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Wow ‘Lenz’ you’re pretty fucked up. Lust for 12 year olds lately? Whereever you set up your sexocracy. Set it up far away from me.

2 Angle

I think you have misunderstood my point. I have no “lust” for 12 years old; the trend is 12% of girls in EU-25 and 14% of girls in U. S. and Canada become sexually active in the age of 12-13 years, and if conceive most murder their conceived children. I want these children to be born, and these girls be able to establish a family with the father of the child, aged often in 16-21 range. Currently the fathers are often persecuted under various “statutory rape” laws, and these girls are forced by parents to murder their conceived children. Personally I found this unsound and hypocritical policy, some White girls become sexually active younger than the others, this is an objective biological fact, that have to be legally accomodated.
Now this does not affect the prohibition on sex with older men, which is in place for entirely different reason: to prevent exploitation of young girls and reserve younger men opportunities to form a family. Sex between a girl below the age of 16 and a man aged 21+ would still carry a long attached prison sentence as a punishment, for good reasons.

2 Scipio Americanus

“Is George Lenz serious?”

Yes I am serious, and you should be serious too about that, Mr. Scipio Americanus. The current fertility rates for our women are 75% of the replacement level in most European countries, and the younger generation want to have even fewer kids. This means that White numbers are going to go down fast, if nothing gets done, and traditional means, whenever applied do not work.

“This guy sounds like a Neo-Marxist straight out of the Horkheimer and Adorno “Frankfurt School” of sex and perversion”.

I am not a communist, Mr. Scipio, my family actually faught communist for generations. But I am not a hypocrite either: while I am a Catholic, Christian-Victorian morale with its unnecessary repression of sexual feelings do not appeal to me.

“Let me tell you something Lenz: If some 14 year old “stud”, under your tutelage, attempted to deflower my 12 year old daughter and use her for recreational sex (what is commonly referred to as a fuck doll), that 14 year old punk would find himself “stud-less” in very short order. He would be carting his gonads around in a wheel barrel for the rest of his god-damn life. And as for you, I would be much obliged to introduce you to two of my friends: Smith and Wesson! (LOL!)”

Well, if you taught your daughter to think before making out and having kids, my respect to you, Mr. Scipio. However in faily big number of White households (12%-14%) the parents do not teach their daughter to behavior prudently: they have sex early and have children. There is serious biological and historical evidence that some White children become sexually active younger than the others. I want these girls to bear their kids and eventually have a husband, instead of rocking their immune and reproductive system by murder of the conceived child, and becoming childless, not speaking of psychological traumas associated with it. This was the policy of the Fuhrer: some German girls have sex, marry and bear kids fairly early, and the German state lessen the Christian-Victorian stigma associated with this fundamentally healthy practice by providing housing loans and jobs for young couples as well as anonimous adoption practices for those girls unwilling to bear this heavy burden. BTW, these relatively poor and ill educated girls are an interested group to recruit from for your cause; they are less feminist and more feminine, and thus lmore likely to be moved by our offer to the White women and girls.

“Rich, powerful men in the West have enjoyed mistresses on the side, but concubines? Where in the hell is he coming up with this tripe?”

It seems you haven’t read Roman, Germanic and Franc history tractats: there are lots on concubines and wives, and Aryan order of things. Those “mistresses” appeared in10th-11th century, because the Catholic Church wasn’t especially happy about concubines; while the relationship stayed the same, except the cocubne was removed from the master’s house. I urge to consult excellent though not fully appreciated writings of David Lane on the subject: he is correct in stating, that through the reneissance of concubinat White birthrate can be significantly raised, both qualitatively and quantitatively.

“Recreational sex is what we have today and look at the catastrophic effects it has wrought on our families and our nation. Recreational sex is what the Jews have been pushing and the savages of Africa engage in, George. (And apparently most Whites thanks to Hugh Heffner and the Playboy revolution of the 1960’s.)”

The dwindling White birthrate is not due to recreational sex, but due to legalization of murder of conceived children and anti-conception mentality. Personally, I am happy that we finally got rid of Christian-Victorian kind of sexual morality, which unnecessary restricted pleasures of life and number of White children, and subject some of them to scorn only because of the conditions under which they were born. What jews are pushing is decoupling of sex and conception thorugh legalized murder of unborn children and anti-conception mentality, as well as denigration of women through mass prostitution and pornography. Thus the jews put their poison, in otherwise right idea, and make Whites drink it voluntary. Hence the answer lies not in returning to old and discredited policies, but through taking bold measures to rectify mistakes of the past, while at the same time removing jewish poison from otherwise valid ideas.

