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VNNF search of "Dale Kimball" shows no title post of the late March story-
CAN ANYONE FIND FED JUDGE DALE KIMBALL'S ACTUAL RULING MENTIONING ETHNIC KIKE MORRIS DEES'? WEEKENDINTERVIEW.COM pdf DOESN'T OPEN.
http://weekendinterviewshow.com/JudgeKi ... eDeath.pdf
http://66.249.93.104/search?q=cache:jMD2qxOM1_YJ:thestressblog.com/2006/03/30/federal-judge-admits-informant-inside-okcbomb-plot-morris-dees-of-the-splc-implicated/+JUDGE+DALE+KIMBALL%2Bdees&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1

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http://www.gnn.tv/threads/11866/SEE_MY_OKLAHOMA_CITY_COVER_UP_VIDEO_I_UPLOADED

SALT LAKE CITY A federal judge on Thursday rewrote a sentence to clarify a ruling that had suggested Timothy McVeigh received help from paramilitary militias in the Oklahoma City bombing and that the government had an informant in the bombing conspiracy.
U.S. District Judge Dale Kimball had issued a decision that called those two claims "fact’’.

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[color="Red"]Judge Orders Southern Poverty Law Center Investigated For Complicity In Oklahoma City Bombing
FBI Ordered To Release Documents Disclosing Their Association With Morris Dees, Who May Have Encouraged Attack To Raise Money

3/30/2006 10:35:17 PM

Oklahoma City, Oklahoma -- In a stunning development today in the ongoing Freedom of Information trial surrounding the Oklahoma City bombing, a federal judge ruled that Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh had help from "inside the militia movement" and ordered that several people and organizations, including the Southern Poverty Law Center, be investigated for complicity in the 1995 terrorist attack.
US District Court Judge Dale Kimball ruled today that the Southern Poverty Law Center defintely received warnings about the planned bombing of the Oklahoma City federal building when Timothy McVeigh called Elohim City looking for Andreas Strassmeir, also believed by some to be an informant, just days before the attack, and may have instructed one of their informants to help organize and plan the bombing:

"Plaintiff points out the fact that this document indicates there was an undercover operative [affiliated with the SPLC] in with Timothy McVeigh and members of the various militia groups who aided and supported McVeigh, but plaintiff wonders why, given the subject matter, there are no earlier records produced by the FBI."

The judge followed that by ordering the FBI to release any and all documents relating to their relationship to Morris Dees, the Southern Poverty Law Center, and the group's informants.

The judge also ruled that Kenneth Trentadue and Richard Lee Guthrie, individuals involved with the Aryan Republican Army, a bank robbery group believed by some to be linked to McVeigh, were beaten, tortured and murdered by US FBI agents who attempted to cover up the killing by refusing to release internal agency documents:

"While the FBI's failure to discover documents is not necessarily and indication of bad faith, it is puzzling that so many documents could be referenced but not produced."

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Southern Poverty Law Center subject of Utah Court probe
Posted by Larry Darby on Saturday April 15, 2006 at 6:55 pm MST

Larry Darby for Attorney General, POB 3905, Montgomery, AL 36109 334-270-8223

Statement on Southern Poverty Law Center and

Apparent Complicity in Oklahoma City Bombing

When elected Attorney-General for the State of Alabama I intend to launch a thorough probe into possible illegal activities by the Southern Poverty Law Center (SoPo). I believe a probe will expose evidence sufficient to empty SoPo’s coffers and run them out of the State of Alabama

I have obtained copies of FBI teletypes and other documents in an ongoing federal court case in Utah that indicate Morris Dees and SoPo had prior knowledge of the April 19, 1995 bombing of the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City and failed to act responsibly, allowing the bombing to go forward, killing 168 persons.
Jesse C. Trentadue, whose brother was tortured and killed while in federal custody because he looked like a suspect in the OKC investigation, won a $1.1 million judgment against the FBI based on intentional infliction of emotional distress. Still suspicious about his brother’s death, Trentadue sued the FBI under the Freedom of Information Act in order to acquire more information.

