Focus on the jew. Focus on separating the jew from his control over the media. Focus on the jew's control over the sources of wealth in America and the world.

How to do this I don't know. But the goal is right.

No one can ever be 100% certain and I may be accused of monomania, but the antiwar and 911 truth movements are getting to where they are naming the jew more than we are.

As an experiment I go to Information Clearing House and punch comments into select articles once a week. Lo and behold there's any number of posters there who bring up the Lobby, the Protocols and the put options on nearly every thread that discusses the Middle East or the WTC/Pentagon.

It's not coming, it's here. How far will it go is the only question now.

It's also the reason (has everyone noticed?) the media is treating 911 sceptics like they treated holocaust deniers two years ago. They know where the real threat is. And it's a real threat.

How to do this I don't know. But the goal is right.

The only way there is: physical assaults on the Jewish power structure. The Jew cannot be rivalled. If we can't even talk Glenn Miller down, we'll never, ever be able to talk down Big Hymie.

Either we admit we don't have the stuff it takes to attack and so drag on like this for another five years, or someone does something to upset the applecart.

No one can ever be 100% certain and I may be accused of monomania, but the antiwar and 911 truth movements are getting to where they are naming the jew more than we are.

As an experiment I go to Information Clearing House and punch comments into select articles once a week. Lo and behold there's any number of posters there who bring up the Lobby, the Protocols and the put options on nearly every thread that discusses the Middle East or the WTC/Pentagon.

It's not coming, it's here. How far will it go is the only question now.

It's also the reason (has everyone noticed?) the media is treating 911 sceptics like they treated holocaust deniers two years ago. They know where the real threat is. And it's a real threat.

I agree with you about 9-11. I've yet to post a thread on my experience at the local 9-11 meeting put on by and controlled by jews. It was an educational one for me -- and not about 9-11, because I've been following the latest about 9-11 quite closely. The meeting showed me the jew strategy re 9-11. As usual, their strategy is effective -- but 9-11 a hard one for them to keep a lid on. It could easily get out of hand for them.

This explains why the US movement is making so little progress. Certain people here don't or won't like any suggestion of realpolitik by which I mean talking to people about issues that affect their daily lives. Working in the communities, winning people's trust, building a movement, winning elections, getting ready for revolution by building from the bottom up.

The only way any movements for our people in the world that are progressing are those that have mainstreamed but maintained the core of our principles. National Socialist in reality but not in name and image.

Anyway, it's not the 1930s anymore. Most people I know who are attracted to the movement ONLY come to understand the Jewish question after a long involvement in the movement. They see mass immigration first and Jews fifth. You don't see Griffin, Le Pen, or even Duke (spit!) ranting about "it's the Jews, it's the Jews". Because they know it won't work and don't pretend that years of jewish brainwashing haven't affected our people even if many don't trust them in my land.

Easy sloganeering about "no Jews, just right" is entertaining and raises a laugh but it's childish politics. If you want to make real progress you need to form an American (I assume we're talking about the 'States) mainstream movement that doesn't rant about Jews primarily or at all. There are better ways of doing it.

A reporter once asked a friend of mine, "what is your policy on Jews" and he cleverly replied, "we have no policy on the Jews". That got people thinking.

So by all means rant and rave about Jewish conspiracies (that I happen as a National Socialist to agree with in many cases without hesitation) but don't expect to make a breakthrough any time soon.

Just a thought. Watch for the incoming fire!

