Bill White Attacks VNN October 21, 2003

Honorary Jew Bill White Attacks VNN October 21, 2003

Chronology of White's Implosion (read from top down):

August 23, 2003

From: "Bill White"
To: ;
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2003 8:47 AM
Subject: 1099 Info So I Can Pay You for ShopWhite

Hi Vic and Alex:

It is looking right now like ShopWhite is going to generate enough revenue that I am going to be able to send both of you a check for either $300 or $400 this month.

If you guys could send me your 1099 info -- the name, address and SSN/EIN of the person or entity you want the check made out to -- it would be greatly appreciated.

I'm not sure how much lag time we have in credit card billings being transferred to the bank account, but I know there is some. Checks should, though, be sent out within a week or the start of the new month.

Bill

October 19, 2003

From: "Bill White"
To: ; ;
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2003 8:35 PM
Subject: Overthrow/ShopWhite Incorporating

Hello all:

I am going to incorporate a new business, White Politics, Inc, in the State of Missouri, and transfer ownership of them to myself for the moment, and likely to another business, White Web Publishing, Inc, that I will be forming in the near future.

The reason for this is to protect by legal liability should suit be brought against the site.

If any of you are interested in owning stock in the company, please email me here or at bwhite@mail.overthrow.com. I can make either preferred, convertible preferred, or common stock available. My guess for an initial share issuance will be 1000 shares at $10/share, with about 150 shares issue to me and the remainder either unissued or issued to other investors. I intend to hold a controlling interest in the company, regardless of other investments.

The filing for this corporation will be made in the next few days; I will probably incorporate it myself as the sole incorporator and then bring new investors in as needed. Purchasing of stock will give you a formal interest in both Shop-White.com and Overthrow.com

Bill

October 20, 2003

From: "Victor Wolzek"
To: "Bill White"
Cc: "1a_Alex Linder"
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 5:09 PM
Subject: Re: Overthrow/ShopWhite Incorporating

Bill,
Interesting proposition. I'll have to mull this over. I have an initial question and a request:

1) Question - How much $ exactly do you currently owe me and Alex from ShopWhite? A couple months back it was $300 - $400 that you said you were going to issue. Please calculate the subsequent amount owed to this initial unpaid amount and let me know the total amount owed.

I know at the time of the first payment you said you would make, I asked you to give the amount owed to me to Alex, but I don't think that payment was made, and now I may wish to put some of that amount toward shares in the corporation.

2) Request - Please provide your social security number so that I may do a credit check, a key factor in deciding whether or not I should invest in this venture.

I cannot seriously consider your offer until I have these two bits of info, so please reply promptly.

Thanks,
vw
cc: Alex Linder

October 21, 2003

From: "Bill White"
To: "Victor Wolzek"
Cc:
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 5:52 AM
Subject: Re: Overthrow/ShopWhite Incorporating

Well, since neither of you have provided me with 1099s, right now I owe you $0. Alex and I can work something out, but you I just don't like.

Bill

From: "Victor Wolzek"
To: "Bill White"
Cc:
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 6:57 AM
Subject: Re: Overthrow/ShopWhite Incorporating

Bill,
Your reply was unresponsive. Whether 1099 info was previously provided does not affect what you owe. Nor does your personal opinion of those you owe, however it may fluctuate.

The two legitimate and rudimentary questions remain to be answered:

How much money do you currently owe me? The originally stated $300-400 is established and documented. The question is what, if any, amount has accrued after this initial debt? Please advise.

And what is your social security number so that I may run a credit check?

Please respond promptly.

Thank you,
vw

CC: Alex Linder

From: "Bill White"
To: "Victor Wolzek"
Cc: ;
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 9:07 AM
Subject: Re: Overthrow/ShopWhite Incorporating

Vic, I owe you zero.

In light of this asinine reponse, I have filed the incorporation paperwork for White Politics, Inc with the Secretary of State today.

While I don't really want to deal with Vic, his suggestion of rolling ShopWhite earnings into equity is probably a good idea for you, Alex Linder, and possibly Alex DiCivita as well.

It is law that stock cannot simply be "given" to someone by a corporation; it can only be issued in exchange for consideration -- usually money, though real estate or other assets can be considered. Thus, I cannot simply "give" anyone stock, and I am not being "given" stock myself -- I am purchasing it as anyone else. I know Vic with the law, so perhaps his remarks are the result of a misunderstanding.

The reasons for incorporating in this manner are as such:

Given the lawsuits that have been brought against VNN I can see the writing on the wall, so to speak, as to what is probably coming down the road in terms of ShopWhite/Overthrow. Also, I would like to easeup the ShopWhite user agreement, and feel that limiting liability is an important prerequisite.

Ultimately, I will probably establish a number of corporations -- one to hold my web publishing business, which will own my political publishing business, which will own ShopWhite and Overthrow as separate businesses. This will compartmentalize everything and create maximum protection. However, as I am not 100% familiar with the process for incorporating in Missouri, I want to start with one corporation -- and since Overthrow and ShopWhite are the sites I am most concerned about protecting, they are the ones I am incorporating together.

I don't know what Vic's problem is, except that he seems to object to professionalism in general, have a very short fuse, view everything as conspirational against him, and is generaly immature and excitable. Because he is a VNN principle I feel he should be included in this offering, but with his current attitude I am concerned that including him is more of a potential problem than a potential benefit.

In any case, that is what is occurring. Once the corporation is formed, I will leave 800 - 850 shares unissued in order to bring on board anyone who wants to be involved.

Corporations distribute money through dividends, salaries and contracts, and I expect those who are being compensated to continue to receive compensation despite the change of ownership.

I will also be discussing this issue with other potential investors in the near future. I will provide the name of any other investors to all of you when they are known.

Bill

Bill writes:
>>Vic, I owe you zero.<<

Bill, you are mistaken. Per the email below, you owe me $300 - $400 from August. Assuming SW has done some business since August, there's an additional amount to be added to the sum you already owe me. Please calculate that sum and let me know the total current amount owed to me.

If the $300 - $400 you owe me may be put toward stock in SW, please forward your social security number to me so I may run a routine credit check as I consider investing in your venture.

If the $300 - $400 you owe me may not be put toward stock in SW, then please do as I originally requested and give the $300 - $400 you owe me to Alex Linder.

Thank you for your cooperation,
vw

CC: Alex Linder and Alex Dicivita

From: "Bill White"
To: ;
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2003 8:47 AM
Subject: 1099 Info So I Can Pay You for ShopWhite

Hi Vic and Alex:
It is looking right now like ShopWhite is going to generate enough revenue that I am going to be able to send both of you a check for either $300 or $400 this month.

If you guys could send me your 1099 info -- the name, address and SSN/EIN of the person or entity you want the check made out to -- it would be greatly appreciated.

I'm not sure how much lag time we have in credit card billings being transferred to the bank account, but I know there is some. Checks should, though, be sent out within a week or the start of the new month.

Bill

From: "Bill White"
To: "Victor Wolzek"
Cc: ;
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 9:59 AM
Subject: Re: Overthrow/ShopWhite Incorporating

The total sum is $0.00. If you disagree, you may direct legal correspondance to:

William A White
Post Office Box 49
Defiance, MO 63341

As a general principle, I don't believe it is possible to enter into an agreement with an unregistered fictitious entity, such as the name "Vic Wolzek".

Further communication on this issue will be ignored.

Bill

From: "Victor Wolzek"
To: "Bill White"
Cc: ;
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: Overthrow/ShopWhite Incorporating

You just make sure that $300-400 you're pinching from me goes to Alex Linder, as I originally requested.
Ya got that, beefy tits? Good.

vw

From: "alinder"
To: "Bill White"
Cc: "victor wolzek"
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 1:28 AM
Subject: Re: Overthrow/ShopWhite Incorporating

Bill - I can only shake my head at your words. I've put up with a lot of nonsense from your end, hoping against hope there was some ultimate rationality in what you were doing. At this point, all I see is the damage you've done to VNN's reputation, while profiting hugely off work you never would have had without us. You have no call to insult Wolzek, and that you do I take personally. You ought to be thankful you ever met VNN, and respectful of what we have accomplished, and grateful for the chance to profit from contracting with us. You ought to be, but you aren't.

You talk about professionalism. Let's review:

1) You were the one who attacked Strom publicly and needlessly, when it all could have been handled behind the scenes. That backfired, gained us nothing, created bitterness and hate that can't be repaired. It alienated many good people -- for nothing.

2) Then, under your watch, despite your vaunted technical expertise, the CC info got hacked. Probably a lethal blow for ShopWhite, save its complete divorce from Bill White and relaunching with extreme focus on customer security.

3) And now that the money from Moran no longer flows, you have no interest in fixing bugs I have told you about repeatedly. Hey, why should you? It's just one of those "team" things you do as a matter of course for people who trust, people who've put their reputation on the line defending you and your true but stupidly couched charges against NA, Strom, etc. Furthermore, you have jerked the site down on whim, screw the work I've put into building up VNN's reputation for reliability. What's my reputation to you? Nothing. Whatever your ego demands, you do. Screw anyone else.