The FBI has obstructed justice in this case or has been reluctant to release all information it has on Dees and SoPo and their complicity in the OKC Bombing.

On March 29, USDC Judge Dale A. Kimball ordered the FBI to conduct additional searches of its records and turn them over to Trentadue. The order specifically referred to information about SoPo that the FBI referred to in documents, but were never produced as proof.

SoPo, an advocate for open borders allowing for the current Mexican invasion of the South, is believed to have had an informant working with Timothy McVeigh; the alleged informant or employee of SoPo conveniently escaped to Mexico.

SoPo has long been an embarrassment to good citizens of Alabama by their publications that slander and harass persons or businesses who express views counter to the foreign ideologies advanced by SoPo. SoPo’s writers or lawyers do not let truth or facts get in their way to destroy those they target in their quest to denigrate the South or our culture.

SoPo is quick to label good citizens as “haters” or “racists” when SoPo itself foments the things its supporters believe SoPo fights. SoPo, exposed as a non-profit fraud by the Montgomery Advertiser before that newspaper was purchased by Gannett, has long acted to instill hatred and prejudice against Alabama and its good people by creating an impression that the South is a bad place, all for the purpose of spreading its foreign ideologies, bilking gullible donors of millions of dollars each year in the process.


 
Posted : 04/06/2006 8:32 pm
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Posted : 04/06/2006 10:33 pm
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Morris is shitting his panties right about now.

This on top of the child molestation scandal?


 
Posted : 04/06/2006 10:44 pm
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Good old Moe the Molester has been getting away with too much jew supported shit for too long. Loss of political power/financial ruin/public humiliation/exposure of zionist controlled "hate laws" would be entirely fitting. Let him suffer for the rest of his lying scumbag life. He has played "god" far too many times with his maniacal stalking of the White race.


 
Posted : 04/06/2006 11:21 pm
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A quick websearch after reading this came up with:
http://www.utd.uscourts.gov/judges/kimball.html

A look at their case links
http://www.utd.uscourts.gov/documents/casepage.html
http://www.utd.uscourts.gov/documents/profpage.html
shows they only have files listed from April.
However, they say other case files are available on PACER which I believe JohnAFlynn said he had access to. Perhaps he would be so kind as to try and dig something up.
http://www.utd.uscourts.gov/documents/pacepage.html

This would be an interesting follow up to the old Goyfire story on this same subject. Hope this little bit helps.


 
Posted : 05/06/2006 1:08 pm
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A quick websearch after reading this came up with:
http://www.utd.uscourts.gov/judges/kimball.html

A look at their case links
http://www.utd.uscourts.gov/documents/casepage.html
http://www.utd.uscourts.gov/documents/profpage.html
shows they only have files listed from April.
However, they say other case files are available on PACER which I believe JohnAFlynn said he had access to. Perhaps he would be so kind as to try and dig something up.
http://www.utd.uscourts.gov/documents/pacepage.html

This would be an interesting follow up to the old Goyfire story on this same subject. Hope this little bit helps.

OK, folks, I googled a sentence from that opinion and determined the plaintiff is a fellow named Trenatdue. I then plugged that name into a PACER search for Utah and it's Trentadue v. FBI, case no. 2:04-cv-00772

I attach here the judge's full opinion.


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Posted : 05/06/2006 1:52 pm
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OK, folks, I googled a sentence from that opinion and determined the plaintiff is a fellow named Trenatdue. I then plugged that name into a PACER search for Utah and it's Trentadue v. FBI, case no. 2:04-cv-00772

I attach here the judge's full opinion.

Here's some key sections of the opinion:

Specifically, Plaintiff claims that he has discovered that the Southern Poverty Law Center (“SPLC”) and the FBI had conducted a joint sting operation at a white supremacist compound in Oklahoma, known as Elohim City, that Timothy McVeigh was a visitor to Elohim City (which was also a paramilitary training camp), and that another visitor to Elohim City was Richard Lee Guthrie. Prior to McVeigh’s execution, Plaintiff claims that he received a telephone message stating that McVeigh believed that Trentadue’s brother was killed while being interrogated by the FBI because of the FBI’s mistaken belief that Trentadue was actually Richard Lee Guthrie.

