Cowardly British Tortured Germans En Masse After War
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[British barbarians at play – rather typical, eh wot? No doubt many of the torturers were only alive because Hitler stayed his hand at Dunkirk. Thus is weakness or foolishness repaid. Again I say, admiration for the British is a sure indicator of inferiority in the admirer. Fox News for Adult Children fans will see these pictures and say, “they deserved it,” just as they approve of our torturning and murdering innocent Iraqis. If the evil enemy ever gets the upper hand, why, you can bet your bottom dollar these sadistic hypocrites, these vicious mediocrities, these gorgeous skunk-cabbages of the Anglo-Christian golden age – they won’t be around so much.]
Revealed: victims of UK’s cold war torture camp
Ian Cobain
Monday April 3, 2006
The Guardian
Archive pictures of German prisoners held by the British following the second world war Archive pictures of German prisoners held by the British following the second world war. Photographs: Martin Argles
Photographs of victims of a secret torture programme operated by British authorities during the early days of the cold war are published for the first time today after being concealed for almost 60 years.
The pictures show men who had suffered months of starvation, sleep deprivation, beatings and extreme cold at one of a number of interrogation centres run by the War Office in postwar Germany.
A few were starved or beaten to death, while British soldiers are alleged to have tortured some victims with thumb screws and shin screws recovered from a gestapo prison. The men in the photographs are not Nazis, however, but suspected communists, arrested in 1946 because they were thought to support the Soviet Union, an ally 18 months earlier.
Apparently believing that war with the Soviet Union was inevitable, the War Office was seeking information about Russian military and intelligence methods. Dozens of women were also detained and tortured, as were a number of genuine Soviet agents, scores of suspected Nazis, and former members of the SS.
Yesterday there were calls for the Ministry of Defence to acknowledge what had happened and apologise. Nick Harvey, the Liberal Democrats’ defence spokesman, said: “It’s too late for anyone to be held personally responsible, or held politically to account, but it’s not too late for the MoD to acknowledge what has happened.”
Sherman Carroll, of the Medical Foundation for the Care of Victims of Torture, said British authorities should also apologise and pay compensation to survivors. “The suggestion that Britain did not use torture during world war two and in the immediate aftermath, because it was regarded as ‘ineffective’, is a mythology that has been successfully propagated for decades,” he said. “The fact that it took place should be acknowledged.”
The MoD dismissed the calls, saying questions about the interrogation centres were a matter for the Foreign Office.
Declassified Whitehall papers show that members of the Labour government of the day went to great lengths to hide the ill-treatment, in part, as one minister wrote, to conceal “the fact that we are alleged to have treated internees in a manner reminiscent of the German concentration camps”.
Almost six decades later the photographs were still being kept secret. Four months ago they were removed from a police report on the mistreatment of inmates at one of the interrogation centres, near Hanover, shortly before the document was released to the Guardian under the Freedom of Information Act.
Although the file was in the possession of the Foreign Office, the pictures were removed at the request of the Ministry of Defence. They have finally been released after an appeal by the Guardian. The photographs were taken in February 1947 by a Royal Navy officer who was determined to bring the torture programme to an end. Pictures of other victims, taken by the same officer, appear to have vanished from the Foreign Office files.
Meanwhile documents about a secret interrogation centre which the War Office operated in central London between 1945 and 1948, where large numbers of men are now known to have been badly mistreated, are still being withheld by the Ministry of Defence. Officials say the papers cannot yet be released because they have been contaminated with asbestos.
It is not clear whether the men in the photographs fully recovered from their mistreatment. It is also unclear, from examination of the War Office and Foreign Office documents now available, when the torture of prisoners in Germany came to an end.
3 April, 2006 at 8:21 pm
The Jews have been in control of Britain for a not inconsiderable amount of time. Wouldn’t suprise me if all their reasons were just excuses so the jews in old Limey could have their fun like the rest of their brothers all over Europe at the time.
Remember the British under the jews have never even really cared for their own people and have often allowed them to be butchered in useless enterprises for no other reason than they couldn’t see why not.
ORION, never forget.
3 April, 2006 at 8:25 pm
The people of the British Isles need a Kevin MacDonald type scholar to dissect Jewish influence and power in Britain.
Jews certainly played a role in the Boer War. Who can tell how far it goes back. Surely to Cromwell in some fashion.
3 April, 2006 at 9:10 pm
“Surely to Cromwell in some fashion.”
