The good thing is that homosexual jews like PORC and cknott are now outing themselves.

Any of you who are defending Von think for even one second that nobody w/ half a brain will join his org? That's cuz NO leader would just throw up there hands and say I quit even once. He has many times.

You know as well as I do that if Von Bluvens would have stayed with the NSM, the forum jews would have attacked him the same.

FANTASTIC! I will work on developing the secret handshake and decoder ring!

:cheers:

NOW WE KNOW WHO THE ADULTS ARE HERE.

RE: JP

If Von is able to wade through the all of mocking and ridicule.......He should be able to recognize that the idea mentioned above is the real answer.

Due diligence and hard work devoted to forming the core principles will allow for the secondary symbolic trappings to manifest themselves as a matter of course.

He won't though. That's the problem. Bluvie is into it for entirely different reasons.

Still, I think he should start his org and let it siphon off the losers and defects, as Dr. Pierce said.

Any of you who are defending Von think for even one second that nobody w/ half a brain will join his org? That's cuz NO leader would just throw up there hands and say I quit even once. He has many times.

That's not the point. He seems sincere in his wish to further the cause of White Nationalism and as far as I am concerned that is enough to deserve at least not being treated with contempt by fellow Whites.

If you disagree with him then I don't think it is too much to ask to voice your opinion without hurling insults.

He seems sincere in his wish to further the cause of White Nationalism

If that's the case, why doesn't his new group focus on developing ideologies and ways to advocate them? But no, he's inventing ranks and designing a flag, like elementary kids do when making a 'club'.

SONS "wolf's lair superfurhherbunker"

RE: VB

You seem predisposed to ignore well intended advice from real White Nationalists who only want for you to succeed. How about listening to this guy with 11 negative rep points.

http://www.miluniform.com/US-SPECIAL-OPERATIONS-COMMA.jpg

http://www.miluniform.com

WRONG. I wasn't referring to that one. Hey, I don't care what they use, I was just pointing something out.

Oh by the way, I've got a hell of a lot more than a measly 11 negs.

OK, I'll dig up the other patch and post it.

1st Logistical Command

The name Sons of National Socialism sounds like a social fraternal organization, and not a forward thinking racial activist organization.
The flag design and color is obviously inspired by the British Union of Fascists. Its colors are great but as others have stated the arrow going to the right looks odd. Try using the Tyr rune (going straight up). This could symbolize "progress" or "the evolution of our folk".

There is no need for a military rank structure. You have activist members, supporting members, unit leaders, regional leaders, and chairman. What is the advantage of using military ranks?

It's not hard to get a platform set up. If you aren't creative enough to write one yourself then you don't belong leading any type of organization. At the very least steal one from another organization and make it your own.

I don't know why I am trying to offer suggestions...I have no real confidence that SONS will make any difference. I think print publication efforts such as The Aryan Alternative (vnn), V (national vanguard), as well as multimedia news sites like nationalvanguard.org, amren.com, and govnn.com aimed at White lemming is more useful than a typical White Nationalist organization.

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