19 October, 2011
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19 October, 2011 at 5:29 pm
DETECTING THE NEXT “HAL TURNER” IMPOSTOR
As many of you know, Hal Turner looked like one of us, acted like one of us, and spoke like one of us. He was NOT one of us. He admitted in a court of law to be an FBI informant. I seethe with anger thinking of how many White people are rotting in a ZOG gulag cell right now because of this New Jersey radio show host, Hal Turner.
I raise this issue to ask the room:
How will we detect the next traitor among us? He or she will be among us, if not already. How can we prevent someone like this in the future?
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19 October, 2011 at 5:40 pm
Rabbi admits mossad did 911-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNe263T7cBg&feature=watch_response
19 October, 2011 at 5:59 pm
Jurgen, we already have a FBI informant who moves among us and posts right here on VNN.
His name is Glenn Miller.
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19 October, 2011 at 6:03 pm
Re: Hal Turner
Jürgen, I bet you that there are still people who post here and who support our cause who would accept Hal Turner back in a heartbeat. That’s because many of our “comrades” are so desperate to find someone that agrees with them that they throw all caution to the wind.
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19 October, 2011 at 6:50 pm
How to be sure..
http://www.gyre.org/news/explore/lie-detector-technology
19 October, 2011 at 7:16 pm
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19 October, 2011 at 8:45 pm
No doubt there are a few Hal Turner informant types among us. The funny thing is that when rumors starting floating around the net that Hal was not the pro-white crusader he pretended to be, he loudly proclaimed his innocence and dedication to the cause like no other. At the same time he claimed his detractors were feds or ADL agents. Oh, the irony.
Over on the forum there are a couple of people still trying to make a case for Edgar Steele’s guilt (cough, Donald Pauly, Hadding, cough). Of course, I guess they would be considered cognitive dissonance agents. But, we have to be aware that since the FBI-ADL-SPLC cannot regulate the internet the only course of action is to have their agents pretend they are one of us, gain the trust of some, then sow discord, disinformation and confusion on the the various threads and blogs.
Most of the time these people are easy to spot. Even though posting and blogging is impersonal and anonymous, after a while it’s not that hard detecting the blowhards and phonies.
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19 October, 2011 at 9:04 pm
My point is that we shouldn’t be daunted by “FEDS”. And some may be put to good use.
White nationalism is beyond detraction because it’s a good ideology. So if a FED agent promotes white nationalism, it’s not so bad.
I also doubt that the FEDS are going to pay to have people write things on blogs. If so what a waste of money.
Hal Turner did some good marches that I attended, as did Alex Linder. I’m proud of them and that I attended. If Hal gave information (and what is that information anyway? Of what relevance?) that makes him look bad, not the people who joined him in valid marches in Kingston, Kalamazoo and elsewhere.
Now that Hals in prison (and may be on trial for other charges in CT) who is doing anything?
So ironically, Hal did something. While we……
Hot debate. What do you think?
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19 October, 2011 at 11:35 pm
Fact is we Now do have a NKVD/STASI enemy alien run state.
Read Paul Craig Roberts last four reports.
Read Solzhenitzyn. “Live Not By Lie’s”
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Yuri Bezmenov: Deception Was My Job (Complete) 1984
Uploaded by GBPPR2 on Jan 20, 2011
This is G. Edward Griffin’s shocking video interview, Soviet Subversion of the Free-World Press (1984), where he interviews ex-KGB officer and Soviet defector Yuri Bezmenov who decided to openly reveal KGB’s subversive tactics against western society as a whole.
Bezmenov explains how Jewish Marxist ideology is destabilizing the economy and purposefully pushing the U.S. into numerous crises so that a Big Brother tyranny can be put into place in Washington, how most Americans don’t even realize that they are under attack, and that normal parliamentary procedures will not alter the federal government’s direction.
[[He then explains how Marxist leaders use informers to make lists of anti-Communist and other politically incorrect people who they want to execute once they - actually a Jewish oligarchy - come to power. The oligarch's secret lists include "civil rights" activists and idealistically-minded "useful idiot" leftists as well.]]
