26 February, 2008

RADIO ISTINA, TUESDAY 2PM CST

Posted by alex in Announce, audio, Linder Radio, Radio Istina, VNNB at 3:48 am | Permanent Link

This will be a more casual show, with more music. Probably not any close text readings. A little more of The Secret Life of Bill Clinton, ATF lies re OKC…

Topics: feminism and language abuse, upgrades at VNNF, homeschooling and its enemies.

Starting precisely at 2 p.m.

ON AIR NOW, PLAYING MUSIC…TALK BEGINS 2:00 PM


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  7. 30 Responses to “RADIO ISTINA, TUESDAY 2PM CST”

    1. .308 Says:

      Alex rocks man

    2. Dawn Landry Says:

      Hey Alex-Great show. Instead of overlapping,what about superimposed? That pretty much sums the situation up.
      You’re one hundred percent right! Dawn

    3. Mary O Says:

      Alex, Just a small point, and I am sure that you will agree. You say that politics is defense, a masculine vocation. However, politics also includes many social issues; family, religion, morality, child-rearing, education; therefore, women need to feel included. The major threat to White society is not just from the outside (as traditionally an enemy might attack the White “polis”) but from the inside — not of just the polis, but the inside of people’s heads and hearts.

      For example, the nearly cultic behavior of White Obama followers is mainly a product of TV and emotionalism. Neither Obama nor Hillary Clinton are grassroot American politicians; do we even know these people? And Ron Paul considers MLK his personal hero? And McCaine may choose Condi Rice … Our current political situation is just too sickening for words.

      The plain fact is that we are losing. Our side is losing. We are losing to TV and Oprah Winfrey and careerism and all the rest of the leftist blame-Whitie nonsense.

      “Unite or Die.” Maybe that means tossing Bill White off the board. Use him as an example of what happens to catty little gossip-mongers who never think of anything but their own self-promotion.

      But also we need to acknowledge both women’s responsibility and importance to WN.

      “…. or DIE.” It’s horrible but true.

    4. Wolf Says:

      What a catty post.

      Bill White is a self promoter…. and your point is?

      At least he’s willing to get into the fray and mix it up with the enemy.

      Unpologetic and in your face.

      We need more men like Bill White.

    5. Mary O Says:

      Quotation from Bill White:

      “…[he] looks like a giant dung beetle. … mostly bald, with clumps of scraggly, unkempt black hair. From his facial structure and coloration he looks like he developed out of one of the multi-ethnic sewers of the New Jersey / New York slums; I’m going to guess he describes himself as an Italian …”

      Sorry, Wolf, this garbage, along with baseless accusations of serious felonies, has no place in our movement. One would expect better of a fifth-grader than this type of childish name-calling.

      My point?

      “Unite or die” — American Revolutionary War slogan

    6. sgruber Says:

      The Kwa will blow up before long. I don’t believe we’ll fade peacefully and pathetically away. It’s our job, at least, to make sure the White race DOESN’T die peacefully. “Go gently into that good night”? No. If we fail at all else, we can still, at barest minimum, effect through our memes a bloody rebellion against inevitable demise.

      That’s the dark view. The better view is that we’re right, we’re communicating and teaching, and these are the ingredients of whatever victories homo sapiens are actually capable of in this vale.

      The time has come to get rid of the jew.

    7. New America Says:

      in reply to Mary O:

      you wrote:

      “Unite or Die.” Maybe that means tossing Bill White off the board. Use him as an example of what happens to catty little gossip-mongers who never think of anything but their own self-promotion.

      in reply:
      Let’s look at the real world track record of Bill White, as compared to the real world track record of his all-too-numerous, all-too-uninformed detractors.

      White leads from the front – always has, always will.

      To the extent the NSM was successful, it was so solely as a direct result of Bill White’s taking the responsibility to make it successful; his work at the press conferences was clear, crisp, positive, and powerful.

      Indeed, when Alex Linder was being arrested in Knoxville, Bill White offered to take serious money, drive straight to Knoxville RIGHT THEN AND RIGHT THERE, and do what needed to be done to bail Linder out.

      THAT is the sort of Leadership we could all do well to emulate.

