That's a good question, probably on alot of people's minds here. I don't like the way Alex was treated, he deserves all of our gratitude and respect, this wasn't handled the right way by WR. I'm just waiting for Alex to get the new server and his site back online.

We're the real minority in the U.S. - racially conscious whites. If the majority of whites won't listen to us we'll wind up like the whites in south africa and that's the way it looks like now. When you look at all the white girls and some white men that race-mix it shows we are the exception. I don't know if the groups could reach them even if there wasn't all this infighting going on.

One of the best articles I read on this site was "Cowardice is whitey's survival" by Glenn ( not on here now) , you should read it if you have the chance it does explain alot about how we got where we're at now. Whites have been backing down for so long our only role now is "shut up and pay the bills" and here we are the majority.

It's just wierd that most of the groups agree on the basic issues and how desparate things are,but they can't get along . Alex and Billy are working and risking alot for the same thing, and I wish this hadn't happened this way.
The other side will be happy though.

What exactly has happened to VNN. I haven’t been keeping track. If it's turning into petty bickering and insanity that Stormfront has turned into than I'll be disappointed. One thing that I have noticed is that a lot of WN seem to be attention whores striving for absolute leadership... to be the next Hitler. Many seem to have severe mental deficiencies and obsessive compulsive disorder when it comes to forum posting and the internet. People like JJT with his thousands of posts are nothing but talk and not action. Let’s face it most white nationalists are pussies when it comes to action. Hell even I admit that taking action and protesting is a pretty scary though when the majority of the world is against you.

I honestly see no hope in a political movement in any western nation that would actively try and achieve an all white society. I mean the most "conservative" leader in the world is George W. Fucking Bush! How sad is that?

My only hope is a massive economic collapse brought about by inept spending by former and future Republican presidents like Bush I, Bush II, and the now deceased Ronald Reagan. Or better yet an oil Crash that will drastically reduce world wide population at the cost of comfortable living.

You’d think I’d be thankful for living in such an advanced and socially progressive society but I honestly hate how the modern west turned out. Hell… I’d much rather live in 18th century Europe when they were racially conscience and Colored races had yet to expand in population because of European technology.

Yet I have come to realize that the days of our race seem to be coming to an end. We're committing suicide... and I just can't understand why people have this attitude! I feel life I'm living in the Western Roman Empire around 450 AD, witnessing the collapse of civilization and my own people and there's nothing I can do about it.

Sorry... just some inane ramblings.

Oh and who is this Miller guy? From what I gather he was trying to take over "vnn"? If true then its pretty sad that WN are fighting over pixels and binary information.

And of course the saddest part is how did this happen, we were almost an all white country with white leaders and now we're at the mercy of the non-whites who are dying to take over. It seems like they let the leftists jews and liberals play the shame game, when it would have been so much easier for them to stand up and say no way. As soon as it started and they knew what they were trying to do, they should have come out swinging, it wasn't like now, they didn't have any hate crime laws then. It's hard even to imagine the america or europe of 50 or more years ago. I would say they had it better than us and in the old west too like he was saying, life might have been harder but they didn't have all the crime or all the hate being thrown at them like we do.

I am going to go outside and watch the meteor shower. I can never get enough of Nature's wonders.

Tomorrow I'll take another step in my plan to become financially successful and then later this week I'll spend time with my family. My plan is set and does not depend on the bickering and bullshit that has been going on in these internet forums. My real world activism is my personal involvement in the system and my undying committment to the 14 Words. Nothing is stopping anyone from getting an education or starting a business. It is something that anyone can do and is one of the most important forms of activism. Obviously, the timing is not right for a mass movement to be formed so we should stop trying. Resource building, self improvement, and family rearing should be our main focus. And oh yeah, get rid of that rat Miller and the rest of the defectives, that would help.

No not as long as an effort to unity is being made. It will only lead to fighting each other over ideas and social groups instead of fighting the enemy over race.

