Reader Mail: 3 May 2004





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Correct email address for Billy Roper: billy@whiterevolution.com



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Sugar Dave Mathews and A Fish Named Anastasia take to Freaka for larynx-based fraternization with mandingoes of music. They're going to go intern with kings in their kingdom, Mathews says with practiced humility. "We're here completely as students," harmonizes the fish. Why, if negroes and whites can make beautiful, or, let's say, music together, then, just like gefilte fish next to lutefisk on the serving board, people of any race, creed, nationality, number of noses can live together in harmony. I mean, if it didn't make sense, it wouldn't be on VH1.

Nota Bene Ramsey

Ed. Note: I think it would be nice if Mathews, a South African, used his international prestige to hold a benefit concert for White victims of black rape. Haha. Hahaha. Hahahahahahahaha.

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Subject: Hitler not so Catholic

Hitler was as Catholic as they come.

Haha.. I wonder what he'd say to that.

When I was younger, I thought it was necessary to set about matters with dynamite. I've since realised that there's room for a little subtlety. The rotten branch falls of itself. The final state must be: in St. Peter's Chair, a senile officiant; facing him, a few sinister old women, as gaga and as poor in spirit as anyone could wish. The young and healthy are on our side.

It's impossible eternally to hold humanity in bondage with lies. After all, it was only between the sixth and eighth centuries that Christianity was imposed on our peoples by princes who had an alliance of interests with the shavelings. Our peoples had previously succeeded in living all right without this religion. I have six divisions of SS composed of men absolutely indifferent in matters of religion. It doesn't prevent them from going to their deaths with serenity in their souls.

It's not opportune to hurl ourselves now into a struggle with the Churches. A slow death has something comforting about it. The dogma of Christianity gets worn away before the advances of science. Religion will have to make more and more concessions. Gradually the myths crumble.

I envisage the future, therefore, as follows: First of all, to each man his private creed. Superstition shall not lose its rights. The Party is sheltered from the danger of competing with the religions. These latter must simply be forbidden from interfering in future with temporal matters. From the tenderest age, education will be imparted in such a way that each child will know all that is important to the maintenance of the State. As for the men close to me, who, like me, have escaped from the clutches of dogma, I've no reason to fear that the Church will get its hooks on them.

We shall continue to preach the doctrine of National Socialism, and the young will no longer be taught anything but the truth.

What is this God who takes pleasure only in seeing men grovel before Him? Try to picture to yourselves the meaning of the following, quite simple story. God creates the conditions for sin. Later on He succeeds, with the help of the Devil, in causing man to sin. Then He employs a virgin to bring into the world a son who, by His death, will redeem humanity!

Christianity is an invention of sick brains: one could imagine nothing more senseless, nor any more indecent way of turning the idea of the Godhead into a mockery. A negro with his tabus is crushingly superior to the human being who seriously believes in Transubstantiation.

For thirty years the Germans tore each other to pieces simply in order to know whether or not they should take Communion in both kinds. There's nothing lower than religious notions like that. From that point of view, one can envy the Japanese. They have a religion which is very simple and brings them into contact with nature. They've succeeded even in taking Christianity and turning it into a religion that's less shocking to the intellect.

What comes naturally to mankind is the sense of eternity and that sense is at the bottom of every man. The soul and the mind migrate, just as the body returns to nature. Thus life is eternally reborn from life. As for the "why?" of all that, I feel no need to rack my brains on the subject. The soul is unplumbable.

While we're on the subject, let's add that, even amongst those who claim to be good Catholics, very few really believe in this humbug. Only old women, who have given up everything because life has already withdrawn from them, go regularly to church. All that's dead wood-and one shouldn't waste one's time in concerning oneself with such brains.

I shall never believe that what is founded on lies can endure for ever. I believe in truth. I'm sure that, in the long run, truth must be victorious.

Our epoch will certainly see the end of the disease of Christianity. It will last another hundred years, two hundred years perhaps. My regret will have been that I couldn't, like whoever the prophet was, behold the promised land from afar. We are entering into a conception of the world that will be a sunny era, an era of tolerance. Man must be put in a position to develop freely the talents that God has given him.

It is a great pity that this tendency towards religious thought can find no better outlet than the Jewish pettifoggery of the Old Testament. For religious people who, in the solitude of winder, continually seek ultimate light on their religious problems with the assistance of the Bible, must eventually become spiritually deformed. The wretched people strive to extract truths from these Jewish chicaneries, where in fact no truths exist. As a result they become embedded in some rut of thought or other and, unless they possess an exceptionally commonsense mind, degenerate into religious maniacs.

The observatory I'll have built at Linz, on the Pšstlingberg, I can see it in my mind... In future, thousands of excursionists will make a pilgrimage there every Sunday. They'll thus have access to the greatness of our universe. The pediment will bear this motto: 'The heavens proclaim the glory of the everlasting.' It will be our way of giving men a religious spirit, of teaching them humility Ń but without the priests.

What is contrary to the visible truth must change or disappear Ń that's the law of life.

Research must remain free and unfettered by any State restriction. The facts which it establishes represent Truth, and Truth is never evil.

I shall never believe that what is founded on lies can endure for ever. I believe in Truth. I'm sure that, in the long run, Truth must be victorious.

From the Martin Bormann notes, recorded 41-44, published in English as Hitler's Table Talk. Private conversations between Hitler and his inner circle which Irving regards as "one of the best windows into the mind of Hitler himself," and fill over 800 pages. Their authenticity is undisputed. Irving,

Hitler's Table Talk is the product of his lunch- and supper-time conversations in his private circle from 1941 to 1944. The transcripts are genuine.

The Table Talks' content is more important in my view than Hitler's Mein Kampf, and possibly even more than his Zweites Buch (1928). It is unadulterated Hitler. He expatiates on virtually every subject under the sun.

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US Diplomats Launch Bush Attack

"Around 50 retired US diplomats have written to US President George Bush to complain about America's policy towards the Middle East."

"'Your unabashed support of Sharon's extra-judicial assassinations, Israel's Berlin-Wall-like barrier, its harsh military measures in occupied territories and now your endorsement of Sharon's unilateral plans are costing our country its credibility, prestige and friends,' the letter warned." Here.

"Newz" Numberman

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Alex:

From a chatroom, pretty fuckin' funny:

Some people I know say it's smarter to stay away from the current political issues with all but my CLOSEST friends, but I just gotta say this:

It's time to reevaluate our involvement.

Every day there are news reports about lack of public safety.

Every night on the TV are photos of death and destruction.

Why are we still there?