      White faces down crackhead niggers – DAILY – while taking the responsibility to make the world a better place for us, our Families, and our RACE.

      If this “Movement” developed fifty Bill Whites – one per state – we would just terrify the hook-nosed demons known as Jews, and their crackhead nigger attack animals.

      Incidentally, White has been criticized for using the classic swastika.

      Let’s be brutally honest.

      That is the ONE Sign, the ONE Symbol, that tells one and all that The.Game.Is.Over; we KNOW who The Enemy is, and we KNOW what to do about them.

      White said – and I believe this – that when he and his people distribute flyers in the working class sections of White communities, and they are dressed in the classic brownshirt/red swastika armband combination, they have no trouble whatsoever, and a lot of support, from the White people they are meeting…

      White leads by example; his ANSWP is open and transparent, which is more than the organizations of his detractors can say…

      More power to him.

      And now, a comment about the vast majority of “Movement People.”

      All too often, we have postings from people who propose grabbing grandpa’s squirrel rifle, taking the ’63 Chevy Bel-Air off the blocks and hot-wiring it, and “taking the country back.”

      These people could not lead Marines to a whorehouse.

      These people could not scrape together twenty dollars a month for Linder/VNN, or Bill White’s ANSWP.

      Basic competence in the Real World is simply beyond them, so they waste the time of one and all is delusional fantasies. Remember, individually, they have not accomplished one damn thing worthy of note in their entire lives.

      White – and Linder – have both paid a horrific price to Awaken, and continue to pay a price for their roles as intellectually honest stewards of White Nationalism as it could – and damn well SHOULD – be.

      They have taken the burden upon themselves of being what they want the world to become.

      We are all much better off for that, and should emulate their examples to the extent we can.

      While we can…

      New America

      An Idea Whose Time Is HERE!

    8. New America Says:

      in reply to sgruber:

      You wrote:

      The Kwa will blow up before long. I don’t believe we’ll fade peacefully and pathetically away. It’s our job, at least, to make sure the White race DOESN’T die peacefully. “Go gently into that good night”? No. If we fail at all else, we can still, at barest minimum, effect through our memes a bloody rebellion against inevitable demise.

      in reply:
      Harold Covington has written about elements of the collapse of the nation/state as we know it in his First Northwest Trilogy, in general, and “A Distant Thunder,” in particular.

      His basic point was, and remains, that the form of the nation/state will fail at the margins.

      His greater point, which is where the real opportunities for us lies, is that this presents incredible opportunities for us to have a framework in place to, essentially, replace the dead with the living.

      THAT is the real challenge before us…

      you wrote:

      That’s the dark view. The better view is that we’re right, we’re communicating and teaching, and these are the ingredients of whatever victories homo sapiens are actually capable of in this vale.

      in reply:
      That’s the KEY to all of this; it is, literally, a RACE WAR between homo sapiens, possibly as the foundation for homo novus, and the mud races, as to whether or not this planet will be a lighthouse of growth, and grace, or a dark, cold, demon-infested ball of mud.

      you wrote:

      The time has come to get rid of the jew.

      in reply:
      The easiest way to do that is to develop social structures that are free of Jewish control, and Jewish influence.

      The first step is for all of us to get out of debt, as quickly as possible.

      The second step could take any of many paths, but, clearly, home-schooling – after you have removed the electronic Rabbi, the Jew Tube, from your house – is very high up on the list.

      Damn!

      I’m sorry.

      The first step is to start where you are, and send at least twenty dollars a month to Alex Linder!

      And if that is too challenging for you – and it seems to be, for all too many of us – then maybe we need to return to Square One, and ask yourself what your REAL “Plan For The Future” entails….

      Besides sitting down on Friday night with a case of beer, and some cheese nachos.

      New America

      An Idea Whose Time Is HERE!

    9. Mary O Says:

      New America,

      “White faces down crackhead niggers – DAILY – while taking the responsibility to make the world a better place for us, our Families, and our RACE.”

      Where exactly? If White is performing significant service to White communities, why doesn’t he write about his activities instead of launching invective against anyone who tries to reach out to other politically-minded Whites?

      Personal criticism should be kept civil and private.

