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(Notice I don't call it a "conspiracy theory.") This is a comment posted on Hal's site re a mestizo sergeant who wrote an article saying that Cheney ordered NORAD to stand down during 9-11. (Do only mestizo military men have any guts these days?) Anyway, here's the comment. This sounds true to me -- and explains much (including the SS Liberty attack).
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On 9/11 Cheney, Bush, and select U.S. military, as well as other key political figures were roped into a Israeli blackmail scheme that rested on a false flag. The plot was carried out by Israeli-loyal Jews and was on the orders of the Israeli government.
Yes, there was a planned false flag hijacking in the Bush-Cheney circle, endorsed by the Neo-con Jews, that was to create some limited destruction to the Trade Center and to the Pentagon and was meant to take place in the the wee hours of 9/11, before the buildings were staffed. Bush and Co. authorized drills that would allow the plot to occur unobstructed. There was to be limited casualties and absolutely nothing approaching the controlled demolition collapse of the Twin Towers.
However, that morning the message was sent to Bush and Co. that the planned operation had to be aborted, and then, a few hours later, BOOM! Another far more destructive and deadly operation occured while those who had been entrapped and who had their fingerprints all over the originally planned minimal operation, sat dumbfounded.
This is a classic method of coup d' etat resulting from the betrayal of a perceived ally. By altering the magnitude of a planned crime, the betrayer is able to entrap co-conspirators in a compromised position and by selective evidence gathering is able to shore it up.
Yes, the Jews, the neo-cons, and their masters, the Isaelis now have the goods on Bush and Co. regarding 9/11, and so if his administration doesn't follow orders from Israel, his top people will be exposed as the architects and beneficiaries of 9/11.
The same double-cross was done to LBJ regarding the Israeli attack on the U.S.S. Liberty. The Jews convinced him to send the ship to a location where a single torpedo would lightly damage it and that operation would then provide a pretext for entering the War on the side of Israel against Egypt. Corrupt politician, LBJ liked the idea, but in reality, Israel planned all along to sink the Liberty and kill all those aboard.
LBJ was told to call off the fighters and to allow total destruction of the Liberty and, since his fingerprints were made sure to be on the original false flag, he had NO CHOICE but to follow Israeli orders, or face High Treason Charges and probable execution. Only the chance presence of a Russian ship stopped the
Liberty from being sunk.
Bush, Cheney and many others involved in the planned smaller version of 9/11 are 100% compromised and now are functionally agents of Israel. Under such an emergency, America has no sovereignty and will soon be roped into launching a nuclear attack on Iran and perhaps into several more wars for Israel.
America's, and therefore Bush's, only solution to this Jewish blackmail is for Israel to be attacked and fully destroyed with nuclear weapons at the same time Jewish operatives are arrested or assassinated worldwide.
Bush can only avoid the the threat of this blackmail by killing the blackmailer, since Jews will never honor anything, least of all a promise to release one from an extortion bond.
Yes, Jewish power must be totally wiped out and must never be allowed to regroup. The world's survival depends on it.
Never conspire with Jews, they will backstab you and never let up. It is in their blood, an idea which makes feel superior to all, but in reality marks them as degenerate and makes their lives' a liability.
http://www.haloscan.com/comments/halturner/CheneyOrderedStandDown/
Posted : 25/09/2006 9:35 am
This makes more sense than anything I've yet heard. Of course, since the comments from this sergeant comes first from Alex Jones, watch out for "incoming." We'll have to put up with the, "Hey, Alex Jones is just a...blab, blab, blab." More and more we WNs are making ourselves less than marginalized while the anti-war folks are doing the heavy lifting.
Back to the article. It makes perfect sense. A friend of mine used to be the mayor of a town here in Colorado, and a player in the national republican party. He told me that elected officials are usually dumber than bricks, and overflowing with testosterone. That, plus their general lack of discipline, make them very open to blackmail.
I'm listening to the sergeant right now on the Alex Jones show. He is not disinfo. He is legitimate.
"Incoming"
Enkidu
Hunter S. Thompson, "Big dark, coming soon"
Posted : 25/09/2006 9:49 am
I think Alex Jones is legit to a certain point. But he is on record as saying that any link between Israel and this horrible act of mass murder called 9-11 is crazy, impossible, etc. And he tends to make a lot of bizarre statements. World War 3 is starting next week. The Globalists are going to unleash a wave of bio-terror that'll make 9-11 look like a picnic. I actually like Alex Jones and think his heart is in the right place. But years of chasing Fed boogeymen takes its toll on a man's mind. Gaze long into the abyss...
