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Is the pope really a catholic? Hmm… it’s a frigging crypto-kike.

If God is all powerful, can he make a rock so big that he can’t lift it?

That was my question when I was about 10 years old. I never did get a straight answer. Apparently a 10 year old can out think most Christian theologians.

I don’t get why this divisive topic is being given air time. What necessary relationship is there between WN and particular brands of metaphysics? Uh, none because it’s a PERSONAL issue.

Funny how on Friday night VNNB decries Jewish attacks on Christianity in the instantiation of the Jewish war on Christmas yet on Sunday night proceeds to attack it just like so many Jews. That sounds like a more relevant contradiction than the one cited by Hoosier above. (Can God draw a 4-sided triangle? Oh, golly gee, then He mustn’t exist.)

This is one of the most enlightening programs I’ve listened too. I will defiantly DL this show put it on cd and pass it around, dose Arch Stanton have any other audio files this is interesting as hell and makes a lot of sense.

I might have thought that your hostility to Christianity might be the result of jewish brainwashing.

“…I don’t get why this divisive topic is being given air time. What necessary relationship is there between WN and particular brands of metaphysics? Uh, none because it’s a PERSONAL issue. – Dave

Dear Dave;

The reason so many of us (millions and millions, as opposed to the bare thousands of the ‘hug a tree/Odinist/agnostic’ types) believe in a transcendant God, is because we look to a better world, a world redeemed from evil, and a world where Christ’s sacrifice on the Cross is applied to us, each of us, individually, to make up the deficit in our goodness, which is so lacking, even among the best of mortals.

The other reason could be, of course, is that NO civlization, ever, at ANY TIME, was able to exist without a Theological framework! And, as EVERY ONE of the Founding Fathers professed at least SOME belief roughly equivalent to today’s ‘bible believing Christian,’ (For even Jefferson’s supposed ‘deism’ is FAR and away MORE scriptural, than the least liberal of the liberal Churchianitians out there) to deny the OVERTLY CHRISTIAN RELIGIOUS character of the USA’s founding, is both to consciously (and unconsciously) aid and abet the Jews, who HATE it (Christianity, and America’s history) with a passion unknown to human minds.

That the modern occupant of the Papal Throne, along with the Patriarch of Istanbul, are in the hands of the Jews, is clear. That John Hagee is a traitor to Christ, as well as the Christianity he claims to follow (but doesn’t) does NOT negate that Christian belief- only Hagee. But that false sort of belief does not NEGATE the comments and revealed religion ( which many of those communions now deny) or that this different ethos of Christianity came OUT OF an attempt by “jews” (i.e., Edomites, bastard non-Israelites, who are the forefathers of the Pharisees, and thus, of modern “jewry”) to subvert TRUE biblical Mosaism. No, it is ALL THE MORE REASON to try something that has NOT YET been REALLY, TRULY tried, and to weed out from the ‘garden of the Lord’ those plants that ‘do not yield an increase.’

As a man, an American, a Father, and a cleric, I stand clearly with Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Jay, Franklin, as well as St. Augustine, St. John Chrysostom, Archbishop Cranmer, the KJV, Shakespeare, Wesley, Whitefield, Stevenson, Dostoeyevsky, Solzhenitsyn, Mozart, Beethoven, Bruckner, etc. in believing that Christianity (when unadulterated) is the BEST handmaiden to Western Civ that ever existed.

You stand with Nero, Nietzsche, and the other nihilists of non-human ilk, such as Camus and Sartre, Genet, and Stalin.

As the Bible says, “Choose ye this day whom ye will serve. As for me and my house, I will serve the Lord.”

Good day.