Bezmenov provides several real world examples of how Marxist leaders even execute and/or imprison each other. Also he explains how American embassy employees were known to betray Soviets attempting to defect, how their existed a “triangle of hate” in the Soviet government, why he realized that Marxism-Leninism was a murderous doctrine, and how the CIA ignored (or didn’t care) about Communist subversion.
He also mentions that revolutions throughout history are never the result of a majority movement, but of a small dedicated and highly-organized group who seize power, whether for good or bad. Next he explains how the American mass media spread lies about life in the Soviet Union.
Bezmenov also explains how the LOOK magazine article falsely claimed that the Russian people were proud of their victory in the Second World War, where in reality the Judeo-Bolshevik-Communist-Marxist government was happy that Hitler had been defeated so that they could remain in power.
Find out how the KGB utilized various individuals to undermine the Western society in its morals and values.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3qkf3bajd4
19 October, 2011 at 11:44 pm
http://www.youtube.com/user/ramzpaul
Hitler ? !!!!!
LOL!
19 October, 2011 at 11:53 pm
I have history professors who have never heard of Holodomer, Katyn Forest Massacre, Bolshevik Revolution, Volga Massacre etc.
A degree in? college is now just a degree in indoctrination. It once used to be a location to further your knowledge and apply critical thinking… know “critical thinking” is abiding by what they tell you to think.
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20 October, 2011 at 12:05 am
Hal Turner is not a Fed. He simply plea bargained that he was to avoid a 20 year sentence.
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20 October, 2011 at 12:16 am
Give me the money !
Send me the money !
I like living in N.J. ?
Inciting, what is the defination of that ?
Keeping the dialogue low grade as possible.
Promoting idiocy.
With friends like this we might as well jump off a cliff.
20 October, 2011 at 1:14 am
Where’s Alex Linder? He seems to have disappeared for the last few weeks….
VNN Forum is extremely boring when AL isn’t around so I hope he’s back soon.
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20 October, 2011 at 1:31 am
Turner may not be a snitch but he was always too much of an unstable bigmouth to be trusted. We need more level-headed and responsible people in the Struggle like Herr Linder. Under no circumstances should any pro-White activist talk to the police.
DON’T TALK. YOU HAVE NOTHING TO SAY. THE PO-LICE ARE NOT YOUR FRIENDS. DO NOT MAKE THEIR JOB EASIER FOR THEM.
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20 October, 2011 at 1:33 am
And unless the pigs have a warrant you NEVER let them in to your house. Y’hear?
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20 October, 2011 at 2:50 am
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20 October, 2011 at 5:46 am
One of the best places to find unusual WN articles written over the past 30 years is, instaurationonline.com. Also the short one paragraph letters to the editor, called ‘the safety valve’, are always interesting and sometimes amusing. The trouble is, these people were expressing opinions back in 1980 as forcefully as we do today, but did they achieve anything, has the rot at least slowed down? Well, the rate of disintegration has actually accelerated because that is precisely the aim of the liberal elites and big jew. For all our talk and communication we have been total failures in retarding the headlong rush to racial destruction.
While I’m sure an increasing number of White people know and have accepted the historical and biological facts we have presented to them, they have not acted on that knowledge. Their inaction isn’t due to cowardice or even apathy, it is simply they (and we) don’t know what to do. We are paralysed by rationality.
My greatest fear is the system will stagger on in its present form for the next 20 or 30 years until ALL White countries have non-White majorities and so many mixed race groups that it will be impossible to separate them. This will happen even if turd world immigration is actually reduced because the median age in industrialised countries is about 45 years. This means the older 1/3 of the population will be dead in 20 years, and they are of course beyond reproductive age now. Big jew knows this and isn’t really bothered by growing White restlessness, all they have to do is keep the lid fastened for a few more years.
The only events on the horizon with the potential to upset the jew apple cart could be; the collapse of organised religion, zog attack on Iran, and China precipitating a major crisis.