When in fact a cursory review of the facts and certain statements by Israeli officials point the finger of blame directly at the Shitty Little. Hateistan. Yidsreal. Isntreal.
Damage Inc.
Dancing Israelis
"It's very good"
War on Isreal's enemies
Larry Silverstein recently buying and insuring
The destruction of Lebanon
Israeli spy rings disappearing down the memory hole
Jonathan Pollard
"We the Jewish people control America, and the Americans know it."
Torture made legal in the "fight against terror"
"It's just a gd piece of paper"
The Patriot Act
Video of a weasel openly stating he ordered his thugs to "pull it"
Merely a taste of what's been going on. And Alex and the 9-11 truth movement won't touch the Israeli connection with a ten foot pole. Either they are bought and paid for or they're afraid for their very lives, knowing what happens to the enemies of the chosen ones.
Posted : 25/09/2006 10:52 am
I think Alex Jones is legit to a certain point. But he is on record as saying that any link between Israel and this horrible act of mass murder called 9-11 is crazy, impossible, etc. ..
I listen to Alex Jones pretty much every day. He constantly talks about Israeli involvement in 9 -- 11. He has mentioned the dancing Israelis, and the US not prosecuting them. I've heard him call Mossad, and IDF, "skum." Being a jebus-freak, he is forced to make a distinction between Zionists and "ordinary Jews." Well tough, I guarantee you, that is the best we can hope for with anyone who actually has some pull.
He quickly blames Israel for the attack on the USS Liberty, but does give LBJ some direct blame. I know more about the attack on the USS Liberty than anyone on the forum. I was a communications technician in the US Navy, the same rate as the technicians on the USS Liberty and the USS Pueblo, and although I was not cleared to know stuff for about a year after the attack, I knew many CTs who had been on duty during the attack, and heard it all, from all sides. I also talked to crewmen of the Liberty. Many of them believed that LBJ had been a part of the attack, and had been blackmailed by the Israelis.
Enkidu
Hunter S. Thompson, "Big dark, coming soon"
Posted : 25/09/2006 11:11 am
Topic starter
I listen to Alex Jones pretty much every day. He constantly talks about Israeli involvement in 9 -- 11. He has mentioned the dancing Israelis, and the US not prosecuting them. I've heard him call Mossad, and IDF, "skum." Being a jebus-freak, he is forced to make a distinction between Zionists and "ordinary Jews." Well tough, I guarantee you, that is the best we can hope for with anyone who actually has some pull.
He quickly blames Israel for the attack on the USS Liberty, but does give LBJ some direct blame. I know more about the attack on the USS Liberty than anyone on the forum. I was a communications technician in the US Navy, the same rate as the technicians on the USS Liberty and the USS Pueblo, and although I was not cleared to know stuff for about a year after the attack, I knew many CTs who had been on duty during the attack, and heard it all, from all sides. I also talked to crewmen of the Liberty. Many of them believed that LBJ had been a part of the attack, and had been blackmailed by the Israelis.
Enkidu
Jones puts full blame on LBJ on one of his major videos -- though he admits Israeli jets attacked the Liberty (how could he not?).
Your personal experience re the Liberty is most interesting -- makes you a good resource.
Posted : 25/09/2006 11:31 am
1. i think alex jones is afraid of jews/israelis, and does not secretly support them. his verbiage in israel's favor is, i believe, out of fear (a perfectly rational fear, if one wants to prolong one's life). also, he's highly career conscious, and fears jews for this reason too. a real balancing act for the guy.
2. interesting that this seargent speaking out is hispanic. they don't have the same blind fear of the jew as we whites do, probably thanks to a lower intelligence (yes, our superior intelligence makes us aware of just how treachorous those hebies are, and we quite naturally, out of self-preservation, keep our mouths shut in public about the JOOOOOZ and izzies; we don't want our car or house fire-bombed, right? or our loved ones murdered...)
that's why i think, again i'll sing the same tune, that OTHER races need to be jew-awakened, since they have less self-control and will probably stick their neck out there quicker than we will.
3. the theory is probably close to the truth. the basic truth is probably: the israelis were the masterminds and carried out most of the operation, and the traitors in the usa govt. were in a support role.