5 slain at missionary training center, church
COLO. | Gunman among dead; cop says shootings may be linked
December 10, 2007
BY JUDITH KOHLER
COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo.—- A gunman shot four staff members at a missionary training center near Denver early Sunday, killing two, after being told he couldn’t spend the night. About 12 hours later and 65 miles away in Colorado Springs, a gunman fatally shot a parishioner at a megachurch and wounded four other people before a guard killed him, police said.
One of the hospitalized victims from the second attack died Sunday at about 10:10 p.m., said Amy Sufak, a spokeswoman for Penrose Community Hospital in Colorado Springs.
The police chief in Arvada, a suburb about 15 miles west of Denver where the mission workers were shot, said the shootings may be related to those in Colorado Springs but declined to elaborate. No one had been captured in the Arvada shootings, authorities said.
Early Monday, authorities were searching a home in suburban Englewood, about 15 miles south of Denver, that they said could be related to the Colorado Springs shooting case. Results of that search were not immediately known.
”Colorado Springs has identified its suspect, and we’re there to see whether their suspect and ours are the same,” said Arvada Deputy Police Chief Gary Creagor.
Witness descriptions differed in each incident. A handgun was used in the shootings at the Youth With a Mission center in Arvada, while a rifle was used at the New Life Church in Colorado Springs, police said.
The gunman at the New Life Church was shot and killed by a church security guard after entering the church’s main foyer with high-powered rifle shortly before 1 p.m. and opening fire, Colorado Springs Police Chief Richard Myers said. Four others were wounded, and one later died.
The church’s 11 a.m. service had recently ended, and hundreds of people were milling about when the gunman opened fire. Nearby were parents picking up their children from the nursery.
Police arrived to find that the gunman had been killed by a member of the church’s armed security staff, Myers said.
”There was a courageous staff member who probably saved many lives here today,” Myers said.
Gov. Bill Ritter ordered state authorities to help investigate. The FBI and the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives were assisting. Officers found several smoke-generating devices on the church campus, Myers said. Their intended purpose wasn’t clear.
New Life was founded by the Rev. Ted Haggard, who was fired last year after a former male prostitute alleged he had a three-year cash-for-sex relationship with him. Haggard, then the president of the National Association of Evangelicals, admitted committing undisclosed ”sexual immorality…”

# Tim Harris Says:
9 December, 2007 at 8:30 pm

I’m thinking, maybe you should have read a book or two after age 10.

I did. What’s your point? It’s not my fault most Christian pastors make claims that “God is all powerful and can do anything” where a ten year old can figure out it’s not true. But most Christians walking around today will tell you the same thing, “God is all powerful” and other inexplicable things and there’s no talking to them. I am not a Christian, but I’m not all that Christian hostile either, and see some good things about it.

But when you have a group of people walking around LITERALLY believing in such things as:

A God creating day and night, water and plants, THEN gets around to creating the sun and moon,

A woman eats an apple, because a snake seduced her, and dooms every one in her species to unending horror after death. God forgot to give her knowledge of good and evil BEFORE her action, and so she broke God’s rule even though she wasn’t given the capacity to follow it. No matter, we’re all doomed to eternal torment.

But centuries later, the same God impregnates a virgin, and gives birth to another form of himself, Jesus, who saves everybody! Hooray!

And so on. I’m assuming the person reading this, can see how adopting such beliefs could make a person incredibly gullible in other areas. On the other hand, maybe people for the most part are a pretty dim lot, and adapting Christianity is 1000% better than other things, and the Jews hate it, so there has to be some good in it.

I think I’ll download the show now.

As a famous philosopher said- you can’t reason a person out of a position that they didn’t get into by reason.

After listening to the intro of this show I was really braced for something that would shake my faith. Ha! My faith is secure.

One of the mistakes is he goes on and on about the constellation of the Southern Cross supposedly being a basis of religious theology. Maybe someone should tell this fellow that this is obviously baloney, since the Southern Cross CANNOT BE SEEN in the northern hemisphere! Neither the Egyptians nor anyone else above the equator could see it!

Then there’s issues raised about various “mistranslations” in the Bible. Here’s a tip: Christianity existed BEFORE the Bible. There was no Bible at the time of the first Christians. Yes, they had the Greek Old Testament but that’s it. There was no New Testament books at that time. As time passed the four Gospels were written and gradually circulated, but it wasn’t until the fourth century that the Bible as we know it came into existence. And the King James version of the Bible didn’t exist until many centuries later.

Campbell Crawford Clan Says: “The Bible=earliest jewsmedia.”

Indeed. It’s important to note that St. Paul, a big figure in Christianity, was a Jew named Saul before he became a Christian. Many people feel that Saul/Paul was merely doing what Jews usually do, i.e., infiltrating and subverting from within.

>Wild Bill Says:
>10 December, 2007 at 2:08 pm

>One of the mistakes is he goes on and on about the constellation
>of the Southern Cross supposedly being a basis of religious
>theology. Maybe someone should tell this fellow that this is
>obviously baloney, since the Southern Cross CANNOT BE SEEN in
>the northern hemisphere! Neither the Egyptians nor anyone else
>above the equator could see it!

Wrong. Refer to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crux: “For example at the latitude of Athens in 1000 B.C., Crux was clearly visible, although it was low in the sky. [1] However, by 400 A.D., most of the constellation never rose above the horizon for Athenians. [2]
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Father John: whites, founders of America, came to Christianity by force, if you look far back enough. Prior to Christianity & Islam and its involuntary conversions, religion was not something developed and arrived at by people sitting around in committee. (Hmmm – we need a religion!) It was the simple expression of ethnicity/race. Yes, all civilization happened within a theological framework, as you say. If we can once again be with our own kind long enough in a given spot on this earth, we will find ourselves thinking alike – that will be our “theology”.