We occupied this land, which we had to take by force, but it causes us nothing but trouble.

Why are we still there?

Their government is unstable, and there is no leadership or will to change the current system.

Why are we still there?

Many of their people are crude and uncivilized.

Why are we still there?

There are more than 100 religious sects, which we don't understand.

Why are we still there?

We can't even secure the borders.

Why are we still there?

They are billions of dollars in debt and it will cost billions more to rebuild, which we can't afford.

Why are we still there?

It is becoming very clear.

We must abandon California.

- Douglas Wright

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Think about how preposterous it would be if people were complaining that the French (or the Mormons, or the Baptists, or the Canadians) were overrepresented in our colleges, our government, our top level military, our ambassadors, our medical profession, our courts, our media ( they're not). Think what it would be like to see non-jews (of any sort) being called as expert testimony and opinion-givers on all the tv news shows (they're not). Ridiculous, right?

Are the Norwegians inviting our police to visit Norway for seminars? Are the Colombians our President's top advisors? Are the Lutherans attempting to suppress free speech? Do the Catholics control ALL the media?

And he has the gall to write:

"Rambo Jew has largely supplanted Shylock in the antisemitic imagination. The sly and stealth corrupting Jew of the first two eras of antisemitism, now armed with his new military and political power, has become the subjugating, brutalizing and killing Jew, either doing the dirty work himself, as in Israel, or employing others to do it for him, as the Jews, fantastically, are said to do with the Bush administration and the "East Coast" establishment is purported to do with the United States generally."

How could any jew, anywhere, not see the hypocrisy in this?

Is this piece indicative of acute schizophrenia? Or just sly self-serving whining.

http://www.forward.com/issues/2003/03.05.02/oped1.html

The Globalization of Antisemitism

By DANIEL JONAH GOLDHAGEN

Antisemitism is evolving. After a period of remission owing to the horror of the Holocaust, the ancient prejudice has recently been reactivated, catalyzed by the Arab-Israeli conflict. It has entered a new era in which its main focus has shifted from the domestic to the international. Always protean in quality, always changing to take on the idiom of its day, antisemitism has been globalized.

Antisemitism has always had domestic and international components. During the long era of Christian antisemitism, the transnational institution of the Catholic church spread the belief that Jews as Christ-killers were a cosmic force for evil. But the principal target of anti-Jewish prejudice was local, the Jews of one's town, region and country who allegedly harmed their Christian neighbors.

In its second era during the 19th and 20th centuries, antisemitism took on a secular and more racist cast, in which an international conspiracy of Jews worked against humanity. Still, most of the antisemitic fire was aimed locally ÷ by Germans at German Jews, by French at French Jews ÷ for the harm that they allegedly inflicted on their countrymen. The "Jewish Problem" ÷ one of the most burning political issues of the day ÷ was overwhelmingly about what Germans, French, Poles and others should do with the Jews within their countries.

Globalized antisemitism is a new constellation of features grafted onto old ones. Varied and complex, it is oriented to the global stage. In most of Europe, and certainly in the West, the domestic "Jewish Problem" is all but dead. Only fringe elements in Germany, France and elsewhere believe that local Jews are causing great harm ÷ financial, professional, moral ÷ to their non-Jewish neighbors, and that a radical response is necessary.

The focus of the animus against Jews has shifted overwhelmingly to Jews of other countries ÷ of Israel and the United States ÷ as the alleged central moral and material culprits of the international arena. Zionism has become, for many, a mythical entity, a destructive agent in the world, and anti-Zionism has become interwoven with anti-Americanism to the point where Russian nationalist politicians can express their fear of American domination by saying that Russia is in danger of being "Zionized."

The center of antisemitism and directions of its transmission are also new. In the previous eras of antisemitism, the demonology about Jews flowed first from the Christian, and then the European, center to the periphery. Today, there are many antisemitic centers and multidirectional flows from Europe, to the Middle East and elsewhere, and back. Essentially, Europe had exported its classical racist and Nazi antisemitism to Arab countries, which they applied to Israel and Jews in general, suffusing it with the real and imagined features of the intensive local conflict. Then the Arab countries re-exported the new hybrid demonology back to Europe and, using the United Nations and other international institutions, to other countries around the world. In Germany, France, Great Britian and elsewhere, today's intensive antisemitic expression and agitation uses old tropes once applied to local Jews ÷ charges of sowing disorder, wanting to subjugate others ÷ with new content overwhelmingly directed at Jews outside their countries and their continent.

The imagery characterizing globalized antisemitism is new. Rambo Jew has largely supplanted Shylock in the antisemitic imagination. The sly and stealth corrupting Jew of the first two eras of antisemitism, now armed with his new military and political power, has become the subjugating, brutalizing and killing Jew, either doing the dirty work himself, as in Israel, or employing others to do it for him, as the Jews, fantastically, are said to do with the Bush administration and the "East Coast" establishment is purported to do with the United States generally.

An emblematic image of globalized antisemitism is of Donald Rumsfeld wearing a yellow star inscribed with "sheriff," followed by a cudgel wielding Ariel Sharon who is flanked by a golden calf. (Please see photograph, below.) That this scene, expressing the putative globalized nature and predations of the Jews, was created for an anti-globalization demonstration in Davos is no mere coincidence.

Globalized antisemitism has other important and new features, including its instantaneous, global transmission through the Internet and by television's biased stories and inflammatory images of Palestinian suffering, which are incorporated into the antisemitic narrative; its unification of elements of the European left and right, and its semi-concealing cloak of anti-Zionism.

Perhaps most distinctive, though, is the unmooring of antisemitism from its original sources. It is detached from Christianity, even if there are still powerful Christian sources of antisemitism. It is detached from its 19th-century European sources of nation building, reactions against modernity and pseudo-scientific notions of race and social Darwinism, even if that era's demonology is still potent in somewhat transposed form.

Globalized antisemitism has become part of the substructure of prejudice of the world. It is free-floating, located in many countries, subcultures and nodes, available in many variations, and to anyone who dislikes international influences, globalization or the United States. It is relentlessly international in its focus on Israel at the center of the most conflict-ridden region today, and on the United States as the world's omnipresent power. It is self-reinforcing, with its fantastical constructions of Jews and Zionism ÷ which are divorced from the fair criticisms that can be made of Israel's policies ÷ and by being located totally outside people's countries and experience. And it is only a few clicks of a mouse away.

After the Holocaust and after Vatican II, it seemed that antisemitism had diminished and might eventually atrophy. It had indeed declined, and in most European countries, including Germany, the publics' conception of their domestic Jews was de-demonized. Many people in Europe and elsewhere today also reject the new antisemitic fantasies.