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i think we are fighting too many battles at once. we should concentrate our battle solely on the jew, and worry about the niggers, spics, and other muds later.

these muds, especially niggers, are not really human, and are simply tools of the jew. so we often focus on the tool or weapon instead of the one weilding it: the jew.

of course, we want our living space free of nigs and assorted mystery meats. we want an all-white living space. we want all-white nations. but it is big jew who orchestrates our destruction, not the muds themselves. they are only tools, animals. we can remove these tools and animals much easier if we focus solely on removing the jew now.

and this will involve turning the tools of the jew back upon the jew himself. we need to propogandize to other races about the evil of the jew and how he manipulates them and seeks their ultimate destruction as well. and this will require we use rhetoric that is palatable to these other races. in other words, we have to focus our attack solely on the jew and save our attack on the muds for another day, another battle.

when we fight on so many fronts at once, we are bound to lose. if we fight, and encourage other races to fight, the jew, the jew will be in the position we are currently in: ganged up on, and fending off attackers from every which way.

EXACTLY!!! :cheers:

If it wasn't for the Jews, there wouldn't even BE any blacks in this country in the first place. Hymie brought them here, Hymie freed them, (through the agentur of their kosher stooge, Gaybraham Rothschild Lincoln) and, ever since, Hymie has been using them as a club to bash in the heads of the White race, just like he uses the fags, feminists, wetbacks, and Communists.

And Brutus is absoutely right when he says that we get mad at the club, rather than the JEW wielding it.

The problem is, we simply don't have time to wake up all, or, for that matter, even most of White Amerika to this fact. Ever since 9/11, attitudes have been hardening on both sides. The side that blindly accepts Hymie's kosher propaganda about the "evil Arab bugaboo" will *NOT* be swayed---not, at least, until there's a Sherman tank in their driveway, and then, unless that individual has a lot of guns and is willing to use them, it will already be too late. To try to convince people like that is simply a waste of our time.

There are those, however, who, although they accepted and still accept the official explanation for 9/11, began to question the policies of Bubba Gump and his kosher puppeteers about the time we invaded Iraq, or, at the very least, after they saw that Sadaam had been captured, the country had been ruined, and yet we still refused to leave.

And there are those on the so-called "Right" that fell for Bullshit's lies, hook, line, and sinker, and voted for him, not only in 2000, but again in 2004. But now, even they are beginning to turn against him, over the issues of immigration and the North American Union.

This simply cannot continue, and the regime will not allow it to. If they lose control of Congress, then confidence in the regime will continue to dissipate, and a Democratic win in 2008 will be a foregone conclusion. Believe me, people, they are *NOT* going to let that happen.

Anyone who believes that this Anglo Mafioso swine, this Jew-appointed dictator, who murdered thousands of innocent people on 9/11, and has murdered hundreds of thousands more in the five years since it happened, will simply stand idly by and allow the reigns of power to be taken from him is out of his goddamned mind. There is an "October Surprise" to end all October Surprises coming, and it will put an end to life as we know it here in Amerika.

This means we've basically got about three to four weeks to do whatever "educating" we intend to do of our own people. (I would suggest that you start with your friends and loved ones. ]intelligent Negroes are more aware of the Jewish problem than most Whites are, and aren't afraid to talk about it, either.

All we can do, therefore, is to continue to point out to them that the Jews are a separate race, and *NOT* White at all, rather than being just another White ethnic group. Remind them that is was the Jews, not us, that brought them here in the first place, and it was a stealth Jew named Lincoln who freed them, *NOT* out of any love for them as a people, or desire to see them succeed, but merely as a weapon to use against his political enemy: Southern Whites. And it was the Jews who managed to rob them of their very souls as black people, by convincing them that the only way they could succeed as a people was to assimilate themselves into White society by, basically, pretending to be White.

This, more than anything, is the source of most of the bitterness of the black race in Amerika today---the fact that they are constantly being told that, in order to succeed, they must "act White", yet, the harder they try to act White, the more obvious it becomes that they're not White, and can never be White, and then they get pissed off and burn down their neighborhood.

They are told that they have to dress like White people dress, eat what White people eat, behave like White people behave, and care about the things that White people care about----in other words, to assimilate themselves fully into the dominant White culture. That is what "civil rights" has essentially meant to black people, on a day-to-day level: Getting real chummy with Whitey, in order to convince him that you are just the same as he is.