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20 October, 2011 at 6:59 am
mrcrouton just called WN an ‘ideology’
20 October, 2011 at 7:00 am
Did everyone listen to the absolutely nauseating, gutless, spineless, cowardly, vomit-provoking interview that Pat Buchanan did with Sean Hannity about his new book, Suicide of a Superpower?
If not, give it a listen – and then perhaps, finally, the serious white nationalists and white race realists will at long last understand what a worthless piece of garbage Pat Buchanan truly is to our noble cause of White European racial survival. This man is not only worthless in any true white leadership sense – but this deceitful con-artist has made millions of dollars off of concerned white nationalists and white race realists by selling his books that appeal to the valid concerns of Whites in America, but which never name the jew as the #1 source of our impending genocide and race displacement inside our native homelands.
This guy is a Judas Goat and clearly controlled opposition – designed to plant false hope inside the sponge-like brains of the millions of whites who waste their money buying his books by making them ‘think’ that his books are going to suddenly ‘wake up’ the same elites who hate our white guts and who are obsessed with completing their genocide of our race. News Flash, White Man: Our elites are not going to ‘wake up’ and stop the evil that they are doing to our race, at least not voluntarily. I believe it is going to require a considerable amount of encouragement, probably of a very passionate and physically active nature to bring this White Genocide program to a screeching halt.
Meanwhile, stop putting money into the pockets of Judas Goat rats like Patrick J. Buchanan – and also stop donating to radio programs who continue to kiss this guy’s toes, regardless of how treasonous and cowardly this con-artist behaves. I think everyone ought to know which specific radio program I am referring to, right? However, if said radio program suddenly decides to stop promoting this rat and begins to tell the truth about what kind of con he’s been pulling over on White Nationalists – then we all can reconsider our donation priorities.
To conclude: Whites have a mere 31 years before we are targeted to be reduced to a minority inside the nation which was created by our 100 percent WHITE EUROPEAN ANCESTORS and FOUNDING FATHERS.
If our so-called ‘leaders’ are too terrified to discuss the all-important topic of race and racial realities, with so little time left to work with – then it’s time to dump those cowards and elect NEW LEADERS who aren’t afraid to discuss race.
Hit the bench, Patty girl – you’re fired, you gutless loser.
Linder has been dead on the money about this spineless rat from day number one.
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20 October, 2011 at 8:43 am
This is to the one who calls himself Jurgen. Hal Turner gave himself away over a year before he was arrested. He told people to commit violent acts against a whole host of politicians, judges, and others. Stop right there. You can not insight others on FCC controlled airwaves. IT’S ILLEGAL!!!!! He then told white people with terminal cancer to commit murder. “Hey, what the hell, you are a dead man anyway. What a stinking little prick. A white man suffers every day of his life in this jew, nigger world. Now you want him to spend the last days of his life in a ZOG prison surrounded by niggers and spics. Fuck You! Do it yourself tough guy. Jurgen..that’s how you know who is who. If they tell you to commit a violent act, run as fast as you can. It’s a traitor. BuzzardBreath!!!!
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20 October, 2011 at 8:43 am
This is to the one who calls himself Jurgen. Hal Turner gave himself away over a year before he was arrested. He told people to commit violent acts against a whole host of politicians, judges, and others. Stop right there. You can not insight others on FCC controlled airwaves. IT’S ILLEGAL!!!!! He then told white people with terminal cancer to commit murder. “Hey, what the hell, you are a dead man anyway. What a stinking little prick. A white man suffers every day of his life in this jew, nigger world. Now you want him to spend the last days of his life in a ZOG prison surrounded by niggers and spics. Fuck You! Do it yourself tough guy. Jurgen..that’s how you know who is who. If they tell you to commit a violent act, run as fast as you can. It’s a traitor. BuzzardBreath!!!!
20 October, 2011 at 8:44 am
Sorry for the double post.
20 October, 2011 at 9:01 am
The only events on the horizon with the potential to upset the jew apple cart could be; the collapse of organised religion, zog attack on Iran, and China precipitating a major crisis.