Yet the reawakening of antisemitism in its new globalized form meant that antisemitism succeeded again in metamorphosing and in extending its reach ÷ even to Africa and Asia. So far the new globalized antisemitism has not proven to be as dangerous as earlier forms, except in the Middle East, but its disquieting features suggest that it has the potential. A genuine settlement to the Arab-Israeli conflict would take some of the wind out of this new antisemitism. But antisemitism's deep roots in the ever more globalizing consciousness, and its proven tenacity and plasticity, make its dissipation unlikely.

Daniel Jonah Goldhagen, an affiliate of Harvard University's Center for European Studies, is the author of "A Moral Reckoning: The Role of the Catholic Church in the Holocaust and Its Unfulfilled Duty of Repair." He will be appearing at "Old Demons, New Debates: Anti-Semitism in the West," a conference being held May 11-14 at the Center for Jewish History. --

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http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/back404.html

...For Jews, the immigration debate pits the heart against the head. In their gut, many feel that substantially reducing immigration betrays the legacy of their parents and grandparents. But a growing number believes that maintaining this policy betrays their children and grandchildren. The danger arises because mass immigration means importing mass anti-Semitism. The upsurge of violent anti-Semitism in Western Europe tracks perfectly with mass immigration, especially of Muslims. Mass immigration is also the generator of Balkanizing notions of extreme multiculturalism. Having worked for nearly a century through communal organizations, the courts, and interfaith dialogue to achieve a tolerant and cohesive society largely free of anti-Semitism, itâs anguishing for American Jews to watch current immigration erase this outcome. However uncomfortable, American Jews must grapple with the issue: they have a greater stake than other Americans in how this policy plays out. ...

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the garbage dumped in your back yard, the log-thump music all night long and the abuse of your children and their heritage are meaningless, paleface. what counts is how it affects jews. their goal of dissolving the white race has a price, it seems.

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http://www.emediawire.com/releases/2004/3/emw110381.htm

All Press Releases for March 10, 2004

Department of Justice Petitioned to Evaluate Gibson's "The Passion of the Christ" for Violations of Hate Crime Statutes

A new petition implores US Attorney General John Ashcroft to evaluate possible actions against the creators of Mel Gibson's "The Passion" for violation of state and federal hate crime statutes in the purposeful encouragement of anti-Semitic violence.

UNION, NJ (PRWEB) March 10, 2004 -- Mel Gibsonâs "The Passion of the Christ," through purposeful rewriting of the Christian Gospel mythos has, itself, become an anti-Semitic diatribe which, since itâs February 25, 2004 release resulted in hate crimes against Jews, Synagogues and Jewish Cemeteries in cities throughout the US. Mel Gibsonâs unbiblical and a-historical account of the "crucifixion" story has taken Hutton Gibsonâs claims that the Holocaust is "fiction," even one step further.

Just as Adolf Hitler described the 300th anniversary performance of the Oberammergau Passion Play as "a convincing portrayal of the menace of Jewry" in 1934, Gibson and Writer/producer Tom Fontanaâs 2004 use of extreme graphic and excessive violence set up and perpetrated at the urging of "the Jews" in their portrayal displays a clear prejudicial bent against the Jewish faith.

Roman Catholic Biblical Scholar Father Gerald Caron, Professor of Biblical Studies at the Atlantic School of Theology in Halifax, calls Gibson's film "anti-Jewish, theologically flawed and historically dubious." In an interview with Rabbi Tovia Singer for Israel National Radio on the date of the filmâs release, Dr. Caron stated "The teaching of contempt ö hate of the Jews or hate of their religion ö is part and parcel of Christian history. This is a Christian problem that we have to get rid of, and its not a movie like this one that will help us continue our efforts to get rid of the denigration and condemnation of our Jewish brothers and sisters."

United State law defines "bias related" or "hate crime" to mean a "designated act that demonstrates an accused's prejudice based on the actual or perceived race, color, religion, national origin, sex, age, marital status, personal appearance, sexual orientation, family responsibility, physical handicap, matriculation, or political affiliation of a victim of the subject designated act." Depending on the state, criminal and / or civil laws may apply, as well as recently enacted Federal statutes.

A digital petition at www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/765533849 implores US Attorney General John Ashcroft and the US Department of Justice to evaluate the anti-Semitism clearly presented in Gibson and Fontanaâs portrayal, and asks that civil, criminal, and Federal hate-crime laws, as appropriate, be utilized not only against the perpetrators involved in each and every act which it has encouraged, but against the directors, producers, and screen writers responsible for the work itself.

The Messiah Truth Project, Inc. is a 501(c)3 non-profit educational organization established to combat the deceptive missionary techniques of evangelical Christian denominations and the Messianic movements through Torah education. Tax-deductible contributions may be made by mailing a check or money order to: Messiah Truth Project, Inc., P.O. Box 445, Union, NJ 07083-0445.

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Caiphas would be proud of this!

http://www.aztlan.net/modern_crucifixion.htm

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Here.

ANTI-SEMITISM AND ANTI-ARYANISM

by H. Millard (c) 2004

"If you're a non-Jewish white person of European descent, keep your eyes straight ahead. Don't stare at anyone lest it be taken the wrong way. Don't smile at them for the same reason. And, especially, don't laugh if someone who looks different than you is nearby. Don't read this or that book. Don't raise your arm a certain way. Don't wear this or that symbol. Don't talk about certain historical events. Be careful of every word you say. Don't feel pride in who you are. The eyes and ears of the Thought Police are everywhere watching and listening to you. They are ready to pounce. Your white skin makes you suspect of thinking the wrong things. Welcome to Europe, your ancestral home."

Some say that anti-Semitism is a problem in the world. The truth is that anti-Aryanism seems to be the larger problem.

We live in crazy, repressive times. Hatred for white people is endemic. Europe, the ancestral home of white people, is being destroyed--eaten away from within. Haters rule and they color their genocidal lies with fine sounding phrases while multiracialists work overtime to wipe out all whites. The white masses are being told that any expressions of their whiteness are evil. Many people are confused and are going mad within their skins as they try to stop being what they truly are. They limit themselves and their aspirations lest they do something wrong. Once, they were a free and growing people, and the world was their oyster. Now, many of them have become emotional slaves to non-white sensibilities and they are contracting. Their once positive, expansive, anything goes, and I can do it attitude is now subdued. As a race, they seem to have become old and decrepit.

