 November, 2011

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    1. Andei the Angry Ghost Says:

      As usual the pussy-church will back out…

      After uproar, Ky. church revisits interracial ban
      By DYLAN LOVAN Associated Press The Associated Press
      Friday, December 2, 2011 6:59 PM EST

      LOUISVILLE, Ky. (AP) — When Stella Harville brought her black boyfriend to her family’s all-white church in rural Kentucky, she thought nothing of it. She and Ticha Chikuni worshipped there whenever they were in town, and he even sang before the congregation during one service.

      Then in August, a member of Gulnare Free Will Baptist Church told Harville’s father that Chikuni couldn’t sing there anymore. And last Sunday, in a moment that seems from another time, church members voted 9-6 to bar mixed-race couples from joining the congregation.

      The policy has drawn a firestorm of criticism in just a few days and sent church leaders scrambling to overturn it, perhaps as early as Sunday. The executive secretary of the church’s national organization said he has been inundated with angry phone calls, and had an inch-high stack of emails printed out on his desk.

      “We are not a group of racist people,” said Keith Burden of the National Association of Free Will Baptists. “We have been labeled that obviously because of the actions of nine people.”

      The resolution approved by the Gulnare church says it does not condone interracial marriage and “parties of such marriages will not be received as members, nor will they be used in worship services and other church functions, with the exception being funerals.”

      Ballots were cast after the service, attended by about 35 to 40 people, but it wasn’t clear why so few people voted.

      The church member and former pastor who pushed for the vote, Melvin Thompson, wouldn’t tell The Associated Press why he did it.

      “I am not racist. I will tell you that. I am not prejudiced against any race of people, have never in my lifetime spoke evil” about a race, Thompson said earlier this week in a brief interview. “That’s what this is being portrayed as, but it is not.”

      Thompson stepped down as pastor earlier this year for health reasons, according to Harville’s dad, Dean Harville. He said it was Thompson who told him that Chikuni couldn’t sing at the church, a small, one-story red brick building with few windows and a white steeple.

      After giving interviews earlier this week, the church’s current pastor, Stacy Stepp, and several other church members did not return phone calls Friday. One of the members said they were shocked. Stepp said he voted against the measure and would work to overturn it.

      The national group distanced itself from the resolution in a statement Thursday, saying it “neither condemns nor disallows” interracial marriage.

      It said the church was working to reverse its policy and added, “We encourage the church to follow through with this action.”

      Harville, who is now engaged to Chikuni, said earlier this week that she felt betrayed by the church.

      “Whether they keep the vote or overturn it, it’s going to be hard for me go back there,” she told AP.

      Gulnare is a small town in Pike County, in eastern Kentucky. The county celebrates its Appalachian heritage in the spring with the Hillbilly Days Festival in downtown Pikeville, the county seat, and the Apple Blossom Festival in Elkhorn City, according to a tourism website.

      Harville is working on her master’s degree in optical engineering at an Indiana college. She met Chikuni, who is from Zimbabwe, at Georgetown College in central Kentucky.

      “It’s like we were kind of blindsided,” Harville said of the church’s action.

      More than 40 years ago, the U.S. Supreme Court knocked down a Virginia statute barring whites from marrying nonwhites, overturning bans in 15 other states. But while interracial marriages have soared since then, many churches remain largely segregated.

      Curtiss Paul DeYoung, a professor at Bethel College who has studied interracial churches, said church members opposed to a more diverse church usually just go somewhere else.

      “Rarely today do you see it so blatantly come to a vote. Usually people just leave but they don’t say much about it,” DeYoung said. “I think this is still one of the last hurdles around race for a lot of folks in this country. It’s just rarely stated this bluntly.”

      The Free Will Baptists trace their history to the 18th century. They emphasized the Arminian doctrine of free will, free grace, and free salvation, in contrast to most Baptists, who were Calvinists and believed Christ died only for those predestined to be saved.

      There are some 4,200 churches worldwide. The National Association of Free Will Baptists organized in Nashville, Tenn., in 1935 and is now based in Antioch, Tenn.

      The group said in its statement that the denomination has no official policy regarding interracial couples “because it has not been an issue.”

