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Well, White Christians give assent to the doctrine of the Atonement, which is the same thing (collective guilt) in reverse:

God was very angry at the sins of humanity (not at humans, mind you, but at their sins). He had stored up anger like some gigantic anger capacitor.
He needed to discharge, and soon. So he sent his Son to bear his righteous anger, anger that was meant for sin. So God in some mysterious way put all the sins of humanity on his Son, and discharged his anger.

(But God is not angry at humans since God is Love, but only at their sins, you say? And Jesus was a human, and God seemed to be angry with him by letting him be crucified and forsaken and all? Well, C.S. Lewis has very cleverly explained that the Son BECAME sin. Therefore God could blast him with His anger.)

But it is collective guilt . . . put onto one man. Usually it is one man who does the crime and the collective guilt is put onto all his relatives, but it is the same principle.

Big Jim Jesus says:

The “satisfaction” theory of the atonement is only one. There are many. The Bible does not take sides. Remember, these are only analogies, not doctine or explanations.

The result of sin is death. Death can mean death, or it can mean separation from God.

For God to deal with sin and its results, He had to be separated from Himself and to die. Impossible?

No. God became Christ and Christ was separated from God on the cross, then He died. In doing so, He experienced the worst of those things for us. He took the sting out of it. God made death and hell His own. He could not do this simply as God; He was excluded by the very fact of His nature. He had to become man. That is why any theologies that deny that Jesus was (is) God are insufficient.

The early Church had many paintings which show Chirst leading the multitudes out of hell. This is called Christus Victor. It was the classical, accepted theory of the atonement by the early church, until it was outlawed by a certain pope in favor of the “satisfaction” theory.

The theory that God had to vent his anger is known as the substitutionary theory of the atonement, and turns many people off with its legalism.

It is only a theory. The Bible does not lay out the precise workings of the atonement.

But sin results in separation from God and then death. For God to deal with these things, it was necessary for Him to become human. He did this in Jesus Christ. He had to become separated from Himself, and then die, things which is was thought impossible for God to do.

On the cross, Christ was separated from God, and then died. In this way, he brought two areas in which God was excluded, by His own nature, under the domain of God.

This is the Christus Victor theory, and was the official theory until a certain pope decided that another one (the substitutionary theory) was better about a thousand years later.

Perhaps it was discarded because it easily lead to belief in universal salvation or it did not pin people to the wall with legality?

This is an interesting thread and the comments on it are very good–so how did I miss it?

The Cruci-FICTION is a morbid, unlikely story that is very sadomasochistic in nature. The Catholics love it, though. They love obsessing on the blood and the whippings and the nails being driven into the guy’s hands. And if the stories of the early Catholic martyrs are to be believed, there were a lot of whack-jobs who were more than willing to imitate Christ’s “sacrifice” by doing it one better. “Saint Peter”, for example, is said to have wanted to be crucified upside down. Apparently they didn’t think Christ’s “sacrifice” was quite adequate enough.

The Zionist Entity (Israel) has broken so many international laws of war and decency that it’s hard to keep track of them all. But I like how the Obongo Regime is condemning ISIS for beheading that journalist/spy as a barbaric act of cruelty, yet at the exact same time it says nothing about Israel’s mass-murder of Palestinian children because a few Palestinian men are firing off ineffective rockets at Israel from Gaza.

I really hate the US government and its Jew bosses.

Look who helped the conservative Bush kikes get theIR war going: the liberal kikes at the New York Times. Get what’s going on, xtard idiots? Politics in America is a jewish family squabble. Your only duty, dumbass goy, is to pay for their partying and die in their wars

Something very fishy about ZOGS operation against Isis aka Isil, is that they are reluctant to attack them in Syria, so that means they are useful idiots for bringing down Assad, but not useful in Iraq?
No crocodile tears for all the beheaded Syrians, the Isis fanatics even went so far as to cannabalize the victims. Itzreal is the steering mechanism behind Isis.

If you were to trace the origins of the cruci-fiction and resurrection of Jeebus you’d see it’s just a myth that represents the return of spring, or life, to the world. The Spring Equinox features three days and nights that are of equal length, so the Sun is symbolically “dead” for that period of time. Then the days start to get longer after that, meaning that the Sun has been “resurrected”. And Jeebus is a god who, like Apollo before him, represents the Sun. Notice how Jeebus “rises” out of a cave and ascends into the sky. The ancients believed the Sun also rose out of a cave.

CAST OF CHARACTERS:

The Virgin Mary = Pagan Earth goddess

God the Father = Pagan God of the Sky

God the Son = Pagan God of the Sun

That must have been Johnny Allegro, Thom.

Better to be a mushroom than his other portrayals: pantywaist, hippie, communist, gay boy.

How is possible that the White Race has survived for 2000 years with that albatross of a religion xianity? Xianity is literally a guilt ridden myth planned by the jews to condemn the world, and scoop up all the wealth, not until recent times has anybody dared to call into question Xianitys stranglehold. Thomas Paine was so hated by the Kwans, that they dug up his body and shipped it back to England.

Christianity is drawn from, lifted, borrowed and stolen from much older pagan religions. The Virgin, angels, crucifix, Madonna and child are not origins of Christianity. The Jews replaced SUN with son. The new born babe rises each morning (born again). The most high god–High Noon. It’s lunch time ! !