Good point about the introvert angle.

I have a question for those who support the public display of Nazi garb:

If dressing like a Nazi helps the pro-White cause, then WHY do our enemies call attention to those who dress that way?

Here's a hint: Could it be that our enemies like it when they see you dressed up as Nazis or flying swastika flags? Think about it!! You could scarcely do more damage to us if you sat in a "Dunk-the-Nazi" booth at the local carnival.

You think they wouldn't call attention to you if you marched on DC in a business suit chanting an anti-Israel message ? Ohh no they'd paint you as Ameruican as apple pie. That business suit would make all the difference in the world. I'll bet they'd even let you picket the holocaust museum and start building gas chambers as long as you had on that business suit. YES It is the greatest strategy, why didnt I see it ? Yes lets all done our three piece Saks Fifth Avenues and start marching Jews to the gulags. They'll all be in chains before folks figure out what we're up to because we're wearing suits...Well I'll bet the Jews themselves would even be cheering us on...YES LETS GO ! ! !

I have a question for those who support the public display of Nazi garb:

If dressing like a Nazi helps the pro-White cause, then WHY do our enemies call attention to those who dress that way?

Here's a hint: Could it be that our enemies like it when they see you dressed up as Nazis or flying swastika flags? Think about it!! You could scarcely do more damage to us if you sat in a "Dunk-the-Nazi" booth at the local carnival.

You think they wouldn't call attention to you if you marched on DC in a business suit chanting an anti-Israel message ? Ohh no they'd paint you as Ameruican as apple pie. That business suit would make all the difference in the world.

Yes, it would make all the difference. You wouldn't have wear a suit -- there's such a thing as being overdressed, you know -- but looking like a normal person makes people take you more seriously.

Take the example of David Duke's election to the Louisiana House of Representatives. Did you think he would have been successful in his bid for election if he'd done his campaigning in a Klan outfit? Please.

I have expressed my hatred of Israel to many people and was taken seriously each time. It's usually better to name Israel and its American supporters (including Zionist Christians) than to name the Jew outright. Once people are thoroughly convinced of the Israeli lobby's control of the US government and are on board the anti-Israel ship, it becomes MUCH easier to bring them fully into the pro-White movement. But regardless of what you say to potential converts, the most important thing to do is to back up your arguments with facts and logic, not a silly costume.

I'll bet they'd even let you picket the holocaust museum and start building gas chambers as long as you had on that business suit. YES It is the greatest strategy, why didnt I see it ? Yes lets all done our three piece Saks Fifth Avenues and start marching Jews to the gulags. They'll all be in chains before folks figure out what we're up to because we're wearing suits...Well I'll bet the Jews themselves would even be cheering us on...YES LETS GO ! ! !

Who said anything about building gas chambers or gulags? Public discussion of those things is no different from displaying a swastika. It all projects the same distasteful image. Why do you think people are repelled by Nazi symbols, anyway? It's because -- surprise! -- they associate them with gas chambers and gulags.

In fact, I'm of the opinion that all public, explicitly pro-White rallies are counterproductive at this stage of the game. We are too few in number. Having a "rally" with only 30 people looks ridiculous. If you attend such a rally -- no matter how you're dressed -- people will take you as seriously as, say, a man wearing a sandwich board with the message "REPENT! THE END IS NEAR!" and ranting on the street corner. If you can't get at least 1000 people together for a public rally, then the rally looks retarded. We need to greatly increase our numbers through the use of the Internet and person-to-person conversion before rallies will be worthwhile. The pro-White movement needs to work hard, but subtly and undercover.

Yes, it would make all the difference. You wouldn't have wear a suit -- there's such a thing as being overdressed, you know -- but looking like a normal person makes people take you more seriously.

Take the example of David Duke's election to the Louisiana House of Representatives. Did you think he would have been successful in his bid for election if he'd done his campaigning in a Klan outfit? Please.

I have expressed my hatred of Israel to many people and was taken seriously each time. It's usually better to name Israel and its American supporters (including Zionist Christians) than to name the Jew outright. Once people are thoroughly convinced of the Israeli lobby's control of the US government and are on board the anti-Israel ship

First of all, Israel itself is a minor issue..you know it, I know it, we all know it...Israel is merely a symbolic entity that White Nationalists can actively oppose in regular politics.....if Israel was destroyed tomorrow, Jews would still control Wall Street and the mass media of both America and Britain so unless you can find people who ARE comfortable with naming the JEW, you are only fighting the old Communist Anti-Zionism junk of the 1980's..

Also, removing Israel from U.S. Foreign policy, sure, but that's a Pat Buchanan agenda and it's even allowed slightly into the mainstream.....that's certainly not a Pro-White movement because Anti-Israel rhetoric is spouted by Arabs of every shade and most of us know, Arabs love Blacks......does anyone here really believe that the destruction of Israel would stop non-white immigration into the U.S.???? You can't be serious....

Naming the Jew involves seeing Jews as a tribal group which seeks out to DESTROY Whites....if your friends can't handle that or if you are too scared to present it to them that way, then they will NEVER be brought into White Nationalism.