4. i agree, that most politicians get the stamp of approval from big jew's media and win are compromisable, usually because, like clinton, they have voracious sex drives, are closet homos, or have some major skeleton in the closet that izzy and co. find out about and use to master them. this is probably the main reason gentiles high up in govt. like cheney and bush probably went along with 911; not out of conviction, but out of fear and desire to hold onto power at any cost.
Posted : 25/09/2006 11:38 am
Jones puts full blame on LBJ on one of his major videos -- though he admits Israeli jets attacked the Liberty (how could he not?).
Your personal experience re the Liberty is most interesting -- makes you a good resource.
He states in "Terror Storm" that the attack was a knowing attack by the Israelis--That they absolutely knew whom they were attacking, that is, there was no "mistaken identity." He states that the Israelis planned the attacked in an attempt to blame it on the Egyptians, and then he mentions LBJ's direct involvement.
I will re-watch the video later to clarify this. Honest, other than separating jews from Zionists, he gives Israel no slack whatsoever. And like it or not, there is no chance that whites in large number will ever go farther than this.
Enkidu
Hunter S. Thompson, "Big dark, coming soon"
Posted : 25/09/2006 11:41 am
Topic starter
He states in "Terror Storm" that the attack was a knowing attack by the Israelis--That they absolutely knew whom they were attacking, that is, there was no "mistaken identity." He states that the Israelis planned the attacked in an attempt to blame it on the Egyptians, and then he mentions LBJ's direct involvement.
I will re-watch the video later to clarify this. Honest, other than separating jews from Zionists, he gives Israel no slack whatsoever. And like it or not, there is no chance that whites in large number will ever go farther than this.
Enkidu
"Ever" is a long time. History has made sudden unexpected shifts many times.
Posted : 25/09/2006 11:46 am
"Ever" is a long time. History has made sudden unexpected shifts many times.
We can hope. And, you are right, sometimes things that seemed impossible on Monday can happen in 15 minutes on Tuesday. We can hope.
Until then, good trading, my friend. I'm a little out of the money this month. Damn it, silver, de-couple from oil and get back to $12.50. I haven't had a down month in over a year, and I'm about to. (Not much, but it is annoying). Make me some money, silver!
Enkidu
Hunter S. Thompson, "Big dark, coming soon"
Posted : 25/09/2006 11:55 am
Topic starter
We can hope. And, you are right, sometimes things that seemed impossible on Monday can happen in 15 minutes on Tuesday. We can hope.
Until then, good trading, my friend. I'm a little out of the money this month. Damn it, silver, de-couple from oil and get back to $12.50. I haven't had a down month in over a year, and I'm about to. (Not much, but it is annoying). Make me some money, silver!
Enkidu
In silver, I have a silver option bull spread and an $11.00 silver put. I'm now trying to catch a drop back to $11.00 and add one long silver mini futures (against my silver put) -- in case silver decides, after some fluctuating, to go up to $14.00. I may not get the chance to buy a silver mini at this point. I think it's about 50-50 whether the next significant move for silver will be up or down. I'm in good shape for a down move, but not in a strong position for an up move. So I feel frustrated too.
Posted : 25/09/2006 12:20 pm
(Do only mestizo military men have any guts these days?)
I think so. Another one (a sergeant too I think) blew the whistle on the poppies the CIA has been freighting out of Afganistan since it was liberated from the Taliban.
Whites apparently talk little about such things which leads me to...
I know more about the attack on the USS Liberty than anyone on the forum. I was a communications technician in the US Navy, the same rate as the technicians on the USS Liberty and the USS Pueblo, and although I was not cleared to know stuff for about a year after the attack, I knew many CTs who had been on duty during the attack, and heard it all, from all sides. I also talked to crewmen of the Liberty.
Four goddam years I was in, roughly during this time, and I got nothing but rumors. I only got solid information about the Liberty when the Ennis book came out five years after I got out. And my last duty station was the fucking Sixth Fleet staff. Communications was right down the hall from me, right next to the nuclear weapons office.
My point:
Never let anybody tell you "secrets can't be kept". Secrets are kept all the time. The Manhattan Project ran for years and included tens of thousands of people. Not one leak, not one.
Enkidu was in the right rating and knew the right people. I wasn't. Same thing on 911: The people involved only talked to their peers, in this case meaning other pro-Zionist criminals.
Keep this in mind when debunkers tell you 911 was "too big" and "somebody had to talk." Bullshit.
“When I get re-elected I'm going to fuck the Jews" -- Jimmy Carter, 1980.