4) You repeatedly discuss on Overthrow things that concern me and Vic, Moran and others, without ever taking into account whether we want that stuff posted, or whether it is good for the team we've been trying to build. You are not fit to work with others - that is the only conclusion that can be drawn from repeated examples of your behavior.

Let me tell you something that you need to hear, although I'm sure you're not prepared to accept now. You are delusional. You pay no attention to how people are actually responding to you, nor your effects on others. I seriously doubt you realize that people's lack of trust in you is what is preventing ShopWhite from taking off. Wolzek, who is very well thought of by exactly the people we need to make ShopWhite a success, is the only guy besides you who has been working his ass off trying to make ShopWhite an organic reality. I specifically asked you to work with him because I have to attend to VNN editorial and can't scan photos. Your response is to ignore him, insult him, leave the business subject to your whims and personal schedule. And then attack him for exactly the characteristics your behavior exhibits. Wolzek is a first-rate writer, professional ad man, and trusted friend of mine. Speaking objectively, you are not a pimple on his ass for professionalism.

Now you balk at paying us the 800 we were promised months ago. You talk about selling to me shares in a business that you were paid EXTREMELY HANDSOMELY to build FOR VNN. That is plus-sized chutzpah. That is rich and jewy.

What I want you to do, and what you will do, is pay me the money we were promised. That simple. You write up your tax papers however you want, and I will do the same. I'm keeping my personal information to myself, because I think that's good for me, and right now that's all I care about.

A.

From: "Bill White"
To: "alinder" ;
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: Overthrow/ShopWhite Incorporating

Hi Alex:

In response to your letter, it is time for you and I to terminate our relationship.

I'm not sure quite what terms are desired, but email me something and we can discuss it. I'd prefer a written agreement to the effect that:

1) You and Wolzek and I acknowledge that neither party has claim over the other -- we don't owe each other any money or have other obligations.

2) You and Wolzek and I agree not to discuss each other further in any public forum.

3) I yield to you all rights to VanguardNewsNetwork.com, its site engine, its data, its hosting accounts, its name, domain name and the like.

When and if you want to agree to those terms let me know. Until then I will consider our previous relationship in effect. If we can't reach agreement I will have the current hosting, which I am paying for, shut down. You are welcome to find someone who will provide it for you.

Alex, to respond to you personally, what you do not realize is that you are personally unsuccessful, bankrupt, incompetent in managing your business, legal and personal affairs, and not in any way qualified to criticize me. I don't like having this VNN role thrust upon me, and I don't have time to work for you for free; rather than understanding that I have a life outside of the internet, you insist that I volunteer time for two individuals who have never been particularly grateful, and who have become outright hostile for inexplicable reasons. Your participation in everything, up to and including the NA debacle, was your choice -- what is more noteworthy is your marked inability to role with the punches. VNN is as popular as ever, and the only thing that has hurt it is yours and Vic's inability to update it regularly.

In addition, I can see what is coming: Your inability to do simple things, such as take the legal steps necessary to protect you against the kind of lawsuits you are being subjected to, is going to lead to you being put out of business. You have my sympathies, but I am not going down with your ship.

I thank you for freeing me of this obligation I had to Marc, and look forward to resolving this expediently. I never really enjoyed working with you -- Marc and I were friends, but you have always been incompetent and excitable and as I had confided to Marc, I was not hopeful of your long term success.

Let me know what can be done to expedite this termination. I look forward to your response.

Bill

From: "Bill White"
To: ;
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 8:52 PM
Subject: VNN

Hello Alex and Vic:

Two quick things:

1) What's Walter Mueller got to do with all of this?

2) I don't want to speak to either of you orally right now -- as in over the phone. Please keep communications in writing. WHen we reach an agreement, let me know.

Bill

http://www.overthrow.com/lsn/news.asp?articleID=6125

Overthrow.com and VNN Parting Ways Relationship To End
10/21/2003 7:01:53 PM

Bill White

Site Announcement -- Overthrow and ShopWhite are parting ways with VanguardNewsNetwork. We are working on an agreement to do so peaceably, though if this becomes ugly, you will get all the juicy details.

The bottom line is that VNN and some of its principles are having a lot of problems -- legally, financially, politically and personally. Because I was given charge of managing the business aspects of the site, there are those who wish to place the blame for all of those problems, including the personal ones, upon me -- as if I have not met some obligation to them -- and I cannot work in an environment where no one wants to address issues -- like the lawsuits that are likely going to shut the site down simply because they are not being defended -- and instead everyone wants to blame me like some nigger on welfare blaming the white man for being broke.

So, that said, our partnership will be ending, and I wish Alex and Vic luck.

http://www.overthrow.com/lsn/news.asp?articleID=6126

Mueller Backs VNN?
Homosexual Nazi Involvement?

10/21/2003 11:59:21 PM

LSN Messageboard Post -- [Bill: The following was posted today to our messageboards by a reader of Walter Mueller's, the ex-gay rights activist turned National Socialist. Glen Miller is a police informer though I don't recall the details. I disagree about any Mueller involvement at this point in time, since his involvement is unncessary to explain our differences.]

[From the LSN Messageboards:]

No sooner has LSN announced that it is no longer keeping company with VNN than we hear Sacramento's Walter "The Mule" Mueller is joining forces with VNN -- as well as one of the worst traitors and informants of the 1980s, Glen Miller.

Since last week's exposure of Mueller as a homosexual, using open-press sources, "someone" has hacked the password of nogaypatriots@yahoo and, in a frenzy, has blamed the expose on "The Jews" as his elderly followers leave him in droves and he is reduced to a laughing stock. Here is the Mule's email:

Dear Fellow Patriot!

I prefer that people underestimate me, especially the enemy. It actually amuses me when I see how little attention some people pay to the Patriot Letters. I received a book by a man named Glen Miller. It was free, with a personal note in it:

"To Walter Mueller, a fellow spreader of truth. Expose the Jews. Best Wishes. Glen Miller."

I have never met the man. But that doesn't mean that I don't know who he is. Pay attention. I always do my homework. However, I play by the rules of common courtesy, manners and respect. Mr. Miller hasn't done anything to me. I reject calls for violence and racial slurs and, if he still wants to work with us, I welcome him.

What he has done in the past is none of my concern, as long as he doesn't bring it into my line of work. However, if he wants to help with distributing Community News and help get the news out, more power to him. Mr. Miller tells me that he distributes every week 400 issues of the American Free Press. Now how is that for action? He knows the rules and if he doesn't play by them, I will discontinue my relationship, if there is any.

On the same issue, I received an e-mail about Alex Linder, who is running the Vanguard News Network. Whether or not Mr. Linder is a good buddy of Bill White does also not concern me. I am not the Canadian government, who finds people guilty by association. And, of course, I knew that, and again, I believe that Mr. Linder is old enough to chose his own friends.

It reminds me, when Dr. Toben made the comment to me once that we should support people who produce actual work and are good at it. Mr. Linder's website is audience driven, in my opinion. And that makes his website already one of my favorites. There are many websites which are "me"-driven, meaning the entire website is about one person. So, those of you who think that Mr. Alex Linder is a "me" person, I suggest, go look at his website. He has the largest reader mail I have ever seen on any other website. I really don't care what his personal opinions are, because he lets others have their on his website. We are not just talking about two or three - a whole lot of them.

May I emphasize again, those who never forward mail from their readers are either megalomaniacs or got no readers. [LSN: Or just don't get that many letters worth forwarding ;-D]

Just the other day, when I was on http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com I found under readers mail a letter from a reader about Sophia Loren, and an incredible picture of her. I was amazed, since I always thought that many Americans don't know European actresses. Sophia Loren was one of the best and most beautiful ones.

But I digress. Back to my point. I always know who I am dealing with. So, I suggests, leave the bashing to Bill White, because as long as someone treats me with respect, I extend the same courtesy.