      Copyright 2011 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

    2. torrence Says:

      My post from yesterday:

      Having come across another article about the Kentucky Free-Will Baptist Church that banned an inter-racial couple -the event that I referenced above, I decided to forward a brief message to the Church headquarters after reading about their public contrition.

      “You should be upset that external forces are pressuring the Church on how it regulates and conducts itself. Christianity in this country has been irretrievably marginalized by the Jewish Media. The media has made a sensationalized national issue of this and you are reacting to this crushing media barrage in the manner the media masters intended.
      Time to stick to organizational resolve out of principle.”

      –send them an email. http://nafwb.org/

    3. torrence Says:

      Think honestly about this and I’m sure you’ll agree with me if you do: Believe me – Christianity in modern America is fairly weak, indecisive, morally corrupted and un-influential in our daily affairs. Some would like to think it otherwise, and, if it indeed did reflect the Bible Book of Philosophy, we would probably be better off it did exert itself. But in today’s America, to think that Christianity steers our society in one way or another is simply false. Organized religion takes orders form the government and media masters and doesn’t dare to much get in the way. They go with the flow – popularity being of pre-eminent concern – and don’t really buck the trend, but rather sanctify societal norms when they become irreversibly entrenched. When have the churches really opposed war? When have they instructed their members to refuse participation in wars? Let’s laugh together.

      The point I’m making is that some blame religion for society’s ills, whereas religion in America is a bystander that usually doesn’t wish to get involved when the going gets tough. Inter-racial marriage is a case in point.

      Christianity is often blamed for its popularity – that it promotes inter-racial unions, but this is false. C. embraces it because society embraces it. 80 years ago you wouldn’t have found many C. churches sanctifying it and if you came across one or two, they would have been small churches indeed. Other forces are at work changing society and once the lemmings in charge of much of organized religion understand what’s in demand, they give it religious respectability. That process is underway now with faggotry. Acceptance of this disease is becoming more widespread in society and consequently, religion is following the lead; not the other way around. I can’t give one example where religion in America during the past 100 years actually set policy or established societal norms. I fault them for not defiantly defending religious and moral ideals. They are too much fearful lemmings and followers, not fearless leaders. Here’s sort of a case in point:

      Interracial Couple Banned From Kentucky Church

      A Church holding a vote on this matter 80 years ago would not have been news, because they would only have been enforcing a societal norm. Today, they are at odds with a societal norm, and so come under the crushing barrage of media condemnation and possible governmental intimidation (loss of tax exemption?). Most of the members of that Church were too Jewed in soul to even stick around to cast their vote on the matter. Cowards.
      It’s always a good time to remind ourselves of the fundamentals:

      –Dr. William Pierce

      ………..not Christianity

    4. Howdy Doody Says:

      she thought nothing of it.

      That a big lie, IMO.

    5. Howdy Doody Says:

      she thought nothing of it.

      That’s a big lie, IMO.

    6. torrence Says:

      And now…….this just in:

      Australia ruling party endorses gay marriage

      I can guarantee you that the Christian churches of Australia are not pleased with this, but are powerless to do much against it as Christianity has lost its force in Western Society. In this regard Christian understanding is entirely supportive of the healthy, natural state of affairs.

      “….Neither…men dept for unnatural purposes, nor men who lie with men……..will inherit God’s Kingdom.”
      “—in the same manner as the foregoing ones had…gone out after flesh for unnatural use, are placed before us a warning example…..Yet these men are speaking abusively of all the things they really do not know; but all the things that they do understand naturally like the unreasoning animals, in these things they go on corrupting themselves.”

      We have a governmental problem primarily, not a religious one. Uncaring and morally corrupted, morally destructive governments are promoting this anti-Western thinking. Know thy enemy:

      –Dr. William Pierce

    7. Howdy Doody Says:

      Organized religion takes orders form the government and media masters and doesn’t dare to much get in the way. They go with the flow – popularity being of pre-eminent concern – and don’t really buck the trend, but rather sanctify societal norms when they become irreversibly entrenched. When have the churches really opposed war? When have they instructed their members to refuse participation in wars? Let’s laugh together.

      Evanjellyculls, are blood lusting war monger’s willfully extremely unread, and are some of the biggest wife cheating men I have ever known of too.