They often deny that they are a people lest they be called racist or anti-Semitic. The dangers that face them are Biblical in proportion, yet few see the truth. They deny their own extinction even as they see it before their own eyes. They listen to that age old deceiver Everyone. And, as is so often the case, Everyone has led many astray. "If Everyone believes that multiracialism is good, it must be so," they reason. Those among them who believe in the Bible or those who read history books should already know that they should ignore Everyone and read their books and understand that many times in the past Everyone believed something and it was false. Everyone once believed that the earth was flat. Everyone also once believed that the earth was the center of the solar system. Everyone once said that things were okay in Sodom and Gomorrah. Everyone once said that Noah was wrong. Everyone once said to buy stocks on margin. It goes on and on. Forget Everyone. He's an idiot.

The twin claims of racism and anti-Semitism are in Everyone's quiver of words to try to fool you into your own genetic suicide. If you let yourself be wounded by these claims you'll be forced to live a milquetoast life in which you barely exist as a genuine authentic person. And then you'll die in the night and no one will care and no one will remember you and you might as well not have lived at all.

To really understand the often false claims of racism's twin, anti-Semitism, we should probably remind ourselves of a few foundational terms and concepts that are in play in such a discussion.

First of all, a "people" is a group of genetically similar individuals. These similar genes give the people its natural and primary (God given, if you prefer) physical characteristics and its identity. Beyond providing the physical characteristics and identity, our genes are also programmed to have us higher-thought, thinking animals take on secondary identities based on beliefs which are often philosophical and religious. While these things--these abstract ideas--are of the mind, the mind is of the brain, and the brain is of the body, which is of the genes. It is to the genes that these abstract ideas are most beholden.

In the best of circumstances, these secondary identities are also mostly the natural products of our personal genes and the collective genes of those like us as these genes react to the world around us and send signals to our brains which then wonder about the big questions and send us to find answers that help us. With proper thinking and guidance we find some of the right answers. However, in the worst of circumstances these secondary identities are unnatural and are used to control us, sometimes to our own detriment. Everyone is often in this second category these days. Let's try to not be like Everyone.

It must always be clear that the secondary identities, which are dependent on thought, do not trump the primary identities that do not require thought and which we are born with. For example, if we are born with blue eyes, we may secondarily believe that we have brown eyes, but our secondary belief doesn't change our primary reality.

We also need to know a little about the word "Aryan." No matter what Everyone tells you, this is an appropriate shorthand term for "non-Jewish white people of European descent," and saves a lot of words. However, there are those who hate Aryans and who try to falsely convince others that the use of this word is somehow anti-Semitic. This tends to deny Aryans a word by which they may define and identify themselves. Those who demonize the word are often making a hateful attempt to keep Aryans from unifying as the distinct people that they truly are.

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I assume that you have read all of this?

http://www.regmeister.net/verbrecher/verbrecher.htm

And:

Go rent the musical [movie] "The Music Man" starring Shirley Jones and Robert Preston [circa 1961 or so]. About 3/4 through the movie, a group of people are shown dancing in a park. At one point, they are dancing on a round area/platform which looks like it is made of concrete or stone. The camera is high up in the air at one point, pointing downward. The dancers move away from the center of the round 'platform' -- towards the edge -- at one point. After that happens, freeze the tape/DVD. What do you see in the round platform? What design? It is kinda faint but you can see it clearly.

Let VNN readers write in and tell of what they saw. I will not spoil it by telling you what it is.

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3may, 2004

Thedebate between Christian and classical civilization is helped by reading Gore Vidal's novel Julian, about Julian the Apostate, a Roman emperor who tried to cut out the Christians and restore paganism. I urge you to read it. It's well-written, witty, very historically accurate, and talks a lot about the way Christianity stole a lot of pagan religious ideals to graft it onto theirs. Also, it gives us a lot of insight into our struggle. Read it.

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What the hell is "conservative"? What the hell is "liberal"? This is problem. Labels that define an undefinable. Conservatives are wanting too conserve what?

In 1776 a conservative would have been someone wanting to preserve the crown and a liberal someone wanting to liberate itself with independence.

In 1861 a conservative in the north would be a Lincuntite wanting to preserve the union while the liberal was the CSA wanting to liberate itself from tyranny although using todays liberal definition the yankees would have been the biggest bleeding heart liberals on the planet trying to free the negro slaves while the south would be the biggest conservatives wanting to maintain the FF dreams of states rights and white supremacy.

Xianity can be viewed from both ends of the specturm as both liberal and conservative. Xians used their religion to justify their white supremacy and that the black race was cursed. Liberals used the peasant messiah factor to show how he hated the rich and praised the poor.

Xianity runs the whole nine yards and both ends of the spectrum. It is both conservative and liberal just like everything else in history depending on which side you are on and in what time period or your definition.

Fact is these 2 fucking worthless labels are meaningless. Just be your fucking self and too hell with all the other stereotyping bullshit.

White is white. White is supreme. White is superior. White is right. White is Xian. Its a white mans world and daytime and light are white just like the white Creator and superior advanced white brain matter.

And for all the atheists apenigkike lovers, ALL of the worlds major scientists were white and Xian. This even includes Darwin who was raised in divinity schools too. Newton was a white Xian. Pasteur was a white Xian. White Xian scientists invented all forms of science and all forms of technology. Physics, chemistry, kineseology, thermal dynamics, aeronautical engineering, mechanical engineering, electrical engineering, molecular technology, atomic technology, etc etc. The list goes on.

They were all white. They were all Xian and this just scratches the surface of this field. Everything else including art, culture, classical music, thermodynamics, radar, rocket scientists, global exploration, space study, geology and archeology, computer technology, agricultural science, etc etc was done by European Xians.

White
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not the jewatheistnigspic

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NEWSFLASH KERRY SPEAKS TO ADL, FARRAKHAN NAMES THE JEW. SEE IT ON CSPAN. ALL JEWS ALL THE TIME TELEVITZ

http://www.c-span.org/

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Editor-in-chief of U.S.-funded Iraqi newspaper quits, complaining of American control

http://www.boston.com/dailynews/124/world/Editor_in_chief_of_U_S_funded_P.shtml

BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) The head of a U.S.-funded Iraqi newspaper quit and said Monday he was taking almost his entire staff with him because of American interference in the publication.

On a front-page editorial of the Al-Sabah newspaper, editor-in-chief Ismail Zayer said he and his staff were ''celebrating the end of a nightmare we have suffered from for months ... We want independence. They (the Americans) refuse.''

''We had a project to create a free media in Iraq,'' Zayer said of the founding of Al-Sabah. ''They are trying to control us. We are being suffocated.''