And, in their heart of hearts, black people HATE this, because they know, deep down, that they are *NOT* the same as Whites, nor do they even WANT to be the same as Whites. They have a culture of their own that they would prefer to live in, but they know that, in order to get all the perks of modern, industrial capitalist civilization, that Hymie has been working overtime to convince them is their birthright, they must act White. And they hate it. But they do it anyway......for awhile.

If black people in this country had listened to Marcus Garvey and Booker T. Washington, instead of sell-out Commie Jew-tools like W.E.B. Dubois and Martin Lucifer Coon, they would be doing alright financially right now, and wouldn't even HAVE to play Hymie's little assimilation game to get the things that they want. They could tell Hymie to stick it up his kosher tuckus.

But the truth is, ever since Hymie "freed" the nigger from the White man's plantation, he has pretty much had them on his.

OK well we are all on the same page.....Step one is brainstorming as we are doing now.....I am not sure where it is safe to have a web conference about this subject...Yahoo maybe?.......The awarness campaign should be followed up with a boycott campaign. Magnus I like the way you feel about this....very much the way I do....The only dis-agreement I have is letting "Jews who feel controlled by jews" to be a part of the movement right off the bat....Jews are sneaky and will immediately send in spies to a movement like this. They will have to be excluded...as unfair as this sounds....it is something that cant be compromised on in the begining.

I work in banking (a field overloaded with Jews) I am just a broker so I am not sure how exactly I can use my position within the Jews to start. I will work on it. I live in an area of NJ that is LOADED with Negros and hispanics. I can fill the apartment complexes with pro minority anti Jew flyers. I am also a personal trainer/dietary advisor......I think its important for all of us Gentiles to make an effort towards our health and appearence (being fit and healthy has a HUGE impact on how much others take you seriously). In these fields I can be of help to all.....

Magnus....I assume you have the ability to make websites that will be better than the shitty one I am working on with my front page.....This is a tremendous plus for us being that the net is going to have to be a massive part of our effort especialy in the begining....Let us know what else you can do with your skills. We need a members only site that the public cannot view....as well as forums such as this one to gain members.

Anyone else who cares please step forward and lets organize this thing. No matter what you do or where you live there is at least one or two things you can do to make a large impact. We will those who's sole job is to find news, articles, etc....that are not from obvious white pride sources online to use for our agenda......

We will all need to get encrypted emails to be safe.....Hush mail I suppose (its free) Mine is rebeltozion@hushmail.com Once you have one set up send me your email address.

a couple of points:
1. the brainstorming is great, and i hope it continues, and leads to some real progress. that's why i started this thread, to get ideas going, specifically how to STOP BIG JEW. first and foremost.
2. i had only vnn in mind for my "suggestion". the reason for this is several-fold:
a. vnn already hammers the jew harder than anyone i've seen on the net, and i just want to see that intensified and focused, and my suggestion was to stick with that, and POSSIBLY entertain educating other races about the evil of the jew, and turn them against the jew. that would entail, unfortunately, toning down the nigger bashing (which is such fun, i'd hate to give it up; it can be so goddammned funny, if anything). maybe this is too much to ask.
b. vnn is a proven entity, and linder and others here have "paid the price" and proven themselves TRUSTWORTHY.
c. i don't know about starting some other org., especially with totally unknown and unproven people; that could lead to disaster. i'm a little conservative in this regard, and want to stick with just supporting vnn, not starting yet another "movement". vnn is the right one, mostly. just a matter of focus.
d. the idea for an org. WITHIN vnn would make sense, maybe even under a different name, but with linder and co. pulling the strings, even if from behind the scenes. this may be necessary to mobilize the ORCS who already know what we really think of them. but they could be useful in at least stirring up trouble for big jew and giving him more than one front on which to fight.
3. so if alex and co. find anything useful in this brainstorming thread, great. and by all means, all those with the stomach for it, the COURAGE TO COME OUT FROM BEHIND THE COMPUTER, contact alex or whoever here and offer your ideas and services. or, it's a somewhat free country, start your own org. but that's not what i'm for now.
4. we've got to steer clear of silly theories like "abe lincoln was really a jew". that makes us look ridiculous.
like alex linder says: he never calls anyone a jew unless it can be PROVEN.

