Chicago 2012 A.D.

ZOG USA PERMITTED the Soviet hordes to take the capitol of Germany by refusing to let our armies advance. American Gen. George Patton (who conveniently had an 'accidental' death) could have easily swept over eastern Germany, Poland, and into Russia itself, and completed the job Hitler should have been allowed to finish. If we really had the interests of the Russian people at heart, and were a foe of communism, we would have done precisely that.

Nazi Propaganda: 1933-1945
http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/index.htm

Get ready for a long one, El Duce -- I can see it coming....

The English are a successful German tribe, yes. They did a decent job in America, at least the founder. America fought Britian for a hundred years.

Of all the Germanic peoples, the Anglo-Saxons are the most accomplished. And America did not fight Britain for a hundred years. The Monroe Doctrine was a British idea. The Royal Navy protected the Western Hemisphere for over a century.

Then came the disasters of the 20th century.

Nazism and Marxism. Those are two German ideas.

And look where we are now, having sided with the jew and the Anglophiles.

Darwin, Spencer, Davenport, Galton, and Pearson laid the foundation for hereditarianism in the first place. Then Hitler and the Nazis fucked it up and made a mockery out of racialism. You seem to have forgotten that the United States was the vanguard of the eugenics movement in the early twentieth century and was more responsible than any other nation for spreading the doctrine to Northern Europe.

We abandoned our better traditions

I would like to revive them. But fascism was never an American tradition.

and all of a sudden we're buildling empires we can't sustain

We have been building that empire for several centuries now. Imperialism and Americanism are the same thing.

we're killing other people for no reason

The U.S. Government does not kill people simply for the hell of it.

building up immense hatreds of ourselves that might not come back to haunt us

We are hated because we are the wealthiest and most powerful nation in the world and other nations are not.

all under cover of round the clock lies fed to average citizens who are now decades into brainwashing so severe theat they leap to send their sons off to die and slap chinese made thupport-the-troops stickers on their rusted out cars.

Small potatoes to the sort of war the Nazis sold to the German people.

And they look at you like you're evil incarnate if you hand them a paper quoting the jews about their agenda in Iraq.

The role the Jewish neoconservatives played in the Iraq War is no secret. It has been discussed over and over again in the mainstream press.

Consumerist conformism characterizes America in 2004.

I agree. But that is because we have a consumer economy. So does Japan. So does Germany.

Ok. Churchill sold out to the jews, destroyed an Empire, and wrote a few good but dishonest books.

1.) Churchill never sold out to the Jews.
2.) Churchill did not destroy the British Empire.
3.) Churchill was a brilliant writer. Hitler was not.

Hitler came from nowhere, described the jews brilliantly, fought them brilliantly, and came within an inch of destroying their racial threat to Aryans forever.

1.) Hitler started the most destructive fratricidal war in the history of the world.
2.) He aligned himself with the Soviets and attacked the West.
3.) He cut a deal with the Jews (e.g., the transfer agreement).
4.) He lost the war all by himself.
5.) He didn't give a damn about Aryans.
6.) All he cared about was Germany.

I think Hitler's words contrast favorably with Orwell's, and he went beyond describing the problem specifically where Orwell always stayed safely general, to doing something about it.

I like Orwell too. He was a good British writer.

And that's why Orwell's books, today, are available everywhere, and greatly praised. Whereas you can't find a copy of Hitler's words without a 50-page "introduction" telling you how you must read it.

Mein Kampf is widely available. Oh yeah. The reason that you can find that introduction written by Foxman is because the ADL makes sure that Mein Kampf is easy to find. That is because suckers go get the book and become Nazis. That suits the ADL because that is what they call them too.

The better men lost, and so the wrong men are celebrated. Happened here in the States too.

There was one side that declared war upon us and tried to kill us. The other side, our side, opposed these people. I am glad that our side won.

Get ready for a long one, El Duce -- I can see it coming....

LOL. FTB rants are endless. Most lemmings, including himself just doesn’t realize the profound impact of the 20th century, particularly WW2 outcome where we are now bearing the fruits.

LOL. FTB rants are endless. Most lemmings, including himself just doesn’t realize the profound impact of the 20th century, particularly WW2 outcome where we are now bearing the fruits.

Yeah, but according to our resident WWII expert here, National Socialism is in itself inherent anathema to the American way of life -- jew control of the media has nothing to do whatsoever with how AH & Co. is perceived by the great American lemming. Or did'nt you know that?!

Good thing we're fortunate enough to have ol' Fake the Bitch around to set us right....yeah man....

Yeah, but according to our resident WWII expert here, National Socialism is in itself inherent anathema to the American way of life -- jew control of the media has nothing to do whatsoever with how AH & Co. is perceived by the great American lemming. Or, did'nt you know that?!