I'd like to say that I agree with what's being said but Momus will just call me a Jew...again.

Yeah, I know the feeling. If you don't hate the jews you are a jew. Taking responsibility for your actions doesn't matter. Getting drunk and bitching to the guy in the bar sitting next to you isn't going to change anything. Oh yeah, thats right, a jew probably owns the bar. Come on people, turn off the TV, give up alcohol, and lets try to do something constructive for our people, rather than just bitching about the jews, whoever and wherever they are. If you want to bitch, bitch about immigration, talk about how an illegal mestizo raped and strangled a nun. Yes, a nun. That will piss off people more than the "hidden hand of jewry"

By the way Gallytuck, keep up the good work. I've read a lot of your posts, mostly in the opp forum. You like to play "devil's advocate". Esp. about the whole JFK thing. You and MacDonald debated some excellent points. He seems like a good guy, and I try to read his posts. I do think he is 100% right with this one. As with some of the people here, if you are not a card carrying nazi, you are a talmud carrying jew. There are actually some people here who bring up outstanding points. Some who don't. Like I said earlier most "awakened" people are just frustrated.

Yeah, I know the feeling. If you don't hate the jews you are a jew. Taking responsibility for your actions doesn't matter. Getting drunk and bitching to the guy in the bar sitting next to you isn't going to change anything. Oh yeah, thats right, a jew probably owns the bar. Come on people, turn off the TV, give up alcohol, and lets try to do something constructive for our people, rather than just bitching about the jews, whoever and wherever they are. If you want to bitch, bitch about immigration, talk about how an illegal mestizo raped and strangled a nun. Yes, a nun. That will piss off people more than the "hidden hand of jewry"

By the way Gallytuck, keep up the good work. I've read a lot of your posts, mostly in the opp forum. You like to play "devil's advocate". Esp. about the whole JFK thing. You and MacDonald debated some excellent points. He seems like a good guy, and I try to read his posts. I do think he is 100% right with this one. As with some of the people here, if you are not a card carrying nazi, you are a talmud carrying jew. There are actually some people here who bring up outstanding points. Some who don't. Like I said earlier most "awakened" people are just frustrated.

Get a clue, Jewish organizations promote massive immigration of non-whites into the U.S.....you are directing people in the wrong direction...getting people mad about Blacks and Mexicans doesn't work as a cohesive strategy, you've got to attack the head of the snake and that head is JEWISH. Stop avoiding the Jewish issue, it makes you look weak..

How do you plan to do that ? How are you going to subtly build an army ? How are you going to subtly get peoples attention ? The way the Jew did when he subtly bombed the World Trade Towers ? The way he subtly invaded Iraq using US soldiers and military strength to do his bidding ? The way he subtly bombed the King David Hotel, the way he subtly attempted to sink the USS Liberty ? How subtle can we afford to be at this point do you think ? Are we going to softsoap the message and water it down so weak in an effort to build an army of pantywaists ?

Yes, it would make all the difference. You wouldn't have wear a suit -- there's such a thing as being overdressed, you know -- but looking like a normal person makes people take you more seriously.

Take the example of David Duke's election to the Louisiana House of Representatives. Did you think he would have been successful in his bid for election if he'd done his campaigning in a Klan outfit? Please.

I have expressed my hatred of Israel to many people and was taken seriously each time. It's usually better to name Israel and its American supporters (including Zionist Christians) than to name the Jew outright. Once people are thoroughly convinced of the Israeli lobby's control of the US government and are on board the anti-Israel ship, it becomes MUCH easier to bring them fully into the pro-White movement. But regardless of what you say to potential converts, the most important thing to do is to back up your arguments with facts and logic, not a silly costume.

Who said anything about building gas chambers or gulags? Public discussion of those things is no different from displaying a swastika. It all projects the same distasteful image. Why do you think people are repelled by Nazi symbols, anyway? It's because -- surprise! -- they associate them with gas chambers and gulags.

In fact, I'm of the opinion that all public, explicitly pro-White rallies are counterproductive at this stage of the game. We are too few in number. Having a "rally" with only 30 people looks ridiculous. If you attend such a rally -- no matter how you're dressed -- people will take you as seriously as, say, a man wearing a sandwich board with the message "REPENT! THE END IS NEAR!" and ranting on the street corner. If you can't get at least 1000 people together for a public rally, then the rally looks retarded. We need to greatly increase our numbers through the use of the Internet and person-to-person conversion before rallies will be worthwhile. The pro-White movement needs to work hard, but subtly and undercover.

How do you plan to do that ? How are you going to subtly build an army ? How are you going to subtly get peoples attention ? The way the Jew did when he subtly bombed the World Trade Towers ? The way he subtly invaded Iraq using US soldiers and military strength to do his bidding ? The way he subtly bombed the King David Hotel, the way he subtly attempted to sink the USS Liberty ? How subtle can we afford to be at this point do you think ? Are we going to softsoap the message and water it down so weak in an effort to build an army of pantywaists ?