Approximately nine months after Kenneth Trentadue was allegedly murdered, Guthrie was found hanging in his cell while in federal custody. Plaintiff believes that the FBI knew, through its informant, that the Murrah Building would be bombed and failed to do anything to prevent the attack. He also claims that the FBI may have also been responsible for training McVeigh and the others who planned and carried out that attack. In pursuit of proving his theory, Plaintiff submitted a request for documents, pursuant to FOIA. He sought to obtain “documents and/or records which directly or indirectly, reported upon, concerned, referenced or referred to Morris Dees’ and/or the Southern Poverty Law Centers’ involvement with and/or connection to the Elohim City, OKBOMB, BOMBROB, Tim McVeigh, Richard Guthrie, Terry Nichols, Dennis Mahon, Robert Millar, Michael Brescia, Peter Langan and/or Andreas Strassmeir, including all contacts Dees or the SPLC may have indirectly had with the foregoing individuals through informants.” Plaintiff also sought the 302 Report of an interview he gave to the FBI on or about August 12, 1996, concerning the Mid-West Bank Robbery Gang, Kenneth Michael Trentadue, and Richard Lee Guthrie. Plaintiff subsequently filed the instant action, alleging that the FBI had failed to produce documents that were responsive to his FOIA request.

In his previous motion for partial summary judgment, filed on October 20, 2004, Plaintiff sought two specific documents and/or records subject to his FOIA request. Specifically, he sought (1) an electronic Memorandum from FBI Headquarters to the FBI’s Oklahoma City Field Office, and Omaha Field Office discussing an undercover operation involving the SPLC at a white supremacist compound in Oklahoma, [color="Red"]which Memorandum further states that the SPLC had an informant at that compound who was aware that Tim McVeigh and others intended to blow up the Murrah Federal Building. [color="Blue"](Notice that this states as a matter of fact that the "memorandum states" "the SPLC had an informant . . . who was aware that Tim McVeigh and others intended to blow up the Murrah Federal Building." This is fact contained in an intra-FBI memo! -JAF) This Memorandum was dated approximately January 4, 1996 and addressed the subject of “DOMESTIC SECURITY/TERRORISM.” It concerned FBI Case No. 174A–OC-56120 and FBI Case No. 91A-OM-41859, which were, respectively the Oklahoma City bombing investigation known as “OKBOMB” and the “Mid-West Bank Robbery Investigation known as “BOMBROB.”

The FBI, while arguing that it should not have been required to conduct any further searches, notes that it has nevertheless complied with the court’s May 5, 2005 Order and has conducted a manual search of the files listed by the court–with one exception. The FBI claims that it has not manually searched the OKBOMB file (174A-OC-56120) because that file contains over 1.2 million documents. The FBI has, however, conducted a ZyIndex search of that file, using “poverty,” (to find documents containing Souther Poverty Law Center) in conjunction with Elohim City, OKBOMB, BOMBROB, Tim McVeigh, Richard Guthrie, Terry Nichols, Dennis Mahon, Robert Millar, Michael Brescia, Peter Langan and/or Andreas Strassmeir. The FBI did not perform the search using “SPLC,” an acronym often used for the Southern Poverty Law Center, and it did not search for Morris Dees’ name.

The FBI claims that it is the FBI’s general policy not to initiate a search for such individuals without a privacy waiver or proof of death, and Plaintiff has provided neither. [color="Red"]It is unclear to the court why the FBI conducted the search of all the other individuals’ names, but declined to perform the search in reference to Mr. Dees. [color="Blue"](It may be unclear to the Court, but it is very clear to me. -JAF) [color="Red"]The FBI has not satisfied its burden in convincing the court that the FBI need not even search for documents containing Dees’ name.

While the FBI is entitled to redact any information it claims is exempt, [color="red"]subject to review by the court, the FBI shall conduct a search for such documents, similar to the search it has previously conducted regarding the OKBOMB file. To the extent the FBI claims that it need not conduct the search prior to a finding by the court that the public interest outweighs any privacy rights of Mr. Dees, [color="red"]the court hereby makes that finding, in light of the evidence proffered by Plaintiff, concerning the information provided to the FBI by Mr. Dees. The court does not, at this time, make any determination regarding the applicability of any exemptions that the FBI might claim in any documents discovered during this search.