      Personally, I have nothing against the swastika: an ancient Aryan symbol, historically ours; nor do I necessarily oppose NS, though I am more of a conservative; however, the public vitriol needs to be curbed because divisiveness is weakening our movement.

    10. New America Says:

      in reply to Mary O:

      you wrote:

      “White faces down crackhead niggers – DAILY – while taking the responsibility to make the world a better place for us, our Families, and our RACE.”

      Where exactly? If White is performing significant service to White communities, why doesn’t he write about his activities instead of launching invective against anyone who tries to reach out to other politically-minded Whites?

      in reply:
      This is part and parcel of his work as a landlord, as well as his casual meetings with the crackhead niggers on the street. He discusses this on his Forum, at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nsmamerica/.

      Mind you, this is what he does daily.

      Clearly, he practices what the best of us preach.

      you wrote:

      Personal criticism should be kept civil and private.

      in reply:
      In the best of all possible worlds, with the best of all possible people, this would be best of all.

      In the world as it is, we have many people in the so-called “Movement” who are no more fit for “Movement” responsibilities than they are for, well, living lives that resemble normalcy.

      We have people who have the Form of “Leadership,” but lack the Substance to actually fulfill Leadership Responsibilities. Self-proclaimed “Leaders” must be exposed as an example to the rest of us. The words “National Alliance” comes to mind.

      To his credit, White runs his ANSWP as a model of transparency.

      This is an example we would all do well to emulate.

      Criticism, under such circumstances, may be as ruthless as intellectual honesty, and moral integrity, may dictate.

      A lot of the criticism of Bill White, for example, seems to be coming from people who have not done a fraction of what he has; is this “criticism” more a reflection of jealously?

      I suspect so.

      you wrote:

      Personally, I have nothing against the swastika: an ancient Aryan symbol, historically ours; nor do I necessarily oppose NS, though I am more of a conservative; however, the public vitriol needs to be curbed because divisiveness is weakening our movement.

      in reply:
      When we have more than ten people who send twenty dollars a month to Alex Linder – each and every month, without fail – a LOT more than ten people, and a LOT more than twenty dollars a month apiece, I will begin to discuss the Idea of us forming a “Movement.”

      At best, right now, we have a Cause, and it is the greatest and most noble of all Causes – building a New Civilization based explicitly on the Positive Theory of RACE.

      We are lucky; we do attract first-rate people, like Linder, White, Bob Whitaker, and Harold Covington, among others.

      In short, thanks to the Internet, we have the possible Beginning of a Beginning.

      Right now, “divisiveness” seems to be little more than the wheat separating from the chaff at Internet speeds.

      Of course, I may be wrong…

      But I doubt it.

      Covington’s Paradox – “The best Idea attracts the worst people” – is being invalidated by the simple fact that the Forces that led people to the Forms of White Nationalism in the past, are striking a much larger population, with access to the Internet, where they can realize they are NOT alone, and it is NOT just they who feel this way.

      In short, a much larger Universe has larger measures of standard deviation; more of the bad stuff at the low end, and more of the better stuff, at the high end. The Internet allows the stuff at the high end to meet, and begin to organize.

      It may be that Covington’s Conundrum might well be proven correct: “The system is designed to PREVENT the very thing we are trying to accomplish. Why, then, do we persist in attempting to work within the system?”

      The answer is, we are working WITHIN the System while we develop ourselves, and the Foundations for a better System, to organically replace the failed current state of affairs.

      The examples of Bill White, and Alex Linder, help us to remember that the true Enemy to our Racial Greatness may be seen in the mirror.

      THAT is the person whose sloth, and lack of discipline, hold us back far more effectively than an army of bayonets.

      THAT is the reason for mutual criticism, at the Organizational level, as well.

      New America

      An Idea Whose Time Is HERE!

    11. ANDREI YUSTSCHINSKY Says:

      Spic: Rodman, Not Grobama. Nigger: No, It’s Grobama!

      Date posted online: Wednesday, February 27, 2008

      NORRISTOWN, Pa. – Montgomery County authorities say a mestizo stabbed his negro brother-in-law during an argument over who should get the “Democratic” nomination for president.

      What’s more, Jose Ortiz, 28, who’s charged with felony assault, is a registered Republicunt.