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Let's bring that out as point 2), the bigoted false identity made of Christianity and the West. What was it that existed in Greece and Rome, Pat? Did Christians build the Colisseum and the Parthenon? Were Plato and Socrates Jesus fans? Are they less Western than you because their dads didn't raise them Catholic? Two facts Buchanan avoids are that the Western spirit and race existed before Christianity, and Christianity now includes more non-Western people than Western. What is quintessentially Western is not a religion or any religion, but its comparative lack of religion.

THANK you, Alex! I for one am SICK TO DEATH of enduring that one bit of claptrap revisionist history foisted upon us by self-congratulatory holy-Joes, to wit: Christianity gave us Western Civilization. (When they weren't charging their betters with heresy or burning "witches" at the stake, that is.) Now if you wanted to claim that Christianity served as the training wheels, or perhaps the pinafore, of white civilization, I might be somewhat swayed. At least that theory would help explain the decline of the West over the past century in that it would summon up the indelible image of a grown man wearing a child's bib and riding a Big Wheel to work - i.e., these things are fine and even beneficial for small children, but woe betide those who refuse to eventually outgrow them.

Deep down, I think the Faithful know it too. Y'ever notice how - when they tire of equating Christianity with art, science and applied mathematics - they revert to that dyspeptic back-up of how X million Amurricans regularly write checks to televangelists, thus it's a foolish WN who would dare antagonize this Sleeping Giant?

Uhhh- which is it, fellas? Mozart and Malthus, or "BEWARE OF DOG"?

Il Ragno

Ed. Note: The Christians want it both ways. Whatever good happened where the majority was Christian they attribute to their religion. Whatever bad happened, why, they had nothing to do with it. Christ, Stalin grew up in a damn seminary. Hitler was as Catholic as they come. Your Big Wheel comment is just right. Christianity may lend some stability for dopes, but for intelligent men, all it does is pander to wishes and longings, and cloud their ability to perceive reality. Christianity is messed up at the core: based on the Biggest Lie, that reality is optional. Every other standard the conservative holds dear goes out the door when it come to Jesus. We're supposed to laugh at the liberal who says government can cure poverty, or educate niggers. We're supposed nod in agreement with the Christian who says his Jesus can heal the blind and come back from the dead. There is no difference between these claims. What we know of this dubious fellow comes solely from jews of the very sort which murdered tens of millions of Christians in the Soviet Union and warmonger today in Iraq. They have credibility only as liars. It is no accident that men like Mencken and Twain, atheists, were far better to their wives and friends than your average Christian. They were far funnier and more intelligent than the Christians of their day, too. Why be a Christian when you can be a man? Otherwise you end up a fool like Buchanan, proving earnestly time after time that your beautiful church was NOT on the side of the men fighting her worst enemy.

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Photos Show Rape of Iraqi Women by US Occupation Forces

by Ernesto Cienfuegos
La Voz de Aztlan

[Image] Los Angeles, Alta California - May 2, 2004 - (ACN) The release, by CBS News, of the photographs showing the heinous sexual abuse and torture of Iraqi POW's at the notorious Abu Ghraib prison has opened a Pandora's box for the Bush regime. Apparently, the suspended US commander of the prison where the worst abuses took place, Brigadier General Janis Karpinski, has refused to take the fall by herself and has implicated the CIA, Military Intelligence and private US government contractors in the torturing of POW's and in the raping of Iraqi women detainees as well.

[Image] Brigadier General Janis Karpinski said to the Washington Post that Military Intelligence, rather than the Military Police, dictated the treatment of prisoners at Abu Ghraib prison. "The prison, and that particular cellblock where the events took place, were under the control of the Military Intelligence command," Brigadier General Karpinski said to the Washington Post Saturday night in a telephone interview from her home in Hilton Head, South Carolina.

[Image] Brigadier General Karpinski, who commanded the 800th Military Police Brigade, described a high-pressure Military Intelligence and CIA command that prized successful interrogations. A month before the alleged abuses and rapes occurred, she said, a team of CIA, Military Intelligence officers and private consultants under the employ of the US government came to Abu Ghraib. "Their main and specific mission was to give the interrogators new techniques to get more information from detainees," she said.

[Image] Today, new photographs were sent to La Voz de Aztlan from confidential sources depicting the shocking rapes of two Iraqi women by what are purported to be US Military Intelligence personnel and private US mercenaries in military fatigues. It is now known that hundreds of these photographs had been in circulation among the troops in Iraq. The graphic photos were being swapped between the soldiers like baseball cards.

[Image] Speaking on condition of anonymity, one Mexican-American soldier told La Voz de Aztlan, "Maybe the officers didn't know what was going on, but everybody else did. I have seen literally hundreds of these types of pictures." Many of the pictures were destroyed last September when the luggage of soldiers was searched as they left Iraq, he said

[Image] An investigation, led by Army Major General Antonio M. Taguba, identified two military intelligence officers and two civilian contractors for the Army as key figures in the abuse cases at the Abu Ghraib prison. In an internal report on his findings, Major General Taguba said he suspected that the four were "either directly or indirectly responsible for the abuses at Abu Ghraib and strongly recommended disciplinary action."

[Image] The Taguba report states that "military intelligence interrogators and other U.S. Government Agency interrogators actively requested that Military Police guards set physical and mental conditions for favorable interrogation of witnesses." The report noted that one civilian interrogator, a contractor from a company called CACI International and attached to the 205th Military Intelligence Brigade, "clearly knew his instructions" to the Military Police equated to physical and sexual abuse. It is not known whether these instructions included, or led to, the raping of Iraqi women detainees as well.

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La Voz de Aztlan
http://www.aztlan.net/iraqi_women_raped.htm

WARNING: GRAPHIC RAPE PHOTOGRAPHS!

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try to get a $3000 housing grant if you're White

K

City's home-purchase grants for Hispanics raise legal doubts

$3,000 payments aim to attract immigrants

By Laura Vozzella

Sun Staff

May 3, 2004

Eager to attract immigrants to a city they've bypassed for decades, Baltimore is offering a limited number of $3,000 grants to Hispanics who buy houses here.

Legal scholars and others - ranging from conservative critics of affirmative action and advocates for Asian-American rights to fair housing experts and the local head of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People - question whether the offer is legal.

The grants stem from Mayor Martin O'Malley's ambition to increase Baltimore's immigrant population. The money will be available to Hispanics, however, regardless of whether they are new arrivals to the United States. The grants have no income limits and can be used to buy a house selling for up to $300,000.