[color="red"]Accordingly, the FBI is directed to conduct two more limited searches in the OKBOMB file: (1) a search of the General Index and ZyIndex for “SPLC” in conjunction with the individual names listed in Plaintiff’s FOIA request].

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Posted : 05/06/2006 2:28 pm
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The Judge is "troubled":

Also, it is troubling that so many of the documents produced by the FBI refer to FD-302s that were or should have been prepared, and the disclosed documents also refer to other attachments that at one time appear to have accompanied the document, yet these documents have not been produced. While the FBI’s failure to discover documents is not necessarily an indication of bad faith, it is puzzling that so many documents could be referenced but not produced. But given the nature of Plaintiff’s initial FOIA request and the searches that have been conducted by the FBI thus far, the court declines to order further searches beyond what the court has ordered above. [color="Red"]It appears likely, however, that the FBI has not seen the last FOIA request from Plaintiff.


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Posted : 05/06/2006 2:33 pm
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Holy shit. Someone better sit on Moe. I get this feeling he's packing his bags for Moracco or someplace.

Thanks for the clarification John :cheers:


 
Posted : 05/06/2006 2:39 pm
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Hey Chain, why don't you try giving Moe a call tomorrow and see if he has anything to say about this? :D


 
Posted : 05/06/2006 2:42 pm
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On June 2nd, the following docket-entry was made, accompanied by a filing by the FBI:

06/02/2006 96 NOTICE of DOCUMENT SEARCH AND PRODUCTION PURSUANT TO COURT ORDER OF MARCH 30, 2006 by Federal Bureau of Investigation, Federal Bureau of Investigation's Oklahoma City Field Office (Attachments: # 1 Hardy Declaration# 2 Exhibit 8# 3 Exhibit 8b# 4 Exhibit 9# 5 Exhibit 9a# 6 Exhibit 12# 7 Exhibit 12a# 8 August 1996 Teletype)(Christensen, Carlie) (Entered: 06/02/2006)

From the Feebs' Notice of Document Search:

1. The FBI has conducted two more limited searches of the OKBOMB file: (1) a search of the General Index and ZyIndex for “SPLC” in conjunction with the individual names, places and files listed in Plaintiff’s FOIA request of July 19, 2004; and (2) a search of the General Index and ZyIndex for “Morris Dees” in conjunction with the individual names, places and files listed in Plaintiff’s FOIA request of July 19, 2004. See Sixth Declaration of David Hardy at 2-3.

2. The FBI’s search for the abbreviation “SPLC” in conjunction with the individual names, places and files listed in Plaintiff’s FOIA request of July 19, 2004 located no new documents. Id. at 3.

3. The FBI’s search for the name “Morris Dees” in conjunction with the individual names, places, and files listed in Plaintiff’s FOIA request of July 19, 2004 located one additional document. Id. at 3. The document is a five-page teletype dated June 16, 1996 and attached to the Hardy Declaration, in redacted form, as Exhibit A. The redactions were taken pursuant to FOIA Exemptions 6 and 7(C) which protect against the invasion of personal privacy. Id. at 5-12. The document is being released to Plaintiff in its redacted form.


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Posted : 05/06/2006 2:42 pm
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Exhibit A to the Hardy Declaration is attached.


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Posted : 05/06/2006 2:49 pm
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Exhibit A to the Hardy Declaration is attached.

Total Non-event where Dees is concerned. You can bet that this was the only document "found" because it was the only one they could find that mentioned Dees without implicating him in anything.


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Posted : 05/06/2006 2:54 pm
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:mad: farg!


 
Posted : 05/06/2006 3:10 pm
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It's sounding like the SPLC and the FBI have dirt on each other, so bad that neither side wants to set off a battle of retaliatory disclosures. Qui custodiet ipsos custodes?


 
Posted : 05/06/2006 7:33 pm
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