It's just wierd that most of the groups agree on the basic issues and how desparate things are,but they can't get along . Alex and Billy are working and risking alot for the same thing, and I wish this hadn't happened this way.
The other side will be happy though.

I can only speak for myself - the fundamental problem is that too many WNist organizations primarily consist of abnormal, alienated, pathological people with little to no ability to attract others who are not from the same mindset.
I have been reading Racialist literature and various racialist websites for probably close to 10 years now.
VNN was imho, far and away the most creative and made the most impression on me of any other site I've seen.
There were lots of tremendous writers who put into words that really resonated with me.....it was awesome to see others of like mind.
VNN is still a cut above most places due primarily to the original essays and wide range of reader mail contributed to the site.
This forum was a nice little add on, but became inundated with miserable little nitwits and trolls just out to ruin thought and cause havoc.
To me, as long as the essays and mail keeps coming in, I will still read VNN on a consistent basis and tell others who may enjoy the VNN site.

Let's keep perspective though: it is a net board at the end of the day.
No major change was going to take place just based on forums and websites.
I know it's a cliche, but one must only do what they can do to live the best as a racially conscious White person in a world that is unhealthy for Aryan mind, body and soul.
Maybe local networks is the way to go. Maybe a Racialist commune or colony may work.
Get a few people of like mind with the following minimum requirements:
-White Aryans
-No drug users
-Average to good physical and mental health
-Average at least in intelligence
-Willing to work and be self sufficient from the jew banking/corporate system
-Able to have kids
-No major genetic defects
-No alienated disturbed mental cases

Hey, I'm not asking for the world here. The Amish and Hutterites are practically examples of this concept, albeit from a religious standpoint.

Racialist list for colony:
Linder
Kievsky
hitler goddess
Raina
Spengler
torcher88
Todd in FL
Doppelhaken and his wife
Spengler
albion
Palatine Creator (maybe you can convince EB to come with you)
And maybe about 3-6 child bearing age women for the single men.

Ok, a fantasy I will admit, but I think soon people out there will seek out others to from some sort of network/community that provides a safe place for healthy Aryan living.
No one is satisfied living in this ever increasing White hating world.
Why not start one?

Any constructive thoughts?

I look at this forum, and at the white internet as a whole, and I am filled with such terrible depression and despair...

Why? Why are we like this? Why do we behave like this?

This Miller business should never have happened at all. The whole issue should never have arisen. The very idea of someone like Miller returning to the Movement in any capacity should have been laughed out of court immediately and without a moment's hesitation, and Miller should have been chased off any forum where he showed his face. There should have been no argument and no debate at all about this.

What in God's name has happened to our moral compass? How can we have sunk so low?

Keith

It'd be great, but where the hell am I on that list? hehe, just kidding. Actually, the Amish should be our damned model. When something needs to be repaired, they get off their asses and do it. Need a barn built? No problem, you know that half the community will roll up their sleeves and help. I admire the Amish quite a bit for this. Plus, their retention rate is 90%!! Even after they experience life on the outside. It just proves that that kinda life is healthier for your mind, body, and spirit, and generally makes for happier people. Sounds great to me.

It's just wierd that most of the groups agree on the basic issues and how desparate things are,but they can't get along . Alex and Billy are working and risking alot for the same thing, and I wish this hadn't happened this way.
The other side will be happy though.

I can only speak for myself - the fundamental problem is that too many WNist organizations primarily consist of abnormal, alienated, pathological people with little to no ability to attract others who are not from the same mindset.
I have been reading Racialist literature and various racialist websites for probably close to 10 years now.
VNN was imho, far and away the most creative and made the most impression on me of any other site I've seen.
There were lots of tremendous writers who put into words that really resonated with me.....it was awesome to see others of like mind.
VNN is still a cut above most places due primarily to the original essays and wide range of reader mail contributed to the site.
This forum was a nice little add on, but became inundated with miserable little nitwits and trolls just out to ruin thought and cause havoc.
To me, as long as the essays and mail keeps coming in, I will still read VNN on a consistent basis and tell others who may enjoy the VNN site.