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Do all the self proclaimed atheist ape lover VNNsteiners understand that atheism and judaism are one and the same as they continue to spew the big lie about how xians and jews are the ones who are so close? Even the very definition of "atheist" is broken down as "a"theist or "anti"theist. Theist is the very definition of xianity. How much closer to "anti"theist or "anti"xian could a jew be? Jews hate xians. Jews loathe xians. Jews despise xians. Jews abhor xians. Jews seeth with hatred for all xians.

Thus the atheist or anti-theist or anti-xian is in all reality the definition of the jew although we know the jew scholars will never use this politically incorrect in this this fashion.

Nobody hates xians worse than jews. Muslims do not hate xians. Hindus do not hate xians. Pagans do not hate xians. Buddists do not hate xians. etc etc.

The ONLY sect on earth that hate xians are the jews aka atheist or anti-theists or anti-xians.

This is why it is so ironically hilarious to read where VNNsteiners call themselves "atheists" which simply another label for "jew".

Jews and atheists go together like stink and shit, like faggots and assholes, like dykes and cunt, like niggers and crime, like pimps and white hos, like kikes and hollywood, like Lincunt and race traitors, like spics and tacos, chinks and rice, like apes and jewniged VNNstein Darwinist pussies.

atheist=jew=atheist=jew...

anyway you dice it it comes up jew

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Alex,

Might you consider putting a "Friends of Israel" Feature daily [+/-] on your front page?

Not just a link - but quotes and with your comments, too. LOL There is a ton of good 'features' out there to choose from... good pix/images, also!

SIEGE!

Press Release: U.S. Evangelicals support Israel's targeting of terrorists

http://www.ifcj.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=5613

U.S. EVANGELICALS OVERWHELMINGLY SUPPORT ISRAEL'S RIGHT TO TARGET TERRORIST LEADERS

Friday April 2, 2004

By: The Fellowship

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Contact: David Kuner, (312) 641-8685 Alexis Grund, (312) 641-8682

April 5, 2004 - Evangelical Christians in America overwhelmingly support Israel's right to dictate its own defense policy and defend itself through targeted attacks on terrorist leaders, according to a survey released today by the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews.

Ninety-nine percent of the 1,140 evangelical respondents to the survey, which was conducted among more than 1,600 registered users of IFCJ's website, responded "yes" to the question, "Do you agree that Israel has the right to defend itself by eliminating terrorism at its source?" In addition, nearly 96% responded "no" to the question, "Do you believe U.S. leaders have the right to restrict Israel's response to terror attacks?" The survey has an accuracy level of 95%.

"This survey offers further evidence if it was needed that evangelical Christians understand and agree with Israel's position," said IFCJ founder and president Rabbi Yechiel Eckstein. "Those who condemn Israel's efforts of self-defense, whether from the U.N. or the World Court at the Hague, do so at a safe distance. It is easy enough, after all, to decry Israel's efforts to protect its citizens when you do not have to put your children on a bus to go to school every day in Tel Aviv or Jerusalem.

"Our evangelical friends do not make this critical error. They have put themselves in our position and come to the only reasonable conclusion possible that just as other nations make the decisions that are best for their citizens, the Israeli government, not foreign officials, are the best people to make decisions that affect Israel's security and, indeed, the very future of the Jewish state."

Results also indicated a heavy strain of political realism among evangelicals. Fewer than half of evangelical respondents (45%) believe that the removal of Yasser Arafat would "pave the way for peace" in the Middle East. "Evangelicals know that Israel's security depends on much more than just one man," Eckstein said. "As much as they might love to see Arafat removed from power, they understand that this would not be a panacea, but only part of an overall strategy meant to cripple an ingrained terrorist infrastructure."

He added that, in light of Israel's current struggle, evangelical support should be a source of strength to Israelis, and a model to anyone who cares about freedom in the Middle East. "Israel, the only true democracy in the Middle East, is gravely going about the business of trying to ensure its existence in a sea of hostile neighbors," he said. "This is the right of any sovereign nation. Its enemies have proven that they will not hesitate to murder innocent people.

"Evangelicals know this is a conflict in which it is necessary to choose sides, and they have placed themselves on the right side of the conflict. They know that when they stand with Israel, they stand on the side of peace, freedom and the rule of law, and against terror and tyranny."

The International Fellowship of Christians and Jews, based in Chicago and Jerusalem, promotes understanding and cooperation between Jews and Christians and builds broad support for Israel and other shared concerns. The Fellowship has contributed nearly $100 million in recent years toward Jewish immigration, resettlement, social welfare and security projects in Israel

"We must realize that our party's most powerful weapon is racial tension... and ( it will be ) the process which will deliver America to our cause."

(Jew Israel Cohen, A Radical Program For The Twentieth Century. Also entered into the Congressional Record on June 7, 1957, by Rep. Thomas Abernathy).

http://adlusa.com/ractens.htm

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Hi Alex,

I've just read your long-awaited report on the Sacramento revisionist conference, and am in full agreement with most of your insightful comments. I was, however, taken aback a bit by your emphasis a couple times on the age of the conference participants. While there were certainly at least one or two nonagenarians present, I thought most of those present were around my age or even younger. I guess that really puts me in my place. I realize that I am rapidly approaching official senior citizendom, but I think I still have a few good years of fight left in me and hope I don't appear to have "one foot in the grave." But you are right in a sense: no one would ever mistake this revisionist audience for a group of skinheads at a white-power concert. Seriously, it was my pleasure to attend this conference with you and I look forward to reading the rest of your report.

best wishz,
rich brooks
http://www.whitealert.com

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Whilst not defending the actions of your American leaders today, I find your attitude towards just about every issue appalling. Having read Max Haddens report on the outcome of WWII if Germany had won, I am saddened that a clearly educated and coherent writer is wasting his talent following beliefs that cost the lives of millions of people.

As a critique, every point of his article is either false, in-accurate or insanely biased beyond a point of reasonable or moral subjectiveness, the only obstacle I have in writing a full critique is the clearly single-mindedness of the recipients, and I know my efforts would be wasted.

Your countries foreign policy at the moment is morally retarded, and I would not be surprised if it resulted in something akin to a civil war, what horrifies me the most is the people like yourself that are their to take over,

Baj.

An atheist white Englishman. Married to a Belgium, ancestral immigrants from Germany(fathers side) and Asian blood line to India (mothers side). No such thing as White Americans, you're ALL immigrants.