“You should get together with that degenerate Jewess on the Supreme Court — Ruth Bader Ginsburg — and shoot the breeze with her regarding lowering the age of consent to 12, you pervert! Or better yet, how about making your way up to the kosher inspired People’s Republic of Kanada — 14 years is legal up there. Truly unbelievable!”

Speaking of the age of concent, I think we should differentiate it by activities a gil is engaging. At 12 some girls are competent to have sex and marry within their age group, at 16 to have sex and marry with any unrelated member of the opposite sex, at 21 to appear in sex instruction videos or strip shows if they wish so and it is legal in the community they live in. This absolutely does not mean you daughter should engage in these activities, and if you raise her right, she won’t as we all know. But if things biologically are what they are, and fundamentally healthy in their nature; I would rather accomodate them, then close my eyes on them and engage in reality denial. As I say, no one would mak me believe, that if a girl wasn’t taught by her parents how to behave herself by the age of 12 or 16, more years could change anything.

i tend to broadly agree with the abv ‘article’….what’s the G-O here?

is ‘George Lenz’ the same as ‘ftwainth’?

i’m confused!

what seems to be causing concern and confusion seems to me to me to be, basically, the idea of ‘polygamy’
(or: the idea of white men having multiple children from multiple white female partners….what-ever you want to call it: ‘concubines’, ‘mistresses’, ‘second or third wives’
[a la the Mormons], what-ever!)

clearly, ‘paedophilia’ is not being advocated or promoted here: glad that was ‘cleared up’ @ LEAST!

how much of the apparent aversion to ‘polygamy’ is based on residual judaeo-xian brain-washing?…..and YES!…..i don’t hesitate to even include professing WNs in that category, too!
(the sub-conscious jewish programming goes much deeper than most suspect!)

the White Race is in a desperate struggle against extinction!

this, now, right NOW!….the HERE & NOW! is our most desperate hour!

we had better invent some very radical strategies indeed to combat the declining White birth-rate: OTW: our race is finished!, our civilisation is done for and the planet it-self is doomed!

‘polygamy’ (between consenting white adults) seems to me to be the least drastic of the options.

other more radical ones could easily be conceived and implemented.

like: for instance: forcing women(on pain of DEATH!) to breed in ‘stud farms’ and mating them with any healthy, white male;

forcing women(on pain of DEATH!) to take ‘fertility drugs’ in order to ensure multiple births!

forcing women(on pain of DEATH!) to have such births on alternate years over multiple years until the female’s fertility cycle is exhausted! (from years: say: 17-37)

in a desperate race against extinction and obliteration, Nature allows NO ‘also-rans’! and, certainly, no out-moded and out-dated jewish moral concepts!

as David Lane, author of the 14Words, remarks: “in the future, ‘morality’ will consist of reproduction and little else!”

our guiding mantra must be: ‘populate OR PERISH!’

George Lenz: Simply because we are suffering from a decline in birth rates does not mean we should encourage children to be having sex. Sex is for adults, not children. Even though a young teenage girl is capable of reproducing does not mean that she should be doing it. She is not mature enough, mentally speaking, to handle it. Take a look at the spread of diseases, out of wed-lock births, and abortions. These would not be taking place if little girls were not being used as “fuck dolls” by little boys who have no self-control and discipline. All of this is happening because our society lacks real MEN to control things like we had done in the past. Our society has been feminized!

“This means that White numbers are going to go down fast, if nothing gets done, and traditional means, whenever applied do not work….Christian-Victorian morale with its unnecessary repression of sexual feelings do not appeal to me. .”

The Victorian repression of sexual feelings does not appeal to me either. But you ignore the basic point here: Traditional Christian standards are not the problem. We had growing numbers of White people and strong families under this “repression of sexual feelings” atmosphere that you so deplore. That morality, despite its flaws, was still stable and fertile and produced growing numbers of White people. It’s the current system that promotes “recreational sex” that has led to a collapse of families and a decline in the birth rates.

“There is serious biological and historical evidence that some White children become sexually active younger than the others. I want these girls to bear their kids and eventually have a husband, instead of rocking their immune and reproductive system by murder of the conceived child, and becoming childless, not speaking of psychological traumas associated with it. This was the policy of the Fuhrer: some German girls have sex, marry and bear kids fairly early, and the German state lessen the Christian-Victorian stigma associated with this fundamentally healthy practice by providing housing loans and jobs for young couples as well as anonimous adoption practices for those girls unwilling to bear this heavy burden.”