Well, yes — Cromwell’s Puritanism was infused with the Messianism and Tikkun Olam-ism that was imported from the Jewish community in Holland. Read (Jew) Graetz’s account of the readmission of the Jews:
http://www.saltshakers.com/lm/GraetzD.rtf
E. Michael Jones:
http://www.culturewars.com/2003/RevolutionaryJew.html
The Jewish/Puritan alliance was born in a mutual rejection of the cross and all it stood for, and the substitution of King David or Simon bar Kokhba or Sabbetai Sevi or Oliver Cromwell or Napoleon Bonaparte as an alternative to the suffering Christ. The Jews were so enamored of Cromwell as a potential Messiah that they sent a delegation to examine his baptismal records in Huntington, to see if he were descended from the lineage of King David. Cromwell, as Graetz points out, was driven to consummate this revolutionary alliance between Jews and Puritans on both the theoretical and the practical level:
“To bury oneself in the history, prophecy, and poetry of the Old Testament, to revere them as divine inspiration, to live in them with every emotion, yet not to consider the people who had originated all this glory and greatness as preferred and chosen was impossible. Among the Puritans, therefore, were many earnest admirers of “God’s people” and Cromwell was one of them. . . .”
The consummation of this revolutionary alliance against the Catholic Church and Catholic countries like Spain involved, in other words, not only rummaging through the Bible for images that would justify regicide, it also entailed bringing Jews, so recently expelled from the Iberian peninsula, out of their temporary home in the low countries into the land now governed by the Puritan saints. According to Graetz:
“A desire was excited in the hearts of the Puritans to see this living wonder, the Jewish people, with their own eyes, to bring Jews to England, and, by making them part of the theocratic community about to be established, stamp it with the seal of completion. The sentiments of the Puritans towards the Jews were expressed in Oliver Cromwell’s observation, “Great is my sympathy with this poor people, whom God chose and to whom He gave His law; it rejects Jesus because it does not recognize him as the Messiah.” Cromwell dreamt of a reconciliation of the Old and New Testament, of an intimate connection between the Jewish people of God and the English Puritan theocracy. But other Puritans were so absorbed in the Old Testament, that the New Testament was of no importance. Especially the visionaries in Cromwell’s army and among the members of Parliament, who were hoping for the Fifth Monarchy, or the reign of the saints, assigned to the Jewish people a glorious position in the expected millennium. A Puritan preacher, Nathaniel Holmes .. . wished . . to become the servant of Israel and serve him on bended knees. The more the tension in Israel increased . . . the more public life and religious thought assumed Jewish coloring. The only thing wanting to make one thing [was the return of the Jews].”
Cromwell’s followers felt that by readmitting the Jews to England they could bring about the second coming of Christ, the millennium, and the fifth monarchy mentioned in the book of Daniel. In short, the middle of the 17th century was suffused with an apocalyptic vision of Christ’s kingdom being actually established in the here and now. Jewish refugees from Spain and English Ranters and Fifth Monarchy men were of one mind on this issue. The Kingdom of God was at hand. Something like this had been held by Christians for over a millennium and a half, probably because its advent had been pronounced by Christ himself. What had changed, though, was the kind of kingdom Christ’s followers were supposed to expect.
3 April, 2006 at 9:26 pm
The 17th century was a time of great social and intellectual upheaval—the regicide, the spreading of Kabbalistic ideas to Holland (Isaac Luria & tikkun olam), the radical Enlightenment, Spinoza & the Enlightenment as a reaction to the Jewish presence in the West (see Adam Sutcliffe), the devlopment in the Enlightenment of ideals of universalism (even pantheism) and individualism that are precisely the opposite of what is adaptive in competition with Jewry, millenarianism on the part of Jews and gentiles, Montezino’s bogus claims of the discovery of Lost Tribes of Israel in the New World used to influence Cromwell, gentile uprising against the Jews in Poland in 1648, Jewish refugees from Poland, Manasseh ben Israel’s self-appointed mission to gain readmission of the Jews to England, general Protestant craziness, emigration of zealous “New Israelâ€? types to New England (who would later form the backbone of the abolitionist movement), etc. And it would appear that they all tie together somehow.
3 April, 2006 at 9:28 pm
I hear that most of the British Royalty are part Jewish. From Dukes to Earls to Queen Elizabeth herself, the Jews have mixed with the Gentile Elites for centuries. I got this information from a friend of a friend who was born in England and moved to the U.S. years ago. This explains why the British Government never cared about its own population or that of any other White Gentile nation.