CW I like your post, but how would/could a collapse of Organized religion upset the jew apple cart? How are they assisting the jews in mainting their power over the goyim? Please give some examples.
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20 October, 2011 at 9:06 am
The Chinese believe that their supplies of energy may be disrupted , thats why Putin just signed a deal to furnish them trillions of cubic feet of natural gas., that is also an indicator that Russia may use a bit a blackmail on the the Jew ass oh veys allies in Europe. Leave um to freeze in the cold.
20 October, 2011 at 9:07 am
Someone please correct me, if I am wrong – but, I don’t believe the FCC has authority over web radio. That’s why web podcasts, some anyway, can get by with profanity and with promoting a pro-white, anti-jew message.
The jews have tried other tactics – such as exerting pressure on commercial sponsors and advertisers on the patriotard web radio networks – but for those web radio shows who do not even attempt to attract advertisers and largely substitute news clips for their breaks, there are no advertisers to threaten, so the truth about the jews can be aired.
Make no mistake about it. If the FCC did control web radio, then there would be no Goyfires, or Free Talk Lives, or anything else that tells the truth about the jews. In Hal Turner’s case, I think near the end of his charade – the FBI was putting the screws to him, and trying hard to get him to incite some unstable psychopath who was pro-white – because they had wasted a lot of money on the guy and still hadn’t nailed any big fish.
Turner might have been thinking that he was playing a con on the FBI and on the people who thought he was legit – all the while, milking the $10k per month – but, as others have said – these kinds of games are very dangerous to play when you’re dealing with ZOG’s toe lickers.
They usually backfire on you. Thus, remember Metzger’s 5 words: “I have nothing to say.”
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20 October, 2011 at 9:47 am
Luke you are 100% wrong. Please don’t argue with me. I’m trying to protect the brothers from harm. I answered a specific question by Jurgen. Think luke. Hal turner commited no violent act. He was not arrested on any gun charges, even in a tangential way. I heard all of those broadcasts. He said that the judge deserved to be killed, and someone should do it. Okay Luke, are you still going to question what I said. Yes the FCC controls the internet. You can say I hate niggers and jews. You can’t say I’m going to kill them all. It’s semantics, but it holds up in a court of law. IF SOMEONE TELLS YOU TO COMMIT A VIOLENT CRIME…..HE IS FBI!!!!!!!
20 October, 2011 at 2:35 pm
N de G, thanks for your favorable comments. From what I can gather all the mainline Christian churches are dancing to the jew tune, particularly with regard to the ‘cardinal sin’ of racism. Even the Catholic church which in the distant past held the jew at arm’s length is now taking orders directly from big jew, at least if the bishop Williamson affair is a true indication of thinking within the Vatican.
Also the idea of a celestial hotel we are all supposed to be heading for, a kind of 5* Hilton in the sky, is a childish concept with the potential to arrest our emotional development. Instead of a mature outlook on the world and the problems we are capable of putting right, we are encouraged to look to the distant horizon of when we are dead and when everything will be set to rights, not by our efforts, but by some higher authority.
Acceptance of such an outlook, and this seems to be the norm for all the major churches, is an abrogation of our duty as individuals in this world of striving and conflict. The whole institutionalized religious system seems to be conditioning us to always give in and make room for our present and future enemies. Such a program is contrary to Nature and must be rejected by all healthy life affirming people.
If White people find that Christianity has some answers to their inner most needs, fine, but they must ask themselves do they need the support of institutions that have largely turned against them.
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20 October, 2011 at 7:53 pm
Hal did play semantics well, and it’s sad that the jury didn’t understand that words like might, should and could defuse any intent and therefore negate a sentence.
So if I said, he should kill so and so; or if I said, he could kill so and so; or if I said he might kill so and so.. it really doesn’t mean any real intent to do anything at all.
But if you said, let’s go kill so and so, then it has intent.
Hal knew this, and the Feds turned on him because of the homosexual power groups in CT, and the FBI stabbing him in the back.
We wont know anything until Hal is set free in 3 years (and even then he might make up a bullshit story).