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Now here are a couple of letters about Glen Miller:

[START} I'm amazed that you even mention Glen Miller. You obviously don't even know who he is. CARLOS [END]

[START] As you can guess--if you've even noticed--I rarely comment on the contents of your e-mail newsletters, which are always read with interest. You get enough as it is. But, this time, I feel somewhat compelled to. First, I must commend you for your policy of not necessarily guaranteeing a favorable review to a book just because someone sent it to you. Gives a little more credibility to the ones you do recommend. Particularly disturbing is mention of A "White" (????) Man Speaks Out by Glen Miller. The reason I put "white" in quotation marks is a rather shameful, even unforgivable, period in his past. The younger ones not around back in the 80's can almost (almost) be excused for their ignorance of past events. Miller puts out an impressive autobiography. Yes, back in the 80's, he formed and led a group in NC which did do some impressive work. Then, with a little heat, he rolled on some of his former people, who went to prison. Then, he ended up testifying for the government against Pastor Richard Butler, Louis Beam, the late Pastor Robert Miles & the Order prisoners in the 1988 Ft Smith "Sedtion" trials. In short, the "man" is a traitor! The defendants were acquitted, which too many seem to foget. Miller disappeared from sight for awhile. I was appalled when I was fwd a link to this "cool" website (by a resident of your state, as a matter of fact) by a young dedicated activist who I think was about 25 at the time, only to find the website was Glen Miller's.! So, I rather tactfully let the young lady know about the big hold in Miller's story. There are others who were around then, some still in one of ZOG's gulags, who are even more angry over this. A good question is raised--and so far unanswered. How can a traitor like Glen Miller be allowed to slither out from under the rock from which he hid, and re-emerge in the racialist right, apparently with impunity? How can any decent racialist, patriot, or whatever label one prefers to describe one's particular inclination, even fathom for a minute helping promote anything written or published by such scum? No, I'm not implying you are. Evidently you are not. Maybe you are even unaware of this past history. (So, please do not misinterpret this as any slam directed against you, because it isn't.) But, too many who were around then, and who do know this "man's" past, have done just that! John [END]

Another response to the Malaysian PM:

[START] I thoroughly agree with you as to the Malaysian PM's statement. It should certainly be circulated widely, but to glorify him is, as you say, ridiculous. Harrell Rhome Eagle Publications [END] "Halloween"

[START] You may not know it but a fantastic archaeological site has been discovered in Germany, also in Sachsen-Anhalt. It's near the town Nebra, near the border of Thuringen. It's being called the "German Stonehenge" and like its' namesake, it is an astronomical calendar where pagan rites were performed. It is much larger and older than Stonehenge. Also discovered near Nebra was an astronomical disc, 32 cm wide, the oldest of its' type ever discovered. Check out " German Stonehenge Nebra on Google.com . Best Ed [END]

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Let me introduce you to two essays. One from South Africa and one from a revisionist in Australia. The one from South Africa is concerning Korea:

[START] What do you say to this article - the United States of Israel's war planning department needs the 100% support of the leading White nations, so they fabricate this threat - very well thought out. Now we see North Korea coming up for attack from USI. (USA is outmoded) Note that USI causes the mess in Iraq and now calls on France, Germany and Russia to carry the financial costs which USI now bears in Iraq. Mark my words..........Iraq is another Viet Nam where the USI will be the loser. The USI has many billions of Muslims set dead against them (Jihad) while the USI is represented by a couple of million Jews who "milk" the white nations to finance their very existence in Israel. For one, without the Taxpayer in former America, Israel cannot last financially. The cost to run Israel (a misnomer which should be The Land of Judah) under prevailing conditions of never ending conflict is prohibitive. Long ago while GOLD was still KING I once read in a TIME magazine that Israel stood on three PILLARS. Militarily USA was one, Gold wise South Africa was number two and Money wise Switzerland was number three. One must note that TIME magazine is the ZIONIST mouthpiece in former USA. The article came right from the horse's mouth. With the run up to attacking Iraq, the USI represented by Bush, fabricated the Weapons of Mass Destruction Lie to garner full support, worldwide, against "terrorism" when the CIA and the FBI and Mossad are the chief Terrorists, their track record indicates this, including the murder of presidents etc., John F Kennedy being one. The CIA masterminded Dr HF Verwoerd's killing in parliament too. Did you read Advocate PJ Pretorius's book "Sell Out"? He was a National Intelligence Agent in the former South Africa and an M I Officer in the former SADF, which worked very closely with Israel. Remember how Israel supported the former South Africa in many fields including advanced weapon manufacture. Remember when Israel was declared a polecat by the United Nations together with South Africa? Remember the Sports boycotts where Israel held it's mini Olympic Games in Tel Aviv while South Africa held its mini Olympics here? And then the CIA Zionist Jew, Dr Henry Kissinger orders our almost victorious SADF out of Angola and sells us down the river to where we now find ourselves. In English it is known as Backstabbing. Now they plan to stab North Korea. Adv. Pretorius knows what few know - another David Icke. His book is a "must read" book. Can you see what is being concocted in Satan's kitchen right now to justify war against North Korea? Read my email on this deceit in the attachment. You are in command of good English, let me have copies of letters you write on his subject. Since Aida Parker's death left a void, the upholding of TRUTH needs Aida Parker substitues. Egon [END]

And here is the one from Australia:

[START] When is Genocide true Genocide? by Chris Borleis Following extract of the Encyclopedia Encarta and Columbia have been remitted to help to understand the term of Genocide: �Genocide, in international law, the crime of destroying, or committing conspiracy to destroy, a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group. It was thus defined in the Convention on Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, which was adopted by the United Nations General Assembly on December 9, 1948.� "Genocide," Microsoft (R) Encarta. Copyright (c) 1993 Microsoft Corporation. �The U.S. has never ratified the convention, claiming that the provision for international tribunals and the principle of personal liability for national actions violate the concept of SOVEREIGNTY.� The Concise Columbia Encyclopedia is licensed from Columbia University Press. Raphael Lemkin invented the term of Genocide. Lemkin was a Polish Jew, who fought in World War Two the Wehrmacht as a partisan, escaped eventually over Sweden to the USA, where he became a prominent lawyer and participated as an adviser in 1945/46 at the International Military Tribunal (IMT) in Nuremberg in the prosecution of the alleged German war criminals. This term �Genocide� would eventually lead to the new Holocaust religion, a religion, which in terms of money would be significant in financing the establishment of a the new Jewish state of Israel. The term �Genocide� was also coined to propagate the brutality Jews had to endure under the Nazis with the intent to draw sympathy from the rest of the world for their own advantage. The Federal Republic of Germany (West Germany), an artificial partition of the former German Reich, concocted by the victorious Western Allies after the war, was made responsible for the alleged �Genocide� of six million Jews. The number of �six millions� is more significant then �Genocide� itself. While �Genocide� generated sympathy throughout the world, the impossible and extraordinary number of victims of the Holocaust provided blackmail and extortion. For this alleged crime of six millions perished Jews West Germany was made to pay the enormous amount of restitution (Wiedergutmachung) to this day. The demand for compensation applies not only to the victims of survivors or their kin, but also to the new Jewish state of Israel. The Holocaust legend is the cornerstone to discredit Germany, which had indulged in National Socialism promoting race consciousness, a virtue it has in common with Judaism. To understand the making of the state of Israel let us return to the events of the Great War: During that war the British government negotiated with the leader of World Jewry, Chaim Weizmann an infamous document known as the �Balfour Declaration�. In this document the British promised the Jews the transfer of Palestine, a land within the Turkish so-called Ottoman Empire. Turkey, an ally of Germany in WWI, was at that time the overlord over all the Arab land. In return for this promise by the English government Chaim Weizmann promised to bring the USA into the war against Germany, relieving battered Britain from defeat. Weizmann kept his bargain and the US joined the allies. But when the war had finally ended, and the Turkish Empire had been defeated and broken up, all Arab land was annexed by Great Britain and France, who divided the conquered territory amongst them selves. They called it �mandate� in disguise of colony. The Arabs, having been promised liberation of their overlord Turkey by Laurence of Arabia, an English mercenary and politician, were betrayed and suffered humiliation. Having fought and sabotaged against their overlord Turkey in the war of liberation they now realized that they had been fooled only to become the victim of a new overlords, the British-French imperialists. Betrayed were also the Jews, because when the war was won with the help of the US Britain retreated from its promise to hand over Palestine to the Jews. Having never consulted the Arabs in the matter, the British knew very well of Arab objection to a Jewish state on their land. Promises had been made during the frightful stages of the war, which afterwards were difficult to fulfill. It was clear to the Zionist Jews, that to achieve their goal a new war would have to be staged in the near future to bring the Goyem (non-Jews) to their Heels. Having been betrayed, they planned to destroy the British Empire in their fury. They would be instrumental in decimate the Arian gene pool (Genocide) in the coming European conflict. It easy to see who took over the command in Versailles where the belligerent combatants met and negotiated about what they called a peace treaty. When the victorious jackals finally met at the end of the Great War, they fought each other in Versailles over the territorial spoils of Germany, Austria and Turkey. An Jewish commission, lead again by notorious Chaim Weizmann of no less than 117 Jews were also present at this historic conference. Those gentlemen made their claims on the basis of having �determined� the outcome of the Great War. (New Jewish Encyclopaedia, Facts are Facts by Jewish banker Benjamin Freedmann). There were so many Jews in both delegations, that it was known by the term �kosher�, also as the �Warburg� delegation. Here we deal with two notorious bankers: the Warburgs. The American Jewish banker Paul M. Warburg, chairman of the US Federal Reserve Bank, negotiates Germany�s war debts with his brother, the German Jewish Banker Max Warburg of Warburg & Co. of Hamburg. Both are partners of Kuhn, Loeb & Co., which again is a affiliation of the Rothschild cartel. It is agreed that I.G Farben will form a cartel with Rockefeller National Oil, that IG Farben be floated on the American market and that the American investors finance Germany�s war debts. Max of Warburg and Co, Hamburg, becomes chairman of I.G. Farben of Germany, while his brother Paul becomes chairman of I.G. Farben of America. When in 1929 the Warburgs bring about the crash at Wall Street, the Warburgs had Germany�s war debt reduced to nothing. The reason for the rejuvenation of Germany�s financial affairs is easily explained: Before a new war could be launched Germany would have to regain its economic stability and industrial viability. This was achieved at the hands of Germany�s Finance Minister and President of the Reichsbank, known as the �Wizard�, Hjalmar Schacht, who had complotting with the governor of the Bank of England, Montagu Norman and the Banker Max and Paul Warburg to mobilize financial Germany to its former military strength in preparation for war. It was an easy matter to lure Germany into another war. Having deprived a proud nation of its right of survival in dignity, messed around in its internal affairs, annexed ancient provinces with its entirely population, robbed of its oversea colonies, and taken the Rhineland as collateral, it was not hard to imagine that the German people were longing for a hero to rise its nation once again to its rightful glory and equal statues in the world. The man in question was Adolf Hitler with a determination that shocked the world. He swore by the mighty God he would dismantle the dictate of Versailles peace by peace and so he did. The removal of the impossible creation of the �Polish Corridor� signaled the beginning of the Second World War. Prime Minister Lloyd George had forecasted the war in 1919 within twenty years but he was not aware that the agenda of World Jewry differed from British, French and German national interests. Foreign armies would fight for the benefit of Jewish Palestine, renamed Israel in 1948. The Polish Corridor In March 1933 Hitler became Chancellor of the German Reich. In March of the same year the parliament of the Reichstag granted Adolf Hitler the enabling act to govern by decree. In 1935 Hitler would implement the Nuremberg Racial Law, which originated in the Program of the National Socialist German Workers Party (NSDAP)� drafted in 1919. Paragraph 4 states: Only German nationals can be citizens of Germany. Only persons of German blood, regardless of Christian confession, can be German nationals. Thus, no Jew can be a German national. Paragraph 5 states: Whoever is not a citizen must be allowed to live in Germany only as a resident alien, and must be governed by the law of aliens. The Transfer Agreement puts �Genocide� in question: On August 7, 1933 leaders of the Zionist movement concluded a secret and controversial pact with the Third Reich, which in its various forms transferred some 60.000 Jews and $100 million to Jewish Palestine. In return, Zionists would halt the worldwide Jewish-led anti-Nazi boycott that threatened to topple the Hitler regime in its first year. Ultimately, the Transfer Agreement, also called The Haavara Agreement, saved lives, rescued assets, and seeded the infrastructure of the Jewish State in Jewish Palestine. While the rest of World Jewry was organizing an economic boycott of the new Nazi regime in Germany in the hope of breaking it before it could mount the �Holocaust�, the Mapai (Labour Party) faction of the Zionist Organization based in Jerusalem decided to make Nazi Germany Palestine's chief trading partner. The vehicle for trade was The Transfer Agreement. The Nazis and Labour Zionists had one very important thing in common: The Nazis wanted Germany ridded of Jews and the socialist Zionists did too, so long as they emigrated to Eretz Yisrael. To accomodate such a transfer of Jews, an agreement was arranged whereby each Jew wishing to leave Germany for Palestine would have to use his capital to purchase German goods there. Thus, while world Jewry was busy fighting Nazi Germany economically, the Mapai Zionists were saving Germany from financial ruin. In short, the Labour Zionists assured the survival of the Nazis. The Transfer Agreement, pp 107- Locker advised the Jewish Agency in Jerusalem that for tactical reasons, Zionists in all countries should avoid participating in the struggle against Hitler. Locker feared that open criticism of Hitler would precipitate crackdowns on German Zionism... Zionists were seeking detente with an enemy to achieve Jewish nationalism...But the American Jewish Committee's antagonism to anti-Nazi activity defied even their own definition of Jewish defense. pp 127- By linking the purchase of German goods to the settling of German Jews in Palestine...the Zionist movement would be obliged not only to refrain from and oppose any boycott, they would be obliged to aggressively sponsor German exports. pp 134/135- The German government felt certain it had triggered the breakup of the boycott because the Zionist movement would now be in the German export business...The Jews of the world would now have to choose between fighting Hitler and building Palestine...the plan was not a rescue or relief project. If it was, the Zionists would have labored for an agreement for Jews fleeing Germany without regard to where they sought refuge. The Haavara Agreement by Edwin Black, Brookline Books The Transfer Agreement spells out clearly that the Nazis intended no more and no less to expel Jews from Germany (and Europe) for whatever reason and transfer them to other places, namely Palestine. The Nazis fell short in the intent as the propaganda has it to exterminate the Jews. But Jewish propaganda has it that in 1933 Hitler promised not only to �rid Germany of its Jews, but to cleanse the world as well�. Haavara Agreement p6 This is plainly absurd and nonsense and an attack on Hitler�s credibility. World Jewry was absolutely beyond Hitler�s reach. He could not lay hand on all the Jews in the world and exterminate them. This is propaganda and brain wash. The perversity of foul smearing campaign has no limit when it is directed against self determination of any country, Germany in particularly. Hitler�s foresight also proved its worth at the time of the Crystal Night (Kristal Nacht) when he reprimanded his Minister Joseph Goebbels for having initiated the attack against Jews that night in retaliation for the murder of a German diplomat von Rath by a Jew. The costs of damages to Jewish business had to be paid for by German insurers. In spite of Hitler�s dislike of the Jews he was aware of worldwide public opinion and wished not alienate his country with the rest of the world. Therefore, much effort was made between 1933 to 1939 to transfer German Jews oversea and to Palestine. Raphael Lemkin�s �Genocide� terminology is far stretched when applied to Nazi Germany. Nomadic Jewish have multiplied ever since Germany laid down the arms in 1945, their genes have well survived. Quite contrary, they have gained out of their fiasco an independed national state and capitalized ever since. Israel infrastructure has been financed by Germany and the US. Their worldwide prestige has increased from the extent of their craftiness in manufacturing sympathy and recompense for their Auschwitz incarceration, after having declared war on Germany on the 3rd of September 1939 on Germany. While genocide means the termination of a gene, a people, the Jew is very much alive today. In all Western countries he has assumed his traditional appearance in media, movie and government. Multiculture (the mix-up of any homogenous gene pools) was first promoted by World Jewry. And the notorious �minority rights� were first imposed on Germany after WWI by the Versailles Treaty, later imposed on the rest of the world by the UN. Israel insists on an exception of this mix-up with other genes off course. He only will have to cry Auschwitz or gas chamber The Auschwitz saga was an utmost convenience to Germany�s opponents, in particularly to America and Great Britain. In blaming Germany having committed �Genocide� they hoped to cover up their own real Genocide committed against the population of native population of America, the Indians, in Africa several native tribes as the Zulus. The Zulu king was brought to England and carried in an iron cage through London. The Australian Aboriginals as a distinct ethnic group have been decimated and its culture and life stile destroyed. The Tasmanian Aboriginals have been exterminated altogether. Those were natives in their lands, contrary to the Jews in Germany, who were not natives to the land. And who had been given ample time to leave the country. The aliens pervert the course of destiny A H rallied the nation towards race consciousness. As Germany has been prone to foreign invasion over the last two thousand years it had to be prepared to resist any intruders. He cannot be blamed for that notion. The Jews have been race conscious throughout their history. Race consciousness kept their flock together and prevented them from extinction. Race consciousness also gave them specific distinction in culture and mentality. [END]

Walter F. Mueller
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http://www.overthrow.com/lsn/news.asp?articleID=6127

If Anyone Knows Alex Linder, Please Give Him Some Advice Open Letter For Assistance
10/22/2003 9:59:51 AM
Bill White

Commentary -- Hello everyone:
I really don't want to fight with Alex Linder and the pseudonymonous Vic Wolzek over VanguardNewsNetwork, and I'm not going to, not least of all because they have no leverage to fight with, but before they get screwed over, I wish someone who knows them out there would talk some sense into them.

First, I own all legal rights to the name VanguardNewsNetwork. I advised Alex Linder in August to take steps to secure his right to operate under that name independently of the lawyers, who ended up falling through after our sponsor withdrew, and Alex declined. When I discovered he had still not taken such steps more than a month later, I filed the paperwork and secured the rights in my name. Ironically, I was planning to talk to him, after filing the Overthrow incorporation paperwork, and transfer those rights to him; this disagreement broke out before I could do so.

What I have asked Alex and Vic to do is to make an agreement terminating our business relationship, stating that they and I don't owe each other any money and don't have any claims against the other, that we agree not to discuss each other in public, and that I agree to assign to Alex all rights to VNN and waive any claims I may have now or in the future.

Rather than agree, I've gotten "fuck you" letters from both Alex and Vic. As a result, I've temporarily suspended both of them from their positions as employees of VNN pending an agreement, and I've told them that if we cannot reach an agreement I will assume operations of VNN and either hire new editors or sell it. Now I don't want to do that -- all I want is to turn VNN over to Alex and divest myself of it, but he refuses to agree not to sue me if I do so ... Someone please talk to him.