He states that the vast majority of the British civilian population
never wanted war with Germany in both WW1 and WW2. They opposed the massive bombings of German civilian centers also. He also says the British army was used for centuries as enforcers for Jewish Businessmen and Gangsters.
I suspect that this torture of German prisoners was Jewish led. Just like what’s going on in Iraq now. We’ve seen how Ike the kike murdered over 1 million German prisoners after WW2. We also saw how the Jewish Commissar’s murdered and tortured German soldiers after the war.
Murdering and torturing prisoners after a war is a sick and disgusting trait of Jews. Gentiles are usually more forgiving and have a “let bygones be bygones attitude.”
3 April, 2006 at 9:30 pm
Heinrich Graetz’s “History of the Jews� is available online:
http://www.saltshakers.com/lm/GraetzD.rtf
Excerpts from Volume V:
The central point of the later Kabbala was most intense expectation of the Messiah; Lurya, Vital, and their disciples and followers proclaimed anew, “The kingdom of heaven is at hand.�
***
SETTLEMENT OF THE JEWS IN ENGLAND AND MANASSEH BEN ISRAEL.
1655-1657 C.E.
At the very time when the Jews of Poland were trodden down, slaughtered, or driven through Europe like terrified wild beasts, a land of freedom was opened, from which the Jews had been banished for more than three centuries and a half. England, which the wise queen Elizabeth and the brave Cromwell had raised to be the first power in Europe, a position very different from that of crumbling Poland, again admitted Jews, not indeed through the great portal, yet through the back door. But this admission was so bruited abroad, that it was like a triumph for Judaism. The Jews of Amsterdam and Hamburg looked with longing to this island, to which they were so near, with whose merchants, shipowners, and scholars they were in connection, and which promised wide scope for the exercise of their varied abilities. But settlement there seemed beset with insuperable obstacles. The English episcopal church, which exercised sway over the English conscience, was even more intolerant than the popery which it persecuted, Not grantlng freedom to Catholics and Dissenters, would it tolerate the descendants of those aspersed in the New Testament? The English people, who for centuries had seen no Jew, shared to the full the antipathy of the clergy.
***
Who would undertake to banish this strong prejudice in order to render people and rulers favorable to the descendants of Israel? The man who undertook and executed this difficult task did not belong to the first rank of intellectual men, but possessed the right measure of insight and narrowness, strength of will and flexibility, knowledge and imagination, self-denial and vanity, required for so arduous an undertaking. Manasseh ben Israel, second or third rabbi at Amsterdam, who at home played only a. subordinate part, the poor preacher who, to support his family, was obliged to resort to printing, but obtained so little profit from it, that he wished to exchange pulpit oratory for mercantile speculation, and was near settling in Brazil; he it was who won England for Judaism….
***
Manasseh ben Israel had complete grasp of Jewish literature., and knew the Christian theology of his time, and what was to be said on each point, i. e., what had been said by his predecessors.
***
THE PURITANS.
The greatest number of ardent admirers of “God’s people� were to be found in England, precisely among those who now had powerful influence in the army council and the camp.
3 April, 2006 at 10:03 pm
I am native English, and I am ashamed at what we did to the German people during two world wars and after.
But bear in mind though that we have been Jew dominated eversincse Cromwell allowed them back into the country.
Even today, the Jew-tube conditioned bunnies still think that it was a good war.
It makes me sick to soul.
3 April, 2006 at 10:47 pm
It was the British who first invented the Concentration Camp during the Boer War in the 1800’s.
4 April, 2006 at 2:20 am
More proof that there is nothing the Axis did durring WWII that the Allies didn’t also do.
4 April, 2006 at 2:24 am
yet another charge to add to the indictment against the self-chosen……vertical expulsion looks more & more the way to go……..but can this solution be implemented whilst the White Race still has that ‘fungus on the brain'(Klassen), jd-xianity?
4 April, 2006 at 5:04 am
The ‘british empire’ was really the Yiddish Empire.The military might of England was employed by Jewry to protect its global banking and business interests,and America serves the same purpose today.
To add insult to injury,professional jew obfuscators like Noam Chomsky mislead the little nitwit college students to believe that the American Empire is a WASP operation,instead of the mailed fist and enforcer of international jew gangsterism that it actually is.
4 April, 2006 at 5:53 am
“More proof that there is nothing the Axis did durring WWII that the Allies didn’t also do.”
And what moral lesson are we to draw from that? That we’re all equally despicable?