      They remind me of the Red Guard’s of circa 1968.

      These Idiots are two turd’s of the repukingling party, and they are all for equality and interacial blood polluting is A-okay with them too. Now if they start supporting dung mining, then the only thing left separating them from flat out communist’s will be pushing abortion.

      IMO they covet others who they fell has a nickel more than them, and love to bully if they can get away with it too IMO.

      Speaking of dung mining communist they sure have been War mongering and Silent of the Robbery of US and over 17 trillion to wall street monsters.

      Huey P. Long

      The number title has has to be increased. ONE minute long and you will LOL IMO.

    8. Howdy Doody Says:


      I found this net site right here at VanGuardNewsnetwork, I can’t remember how, but hey take a bow okay.

      Any way, listen up Pilgrims.

      If you have been receiving Neocon Patriotard emails for years from acquaintances who are basically stupid, arrogantly and willingly unaware.

      Then send them the link above and away go yo spam mail down the drain.

    9. Andei the Angry Ghost Says:


      Pastor says he’ll void vote on interracial couples
      The Associated Press
      Sunday, December 4, 2011 12:36 PM EST

      PIKEVILLE, Ky. (AP) — The pastor at a Kentucky church says he will nullify a vote taken by members of his congregation that bans interracial couples.

      Stacy Stepp, who is pastor of the Gulnare Free Will Baptist Church in Pike County, told the Lexington Herald-Leader on Saturday that he plans to declare the vote approving the policy null and void (bit.ly/vsaq1g).

      The move comes after Stepp, who says he opposed the policy, asked for advice from the Sandy Valley Conference of Free Will Baptists.

      The conference met Saturday and issued a statement saying it had determined there weren’t enough members voting in favor of the proposal, which would require a change in church bylaws. The vote last week at the church, which has about 40 people who attend, was 9-6.

      Copyright 2011 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

    10. Tim McGreen Says:

      Religion bores me, Torrence. It’s all about making you feel guilty simply for being human and surrendering your hard-earned money to an organization that has not earned it and will most likely do stupid things with it. You get nothing in return except some vague promises about having a better life after you die. Or the mythical sky god is going to come back to Earth some day and take away all the world’s problems. And while the preacher is busy shaming you into submission and taking your money he’s making a pass at your wife or your 14 year old daughter.

      Please. If you holy rollers are going to deceive me you’ll have to be a lot more imaginative.

    11. Nom de Guerre Says:

      I’ve yet to see a sky god temple that didn’t look like a mausoleum with an office ran by some ghoulish looking morticians called pastors, and usually pasty faced wives. Why waste time and energy and tax dollars to promote these weirdo’s … Newt Gingrich maybe the new world order fav-o-rite for Prez, but if he is what some say wanting to get rid of Xianity, thats a plus for him in my opinion.

    12. Nom de Guerre Says:

      How many times has xianity went around Mt. Sinai? Look at the Protestant reformation, millions dead so you could sing jeboo luvs the lil niggers in German, or English, or Swahili. Xianity is a merry go round getting the same slop slurped out bout jaysus, the jew just luv it another guilt trip on Whitey. I find it very hard to phanthom why they would want of dispose of it. ” We must find the courage, the courage to make a god out of beauty that will not be quiet.” We had our own Gods once upon a time, Gods of the battlefield, of the hearth of the field and wildlife. The reality is that the White world is bogged down by the relics of dead religions

    13. Nom de Guerre Says:

      The last time xianity ovetly displayed some deciseviness, was when that induced the North to attack the South, with such old testament vindicitiveness that is best opined in the Battle Hymn of the Republic.
      Then it occured in the aftermath of the slaughter, that enough Whites should be left alive to fight future wars for the jews, and so forth we went on to kill Whites in Europe for xianitys crusade without a sky god.

    14. Howdy Doody Says:

      Quebec ?

      In 12 years I have never read anything from a French Quebec Resident, not once, not one forum site or comment any where ?

      Do they have P.C.’s in the cold province or is it they are all a bunch of stinking rear ending race traitors ? I know they have allot of Haitians, and so I guess they really don’t even love them selves.

      Stupid Bastards !

      Please let me I am wrong.