Second, there is a dispute over the ShopWhite money which has been instigated by Vic Wolzek. I never really liked Vic Wolzek, not least of all because I don't know who he really is. When ShopWhite launched, I offered a deal to Vic and Alex to divide the money and told them that in order to do it I needed their 1099 info, since, legally, I own ShopWhite as a sole proprietorship. Vic Wolzek decided this was a conspiracy to discover his real identity and refused to provide it, and then persuaded Alex that I just asked for this info to hassle them and persuaded Alex to refuse to provide it as well. As a result, I have money set aside for them to claim as soon as I get their 1099 info -- but instead of giving me their information, they have sent me the demand that I pay them exclusively in cash anonymously and off the books -- something I have refused to do, not least of all because its illegal, and everyone is looking for something to stick us with that's illegal.

So in short, because Vic and Alex have decided that somehow they are permitted to operate in this world without any legal paperwork, they have refused to accept 1) rights to VNN; 2) the transfer to them of rights to VNN; and, 3) money that is due to them.

If there is anyone out there that can persuade them to accept my deal, please do so. Otherwise, I don't know how much longer VNN is going to continue to operate.

Bill

http://www.overthrow.com/lsn/news.asp?articleID=6128

Alex Linder Is Having A Breakdown Online Sorry Everyone
10/22/2003 1:37:14 PM
Bill White

Commentary -- Hello everyone:
I apologize for the trouble and disputes that are going to occur, but I am starting the process for asserting my rights to the VanguardNewsNetwork name. The exact procedure is a bit complicated, but the whole thing is going to take about 30 days or so.

I know Alex -- or knew him -- and his life is basically falling apart. He just doesn't know how to react to all the trouble he's in -- the States of Indiana and Ohio have initiated legal action against him, he is, personally, broke, he's made a mess of his website and his political associations, he's lost (well, never had)the rights to his own stuff -- and if I hadn't filed for them someone else was about to, and he refuses to make the most simple compromises that would allow me to turn everything over to him with no further involvement between us. Frankly, he's basically having a breakdown online. I'm embarassed for him, but I also can't do much about it.

If I were to point to a cause for this it is that he has been taking the bad advice of Vic Wolzek, of whom I know enough to know that he is utterly incompetent. A shame, itz, as VNN would say in happier days.

In any case, is only to keep some anti-racist group from taking the site from him in one of the myriad lawsuits they have brought, I'm going to be taking the next month or so and bringing the situation under control.

And I should remark that it saddens me greatly to see this.

Bill

October 22, 2003

VNN Re-Launches Old Design.

Alex Linder's frontpage explanation:

VNN: WHAT THE HECK IS GOING ON?

Why have we gone back to our original format? Simple. Bill White has locked us out of the new house Marc Moran hired him to build for us. He doesn't want us countering his smears, so he changed the password on the database that we have to go through to upload the site. So instead we have gone around the database, and will upload directly onto the server as we used to. Bill White may bluster and print lies and make threats and try to sabotage. Possibly he will succeed. But whatever he does to try to thwart us, it will only be temporary. VNN did exist, does exist, and will continue to exist. It will continue to grow and expand steadily as it has from day one. We will be bringing the forum back before the end of the year, you have my word on it.

In times of trouble, it is good to reflect on what created the problems in the first place. My reflection leads me to blame myself. I should have stepped in immediately when Marc Moran, without my foreknowledge, contracted with Bill White. My only defense is that I did not fully appreciate White's complete lack of loyalty to anything or body but himself, his complete lack of scruples, and most disturbingly of all his delusionality. His attempts to screw up a site you all visit and look forward to daily require no explanation. The executive summary here is that this guy was paid tens of thousands of dollars to build new VNN and ShopWhite. The money was utterly wasted. The same thing could have been accomplished using free software. With all that money in his pocket, you might expect at the least that White would bow out gracefully when it became apparent that our mutual venture ShopWhite could not survive readers' and potential users' legitimate distrust of him, and their extremely well grounded fear that their private credit card information would be spread all over the 'Net due to his technical incompetence or carelessness. All I can say is that I am sick over what has happened, and that as of this moment VNN completely severs any relationship with William White. The general opinion of Bill White is correct. To those who warned me, what can I say? I was wrong, and now I'm picking off the fleas.

Subject: situation

Dear Mr. Linder,

Sorry to hear about the Bill White clusterfuck, but I think VNN will be better off once the boil is lanced, so to speak. I never really trusted the guy (and no, that's not an "I told you so"). The thing I find most damaging about him is the innuendo rather than outright slander. He hints at unspecified "personal and financial" problems with VNN staff, knowing that it will most likely cause a drop-off in VNN donations since the NA fiasco of member dues going straight into the Gang's pockets is fresh in everyone's mind. Personally, I don't care where it goes (unless it's specifically marked for something else like the Doles fund). If it helps you pay your electric bill, what do I care? It still helps VNN stay around, and that's the important part, since we gotta keep a deathgrip on what few decent White media outlets we've got.

Anyway, speaking of Doles, can you give the readers an update on the case the next time you get in touch with Mrs. Doles? Also, I realize there won't be a matching challenge this time, but it might be worth consideration to do a similar challenge for Artie Wheeler. I don't know if the NA is taking care of him (I doubt it) but it would be a good thing to do and further show the NA rank-and-file that the "evil" VNN still cares about fellow Whites, regardless of what Strom & Co. tell them.

Regards,

MST

Ed. Note: White is a smart guy. I believe he honestly understands and hates the jews, and there is value in some of what he writes. I don't doubt his political motivations. His basic problem is psychological. He cannot communicate with ordinary people. He holds court and blows hard. He is utterly oblivious to other folks' reaction to him -- or may simply not care. He feels no loyalty toward people who have brought him substantial and well-paid work. If our positions were reversed, I'd be respectful, and thank him often for helping my business, and do the small nice things that build up relationships and make for trust and growth. He just isn't that type of person. I really think if anything at bottom he felt a real grudge that Moran didn't put the money into Overthrow. I think he felt demeaned that someone preferred the work of a grandmother-living peon to Important Bill. He seems to see himself as some kind of superior schemer. Look how the NA thing worked out for a real-world test of that self-perception, Bill. It all could have and should have been handled quietly behind the scenes -- although that is not for one moment to retract any charges I made against the Gang of Four, because everything I said about their corruption was and continues to be true. The final straw came yesterday when White dared open insult to people I trust and rely on; people who are far above him in competence, character, and communication skills. When I call him delusional, I am not trying to insult him, there is no other word to describe it. An example, which I hope won't be too personal. He's moving to Missouri to live with a girl he ceaselessly refers to as his "girlfriend," never using her name. Well, apparently she and he have made some kind of arrangement to live together, or acquire this property he has talked about. Maybe she really is his girlfriend at this point. But I first met her at the NA meeting in St. Louis a couple months ago. I subsequently spoke to her on the phone and asked her if she was in fact Bill White's "girlfriend" as he insistently, and really bizarrely, kept referring to her. "I am nobody's girlfriend," she said. Now, that is passing strange. I've never heard of anyone save a deranged teenager referring to an imaginary girlfriend. If the guy wasn't a selfish and dangerous viper, I'd feel sorry for him. He's got serious problems, and nothing he says about me, or VNN, will change that. I wish the young woman luck, and urge her to be very careful, because everybody who gets involved with Bill White seems to end up the same way. He's a little like the jews, if you think about it. Everybody reacts to him the same way -- everybody else is the problem. Sorry, Bill. You, itz.

As for Doles, I talked to Teresa about a week ago, and basically they're going to keep him in jail through the trial. The system is utterly corrupt. A nigger who murdered ten white people would be treated better than Doles has been for an alleged weapons technicality. We will let you know as the situation evolves.

Subject: Bill White on display

Alex Linder Is Having A Breakdown Online Sorry Everyone

10/22/2003 1:37:14 PM

Bill White

Commentary -- Hello everyone:

I apologize for the trouble and disputes that are going to occur, but I am starting the process for asserting my rights to the VanguardNewsNetwork name. The exact procedure is a bit complicated, but the whole thing is going to take about 30 days or so.

I know Alex -- or knew him -- and his life is basically falling apart. He just doesn't know how to react to all the trouble he's in -- the States of Indiana and Ohio have initiated legal action against him, he is, personally, broke, he's made a mess of his website and his political associations, he's lost (well, never had)the rights to his own stuff -- and if I hadn't filed for them someone else was about to, and he refuses to make the most simple compromises that would allow me to turn everything over to him with no further involvement between us. Frankly, he's basically having a breakdown online. I'm embarassed for him, but I also can't do much about it.

If I were to point to a cause for this it is that he has been taking the bad advice of Vic Wolzek, of whom I know enough to know that he is utterly incompetent. A shame, itz, as VNN would say in happier days.

In any case, is only to keep some anti-racist group from taking the site from him in one of the myriad lawsuits they have brought, I'm going to be taking the next month or so and bringing the situation under control.

And I should remark that it saddens me greatly to see this.

Bill

Ed. Note: This is a good example of what I say below. Bill appeals to a sympathetic audience that exists only in his head. The same audience that never showed up for ShopWhite because of his association with it. My writers and friends, among whom I'm very proud to number Victor Wolzek, exist in the real world. The only substantial danger VNN faces is continued association with Bill White, and that problem has been solved. Vindictive, petty, and delusional is no way to go through life, son.

Subject: situation

Dear Sir,

You have my moral support, for what its worth. You speak my mind for me and I admire your courage and candor. I hope that you are soon able to regain your voice on the internet.