I'm getting sick of this kraut's meddling condescension.

This explains why the US movement is making so little progress. Certain people here don't or won't like any suggestion of realpolitik by which I mean talking to people about issues that affect their daily lives.

What we, or rather I don't like, liebe Hansl, is Europeans talking down to my countrymen, or to me. Look at what you're doing in response to my cogent rebuttals: affecting to talk over my head. You Germans, you bloody Europeans, are so incurably self-satisfied that no one, least of all an American, may suggest that what you are doing is perhaps not so revolutionary or realpolitisch as you are pleased to think. All you're doing is playing out the parliamentary farce that has been allotted to you. Hundreds, perhaps thousands, of your own comrades think the NPD is a sham and a joke]posing. You are a typical example of a) NPD posing, b) German self-satisfaction and c) European chauvinism.

You don't see Griffin, Le Pen, or even Duke (spit!) ranting about "it's the Jews, it's the Jews".

Because Griffin and Le Pen will go to jail if they do, and Duke is too busy chasing tail in the Ukraine with Hoffmeister, or wherever the fuck they are.

If you don't like VNN's frank approach, get the fuck off VNN. You don't have the remaining freedom that we do, so you pretend that this ban on your speech is part of your grand strategy to gradually build up to revolution with more posing, this time as angelic social activists. Bullshit. You are playing a game, a game you will never win, because you are all too weak, just as we are. You're no better and no more relevant than us]just as it is no longer 1933 in Germany, America is not Germany: we have our way, you have yours. It is not your right to come here telling us what to do. VNN is what we have, and it's a lot more honest than the NPD and your "Blood & Honour" scenester crap. Bad enough that it's weighed down by pisspoor design and White Nationalists.

You're in a scene, and when someone criticizes your scene, you can't bear it. You are as blinded by your own petty rhetoric as White Nationalists here are. You are as bound by bullshit as Americans in their own movement are, yet you come here lecturing about why you Germans are better.

FUCK THE NPD. FUCK ITS SIX SEATS IN MECKLENBURG. FUCK YOUR MORALISM. YOU ARE NOT WINNING.

A FEW STOOLS IN PARLIAMENT DOES NOT EQUAL REVOLUTION. NEVER HAS. NEVER WILL.

Easy sloganeering about "no Jews, just right" is entertaining and raises a laugh but it's childish politics. If you want to make real progress you need to form an American (I assume we're talking about the 'States) mainstream movement that doesn't rant about Jews primarily or at all. There are better ways of doing it.

Yes, yes! German ways! copy Germany! This is not 1933]Watch for the incoming fire!

As I said: let me know when the NPD scores some seats in Brandenburg or NRW.

The truth is, for anyone who isn't fooled by Herr Moralist, that the East Germans have lost their fire. Ten years ago, skinheads were firebombing asylum-seekers in Hoyerswerda; today they're pretending some parliamentary scraps in the German equivalent of northern Michigan, entirely predictable considering Reunification and voting history, is a presage of revolution.

The NPD is full of shit. All parliamentary politics is shit. Europeans are full of themselves and need to be told to mind their own motherfucking business.

Another thing: if ANY of us went over to the Skadi German section, or to some German nationalist site, and said the sort of thing this guy is, you can be sure they'd get the same treatment x10. In fact, they wouldn't even get the level of criticism I am giving, not even close: they'd get ten stupid krauts calling them "dumm Amerikaner" and the like, as this one here is basically doing. Don't be fooled by it. Have spines. Don't let Euros come here telling us what's wrong with us. The only thing wrong with us is living under the Jew.