Let's keep perspective though: it is a net board at the end of the day.
No major change was going to take place just based on forums and websites.
I know it's a cliche, but one must only do what they can do to live the best as a racially conscious White person in a world that is unhealthy for Aryan mind, body and soul.
Maybe local networks is the way to go. Maybe a Racialist commune or colony may work.
Get a few people of like mind with the following minimum requirements:
-White Aryans
-No drug users
-Average to good physical and mental health
-Average at least in intelligence
-Willing to work and be self sufficient from the jew banking/corporate system
-Able to have kids
-No major genetic defects
-No alienated disturbed mental cases

Hey, I'm not asking for the world here. The Amish and Hutterites are practically examples of this concept, albeit from a religious standpoint.

Racialist list for colony:
Linder
Kievsky
hitler goddess
Raina
Spengler
torcher88
Todd in FL
Doppelhaken and his wife
Spengler
albion
Palatine Creator (maybe you can convince EB to come with you)
And maybe about 3-6 child bearing age women for the single men.

Ok, a fantasy I will admit, but I think soon people out there will seek out others to from some sort of network/community that provides a safe place for healthy Aryan living.
No one is satisfied living in this ever increasing White hating world.
Why not start one?

Any constructive thoughts?

No one is satisfied living in this ever increasing White hating world.
Why not start one?

Not that I disagree with it but that's right out of the Norcalnative1971 handbook.

Judging from what we see on this forum, indeed what we have seen on this forum for the past year--adding what we have seen on Stormfront and with the ongoing National Alliance soap opera--does anyone believe that it is possible for any kind of serious, adult racial resistance movement ever to come out of this unspeakable cluster-fuck?

No, I mean REALLY.....

I'll be blunt and honest. There won't be any kind of serious adult racial resistance movement until we have a real army behind us. I always hope to be proved wrong though.

I always keep in mind this poem by Kipling...

The Beginnings

It was not part of their blood,
It came to them very late
With long arrears to make good,
When the English began to hate.

They were not easily moved,
They were icy-willing to wait
Till every count should be proved,
Ere the English began to hate.

Their voices were even and low,
Their eyes were level and straight.
There was neither sign nor show,
When the English began to hate.

It was not preached to the crowd,
It was not taught by the State.
No man spoke it aloud,
When the English began to hate.

It was not suddenly bred,
It will not swiftly abate,
Through the chill years ahead,
When Time shall count from the date
That the English began to hate.

Not that I disagree with it but that's right out of the Norcalnative1971 handbook.

Ok, even if that is true, that means what exactly?

Ok, even if that is true, that means what exactly?

Focus on this part. I think it's Norcal verbatim.
"No major change was going to take place just based on forums and websites.
I know it's a cliche, but one must only do what they can do to live the best as a racially conscious White person in a world that is unhealthy for Aryan mind, body and soul.
Maybe local networks is the way to go. Maybe a Racialist commune or colony may work.

... people out there will seek out others to from some sort of network/community that provides a safe place for healthy Aryan living."

And of course the saddest part is how did this happen, we were almost an all white country with white leaders and now we're at the mercy of the non-whites who are dying to take over. It seems like they let the leftists jews and liberals play the shame game, when it would have been so much easier for them to stand up and say no way. As soon as it started and they knew what they were trying to do, they should have come out swinging, it wasn't like now, they didn't have any hate crime laws then. It's hard even to imagine the america or europe of 50 or more years ago. I would say they had it better than us and in the old west too like he was saying, life might have been harder but they didn't have all the crime or all the hate being thrown at them like we do.

I very much like your two posts in this thread. You directly, plainly address a number of historical truths. I hope you post a lot in future.