All that I know about the unfortunate strife within the movement is what I can infer from your site and from Overthrow. It seems that you must do whatever it takes to; 1. maintain ZOG-legality, 2. regain complete control of VNN, and 3. avoid entangling alliances in future.

More power to you, you can do it and move on stronger for it. Your voice is needed: the word must get out.

Ed. Note: Good points. It seems to come back to character, doesn't it? For that reason VNN is completely independent of National Alliance's corrupt leadership and Bill White. The lesson learned is that no one will be allowed to help us with any strings attached. VNN will continue to scout for good Whites with good intentions and character, to ally with them and move the movement forward -- and I know those people are out there and that we will find them.

http://www.overthrow.com/lsn/news.asp?articleID=6136

More On VNN Only Because Its Demanded
10/23/2003 5:58:51 PM
Bill White

Commentary -- When I look at political groups, left or right wing, there is one presumption that really guides my thinking, and that is that the people involved in them are doing what they do because they have something wrong with them -- emotionally, intellectually, or otherwise. There are sensible people involved in politics -- and the people get more sensible as the politics get more "mainstream" -- but a disturbing number of people involved in politics in general are seriously dysfunctional and incapable of making intelligent or mature decisions, and that is as true for the Republican and Democratic parties as it is for the fringes of the political spectrum.

When Marc Moran discovered this principle -- when he discovered that many of the people he had been dealing with were using fake names, when he discovered how viciously the media attacked him -- an upstanding figure in his community -- when someone ratted him out, when he discovered how quickly the people he had given large sums of money to turned on him -- he withdrew from politics in disgust. I wasn't shocked when all this happened, though, because I expect no more and no less from people, and thus I enter into all deals with such people accordingly -- I enter them with maximum legal protection, money up-front, and no qualms about walking away. I recently saw the movie Dogville, which is not yet in theaters, and for those who have seen it or will see it, it reflects the same theme.

For those who don't know, Alex Linder has not been involved in the practical day to day affairs of VNN for a long time; he has really become a figurehead more than an active editor -- taking credit and blame for the work, but not really producing anything. Vic Wolzek, for at least the past nine months or so, has written about three-quarters of the spintros for the site, and as of today, the once robust VNN staff now consists of Vic Wolzek and Alex. Vic is a bit like the Kevin Strom of VNN -- as Alex descended personally Vic gradually pushed him aside and took over most of his editorial functions. Now, much of the writing most readers credit to Alex Linder is really the product of Vic Wolzek -- so much so that many didn't recognize the writing style yesterday when Alex posted his rant against me to his site.

Alex Linder did lift his head out of the bottle long enough yesterday to claim that I "betrayed" him, but I don't put much stock in drunked rantings. For those who didn't know this, most of the material Alex has published -- and I suspect Vic as well, though I don't know -- has been published under the influence of alcohol. Alex often likes to brag that he writes his "best stuff" when he is dead drunk. And while it is true that one can be funny while intoxicated, those who have seen this story know how it ends -- the drunk eventually gets so drunk he cannot produce, and then he crashes and burns.

I don't want to see VNN crash and burn, but I was willing to just pull out of it. After the money stopped flowing, I went back to working full time, instead of working for VNN full time, and I hired someone to maintain the day to day aspects of the site. The handful of technical problems that have occurred since then have been the result of an intelligent and talented person learning how to run a professional website; I begrudge the fellow his errors. Alex and Vic do, though, because they have no idea how to run a website, and have the emotional short triggers of someone who has had their emotioanl equilibrium knocked off keel.

But there are more serious issues to consider here. People like to attack me because I take action before problems fully develop, but I am strongly of the opinion that Alex Linder is like the drunk behind the wheel of a car who needs his keys taken away. I want him to continue editing and writing for the site; for that reason I have not yet pulled him offline entirely. I secured the rights to the ownership of the site in order to transfer them to him and help him with his legal problems, and I would like to still do so. However, in the interim, he needs to have some functions of the site taken from him to keep him from being destroyed.

On the other hand, I also admit that trying to help someone is usually not worth it, and I don't expect to spend a lot of time on this issue. I've requested some documents from the Secretary of State of Missouri that I'm going to take to ICANN and use to take control away from Alex. If ICANN refuses and I have to go to court, then I am going to let Alex meltdown. I'm torn between my sense of responsibility and my desire to just wash my hands of it, and because it seems like all of this can be done easily, I'm going to proceed.

Alex Linder has lied when he has said that he is not in control of the site, or that he has been locked out of any aspect of it. The truth is that he has total control of the site, but doesn't know how to operate it, and has likely broken it -- giving control over to Alex has been like letting someone "fix" a car body with a hand hammer -- he's just created more dents. I am not in control nor have I asserted control over anything he's doing at this point in time.

For those who are concerned about those who dislike me and the site, I'm just going to point out the obvious: Because I take care of myself in business deals, I always come out of them ahead. Because most people are just too dumb too take care of themselves in business deals, even though they had the same opportunity I did, they refused to take it. In this case, they refused to take the opportunity even when I tried to push it on them -- tried to get them to file for the rights to VNN instead of me, tried to get them to hold stock in the businesses formed around their websites, tried to get them in a position where they could live off the proceeds of ShopWhite -- and they have gotten what they deserved.

ShopWhite was a success when I had time to put into it. When I passed it over to Alex and Vic, both of whom were too broke to afford the $9.95 membership fee, it fell apart -- and then they blamed me for not volunteering my time full time to keeping it at full pace. ShopWhite will be back full time, but not until the paperwork comes back. Until then, it remains a trading platform for all of you.

As to forums and the rest, Alex is so broke he can't afford the few hundred dollars he needs to buy the software to run the forum; he doesn't know any code and make it run that way, either. Someone may give him the money or help him, but he isn't going far like that. Wolzek can probably keep Alex's operation running a bit longer, but Wolzek is a man of limited talent and is not going anywhere either.

There is the myth that Alex built VNN to its former height of popularity. That is not true. Alex was mired at about 20,000th place in readership -- on Alexa -- until the new framework launched -- and then he jumped to 10,000th place and beyond. Alex was also on the verge of having his application collapse under its own size and weight, which is why I was hired in the first place. His assertion that things could have been fixed with commercial software is as delusional as the readers who advise him are ignorant. I don't see much future there.

But as I have said, Alex is most likely going to be buried by the lawsuits that have both been brought against him and which are going to be brought against him; it is only because they are against him and not the site that I am bothing to assert any rights at all. While Alex will likely go down, the VNN website can be protected so it doesn't go down with him, and once Alex "hits bottom" and comes back up he can be thankful that the site is still there.

For those who expect the witty commentary and the VNN trademark humor to return, don't expect too much. Alex is reaching the point in his drinking where he is hitting diminishing returns, and he may very well go the way of Von Bluvens and suddenly dissappear into oblivion.

I know people hate hearing this, and they hate hearing it worst of all because I have profited from it and they know I can just smirk at everyone and walk away knowing that I made my buck. Ironically, it is the fact that I am not doing that that is drawing the most intense criticism, but there is little that I can do. One does not do right things to be praised, because it is the nature of base men that they hate any form of righteousness -- and with the existence of Jew culture, baseness has certainly spread among men.

Oct. 23, 2003

Bill White's "girlfriend" forwards one of his latest paroxysms of insanity TO ALEX LINDER with the subject heading "Cuckoo."

From: "Jennifer"
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 12:51:53-0500
To: alinder@kvmo.net
Subject: cuckoo

Re: Re: Alex Linder Is Having A Breakdown Online
By nrkybill
10/23/2003 12:33:18 PM

First of all, I didn't botch any security. The security breach was an inside job.

Second, I am trying to keep Alex Linder from coming out of this badly. Alex already does not have much control over VNN -- and it has nothing to do with me. Vic Wolzek has been writing about 75% of the content and editorial for the past nine months to a year, while Alex's personal situation has deteriorated. VNN is headed the way of the World Church of the Creator -- it is probably going to end up the property of the Civil Rights Commission of either Ohio or Indiana, if someone else doesn't take in a lawsuit first.

The third factor that has to be considered is that Alex is a heavy drinker, and I think that is contributing to this collapse he's undergoing. The things he has put out are totally false -- right now he is in total control of VNN, the software and the databases. His trouble is that he just doesn't know what to do with them.

If it possible to easily take control of VNN, and I believe it is, I am going to do so in order to protect it from Alex's downward spiral -- a downward spiral which has been egged on and encouraged by Vic, who sees himself as taken over the operations of the site in Alex's incapacity. When Alex comes to his senses, I will give it back to him in good condition; I think my comments about selling it were motivated more by anger than anything else.

What is going on with VNN really saddens me, and I can't help how it is perceived, but I am going to do the right thing regardless of whether people appreciate it right now or not.