Just to be clear, I reject all "solutions", all "plans": it's all masturbatory crap. Parliament, - Christ, Europe has gone through so much, and people still have faith in Parliament! - activism, revolution, media, all just so many "success words" to bolster self-esteem and justify our squalor, Germany, America, everywhere. It's like holding out Heaven after the fact of death: suddenly death doesn't matter and the mind goes slack in self-satisfied beatitude.

So, to me, it's just absurd when a fool from one side comes over to the fools on the other side and basically says, "You are fools. You are not excelling in our method of foolery. Stop being foolish that way and be foolish this way."

Nein danke. Ich scheisse auf Weisser-Nationalismus und die NPD ohne Unterschied.

This is pretty harsh stuff, UF, to a fellow White man. I don't feel that way about the Europeans at all. They seem to be making some progress. The political work may wake up more and more Europeans. I hope so. Nor does it bother me for Europeans to give us their opinions of the best way for us. We can put all the ideas into a hopper and choose the best. We'll just have to see how it all pans out.

OK well we are all on the same page.....Step one is brainstorming as we are doing now.....I am not sure where it is safe to have a web conference about this subject...Yahoo maybe?.......The awarness campaign should be followed up with a boycott campaign. Magnus I like the way you feel about this....very much the way I do....The only dis-agreement I have is letting "Jews who feel controlled by jews" to be a part of the movement right off the bat....Jews are sneaky and will immediately send in spies to a movement like this. They will have to be excluded...as unfair as this sounds....it is something that cant be compromised on in the begining.

I work in banking (a field overloaded with Jews) I am just a broker so I am not sure how exactly I can use my position within the Jews to start. I will work on it. I live in an area of NJ that is LOADED with Negros and hispanics. I can fill the apartment complexes with pro minority anti Jew flyers. I am also a personal trainer/dietary advisor......I think its important for all of us Gentiles to make an effort towards our health and appearence (being fit and healthy has a HUGE impact on how much others take you seriously). In these fields I can be of help to all.....

Magnus....I assume you have the ability to make websites that will be better than the shitty one I am working on with my front page.....This is a tremendous plus for us being that the net is going to have to be a massive part of our effort especialy in the begining....Let us know what else you can do with your skills. We need a members only site that the public cannot view....as well as forums such as this one to gain members.

Anyone else who cares please step forward and lets organize this thing. No matter what you do or where you live there is at least one or two things you can do to make a large impact. We will those who's sole job is to find news, articles, etc....that are not from obvious white pride sources online to use for our agenda......

We will all need to get encrypted emails to be safe.....Hush mail I suppose (its free) Mine is rebeltozion@hushmail.com Once you have one set up send me your email address.

No dis-agreement. I think my statement was perhaps poorly written:
There is an elite class (which actually is made up of both jews and non-jews thought controlled by the jews) that is in the process of enslaving all of us.

I did not mean letting "Jews who feel controlled by jews" to be a part of the movement, but was rather saying that the elite (Bush, CFR, Skull&Bones, Bohemian Grove crowd) was also part of the Jewish conspiracy.

But on the other hand, now that you mention it, wouldn't having some jews on our side give us some firepower? I would imagine that the elite ruling jews do not include all jews. I have met some non-connected jews that were definitely not in the ruling elite class, and who would probably be against the enslavement of mankind through a new world order. I may be wrong, and perhaps was deceived, but just like there are white race traitors, I am sure there would be some jew traitors (patriots) as well. If that group were ever to develop, then they would definitely be locked into the Part I group in my original post. Any other level, they might find offensive.

As far as having this be a purely VNN thing. I don't know if that could be possible. What would the non-white enemies of a jewish conspiracy think when they see all of the posts trashing them? They would probably be turned off immediately and collapse all momentum.