Good thing we're fortunate enough to have ol' Fake the Bitch around to set us right....yeah man....

Third Reich copied some of the National Socialist idea’s from America. Eugenics was first practice in U.S in the early 20th century. National Socialism is as old as thinking man itself. Natural Socialist” is in conjunction with nature laws. For in the end, she is NAZI.

The Germans didn't destroy any nations.

They didn't destroy Denmark, Belgium, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Poland, Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia, France, and Greece? They also attempted to destroy Britain and Russia. Their Japanese allies went to war with the United States and Australia.

Lying about atrocities committed by Germans in WWI, starving the civiliian population in both wars, during and after the war.

1.) Germany's atrocities in WW1 are well-documented.
2.) Bacque's crap has been discredited.

Firebombings.

The bombing of Guernica was an aerial attack on April 26, 1937, during the Spanish Civil War by the German squadron known as the Condor Legion against the Basque city of Guernica. It was the first aerial bombardment in history in which a civilian population was attacked with the apparent intent of producing total destruction.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Guernica

The turning over millions if not over ten million people to Stalin to crush - you know the quote from Churchill, don't worry about those five million Germans, Stalin will kill them.

Why are you attempting to shift the blame? It was Hitler who started his war with Stalin in the first place. And its Hitler's fault that he lost that war too. He didn't wage that war to fight Communism either. He waged it to destroy the Slavs and steal their land. Those tens of millions of people were probably better off under Stalin than they would have been under Hitler.

The turning over millions if not over ten million people to Stalin to crush - you know the quote from Churchill, don't worry about those five million Germans, Stalin will kill them.

I suppose you are referring to the German minorities in countries like Poland and Czechoslovakia here. Those people were kicked out of their nations because they played an instrumental role in destroying them in the first place. Those people would in all likelihood still be there today if Hitler had not come to power and started the war.

I don't fully blame Britain, as Irving has documented he was in bondage to the jews, and after all had was jewish through his mother.

Churchill was never "in bondage to the Jews." Michael Cohen has dealt with the issue at length in his book Churchill and the Jews (2003). I don't find Irving's argument in anyway convincing.

But it's just exactly like claiming that because the Arabs killed 3,000 in the WTC, that makes up for the hundreds of thousands killed by judeo-American sanctions against Iraq.

The United Nations imposed sanctions upon Iraq. It is not incumbent upon Britain or the United States to trade with any nation. The Nazis murdered hundreds of thousands of Russian POWs in the East.

You remember the Albright quote about 500,000 Iraqi babies

See above.

Worth it," she said. That has always been the attitudeof the jews, and America has adopted it as jews have assumed dominance here.

We are not responsible for the misery that Saddam Hussein has inflicted upon his own people. Saddam Hussein could have stepped down at any time. He choose not to do so.

Face it, Fade. You don't count things done by Britain as atrocities.

Refusing to trade with someone is not an atrocity. It is an exercise of freedom.

That's a very British characteristic. Just like Barabra Bush, asked about troops coming back in body bags.

Its interesting that you should show such a concern for American troops here. How many American troops were killed by the Nazis?

Why should she waste her "beautiful mind" on such things. You take jewish claims of atrocities at face value -- the words of the very people who are destroying our physical plant and our world reputation today -- the very people Hitler darn near drove out of the Aryan world completely.

You continue to assert that all these claims are "jewish claims." But that is nothing but a smear. There are plenty of gentile historians who have made the same claims. There are also plenty of German historians have made the exact same arguments. For instance, German historians have debunked James Bacque's claims.

Well I feel you build many strawmen too. What precisely are you referring to? They did shoot a lot of partisans and jews in the East.

The murdered all sorts of people in the East.

That's understandable. I really think you fail to see just how desperate the situation was in Germany. Jews staged putsches

I don't believe we should murder people because they happen to be of a given ethnicity. That is not understandable.

They controlled major cities. They were going to do the same thing they did in Russia -- root out German nationlists and destroy them forever as a threat. The nazis stopped them.

Give me the names of the Jews who controlled the major cities and who were going to destroy the Germans forever.

Your position makes no sense looking from then or now.

My position is supported by a mountain of scholarship that has been done on the issue.

Today, there's no freedom in Europe. There's jewish tyranny.

You are throwing around words. I would prefer to see the evidence. Please demonstrate for me that France is controlled by the Jews. Prove to me that the Jews are in control of Denmark and Norway.

I'd rather live under a german nationalist 'tyranny.' One would be a good deal freer.

I would much rather live under our current government than Nazism. I have never been visited by any Gestapo in the United States.

Most historians belong to a system predicated on the big lie of egalitarianism.