But it is stupid that the FBI tries this stuff. They need to tell their ADL bosses to fuck off.
When I met the FBI guys on my doorstep (and gave them information I read in the newspaper and from their crime reports), I told them that we white nationalists are law abiding and that if they want to fight crime, go to the african American sections of any city and do it there since that is where the crime is.
All they wanted from me in the end is that if I knew anyone plotting anything criminal to give them a call. I told them I hardly know anyone since I don’t get out much. They too live under the KKK phobic narrative for the 1960′s where white Nazis are running amok murdering people of color.
I again reminded them of their crime statistics which show blacks do most of the murderering in the USA.
Now since I gave the FBI information does that make me an informant?
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21 October, 2011 at 1:38 am
Phil Anselmo, legendary frontman for heavy metal band Pantera gives a white pride speech during a concert (most likely from 1995).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxQk3DC3gL0
21 October, 2011 at 6:00 am
AMERICA’S ALL JEW MEDIA USE THE GROUP “OCCUPY” TO COVER UP RACIST NEGRO ATTACK IN NORTHERN UNITED STATES
http://news-cottage-two.blogspot.com/2011/10/jew-motivated-jungle-obama-negroes-use.html
21 October, 2011 at 4:48 pm
Luke made some valid points about Patsy Buchanan. Pat only goes far enough to still remain in good standing with the beltway elites. For if he really told the truth about jews and race in America there would be no more media appearances, no more articles and books printed and published,a nd no more hobnobbing on Capitol hill.
Pat always writes stoically as if he has no stake in the outcome of the ruthless genocide being waged against whites in North America. Ho hum, whites are becoming a minority, ho hum. He’s much too gutless to admit that whites are within their rights to take back America and Europe by any means necessary including the forcible expulsion, and if necessary, genocide, of non-whites who will kill and disenfranchise us without remorse.
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21 October, 2011 at 8:32 pm
Found this book today-’Injustice: Exposing the Racial Agenda of the Obama Justice Department’ on Amazon.
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22 October, 2011 at 1:16 am
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21 October, 2011 at 4:48 pm
Luke made some valid points about Patsy Buchanan. Pat only goes far enough to still remain in good standing with the beltway elites. For if he really told the truth about jews and race in America there would be no more media appearances, no more articles and books printed and published,a nd no more hobnobbing on Capitol hill.
Pat always writes stoically as if he has no stake in the outcome of the ruthless genocide being waged against whites in North America. Ho hum, whites are becoming a minority, ho hum. He’s much too gutless to admit that whites are within their rights to take back America and Europe by any means necessary including the forcible expulsion, and if necessary, genocide, of non-whites who will kill and disenfranchise us without remorse.
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24 October, 2011 at 9:09 am
http://english.pravda.ru/world/americas/24-10-2011/119419-obama_spending-0/
Bongos flea infested She-boon spends 1/2 a million on Afreekin tour.
where is the outcry from the Rightwing repulke tards cuntdidates. Oh their all busy assembling war chests for Shitreal. They all need to hang every god damn one of um.
24 October, 2011 at 1:06 pm
But Nom, where was the outrage over Bush Jr.’s ties to Enron and to that criminal Jew fundraiser Jack Abramov? Abramov and Enron’s Ken Lay visited the Bush White House dozens of times before those scandals broke and Bush said he barely knew either of them??? Or what about that other Jew Bernie Schwartz, the criminal head of Loral who helped Slick Willie receive illegal campaign money from Red China? Or what about Jim and Susan McDougal of Madison Guarantee Savings and Loan fame? And the Chinaman Charlie Tree, who ran that Chink restaurant in Little Rock? Those presidential muthafukkas get away with murder…literally. And the American public could not care less.
If anyone deserves to be executed it’s those millions of apathetic, docile and brain-dead White Kwans who are clogging up the Interstates with their stupid oversized pickup trucks and douchy little Priuses. We have villains like Clinton, Bush and Obongo in power because the damn sheep-like Eloi have allowed it. To hell with trying to “educate” them or “wake them up”. I say let the fukkers starve to death.