Posted : 25/09/2006 1:43 pm
Cheney Gave Stand Down Order! http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=38767
According to this 9/11 Whistle Blower Sergeant Lauro "LJ" Chavez
http://www.v911t.org/SergeantLauroChavez.php
(excerpt)
Ill start by saying a few months prior it was announced by President Bush that Dick Cheney would be heading up operations over NORAD our North American Aerospace Defense Command. Along with many of my peers, we were shocked. Over the years, if you research NORAD, it has always been under the command of a Military officer. It was done this way because the defense of this country has always been in the hands of
such. Prior to the months before 9-11 this was all of the sudden
changed. Like I said, if you research NORAD and the command structure you will find that it was imposed long ago that the military should be in control of the order to scramble planes in the defense of American air space. For some strange reason, Bush changed this and gave that power to a civilian person on his Staff team yes I know, very interesting.
Back to the morning of 9-11; the command was busy with this training exercise. We were instructed to bring all our gear in to prep for a mock (staged) deployment to the Middle East. On the morning of 9-11 I had been on base prepped and ready to go since about 0400am. During my time at the base that morning, they were setting up barriers around the command and placing gun posts on the roofs. When I questioned one of the security officers about the machine gun and shoulder fired rockets on the roof I was given the answer its a precaution for a plane attempting to crash into this building.
So, I was standing in the SCIF (Secure Compartmented Information Facility), which is basically this underground bunker command post for USCENTCOM, when the first plane hit. We were watching the fly patterns of all the planes on the aerospace grid. This contained not only all commercial flights at the time, but all military flights, and fake enemy planes that were supposedly put on there for the exercise. Many of the planes sent to intercept the fake blips were scrambled from Andrews which is an air defense AFB for the East Coast. They were sent
across the US and left very few planes to defend the capital. After the first plane hit the tower we were all in disbelief. After the initial shock was over, our questions were what are the odds this could happen for real, during a training exercise thats covering the same scenario? We were all at wits end. Then to top all of this off, Cheney gave NORAD the order to stand down scrambling jets to intercept. A few moments later tower 2 was hit. Only after the Pentagon was hit, did he give the orders to scramble the jets to intercept the plane bound for the White House.
Earlier this year I was watching the Discovery channel. They have a PBS program called Rebuilding America. This particular episode was about the WTC building 7. They interviewed Larry Silverstein (the owner) about building 7. He stated on national TV the following which is the direct quote and can be found here:
http://www.wtc7.net/pullit.html
I remember getting a call from the, ER, fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, "We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it." And they made that decision to pull and we watched the building collapse.
DICK CHENEY... GUILTY!!!
LARRY SILVERSTEIN... GUILTY!!!
Any more names for the GUILTY LIST?
"9/11 GUILT/ THE PROOF IS IN YOUR HANDS":
http://www.wtc7.net/store/videos/proof/index.html
Hal Turner catches the wave
http://www.halturnershow.com/MilitaryEyeWitnessSaysCheneyOrderedAirForceToStandDownon9-11.html
ALEX JONES CATCHES THE WAVE
http://infowars.net/articles/September2006/260906Chavez.htm
911: Drive It Hard! Drive It Heavy! Drive It Home!
http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=38564
Be prepared.
Posted : 25/09/2006 9:43 pm
DICK CHENEY... GUILTY!!!
LARRY SILVERSTEIN... GUILTY!!!Any more names for the GUILTY LIST?
yeah. every mossad agent. everyone in the jewish mafia that controls the media. round 'em up!
Posted : 25/09/2006 9:51 pm
Can we throw them all out now? http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=38175
YOU MEAN THESE FILTHY LYING WHORES?
http://www.realnews247.com/who_rules_america_updated_2004.htm
OR DO YOU MEAN THESE FILTHY LYING WHORES?
http://100777.com/node/1612
yeah. every mossad agent. everyone in the jewish mafia that controls the media. round 'em up!
Great pictures of what a controlled Demolition "Shape-Charge" looks like!!
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/wtc2_cutter.html
Be prepared.
Posted : 25/09/2006 9:56 pm
Though LBJ looked like such an outstanding guy.
How could such an obviously righteous person have been up to so much wickedness?
And this is the guy who took over after the handsome and congenial JFK?
A few winners and a whole lot of ugly mofos.
Aren't Americans famous for judging a book by its cover?
Posted : 27/09/2006 9:47 pm
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