Bill

http://www.overthrow.com/lsn/news.asp?articleID=6137

Gay Rights Activist Mueller Still Angry At Overthrow And Bill Wonders Why The Old Fag Hasn't Developed A Sense Of Humor 10/23/2003 11:52:56 PM Discuss this story in the forum Walter Mueller Commentary -- [Bill: Apparently Walter Mueller missed the sardonic humor with which I suggested that his gay rights activism has something to do with VanguardNewsNetwork. I think our educated readers can determine the fun and farcical material we publish from the stuff to be taken seriously. The driving force behind Alex Linder's irrational temper tantrum was Vic Wolzek combined with a few others who I'm sure we'll hear testifying at Linder's upcoming federal trial for soliciting the murder of a federal judge or whatever they get him on. For those who haven't noticed, the feds and the Jews have been launching a systematic campaign to wipe out white nationalist activists, and Alex Linder is in the next lot to go. People involved in extremist politics have to become a lot smarter if they don't want to find themselves abolished, and Alex just doesn't have those smarts. In any case, Walter Mueller doesn't have them either. I intersperse commentary with his remarks:] In recent Patriot Letters, I praised Vanguard News Network for its big platform of readers. [Bill: VNN had good readership, but, to be honest, it wasn't as good as we were really claiming, and it never broke "mainstream". It came close, but didn't get there, and isn't going there in the near future.] Sure, there are many things I disagree with. The racial slurs and the indirect call for violence. [Bill: Products of intoxication.] However, Alex Linder, who runs Vanguard News Network, also posts great revisionist news from Dr. Toben, Mark Weber, Dr. Bob Countess, Arthur Butz, and myself. The common denominator here is, again, respect. [Bill: Walter Mueller is a self-described homosexual who wrote psuedonyonmous letters to VNN saying that the white nationalist movement should open its mind on homosexuality. Should he be respected?] It looks like that Alex Linder got in trouble for realizing that we need to all work together and do things differently. Bill White from Overthrow.com, an agent paid by the Jews, couldn't stand the success of Linder's hard work. [Bill: An agent paid by the Jews, huh? Easy to say. Watch me: Walter Mueller is an agent paid by the Jews. Alex Linder is an agent paid by the Jews. William Pierce was an agent paid by the Jews. Willis Carto is an agent paid by the Jews. Mark Weber is an agent paid by the Jews AND Scientology. Does anyone in the white nationalist movement ever grow up past this kind of nonsense?] In an unprecedented attack, Bill White blames me for what he calls VNN's change of mind. [Bill: In a light-hearted moment of humor, we publish a reader's theory that Walter Mueller had a gay relationship with Vic Wolzek. I don't know -- I could believe it. ;-D] Alex Linder, I suppose, told Overthrow to go to hell. [Bill: Actually, I asked Alex if I could issue him some stock in ShopWhite. He, intoxicated, told me to go to hell. I asked him if I could give him rights to VNN and show him how to use the software. He, intoxicated, told me to go to hell. Alex's behavior was, well ... peculiar, but not totally unexpected. :-/] Bill White has attacked almost everyone that is successful. [Bill: Such as? Everything I've ever allowed other to comment on has been failing -- the National Alliance, which has become a sick joke made sicker by the fact it is an organization that exists by the mutual consent of the media, the Jews and the feds to pretend it exists -- Mark Cotterill, who I pointed out was being deported and who was deported -- Kevin Strom, whose whole life is characterized by personal failure -- the Reform Party, which fell apart. Basically, most people involved in white nationalist politics are miserable failures, personally and organizationally. Its really depressing. And the worst are the ones who spend time on the internet. The communists, the Republicans, the Democrats ... all the same.] He does it with lies, exaggerations, and insanity. Blaming me is actually flattering. I wish I would have this much power, but I don't. [Bill: This guy is too much. Was he born without a humor detector?] I think, what happened is that Alex Linder just realized that we've got to work together if we want to win a battle. [Bill: Alex Linder is working with Walter Mueller. That doesn't surprise me. -shakes head sadly then smirks at the sickness of God's humor- I have to say that the world is fair.] I e-mailed Mr. Linder and told him not to worry about the attacks from Bill White. This is what he e-mailed me back: "Right now, Bill White is holding us hostage. He changed our passwords, so we can't update the site and counter his lies at Overthrow.com. But, soon enough, we will be completely free of him and speeding forward. Depending on how things evolve over the next 24-hours, I may write a press release and I's appreciate you posting it on your daily Patriot Letter." [Bill: So Alex lied. He probably wasn't even sober when he concocted that. Alex's success has been built on the backs of other people -- Marc Moran giving him money, me giving him technology, Vic Wolzek writing for him -- and now his success is gone, he's buried in debt, he's drunk and he's angry. No passwords or anything else were taken from him -- he just got angry because he sent me a letter saying that he was the best thing that ever happened in my life, and I responded by telling him that right now I have a beautiful home in Missorui, a nice car, good income and a lot of fun, and keeping VNN limping along was a miserable task that I only took on out of loyalty to the word that I had given Marc Moran. I told him he was a pathetic loser and drunk who lost his opportunities to have a life outside the internet to pursue something that he was unqualified to hold on to, and that, in my humble opinion, he was hitting rock bottom and I wanted out. That sent Alex into a rage and I don't think he has calmed down yet.] I sure will. I also received another e-mail from somebody who seems to have been closely involved with Bill White and had this to say: [Bill: Care to say who?] "White has long been the model of pathology with his ability to distort and mislead. I have seen it time and time again that the ego-maniacal White will stop at nothing to assuage his ego, including writing letters to himself and publishing them as LSN readers. In a bid to appear important and popular, goes on self-promoting binges and loads Overthrow with phony articles after articles, making it look like they came from others." [Bill: Total nonsense. I'm not popular and just don't care to be. If I wanted to be popular I'd take a check from the FBI and have their informants promote me as the next white messiah. Overthrow is the place totally devoted to publishing what I happen to be thinking; to see any higher purpose in it or to believe that I have any aspirations to lead others is nonsense. I totally gave up on any meangingful politics coming out the segment of society we service about four years ago.] I couldn't have said it any better. But, to be fair, I checked with one of the common websites of the enemy and this is what www.citizensagainsthate.com has to say about Bill White, which is not only embarrassing for our movement, but also is making my point: [Bill: Ah. Citizens Against Hate. Good to see the fag has found a reliable source. ;-D] "White is busy with fostering the demise of the National Alliance (and it couldn't have happened to a more deserving group). It is utterly uncongruous to believe that the adherents to the White Power philosophy cannot see that which is so evident to others. This demise has been brilliantly orchestrated by White. Watching events unfold and seeing the bloody battle get even bloodier is good for an anti-Racist. Watching the racist right yahoos being dubbed and fooled and outed is absolute bliss." [Bill: If it were only true, I would be a genius. In reality, the government and various Jewish groups have been slowly picking off various white nationalist groups -- the NA, VNN, the WCOTC, various skinheads, etc. When I see it coming, I report on it. Sometimes, I step in and try to prevent it. While I have been perfectly capable of keeping those things that I run and select the people for solvent, I have found myself utterly unable to take the defectives and misfits that run other groups and do anything useful with them. I give people simple suggestions -- things like "incorporate an entity and transfer your assets to them in order to protect them from lawsuits" or "watch out, the INS is watching you" -- and either the people decide its too much work or they decide I must be an "informer" spreading "rumors" that they are in trouble or some other nonsense. It's hard to take some times; only after you've been in this for a while do you just get used to it.] And you know who this enemy group means. All those of you who believe a word that Bill White posts on Overthrow. This stuff is good for the enemy, but bad for us. If I had any part of the departure of Bill White from VNN, more power to me. But, it really is the growing of Alex Linder that is responsible for it. So more power to him. As I said in a e-mail to Mr. Linder, people like Bill White are dinosaurs and soon they'll be extinct. [Bill: Actually, let me comment here: First, Mr Mueller has repeatedly stated that I am an "old man" or a "dinosaur" or something similar. Let me make it clear -- I'm 26 and Walter Mueller is an old fag. Second, as to Linder, Alex is in a lot of trouble, and he is in denial over how much trouble he is in, and because of that he is in a rage at me, because its easier to scream that I'm responsible for his problems than to address things -- like courts and money -- that scare him and are beyond his knowledge and experience. Matt Hale went down this same way. Hale was someone who was always issuing proclamations about how he was going to kill this Jew or that nigger or whatever, and when people went out and committed crimes, Hale, being a dedicated revolutionary, went with the flow. When asked about how many supporters he had, he lied because he didn't have many. He played revolutionary -- and his followers played revolutionary -- and he had a great time until he got set up and put in jail. Then we found out that almost everyone in his organization was an informer of some sort -- from Jon Fox to Tony Evola -- and those who weren't and who had run around screaming RAHOWA and posturing as being so militant have been so shocked and devastated, etc. Now I have sympathy for Hale, but everything that happened to him could have been avoided. So I went and studied his case and looked at where what happened to him could happen to someone like Alex Linder, and I see what happened there happening here as well. Alex has the same personality as Hale and as some other white nationalists I know. Now, I admit that I have some sympathy for that personality that screams "fuck you" at everyone and tries to do everything on their own. I don't object to it -- I was the same way -- when I was 13. But I grew up, and when I meet men in their thirties and forties who are still like angry teenagers -- they are talking about "revolution" but are claiming that they "don't need money" and that they will start a revolution on their own and so forth -- I feel bad for them because they aren't going anywhere. The only times in history when men like that have gone anywhere is when they have been bankrolled by the very rich, and really that whole attitude on life is an avant grade-beatnik-hippie type thing that is very closely associated, in my mind, with Jewish communism. And, to face reality, Alex Linder has already been picked up once by a wealthy fellow, and may be picked up again, but he lacks the raw organizational and managerial talent necessary to build a large and successful organization -- whether a publication or a political group -- and, on his own, isn't going anywhere. But, returning to the Hale comparison, Alex has this avant garde "fuck you -- I don't need you" approach to life which has only gotten him this far because someone serious hasn't decided to put their thumb down and crush him. Now, they have started picking at him. The State of Indiana brought suit against him for $10,000 claiming he violated one of their civil rights laws. Alex's legal defense fell apart, his lawyer stopped responding to the messages when he stopped getting paid, and Alex has pretty much lost than 10 grand. Having seen that success, the people who have been pushing these campaigns against Alex took step two and had the State of Ohio bring almost the exact same lawsuit for another amount -- probably 10 grand, but theoretically 25 or 50. Alex could, probably, win these lawsuits, but like Tom Metzger defending himself in court, without a lawyer it doesn't matter what the law says -- Alex is going to lose. Alex right now is scrambling for $160 to buy a copy of VBulletin ... he won't even enter his defense. And then, when a judgement is brought against him, he will scream to the world that he will defy it to his death, and then he won't die -- he'll be overpowered by some cops who will forcefully take VNN from him (if I don't take it from him first ;-D) and possibly take Alex to jail, if they can find an excuse, to boot. And what is worse is that there is no reason for it -- a few precautions at the beginning would have saved a world of trouble at the end. But I have to admit that I did the same thing as Alex Linder and Matt Hale and the rest did; I just had the good sense to do it at age 18. It's like when I tell my father my latest investment and he tells me that may be okay for me, because if I go broke before I'm 30 its no big deal and I have time to recover, but at 64 he can't take the financial risks I do because if he goes broke, by the time he recovers he'll be dead. At age 18 you can be the crazy suicidal revolutionary, and if you survive it, which most do without much trouble because they weren't half as serious as I was, and you can get over it. At age 38 or wherever Alex is, you can't do that, because when they destroy him, that's it -- he'll be gone. But in any case, I lament too long. Walter Mueller is a silly fag. I really wonder about him, but I adhere to my rule of not calling anyone an informer if their odd behavior can be explained by personal failing. He is, however, a welcome distraction from fighting directly with Alex, which I find unpleasant, because I don't dislike Alex so much as I am a mixture of concerned, angry and disappointed that he is being such an ass, and so I don't take pleasure in the things that are going on. Still though, like everything in life I am rolling with the punches and finding a way to profit by them. If Alex decides to destroy his life, at least I can use his miserable story to entertain the peanut gallery. C'est la vie. Some people that is self serving and cynical, but I just say that the world is what it is, and I don't waste time trying to resist it or thinking that the fact that God chose to roll a boulder over a former friend is somehow wrong. Every momement I'm given in life is a moment that has been given me to enjoy and profit from, and if someone else chooses to destroy their life, then what is proper is to see them and to reflect how perfectly God dispenses is justice, and to enjoy the suffering of others as another manifestation of the divine Life-Spirit's perfect creation.]