4 April, 2006 at 6:59 am
And what moral lesson are we to draw from that? That we’re all equally despicable?
We? I haven’t done anything in any war.
Most people insist in the insanity called collective guilt. There is no such thing. You are only responsible for your own actions, as any intelligent person will realize.
Also, people insist in the stupid belief that killing other humans is wrong, something we got from Christianity. Get your heads out of the sand and realize that each and every ideology preaches killing other people, they only differ in when to do it and for what reason. The truth is: an action is never evil in itself, its value always depends on the result. Killing or not – both could be either good or bad, depending.
Because of these two stupid beliefs we are forced to discuss whether Jews were killed in gas chambers or not. Me, I think it would have been a good thing if they were. I also believe that they weren’t. I also believe that it doesn’t matter, in the debate over whether the Jewish gene pool is good or bad for us here and now. Yet because of the belief in collective guilt and the belief in killing-as-evil, we have this debate. So there is some value in finding out that Brits also killed and tortured, to mess with people’s hand-wringing and anti-White attitudes.
4 April, 2006 at 7:34 am
Graetz online — thank you!
4 April, 2006 at 9:39 am
Jews believe in Aryan collective guilt, so we’d be foolish to take them one at a time.
4 April, 2006 at 11:39 am
The Brits should have known that the German soldiers bled at the russian front not only for Germany but for all of Europe including. Britain. It was the German Army that kept the red beasts out of central and western Europe.
4 April, 2006 at 12:27 pm
To H. Schnieder: you are so right!
One ought to google for the name “Leon Degrelle” and then you will discover how multinational the Euro Fascism was. The German army and the SS are heroes and admirable men; they are not like Hollywood portrays them.
Operation Barbarossa, Germany’s assault on Bolshevik Russia, was joined by soldiers from all across Europe. It is those soldiers who fought and died for Europe and our race.
4 April, 2006 at 12:30 pm
Strom Thurmond:
Thanks for posting the E. Michael Jones link. That essay is fascinating. Other historians I have read have only hinted at what he said. Amazing.
4 April, 2006 at 12:53 pm
Hubris, Heresy, And Decline: They Go Together
(Apollonian, 4 Apr 06)
White Western culture sufferes hubristic “Decline of the West” by Oswald Spengler, the West suffering hubristic heresy of neo-Pelagianism of Kant, German Transcendental Idealism (GTI), and English utilitarianism–a great fascination with guilt-complex. Thus the Judaic disease-of-opportunity thrives, and Christianity lost big in the Wars of twentieth century along w. the white race.
But with serious deterministic resurgence opposing neo-Pelagian hubris-heresy, the white-West can well come back. New Testament Conspiracy theory-analytic-template is just the theologic tool to ignite the great virtue of antisemitism. We need another Constantinian-style Christian cultural revolution. Honest elections and death to the Fed. Apollonian
4 April, 2006 at 12:58 pm
“Most people insist in the insanity called collective guilt. There is no such thing. You are only responsible for your own actions, as any intelligent person will realize.”
As Alex has mentioned, this is not quite right. That’s how we see things, but it’s not how Jews see things. Both sides egomorphize; we expect Jews to be individualists like us; they expect us to be collectivists like them. MacDonald cites Jewish historian Salo Wittmaier Baron on this point:
“To this day orthodox Jewish ethics has remained in its essence national rather than individual, and this accounts, incidentally, for the otherwise incomprehensible legal theorem of the common responsibility of all Jews for the deeds of each.”
Salo Baron, A Social and Religious History of the Jews. New York: Columbia University Press, 1952-1983.
This individualist/collectivist distinction is best understood through a review of multilevel selection theory, as explained by David Sloan Wilson. His work is the theoretical foundation for MacDonald’s analysis of the Jewish group.
MacDonald’s first book (PTSDA) examines the group strategy employed by Jews. When you read Wilson’s first book you will grasp that the implication of PTSDA is that the organized Jewish community is in fact an organism. Wilson’s second book makes this point explicit with respect to Judaism and other religious bodies governed by an internal moral code:
“Natural selection is a multilevel process that operates among groups in addition to among individuals within groups. Any unit becomes endowed with the properties inherent in the word organism to the degree that it is a unit of selection. The history of life on earth has been marked by many transitions from groups of organisms to groups as organisms. Organismic groups achieve their unity with mechanisms that suppress selection within groups…. Human evolution falls within the paradigm of multilevel selection and the major transitions of life. Moral systems provide many of the mechanisms that enable human groups to function as adaptive units.”