Look at it this way, how many pro jewish groups are there in this country? How many groups are run by jews, that do not overtly talk about jewish issues, but serve their cause? There is a reason for having numerous groups. They can get support from as diverse a population as possible, while speaking directly to them.

I do, however, feel that VNN would be pivotal in bringing on board the white patriots, as well as providing a forum for uniquely white interests. There needs to be other forums, though, for interests that are broader than white-only issues. The control of world governments by the jews is definitely one of these broader issues, in my opinion. I would love any help and input from Alex, though. I know that this is an issue that he feels is of primary importance, and I am not trying to circumvent any work that he has done. I think it would be absolutely necessary to have the assistance of all VNNers involved in this project(s). My knowledge concerning the jewish control of society is minimal compared to people like Alex, so I think it would be crazy to view this as something that can be done without people like him. If Alex could help us get off the ground, that would be the best thing that could happen (since I would be a newbie at this).

I will look into Hush mail. I was thinking about PGP, but will look into what type of security Hush mail uses (I've never bothered with encryption for communications before).

Yes I could help with websites, as well as infrastructure. My technical background is pretty broad (software engineering as well as network engineering for numerous platforms, 14 years experience) - so I should be able to assist in many ways. I have to tell you I am not much of a photoshopper (I try...), so anyone would good graphic skills would definitely be helpful.

I guess right now, we should probably just take a roll call of who might be involved. Taking it offline at some point would probably be a good idea. It looks like right now, we have two who are enlisted. Hopefully more will step up. I think this is a great idea....

This explains why the US movement is making so little progress. Certain people here don't or won't like any suggestion of realpolitik by which I mean talking to people about issues that affect their daily lives. Working in the communities, winning people's trust, building a movement, winning elections, getting ready for revolution by building from the bottom up.

The only way any movements for our people in the world that are progressing are those that have mainstreamed but maintained the core of our principles. National Socialist in reality but not in name and image.

Anyway, it's not the 1930s anymore. Most people I know who are attracted to the movement ONLY come to understand the Jewish question after a long involvement in the movement. They see mass immigration first and Jews fifth. You don't see Griffin, Le Pen, or even Duke (spit!) ranting about "it's the Jews, it's the Jews". Because they know it won't work and don't pretend that years of jewish brainwashing haven't affected our people even if many don't trust them in my land.

Easy sloganeering about "no Jews, just right" is entertaining and raises a laugh but it's childish politics. If you want to make real progress you need to form an American (I assume we're talking about the 'States) mainstream movement that doesn't rant about Jews primarily or at all. There are better ways of doing it.

A reporter once asked a friend of mine, "what is your policy on Jews" and he cleverly replied, "we have no policy on the Jews". That got people thinking.

So by all means rant and rave about Jewish conspiracies (that I happen as a National Socialist to agree with in many cases without hesitation) but don't expect to make a breakthrough any time soon.

Just a thought. Watch for the incoming fire!

MW88, I just wanted to let you know that I appreciate your opinions and viewpoints. If others here don't share my view, that is fine - but please don't stop contributing. We all need to work together on these issues.

Progress is progress, no matter how small. When progress is made, others learn there is an alternative view. That is what builds momentum. When you have truth behind you, with growing momentum - nothing can stop you.

-Magnus

Magnus Danarsan said: "But on the other hand, now that you mention it, wouldn't having some jews on our side give us some firepower? I would imagine that the elite ruling jews do not include all jews.
I have met some non-connected jews that were definitely not in the ruling elite class, and who would probably be against the enslavement of mankind through a new world order.
I may be wrong, and perhaps was deceived, but just like there are white race traitors, I am sure there would be some jew traitors (patriots) as well."

My reply:

GOOD GOD, MAN! absolutely not! i have to come down hard in disagreement here. once you open that door to any jew, then any KIND of jew can get in easily. would be like fighting fire with fire. the fox garding the hen house. AMREN!

christ, if you thought my idea included awakening JEWS to a JEWISH MENACE, you grossly misunderstand me.

don't buy into that good jew/bad jew thing. yeah, there could be good jews out there (there may be martians too). but it's not worth the risk by a long shot.