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Georgia Supreme Court Overturns Black Teen's 10-Year Sentence for Having Sex With White Gi...

http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGAR0HOPSTD.html

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On kike-loving shithead schwarz&nigger here....Mike Kaye

http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGAF5PHOSTD.html

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:: DŽclaration officielle des Identitaires ::

Bonjour,

En raisons de circonstances exceptionnelles, vous ne retrouverez la lettre Žlectronique des Identitaires que mercredi.

En effet :

- la publication, dans VSD de jeudi dernier, d'accusations diffamatoires ˆ l'encontre du Bloc Identitaire (reconstitution de ligue dissoute et incitation ˆ la haine raciale),

- les inacceptables profanations de cimetires ce week-end et l'amalgame mŽdiatique qui les ont accompagnŽes, notamment sur France 3 samedi,

- la rŽsurgence policire d'un certain nombre d'affaires o la mythomanie et la parano•a le disputent au folklore,

- la tenue, aujourd'hui, d'un conseil interministŽriel sur le racisme et l'antisŽmitisme,

sont autant d'ŽlŽments constitutifs d'un climat rŽpressif que nous ne connaissons que trop bien.

En consŽquence de quoi, nous tenons ˆ procŽder ˆ la double mise au point suivante, ferme et dŽfinitive :

- pour nous, rŽsistants identitaires europŽens, faonnŽs par des sicles de civilisation hellŽno-chrŽtienne, les morts, TOUS les morts, sont sacrŽs. Toute dŽgradation de tombe, quelle qu'elle soit, s'apparente donc ˆ nos yeux ˆ un acte de barbarie inacceptable et mŽprisable,

- en 2002, militants politiques, nous avons, sans hŽsitation, tournŽ le dos au folklore, ˆ la nostalgie et ˆ la mythomanie pour assumer, AU GRAND JOUR ET DANS LA LƒGALITƒ, notre combat pour la libertŽ et l'identitŽ de notre peuple.

Afin de ne laisser planer aucun doute sur notre dŽtermination, nous chargeons, ds aujourd'hui, nos avocats de porter plainte contre France 3 et VSD pour diffamation.

Fabrice ROBERT, prŽsident du Bloc Identitaire
Guillaume LUYT, prŽsident des Identitaires
Philippe VARDON, prŽsident des Jeunesses Identitaires

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Reuters Cameraman Killed For Filming U.S. Graves: Brother Mazen found U.S. troops covered in plastic bags in remote desert areas and he filmed them for a TV program By Awad al-Ragoub, IOL Correspondent AL-KHALIL, West Bank, August 19 (IslamOnline.net) - The brother of Reuters cameraman Mazen Dana said he was deliberately murdered for discovering mass graves of U.S. troops killed in Iraqi resistance attacks. "The U.S. troops killed my brother in cold blood," Nazmi Dana told IslamOnline.net in exclusive statements. "The U.S. occupation troops shot dead my brother on purpose, although he was wearing his press badge, which was also emblazoned on the car he was driving," he said. He also recalled that his brother had obtained a prior permit from the U.S. occupation authorities in Iraq to film in the site. On Sunday, August 17, U.S. troops shot dead the award-winning Reuters cameraman while he was filming near the U.S.-run Abu Gharib prison in Baghdad. His last pictures show a U.S. tank driving toward him outside the prison walls, several shots ring out from the tank and the camera falls to the ground. Mass Grave "Mazen told me by phone few days before his death that he discovered a mass grave dug by U.S. troops to conceal the bodies of their fellow comrades killed in Iraqi resistance attacks," Nazmi said. "He also told me that he found U.S. troops covered in plastic bags in remote desert areas and he filmed them for a TV program. We are pretty sure that the American forces had killed Mazen knowingly to prevent him from airing his finding." Nazmi said that the U.S. occupation troops were slowing down the transfer of his brother's body to his hometown city of Al-Khalil (Hebron) in the West Bank. "At the very beginning, the Americans refused to transfer his body outside Iraq. After Reuters intervened they offered to allow us to take the body to Jordan by road but we refused because of the state of insecurity in Iraq," he said. "Thanks to Reuters international and diplomatic contacts, the U.S. troops reluctantly agreed to transfer the body on an army plane to Kuwait. From there, the body will be flown to Jordan and finally Palestine to be laid to rest," added the grieved brother. Last Mission Mazen's wife, Umm Hamza, did not rule out that the U.S. troops targeted her husband personally, noting they had agreed to give him a permit to film Abu Gharib prison and then he was directly shot dead by two U.S. tanks. Resolved as she was, Umm Hamza said the death of her husband came as a bombshell, especially that she expected him to be killed while covering the developments in Palestine for his bravery and rare heroism. "Filming Abu Gharib was his last mission; he was scheduled to leave Baghdad after getting the job done. "I lost the dearest man to my heart, he was caring and was loved by all his friends and relatives," she lamented. Settlers' Enemy Palestinian journalists hold a mock funeral for Mazen Mazen's camera was the Israeli settlers' archenemy, given that he exposed to the entire world their terrorism against the Palestinians and their wildcat outposts sprawling in four Al-Khalil posts. His death cast a pall of sadness over the Palestinian territories and reporters, who mourned him as "a matchless colleague." All international and local news agencies sent cables of condolences to his family, lauding his patriotism and determination to uncover the truth wherever it was. The Palestinian information ministry and press syndicate issued two separate statements, condemning the attack on Mazen and the continued targeting of journalists. The two statements demanded the U.S. to show some respect for human beings, particularly reporters, pointing out that Mazen was a distinguished journalist who did his best to serve his country and cause. The ministry further urged all Arab and international press unions "to open a probe into this crime and expose to the entire world the murderers who have blood on their hands and put them on trial." Colleagues Mourn Furthermore, dozens of Palestinian journalists protested on Tuesday morning in Al-Khalil at the killing of Mazen. The marchers put on a peaceful demonstration from the House of the Palestinian Press established by the deceased and other journalists. In Bethlehem, journalists also held a mock funeral for Mazen, denouncing the U.S. occupation of Iraq and displaying placards condemning his "assassination." A U.S. military inquiry has recently exonerated an American tank crew for firing on a Baghdad hotel housing journalists, killing two foreign reporters and wounded three others. ======================================

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*Mind Control*, the absolute best of the new work coming to DJ-88.com, satisfies the lighter side with a haunting melody with undertones of severity. Felkeles, which means "uprising" in Hungarian is the name of the group, and we're proud to have them on our team. DJ-88.com Staff

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Saddam's non-existent 'people shredder'

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VNN readers should know that a backup copy of JewishTribalReview is available on Archive.org

Here.

and that most of its pages can still be accessed through Google's cache. If you type "jewish site:jewishtribalreview.org" in Google, you'll find almost all of JTR's pages. Just click on 'cached'.