What is Christianity? It’s not only believing that Christ “died for your sins”; it’s the profound belief by the individual that everyone else is more important and worthy than him or her. Incessant self-sacrifice that will result in a world “redeemed from evil” – isn’t that bizarre even to you?

One other thing, the Southern Cross is in a similarly opposite place in the southern sky as the North Star is in the north. IOW, the sky rotates around both. The sun never rises or sets at either of these locations in the sky.

Good find, Stuyvesant. I’ve not been up on news lately or seen that, but it looks very interesting. I have in my ltd time online last few weeks looked around to get a sense of openness and I’ve found quite a bit on the subject of 9/11. It’s good for recruiting libs and cons alike, the WTC demolitions.

I did. What’s your point? It’s not my fault most Christian pastors make claims that “God is all powerful and can do anything” where a ten year old can figure out it’s not true.

YOu cannot make that statement, as you have NO empiric, scientific proof.

And that is the only ‘god’ the modern apostate worships. So, find your ‘missing link’ that God is NOT all-powerful, and I might, just MIGHT listen to your ravings.

On second thought, nah… The Fathers say, ‘after the second or third attempt, leave a heretic to wallow in his own error.

The stars of the Southern Cross aren’t part of the zodiac because they don’t move. They stay in one place. Like the North Star in the northern hemisphere, all the other stars in the southern sky essentially rotate around the Crux. That’s why its used for navigation because it stays in the same place. If you measure the angle of the star above the horizon, that will tell you your latitude. IOW, the “Sun God” doesn’t rise or set at the Southern Cross.

As a matter of fact, Father, I respect the Creator of the Universe plenty, and I know perfectly well that there is nothing I could do that could make Him/It indebted to me. I just don’t care for some of the Jesus stuff. If there was a Jesus Christ, and that is certainly not outside the realm of possibility, I think he appeared to the zheds because they needed his teachings more than any Europeans ever did. Not that it’s all wrong, it isn’t.

Well, I hope you & your Church will publicly & openly own up to its antimulticultural ideology. If I had need of a church again, I would pick the Orthodox for various reasons (silly, inferior, womanish reasons the folks at VNN would say). One of these reasons is that my family is Orthodox on my mother’s side (nice darkish people from Eastern Ukraine).

I worded that awkwardly. I’ll rephrase: Like I said, there’s no talking to Christians. It’s like trying to reason with someone who’s on an acid trip. There, that’s better.

I was on the defense. I knew Mark was going to neutralize Christianity – which distracted me. I assumed Mr. Stanton was going to do the same and although the sound was on I did not actually listen to him. This was not fair to the man. So, this evening I listened to the entire program again.

Mr. Stanton gave an account I had never heard. Indeed, it may have gone over the heads of a lot of average folks like me. Everyone should listen to the program again.

It was almost as if Mr. Stanton was there in Biblical times. He knows a lot about Judaism and the hideous nature of the Jews. He understands the Jews. Their evilness is almost beyond human understanding. But isn’t that a necessary perquisite for a parasitic species? What other belief system could they possibly have that would accommodates the carnivorous needs of the Jewish soul?

Mr. Stanton also seemed to understand Jesus in a personal way. Can you imagine that? I was fascinated. As a matter of fact, I find everything about the life of Jesus endlessly fascinating.

I liked Mr. Stanton’s talk. Although points here and there are up for conjecture what Mr. Stanton was saying made me sense a powerful Presence on the periphery of human awareness.

There’s an impostrous spawn imposed on the Amalekide related Europeids – with the purpose to destroy their bloodline – which is depicted by the ritual breaking of white bread & drinking red wine (‘blood’).
The spawn was “born” in Bethlehem, meaning ‘breadhouse’, which was a core-symbol of Paganism & the Aryan bloodline. It is feared & desired by the envious, ugly jews, who deformed Paganism to judaism.
They demonized ‘Pan’, (ia meaning bread & a two horned red Greek god) to “the devil”.

The Europeids have to bear all sins of others & share their racial flesh for the benefit of “the world”. Redemption can be found through death.

Only after the white racial body has vanished, the Turco-Mongol-Hun descended “jews” fabricated, Noahide “law”-place in history will be insured forever. The “New King” of the world will be able to ‘return’ in the incarnation of the jews/juden/juifs/joden (from Þiudans, meaning king) to enslave the world forever.