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24 October, 2011 at 7:36 pm
WELL SAID TIM!!! I feel exactly the same way. If these arseholes haven’t woken up by, than bollocks to them all!!!
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24 October, 2011 at 11:24 pm
The SAVINGS AND LOAN Robber of the 1980′s was just a test for the serious TRILLIONS in Robbery of the last two years!
Howling monsters !
Silverado Savings and Loan, ah yes memories.
24 October, 2011 at 11:27 pm
Timmy, your best friends better have tools and pick up trucks, with couple of horse’s and some smart, very cunning vicious dog’s.
Get’em !
24 October, 2011 at 11:30 pm
Putin IMO knows knows the truth of the last 100 years, but he has to do what he has to, and he knows who is running WESTERN Regime today.
24 October, 2011 at 11:32 pm
Putin IMO knows knows the truth of the last 100 years, but he has to do what he has to, and he knows who is running WESTERN Regime’s today.
25 October, 2011 at 8:32 am
For once I have to agree with the rapture bunnies, that the only hope for this world to overthrow the jew yoke, is for that bunch of xians to be eliminated.. The jews may be getting tired of all the jeboo fanatics writing the script.
25 October, 2011 at 8:33 am
Why not a new movement in history like Aryans against jeboo.
25 October, 2011 at 10:37 am
No doubt the Jews are very wary of their Rapture-bound Christo-Zionist stooges, because they know that sooner or later those useful goy idiots will try to convert them, to save their heathen Jew brethren from eternal damnation. After all, they did crucify the LORD! Those dumb-ass Christlings are going to learn a hard, painful lesson when their Self-Chosen friends start rounding them up in the middle of the night and mowing them down with machine gun fire into shallow lime-pits. Oh well, that will save us the trouble of having to do it ourselves later on.
25 October, 2011 at 4:20 pm
It must be pretty humbling for the Chosen to have to play the story line put out by the zio-xian stooges like Hal Lindsey, fatso Hagee, and Cal Thomas.
26 October, 2011 at 1:38 am
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25 October, 2011 at 4:20 pm
Nom
These evanjellycull’s are now mentally IMO going in to their doomsday Amosgettin mind set.
Lets see what have we here in theological doomsday out fits shall we.
Four Square, Assemblies Of God, along with Hogee, Cal Thomas, Hal Lindsey and dozen of other Liberation theology Derived Christard /Marxist blood polluting genociding deluded numb skulls are IMO are dangerous.
These funnymentalist’s don’t know any history and don’t know any Christian Political history either.
IME they are getting food preparation’s nation wide, which is a good thing for any one, but they harbor a hatred for any one who does not share their delusion’s, and many are armed.
I wonder how all these different groups with memebers who are screwing every woman they can that does not belong to their brand end up doing if something big would happen ?
JMO, they are Marxist evious of all those who have nickel more than they do and they do love the P.C. pill as much as any Tattooed pierced whigger. Evanjellycull’s they do let their White chilren marry Non White and I have seen a family end that was over 6 foot tall and handsome.
Bizzare brain washing that event he North Korean/Chicom’s could not do our White POW’s in 1950-52, has been done with enemy media and infiltration of their religion IMO.
26 October, 2011 at 2:08 am
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Clogging UP ?
How about a 100 million INVADERS in the US/CANADA with Alien gooberments, lol.
Thank you
Say good night GRACIE
26 November, 2011 at 1:05 am
Never met a evanjellycull who Did Not Grow in a White Small city, town or rural area.
IMO if they grew up around savages and jooos, the could not possibly be that duped.
26 November, 2011 at 1:14 am
Never met an evanjellycull who did not grow up in an all White small city, towns or a rural areas.
Though today almost all of this former all White areas now have invaders nesting and breeding in them.
So their children are being dumbed down even more.
98% Evanjellyculls are always a pain in the neck and something IMO is seriously wrong with these willfully ignorant traitors to the founders of the US.
If you think they are wonderful, I say they are race traitors to the max..
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