Phelps is a piece of shit and has completely fooled...well the fools. The only effect he has ever had is to discredit any honest complaint against the homosexualization of our culture.

What the hell do you think he is doing by having his trash picket the funeral of a dead Soldier. His purpose is to bring hatred against anyone who questions the War in Iraq.

When his trash pickets and shouts vulgar slogans at the funeral of a worthless piece of homo trash like Matthew Sheppard, the only effect is to make the average American feel sympathy for the fag and hatred for anyone who criticizes fags.

Yeah! He is having an effect. Damn! This forum has some dim bulbs.

Enkidu

Well said, on all points.

Exactly why does he picket dead soldiers, anyway? When I first heard he was doing this, I assumed it was because he'd learned about a queer soldier. But now, it seems all he does is picket the funerals of dead servicemen. Surely there aren't that many faggots in the military.

Can you imagine being at the funeral of your perfectly normal son, then looking out and seeing these asswipes protesting?

But again, you are exactly right: Phelps's cult does nothing but create a net effect of sympathy for fags.

I like Fred Phelps because he practices his first amendment right without apology.

What about the sanctity of a funeral?

What about the sanctity of a funeral?

Back around 1970 jew york gays were staging protests and busting into Catholic churches during mass and a law had to be passed to make it a crime to disrupt a religious service.

You'd think that would apply to a funeral, unless Phelps only pickets the atheists.

Back around 1970 jew york gays were staging protests and busting into Catholic churches during mass and a law had to be passed to make it a crime to disrupt a religious service.

You'd think that would apply to a funeral, unless Phelps only pickets the atheists.

Back when this country was traditional and masculine, Phelps would have simply been stomped into the ground at the first funeral he disrupted, and every cop in the country would have looked the other way.

Is that a fact? (drunk)

They were here a few years ago...and I was actually thinking of going down and joining them with a few others. Read about it HERE.

-Jim

I know that he used to be a big drunk. I wouldn't be suprised if he still was.

What about the sanctity of a funeral?

I know what you mean, it is in bad taste, and if he and his people were to do at a member of my family or friends funeral it would be difficult for me not to physically harm them. I look at what Phelps is doing on a larger scale. I see him using his right to speak freely in the most sensitive of situations. The public criticizing of the non White straight male has become taboo in this country. I see what he is doing as taking a shot at the PC establishment in their under belly. I want to see White doing the same against the jews, niggers, and muds as Phelps is doing towards the homosexuals.

I know what you mean, it is in bad taste, and if he and his people were to do at a member of my family or friends funeral it would be difficult for me not to physically harm them. I look at what Phelps is doing on a larger scale. I see him using his right to speak freely in the most sensitive of situations. The public criticizing of the non White straight male has become taboo in this country. I see what he is doing as taking a shot at the PC establishment in their under belly. I want to see White doing the same against the jews, niggers, and muds as Phelps is doing towards the homosexuals.

I think that Phelps is a propaganda asset for the gays, kind of the way Al Sharpton, and even Jesse Jackson, are assets for our cause.

I think that Phelps is a propaganda asset for the gays, kind of the way Al Sharpton, and even Jesse Jackson, are assets for our cause.

He might be. I wouldn't put it past the fags pulling off something like that. I don't think what Fred Phelps exactly is, is overly important in this matter. What is important is he's not giving into societal norms that have made it taboo to criticize the non straight White male.

Phelps is insane. He makes no sense when he talks, he is a raging alcoholic and I hate the guy.

By the way he only hates fags, he thinks that race mixing is ok because the bible dosent say anything about racial issues. So he doesnt do shit for us.

He said something to the effect of, "The Bible says, 'Thou shalt not be gay. It doesn't say 'Thou shalt not be black'." So I guess that's fine by him

Protesting outside Brokeback Mountain or some queer watering hole is one thing, but outside the funerals of soldiers killed in Iraq??? I just don't see how anything positive could be accomplished. It just further marginalizes any legit anti fag efforts out there.
The guy seems to operate under the "any publicity is good publicity" belief. I just don't believe it to be an intelligent way to go about it. The purpose in any propaganda activity is to inform the public of your basic message/position and to make them curious enough to look into it further. I mean that has always been the purpose as I have looked at it whenever I flyered, hung banners, or attended meetings, concerts, etc. If the message you give out so repulses people that there is no way they will ever take you seriously then to me it is a wasted action. Phelps efforts just hurt anybody else who is serious about spreading an anti homesexual message. Most people I talk to absolutly don't support rights for queers, but they are disgusted by the crassness and White trash actions of Phelps.
Utilizing what rights we still have to get our message out is good, but if your method of getting it out is doing more harm than good, well, maybe new ways of doing so should be considered.

14/88

He might be. I wouldn't put it past the fags pulling off something like that. I don't think what Fred Phelps exactly is, is overly important in this matter. What is important is he's not giving into societal norms that have made it taboo to criticize the non straight White male.

I didnt mean "asset" in the agent sense, only that Phelps inadvertently serves the interests of his enemies by violating the sanctity of funerals.

He's an embarrassment, and likely funded by groups like the SPLC. Yet another example of lunacy being associated with natural feelings, which is one of the most effective tactics utilized by the antis. One of the biggest things that keeps people away from WNism is, of course, the media's portayal of WN and their association with degeneracy.

If someone ever tried that at the funeral of a relative of mine, we'd be digging two plots that day.

I didnt mean "asset" in the agent sense, only that Phelps inadvertently serves the interests of his enemies by violating the sanctity of funerals.

OK, I got you now. As I stated earlier tonight on a thread about Bobby Fischer, I support aspects of his message, but I don't support him, because he's a kike. Fred Phelps is a kook, but I support his message in the sense of a grander scheme. The majority of Americans have no clue who Fred Phelps is, the one's who are really serving he interest of homos are the countless media outlets (mostly jew controlled) who glamorize the homosexual lifestyle daily on the TV and print media. Phelps is a small fish who appeals to some Christian fundamentalist who happen to take their jew inspired bible to be the absolute truth.

He's an embarrassment, and likely funded by groups like the SPLC. Yet another example of lunacy being associated with natural feelings, which is one of the most effective tactics utilized by the antis. One of the biggest things that keeps people away from WNism is, of course, the media's portayal of WN and their association with degeneracy.

If someone ever tried that at the funeral of a relative of mine, we'd be digging two plots that day.

I don't associate Phelps with WN, and hope the general public doesn't either. He is a Christian fundamentalist. The Christian fundies don't see race, they see believers and non believers. When they hold a protest against abortion, they aren't protesting against White women having abortions, but women in general.