I will agree with you that it is better that these girls bear their children rather than abort them but you forget that the “stigma” that you so deplore forced the fathers of these bastard children to marry these girls. It was known as a “shot-gun wedding”. Why in the hell should I or other responsible people be forced to subsidize irresponsible behavior? You sound like a crazed liberal! You would have fit in well on the Warren Supreme Court! In addition, this is not the Third Reich. We live in a country with teeming masses of Third Worlders and it is impossible to put into practice what you are suggesting. Quite frankly, I’m happier than a pig in slop that Blacks and Hispanics are aborting their unwanted. That’s a good thing!

“It seems you haven’t read Roman, Germanic and Franc history tractats: there are lots on concubines and wives, and Aryan order of things.”

The Romans, in their Republican days, never had concubines. The Romans were an agricultural, farming people, who had very large, stable families with the husband at the helm. They were also a moral people. It wasn’t until the collapse of the Republic that they really became sexually loose and birth rates, slowly at first, began to decline. As for the Germanic and Franco tribes thousands of years ago, they were nothing more than a bunch of savages — dirty, long haired, unkept savages. They were not civilized people, as Roman historians well noted. Don’t attempt to transplant the morals of savages with those required to build and maintain a thriving civilization.

“Personally, I am happy that we finally got rid of Christian-Victorian kind of sexual morality, which unnecessary restricted pleasures of life and number of White children, and subject some of them to scorn only because of the conditions under which they were born.”

I find it rather odd that you always connect “Christian” and “Victorian”, as if these are synonymous with one another. They most certainly are not. The Victorian Period was the last phase of the Christian West, before modernism took over. As I said earlier, despite the flaws in Victorian thinking, at least they produced a stable, growing society with strong families and plenty of children. White populations were on the rise, not in decline, during Victorian times — something you fail to mention. Get your facts straight, Geroge.

“At 12 some girls are competent to have sex and marry within their age group, at 16 to have sex and marry with any unrelated member of the opposite sex, at 21 to appear in sex instruction videos or strip shows if they wish so and it is legal in the community they live in.”

HOGWASH! No girl in these modern times is competent to be having sex with her peers at the age of 12. George, you have gone off the deep end. Let’s face it, you are obsessed with sex. What you have stated is nothing more than a rationalization for your sick fantasies. As I stated at another post, we are human beings, not barn yard animals that mindlessly copulate. The fact that you use term “recreational sex” speaks volumes. You use it as if the word sex is synonymous with sporting or playing checkers! You can’t have strong, tightly nit families, which are the building block of any civilized society, coupled with concepts such as “recreational sex”.

Jimbo: “the White Race is in a desperate struggle against extinction”

We are not going extinct! The problem we face is not numbers. Aryans have always been a small minority amongst the world’s teaming populations. What makes us special is QUALITY, not QUANTITY. And that quality of life and stability needed for a strong, healthy civilization, was produced and maintained by having one man pair off with one women to produce offspring that would be nurtured and cared for in a manner that developed these children into mature, moral, responsible young men and woman. The threat we face is the growing numbers of Third World people who live amongst us in our homelands. Keep in mind, Third World populations exploded due to the insane Liberal policies of our governments that began exporting our technologies and medical expertise to the non-white world. Without this, the non-white populations would be very small. I’ll repeat: Our hallmark as a people has always been QUALITY, not QUANTITY.

Jimbo, obviously, the fact that our birth rates have fallen below the replacement rate is a huge concern. But that does not mean we are going extinct, at least anytime soon. We have, currently, the highest numbers of White people living than have ever existed in the past. Again, the problem is not our numbers per se, but rather the hordes of non-whites that are swarming into our homelands thanks to the policies of our own governments. Europe is packed with plenty of White people. Simply take a look at a population density map and you will see this. How many more White people do you want living there? If White populations were to increase dramatically, then Europe would have to expand via territorial conquest to support the numbers, or send its excess population to the United States (which was done in the past).

Again, non-white populations have soared world wide and in our own homelands because of our own stupidity and the destructive policies of our own governments. If you want to reduce Third World populations overseas, all we have to do is “pull the plug” on them and stop providing our medical and technological expertise. Regarding the genocidal policies of the madmen who now control the West, I would agree. There seems to be a concerted effort on the part of the ruling establishment (led by Kosher Inc.) to snuff us out, via feminism, miscegenation, abortion, taxation, non-white immigration, etc… Obviously, if these insidious policies are not eliminated, along with the hordes of Third World vermin currently living in our homelands, we will be in BIG trouble and may very well face extinction in the distant future. On that point, I entirely agree with you.