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the most Jewy movie on the entire planet.

 The Jewsweek Jewriffic Awards

The 11 most remarkable things in Jewish culture this week including the most Jewy movie on the entire planet. by Benyamin Cohen

May 2, 2004

HIGH ON THE JEW QUOTIENT: Ben Stiller and Rachel Weisz are just two of the many Jews involved in the new film Envy.

1. The most Jewy movie of the week: Envy starring members of the tribe Jack Black (yes, he's Jewish), Ben Stiller, and Rachel Weisz, directed by Barry Levinson and executive produced by Seinfeld creator Larry David. And, to top it off, the film's title refers to one of the Ten Commandments.



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So These Two Jewish Guys Walk Into a Theater . . .

May 3, 2004

By BERNARD WEINRAUB

"Jewtopia," a play in which a gentile slips into the world of Jews, has become one of the most improbable theatrical hits in Los Angeles.

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Apparently two of the Iraq prison torturers were Jewish. One civilian contractor is a "Mr. Israel" -- a touch of levy-ty amidst the horror. More on Stephanowicz below.

Here.

Command Errors Aided Iraq Abuse, Army Has Found

By JAMES RISEN

An internal Army investigation has found a virtual collapse of the command structure in a prison outside Baghdad where American enlisted personnel are accused of committing acts of abuse and humiliation against Iraqi detainees. A report on the investigation said midlevel military intelligence officers were allowed to skirt the normal chain of command to issue questionable orders to enlisted personnel from the reserve military police unit handling guard duty there.

The Army has already begun one investigation into the abuse allegations. Maj. Gen. George R. Fay, the incoming deputy commander of Army intelligence, is examining the interrogation practices of military intelligence officers at all American-run prisons in Iraq and not just the Abu Ghraib prison....

The report identifies Col. Thomas M. Pappas, commander of the 205th military intelligence brigade, Lt. Col. Steven L. Jordan, the former director of the Joint Interrogation and Debriefing Center and Liaison Officer to the 205th Military intelligence Brigade, Steven Stephanowicz, an Army contract employee from CACI, and John Israel, a contractor and civilian interpreter with CACI, as the people suspected of being "either directly or indirectly responsible for the abuses at Abu Ghraib."

The report concluded that Mr. Stephanowicz made a false statement to the investigation team regarding the "locations of his interrogations, the activities during his interrogations, and his knowledge of abuses." It recommended that he be dismissed.

Mr. Israel, the report found, "denied ever having seen interrogation processes in violation" of Army standards, "which is contrary to several witness statements." Colonel Pappas was recommended for a reprimand for, among other things, failing to supervise his soldiers properly, and failing to ensure that soldiers under his direct command knew, understood and followed the Geneva Conventions for the treatment of prisoners of war....

Good stuff at The Whiskey Bar:

http://billmon.org/archives/2004_05.html

An Iraq Prison Diary

Bernhard, a Whiskey Bar reader in Germany, has made a spectacular catch - or cache, I should say, since it comes from the bowels of the Google data base. What he stumbled across is the diary of one Joe Ryan, a frequent caller and on-air personality at station KSTP, a conservative talk radio station in Minneapolis. More recently, Joe has been serving as a military interrogator at Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq, and KSTP has been posting his diary on their web site.

For some strange reason, though, the radio station recently removed Joe's diary from its site. Unfortunately for KSTP - and, I suspect, for Joe - the page has been cached by Google. A copy also now resides on my hard drive. The diary is a fascinating read - not least because it documents the fact that as of last Sunday, one of the private contractors identified in the Army's own internal investigation of the torture scandal was still at Abu Ghraib, and may still have been supervising or conducting interrogations.

The contactor's name is Steven Stephanowicz, and he works for CACI International - one of two firms that have been publically linked to the abuses in Abu Ghraib's high-security cell block. CACI has told the Los Angeles Times that it " knew of no allegations of abuse" against it's employees. But here's what Sy Hersh reported on the New Yorker web site yesterday:

General Taguba urged that a civilian contractor, Steven Stephanowicz, of CACI International, be fired from his Army job, reprimanded, and denied his security clearances for lying to the investigating team and allowing or ordering military policemen Ňwho were not trained in interrogation techniques to facilitate interrogations by Ôsetting conditions' which were neither authorizedÓ nor in accordance with Army regulations. ŇHe clearly knew his instructions equated to physical abuse,Ó Taguba wrote.

According to Hersh, Taguba's report was completed in late February. And yet, here's what Joe Ryan, our radio personality turned military interrogator, put in his diary entry for April 25:

I got to take the rest of the day off after our long booth time. This gave us a nice evening after dinner to head to the roof and play a round of golf. Scott Norman, Jeff Mouton, Steve Hattabaugh, Steve Stefanowicz, and I all took turns trying to hit balls over the back wall and onto the highway.

Unless there have been two Steve Stefanowicz/Stephanowiczs working as interrogators at Abu Ghraib, it appears the Army not only ignored Gen. Tagabu's recommendation that Stephanowicz be fired and stripped of his security clearances, it didn't do anything about him at all -- leaving Mr. Stephanowicz free to continue his "work" at the prison (with time off for the occasional round of golf.) I think this gives us a pretty good idea of how serious the Army was about correcting these abuses up until the point where they were splashed all across the global media....

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RE: Mean comments and polls on Forum, "Would you do her," etc.

I don't participate on this Forum. I am not criticizing the women who do participate, but I see it as men's space. Men don't have any space, not even in traditional spheres like politics and the military, and they are angry. I just come from two very old-fashioned European families, where women didn't have to be told to go off by themselves after dinner so the men could talk alone. So, I stand down.

But I will express my opinion here: Too many white girls are told that they are ugly. How about telling white girls that they are white? Compared to what else is out there, is any white woman really ugly? For the most part, "ugly" white girls just need help with one of three things: their weight, skin, or teeth. Problems in these areas are usually related to economics, that is, they are problems that cost money to fix. Drastic problems can be fixed surgically. I won't get into that, but I have noticed that the women I see with black men and the so-called lesbian feminists appear to be taken from the same pool of women. Don't be surprised when "ugly" women go running off with black men who value them because of their whiteness, or with lesbians who tell them that women are superior regardless of their looks. Maybe you don't care, but I think that most of them are probably not ugly, they just need some help with their appearance and self-esteem.

And re: Kind Lampshade Maker:

"The estrogen runs out at age 46 which puts you on an equal heart attack risk with dudes."

No it doesn't, little Austrian boy.



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