And, again understood in light of multilevel selection theory, the implication of Culture of Critique is that the purpose of the 20th-century intellectual movements analyzed therein was to atomize gentiles, to disorganize us, to ensure that there would be no group to compete with the Jewish group at a higher level of organization.
4 April, 2006 at 1:26 pm
Sorry to hijack this thread for discussions of the JQ in general, but I’m glad some of you have appreciated the Graetz and Jones links. If you’ve read MacDonald, I would urge you to follow up with David Sloan Wilson’s books:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0674930479/103-1275053-7752651?v=glance&n=283155
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0226901351/sr=1-1/qid=1144178446/ref=sr_1_1/103-1275053-7752651?%5Fencoding=UTF8&s=books
Here’s a link to a Rabbi discussing the Torah as an organism:
http://www.aish.com/torahportion/kolyaakov/-_Cells_of_One_Organism_-.asp
Here we become aware of a fundamental concept of Jewish living…. The Jewish nation is one continuous entity that exists throughout history. Each generation may be comprised of new individual people but the continuous entity remains.
If you were to scientifically break down any living organism into individual cells, you would discover that after a period of years, there is not one cell left with which the organism was born. Yet, do we look at an older cow, with its brand new and different group of cells from when it was a calf, as a different cow than it was many years ago? Of course not. It is the same cow even though its cells have been regenerated.
The same is true of the Jewish nation. Individual generations of Jews die, just as cells of an organism do, but they are replaced with new generations. The Jewish nation, like the organism, remains intact. The Jewish nation of today’s times is the same nation that existed at Sinai.
4 April, 2006 at 5:01 pm
There’s an easier way of saying that, one that doesn’t sound quasi-scientific: Jewish genes generally contain the same strong survival mechanism, protecting both themselves and the group.
4 April, 2006 at 5:34 pm
How do you think the jews extracted all of those CONfessions out of ex-military Germans after the war? The American Judge Edward L. van Roden was one of the three members of the Simpson Army Commission which was created to investigate the methods by which “justice” was meted out to the prisoners at the Dachau trials.
His accounts were published in the British Newspaper, Sunday Pictoral, January 23, 1949. The methods he decribed are as follows:
“Posturing as priests, to hear confessions and give absolutions; torture with burning matches driven under the prisoner’s fingernails; knocking out of teeth and breaking jaws; solitary confinement and near starvation rations.” Van Roden explaned that: “The statements which were admitted as evidence were obtained from men who had been kept in solitary confinement for three, four and five months…
“The investigators would put a black hood over the accused’s head then punch him in the face with brass knuckles, kick him and beat him with rubber hoses…All but two of the Germans, in the 139 cases we investigated, had been kicked in the testicles beyond repair. This was standard operating procedure with our American investigators.”
The “American” investigators responsible (and who later functioned as the prosecution in the trials) were: Lt.-Col Burton F. Ellis (chief of the War Crimes Committee) and his assistants, Capt. Raphael Shumacker, Lt. Robert E. Bryne, Lt. William R. Perl, Mr. Morris Ellowitz, Mr. Harry Thon and Mr. Kirshbaum. The legal advisor of the court was Col. A. H. Rosenfeld.
If you want to read more about how Germans were tortured into signing confessions, go here: http://www.stormfront.org/truth_at_last/holox/d6mrd07.htm
5 April, 2006 at 5:57 pm
You honestly don’t expect people to believe those photos do you?
I bet they are just as fake as you would claim pictures of skinny Jews in camps would be.
6 April, 2006 at 12:44 pm
Curiously it was just as the Jews were readmitted to England that Plague petered out. Then in 1666 the Great Fire of London kick-started the Insurance business in England.
Coincidence? Our ancestors thought not. But then Jews tell us our ancestors were crazy anti-semites.
That’s what Jews tell us.
Such a business.
2 April, 2007 at 4:38 pm
I was just on overthrow.com and was pleasantly surprised to find that the British education system is considering toning down the pro-Jewish, pro-holocaust rhetoric they teach children nowadays because there are certain children who apparently would be offended by these teachings. I know I was one and my teenage son is too. My son constantly bemoans the shortcomings of the education system in Britain (which teaches the diary of Anne Frank to 12 and 13 year olds and holocaust hoax theory to youngsters of the same age. I hope this measure will come off as it is a breath of fresh air to my son, myself and to thousands of white nationalists worldwide.