You are throwing around words once again. If you have evidence that such historians are lying, then let us see it.

Nazism is their ultimate evil, and so they seek to identify it with racism, egalitarianism's evil opposite.

I am not an egalitarian. But even I can see why Nazism is evil. A quick glance through Hitler's Table Talk led me that conclusion.

People turned against racialism by degree, completely consistent with growing jewish influence.

This hypothesis makes no sense whatsoever. While Jewish influence in the mass media grew stronger in the twenties and the thirties, so did antisemitism in the United States.

They resisted at every step of the way, but always the jews overcame it.

No. The U.S. Government began to implement civil rights reforms in the United States because racialism was a burden for the U.S. in the Cold War. There was also the fact that Americans were disgusted with Nazism.

Today, nobody knows anything about nazis. They just know what they see on tv

This is false. I can go to the library and read Speer's memoirs. I can read the diaries of various German generals. I can read Mein Kampf and Hitler's Table Talk. I can spends weeks immersing myself in primary sources and so can any historian or any citizen who is interested in the matter.

And still it is not really correct to say that nazis are discredited.

Feel free to ask the typical American citizen if Nazism has been discredited.

Most people you bring up the subject, if you talk to them in private, are interested in what the nazis did, have questions about it. Of course they are well conditioned to know that in public there's only one "right" attitude about them, that they were the ultimate evil.

It has been my experience that most people believe the Nazis are evil because they think their actions are immoral.

and, right on cue .....blah blah blah....

The bombing of Guernica was an aerial attack on April 26, 1937, during the Spanish Civil War by the German squadron known as the Condor Legion against the Basque city of Guernica. It was the first aerial bombardment in history in which a civilian population was attacked with the apparent intent of producing total destruction.

The Soviets were trying to communize Spain [1]. The heroic Nazis helped to stop them. End of story.

[1] http://wsi.matriots.com/spain.html

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When we look back at WW2, it’s pretty obvious the allies destroyed Third Reich, and Europe as a super power . Allies killed by a ratio 10 to 1. Cities were devastated which they are still recovering from it.

Europe is now drifting away from American and British control, and that will become more evident as time moves on. The future of Europe rests with France, Germany, and Russia."

Stalin wasn't preparing to invade Nazi Germany at all. He was living in fear of the Nazis, especially after the fall of France. He was also worried about another "imperialist" invasion by the West. His posture was a defensive one (e.g., "Socialism in One Country") and had been for years.

Bad News Fade, the fact that Stalin was planning to attack the west is now proven by documented evidence, eyewitnesses, and material from the Soviet archives. A large part of it can be found in Stalin's War of Extermination by Joachim Hoffman. Also, Hitler only accepted the non-aggression pact with the Soviet Union at the time because they were the only nation that offered peace. Hitler was rapidly trying to seek an alliance with any other nation, particularly after the British backed Polish government tore up their non-aggression pact with Germany. The Soviet Union was the only nation that seemed committed to peace at that time.

I believe Fade is not answering me because I have insulted his elusive, wonderful new ideology he created in his basement with glue, glitter, and dry macaroni. He also didn't like it when I exposed his MASSIVE ignorance about the ROA and Slavic volunteers in general. I guess that information wasn't in Table Talk.

Of all the Germanic peoples, the Anglo-Saxons are the most accomplished. And America did not fight Britain for a hundred years. The Monroe Doctrine was a British idea. The Royal Navy protected the Western Hemisphere for over a century.

Nice. I'd love to see you explaining this to a group of Irish or Polish Americans some time. Looks like your ideology will be REAL popular in America.

Why are there so many niggers in European cities when most of the population doesn't want them there? Obviously, these countries are not democracies, for if they were, they'd have been allowed to vote on what happens to their country.The final securing of jew rule over the American population came about under the jew Roosevelt regime. That's why the Great Depression was engineered. Germany, rapidly emerging as a powerful racial, and economic state, was a threat to the Anglo-kike who dreamed of world rule and exploitation through the twin sisters Capitalism and Communism. WWII was concocted to destroy Germany. As a result, the Zionist regime then occupied Germany with military troops and they are still there with Germany's puppet government being the lap dog of Judeo-America. Through threats, bribes and subterfuge -- particularly though the jew-invented UN, control of other governments continued.

Don't forget that Nature is Nazi, and She won't be fooled. Time is on our side. The parasites seem to know this, for their behavior is more frenzied and desperate.

Nice. I'd love to see you explaining this to a group of Irish or Polish Americans some time. Looks like your ideology will be REAL popular in America.

Fade is living in America circa 1820s, when Anglo-Saxons were the only Americans, the white man ruled the land, and democracy was "in".