http://www.overthrow.com/lsn/news.asp?articleID=6141 White To License Out VNN, ShopWhite Software Those Interested Can Inquire Within 10/24/2003 11:11:05 AM Bill White Site Announcement -- LSN Editor and Publisher Bill White today announced plans to license out the software and graphics that ran VanguardNewsNetwork and ShopWhite as generic online publication and online auction scripts. White will do so for the moment under his self-proprietorship and then transfer licensing rights to the software to a Missouri corporation he is forming to support his web publishing ventures. Those interested in purchasing a license to use the software should inquire by emailing dhyphen@yahoo.com or bwhite@mail.overthrow.com. White does not expect to have the software packaged and ready for generic use until late next week, and has not yet set a price for use of the software. The software requires a web server equipped to run ASP -- either IIS or Chilisoft on Apache -- and a mySQL database software, though it can be adapated to work with other databases. White is considering a base price under $1000 for each piece of software, with a yearly renewal on the license and additional fees for custom modifications, if necessary to meet a certain environment. http://www.overthrow.com/lsn/news.asp?articleID=6142 White Files For VNN Copyrights Linder Not Expected To Contest 10/24/2003 5:54:20 PM LSN Staff St Louis, Missouri -- LSN editor and publisher Bill White today filed paperwork with the US Copyright Office asking that all copyrights held by the partnership which had run VanguardNewsNetwork be assigned to his name. "What we've said is that when Alex Linder withdrew from his partnership with me the partnership, and not Linder, continued to retain ownership of all rights to the site and its published material. As the sole remain partner, I have therefore asked that the rights be transfered to me personal ownership," White today told LSN. White noted that Linder did not contest the transfer of all of VNN's Missorui business rights to White, and that he did not expect Linder to contest transfer of the copyrights as well. "I am the sole owner of VanguardNewsNetwork. Right now, Alex Linder has hijacked the operation, and is operating and publishing in violation of my request for him to cease and desist doing so. Because there was not sufficient paperwork in the past, I am filing with various government agenices and asking them to acknowledge my rights in this matter -- business rights, copyrights and others. Once this process is complete and I have unquestioned and recognized title to all of the VNN-related rights, I am then going to take action to assert those rights and shut Alex Linder down. Once that's done, should Alex in the future attempt to publish any material derivate of or related to VNN, he would also be infringement and I would prohibit him from those actions as well." White estimated that it could take two or more weeks for all of the necessary paperwork to be filed, and that it sometimes takes as long as sixty days for some agencies to respond to requests. "Alex is very focused on whether or not he can hijack the VNN operation for today. I am focused on who will have possession of VNN three or six or twelve months from now. I think, ultimately, my focus will be more productive than his own." http://www.overthrow.com/lsn/news.asp?articleID=6143 I Am Still Willing To Make Peace With Alex Linder For The Record 10/24/2003 9:02:36 PM Bill White Commentary -- Sorry to focus everything on Alex today -- I've got several hundred backed up emails I need to check out. I wanted to say, though, that I am still willing to make peace with Alex Linder and transfer to him the rights which I have secured -- but I am going to have some say in the terms. Alex thinks that doing business is some game where you can just get mad, pick up your marbles, and walk away any time you like; that's not true. Business is business, and it is either done properly, or it gets ugly -- and when you have no clue what you are doing, you end up on the receiving end of the ugliness. If Alex will email me and state in writing that he wants to bury this and formally terminate our relationship, I will turn the copyright and the business rights and all the rights Alex doesn't even know exists (he thinks that the ICANN domain name rights are all that is relevant here -- what he doesn't understand is that I am building the paperwork necessary to demonstrate that his continuing possession of them is theft.) Alex created a partnership with me when I began paying VNN's bills. The relationship is documented in email. Alex withdrew from that partnership when he refused to accept a deal to end it, and decided to just go off half cocked and pick a fight. That partnership was not properly registered, true, but the fact that a partnership is unregistered does not negate a business relationship being treated as a partnership if the individuals involved in business participated in it in a partner-like manner. Further, no legal argument has any merit unless there is a lawyer with the money and time willing to defend it. Alex may think that talking to Wacky Richard Barrett over email constitutes reliable legal advice, but everyone can be assured that what I am doing is legal, that Alex doesn't understand exactly what I'm doing - - and neither does his legal counsel -- and that if we don't settle this and make a truce I will give him hell for it. I don't like this fight, but I am going to pursue it because it is the right thing to do -- Alex needs a lesson in not being such a bitch, Vic Wolzek needs twice that lesson, and I am in the legal right. I know there are those who think this terrible and cruel and whatnot, but if you think that, be constructive and useful and don't tell Alex "you should tell that Bill White prick to fuck off" but tell him "Why don't you make a deal with White and just bury this whole thing?"

http://www.overthrow.com/lsn/news.asp?articleID=6159 State of Missouri Awards VNN Name To White No Comment On Upcoming Enforcement Actions As Of Yet 10/27/2003 11:11:21 PM Discuss this story in the forum LSN Staff Jefferson City, Missouri -- The Secretary of State of the State of Missouri today awarded exclusive right to conduct business under the name Vanguard News Network to LSN Editor and Publisher William A White. According to the listings posted by the Secretary of State at: https://www.sos.state.mo.us/BusinessEntity/soskb/Corp.asp?1236569 And https://www.sos.state.mo.us/BusinessEntity/soskb/Corp.asp?1236574 White has been recognized as owning rights to the name, and has registered the name as a fictitious entity under which he conducts business. Under Missouri law, one may not conduct business under a name one does not own. White did not comment today on any forthcoming enforcement actions. Alex Linder, a former employee of the site, hijacked it last week. White has moved to secure rights to it in possible preparation for asking ICANN, the internet domain registrar, to transfer possession of the domain name to him. White has also attempted to negotiate a settlement of the issue with Linder.

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