This is pretty harsh stuff, UF, to a fellow White man. I don't feel that way about the Europeans at all. They seem to be making some progress. The political work may wake up more and more Europeans. I hope so. Nor does it bother me for Europeans to give us their opinions of the best way for us. We can put all the ideas into a hopper and choose the best. We'll just have to see how it all pans out.

I have a lot of personal rancor toward German nationalists, to be honest. They are, and I say this now dispassionately, a very deceitful lot, mostly owing to the oppressive laws in their country, but all the same engaging in dishonest politics. One of their favorite themes is child molestation, for example. I'm not sure why, because Germany has one of the lowest (official) rates of sexual abuse, minor or adult, in the whole world. Austria has a higher rate of child abuse due to its somewhat backward, ultra-private society, of which the Natascha Kampusch case is representative. So why do they raise the issue? Because they have little else they are allowed to talk about. Of course I am not saying that child molestation should be treated lightly, but it should definitely not be used as a substitute issue: that's just dishonorable. Same thing with Rudolf Hess. They've marched and marched and marched for this one man so much, his actions lose their appreciability, and here again it is another case of a substitute issue. All they really want to do is say Heil Hitler, but they can't, so they wax sentimental over Rudolf Hess. I can't tell you how many sappy, smarmy songs have been written about this one, quiet, rather dull and unimportant man. It's such a damn farce, Devere. No less a farce than Prussian Blue and all of that stuff here. Like Linder said, there are patriotards in Germany, too. White Nationalism, here, in Germany, or anywhere else, is 95% patriotard: fads, rhetoric, and the same rules of engagement as any other "in-group". Go against group dogma and you're a traitor, a jew or whatever else they spit at you. God forbid a man think on his own and not toe the line.

They are not making progress. Look: the NPD got 7.3% of the electorate in Mecklenburg-Vorpommern. It only sounds significant and progressive because people here, and there, want it to sound that way. They are sitting at the edge of the table like dogs and any little morsel resembling food that comes their way makes them wag their tails and salivate. That is what I'm getting at, here. The NPD has been going up and down since the 60's; they are getting a little in the East now because of Reunification. That's all. I am not kidding you, or simplifying he matter, or grinding an axe against the Germans. I am stating that since its inception in the 60's, the NPD has had a constant low-level vote base which has experienced minor fluctuations, and is now experiencing one in - again - the most sparsely populated, poorest, and whitest region of the country. That's like a few thousand people in Wisconsin voting for a Protestant mayor over a Catholic: utterly insignificant nationally and really, without exaggeration, insignificant locally. The NPD has no power because the Parliament is a sideshow and the NPD is marginalized by everyone but the DVU, which is also marginalized and unimportant. Parliament doesn't make change, guns make change. Six seats in a local Parliament don't make change, guns make change. Money makes change, guns make change. Not the NPD, and not Germans coming on here and telling us to be more like the NPD (which is logically absurd).

You are too vague, in any case. That's why I made that third post, stating my views. I don't like all the vague talk about solutions and plans and methods and so on. It's nonsense, no offense. We're gurgling under the waves crashing down on us. But that, precisely, is why this officious German offends me particularly: one fool telling other fools how to operate in very insulting, typical european fashion.

American nationalists don't see it because we have such veneration of Germany. We are literally blind to the real state of affairs there, not to speak of being half-blind to the state of affairs here. So a German comes here talking over our heads about us, and everyone is awestruck or all too ready to do the usual "working together" spiel. Why? Germans aren't supermen, they aren't celebrities, they aren't perfect. They aren't on the threshold of Revolution. In their own way, they too are just dithering away amid the decline, oblivious and happy to at least have the semblance of progress. I call that patriotardation as its very worst.