This forum is unfortunately starting to attract a kind of "America First" type individual who is more concerned with U.S. Foreign policy than racial issues. We already have Paleoconservatives in the media...to become a new "respectable" Paleocon is nothing special....

Get a clue, Jewish organizations promote massive immigration of non-whites into the U.S.....you are directing people in the wrong direction...getting people mad about Blacks and Mexicans doesn't work as a cohesive strategy, you've got to attack the head of the snake and that head is JEWISH. Stop avoiding the Jewish issue, it makes you look weak..

I am weak. We are all weak. I mean look at us. We are bitching back in forth through a f****** computer. Could you name these jewish groups? Are they aipac? One of my points was this: Who signed the immigration act of 1965? Was it a hooked nosed jew? No, it was a white president. It doesn't really matter though, most of the people in real life don't care. Not even if their daughter gets raped by a gang of mestizos. Our people don't care about their race. I don't want to bring everyone down, but I do talk to people in real life, and most don't care. We are a "nation of immigrants" they say. What do you want me to do about it? they say. What are you some kind of nazi/racist?

None of you like what I say some I'm going to remove myself to either the opp. forum or off the board completely. I just hope the rest of you have more success than me in talking with real people in the real world, not just complete strangers on a computer. I mean you people do talk with real "lemmings" in the real world right?

If you are refering to me you are wrong. I am as far from America first as you can get. This so called America is our worst enemy. I only refer to US foreign policy and the state of Israel as a means to make a point. As a matter of fact my idea on US foreign policy is to have none. Let the Jews in Palestine fin for themselves as well as the niggers in Haiti and Africa. The only foreign policy I think the US should have ever developed is when it came to the security of other Aryan Nations. But alas that is a pipe dream because it is no longer even concerned with the security of this nation.

This forum is unfortunately starting to attract a kind of "America First" type individual who is more concerned with U.S. Foreign policy than racial issues. We already have Paleoconservatives in the media...to become a new "respectable" Paleocon is nothing special....

I am weak. We are all weak. I mean look at us. We are bitching back in forth through a f****** computer. Could you name these jewish groups? Are they aipac? One of my points was this: Who signed the immigration act of 1965? Was it a hooked nosed jew? No, it was a white president. It doesn't really matter though, most of the people in real life don't care. Not even if their daughter gets raped by a gang of mestizos. Our people don't care about their race. I don't want to bring everyone down, but I do talk to people in real life, and most don't care. We are a "nation of immigrants" they say. What do you want me to do about it? they say. What are you some kind of nazi/racist?

None of you like what I say some I'm going to remove myself to either the opp. forum or off the board completely. I just hope the rest of you have more success than me in talking with real people in the real world, not just complete strangers on a computer. I mean you people do talk with real "lemmings" in the real world right?

If you want to find out about the Jewish role in immigration read MacDonald's book "The Culture of Critique"...he explains how Jews have always supported a very open immigration policy as far back as 1910 and have continued to do so in the present.....in total, the Jews have approximately 300 different organizations in America which cover every possible aspect of the Jewish tribal culture and agenda...

All of us talk with the lemmings....they either have to be READY to receive the message or they aren't...things will have to get much worse...perhaps until those people you work with are personally mugged or raped by a non-white will they be ready to receive the truth....

If you are refering to me you are wrong. I am as far from America first as you can get. This so called America is our worst enemy. I only refer to US foreign policy and the state of Israel as a means to make a point. As a matter of fact my idea on US foreign policy is to have none. Let the Jews in Palestine fin for themselves as well as the niggers in Haiti and Africa. The only foreign policy I think the US should have ever developed is when it came to the security of other Aryan Nations. But alas that is a pipe dream because it is no longer even concerned with the security of this nation.

No, I wasn't speaking about you...I was talking about the newcomers who focus entirely on Foreign Policy.....it seems like they wrongly assume that Anti-Israel means White Nationalist which is ridiculous because Louis Farrakhan hates Israel. There are tons of non-Whites who hate Israel...

I didn't really think you were speaking to me, however I did want to make my poisition clear.

No, I wasn't speaking about you...I was talking about the newcomers who focus entirely on Foreign Policy.....it seems like they wrongly assume that Anti-Israel means White Nationalist which is ridiculous because Louis Farrakhan hates Israel. There are tons of non-Whites who hate Israel...

the swazi is not only a sacred symbol, but in case you havent noticed, it's widely used in advertising logos. I'm not talking pre-WW2-- I'm talking here and now. Just look around you for four pointed arms radiating from a center nucleus in a symmetrical fashion. that's your swastika, gammadion, hakenkreuz, and it's in irremovable part of the human psyche. how else could it be so universal in traditional religious art and decoration, from the ancient greeks and germans to aryans to japs and even native americans?

however, I believe that as a sacred symbol of our race and our loyalty, it should be kept in private spaces and treated in a reverential manner.

that being said, I generally agree that probably 90% of the time it's displayed, third reich regalia is counterproductive. I'm a fan of the "Dress for Success" approach.

anybody heard of "the saint brigid's cross?"