      District Attorney Risa Ferman said the 5’1″ spic supports Hillary Rodman and the 7’3″ nigger supports Barry Grobama. She told reporters Monday that the two got into an argument in a Collegeville home Thursday night and Shurelds tried to choke Ortiz. She says Ortiz then stabbed Shurelds in his black belly.

      Shurelds was taken to a hospital in critical condition, but unfortunently is expected to recover.

      A service of the Associated Pricks(AP)

      Copyright © 2008 nwi.com

    12. Mary O Says:

      [quote]This is part and parcel of his work as a landlord, as well as his casual meetings with the crackhead niggers on the street. He discusses this on his Forum, at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nsmamerica/.
      [/quote]

      The site has some interesting posts, but I didn’t find anything relating to White’s specific activities. Could you post a link?

      BTW: Are his tenants White or Black? Do these confrontations occur in the course of collecting the rent? What do the Baltimore police officers think about White? Just wondering.

      [quote]We have people who have the Form of “Leadership,” but lack the Substance to actually fulfill Leadership Responsibilities. Self-proclaimed “Leaders” must be exposed as an example to the rest of us. The words “National Alliance” comes to mind.[/quote]

      White’s insults, rudeness and over-sensitivity help exactly how?

      The problem with the National Alliance JMO seems to have been its function as a White cultural organization as opposed to a real political party. Most of its former members are private citizens and “activists” rather than professional (paid) politicians; therefore, the public sniping is particulary unfair.

      Even the most well-intentioned activists (of course) make honest mistakes, but NA bitterness seems to linger way too long. Professional politicians would realize that the mud-slinging is counter-productive and reflects poorly on all advocates of the cause. And White doesn’t seem to get along even with NS-sympathizers.

      [quote]
      To his credit, White runs his ANSWP as a model of transparency.[/quote]

      Transparent, or invisible? No one seems to know what exactly ANSWP does.

    13. .338 Says:

      does vnn have a record label for soloists

    14. .338 Says:

      radio istina in roman numerals plz Alex thx

    15. New America Says:

      in reply to Mary O:

      you wrote, quoting my above post:

      This is part and parcel of his work as a landlord, as well as his casual meetings with the crackhead niggers on the street. He discusses this on his Forum, at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nsmamerica/.

      you replied:

      The site has some interesting posts, but I didn’t find anything relating to White’s specific activities. Could you post a link?

      in reply:
      Go to the site, and look down the left side, to the words: Most Recent Messages (View All) (Group by Topic)

      Try both – View All, and Group by Topic – to get an overview.

      I like his comments on the recent American Renaissance conference.

      you wrote:

      BTW: Are his tenants White or Black? Do these confrontations occur in the course of collecting the rent? What do the Baltimore police officers think about White? Just wondering.

      in reply:
      His tenants are White and Black, and these confrontations occur in the course of being White in Roanoke, as well as on the course of collecting the rent. He discusses this on the forum.

      you wrote, quoting my above post:

      We have people who have the Form of “Leadership,” but lack the Substance to actually fulfill Leadership Responsibilities. Self-proclaimed “Leaders” must be exposed as an example to the rest of us. The words “National Alliance” comes to mind.

      you replied:

      White’s insults, rudeness and over-sensitivity help exactly how?

      in reply:
      White’s insults are, all too often, based in the “Movement Reality” that most of us do not want to see.

      White criticizes with remarkable acuity; while I do not always agree with him, I always find his criticisms to be most enlightening.

      I suspect this is because White has taken it upon himself to do what all of us need to do more vigorously, and that is BE WHAT WE WANT THE WORLD TO BECOME.

      No one is going to solve our problems for us; Rockwell is dead, Pierce is dead, the NSM is full of truly deviant personalities, the National Alliance is a parody of what Pierce intended (and, to a substantial degree, we can blame Pierce for that) – you get the idea.

      White took a remarkable degree of personal responsibility for the well-being of the RACE upon himself. We should at least respect this, and try to do as well, in our personal lives.

      It’s not Bill White’s fault, that his detractors have failed where he has succeeded; quite the contrary, in fact.

      you wrote:

      The problem with the National Alliance JMO seems to have been its function as a White cultural organization as opposed to a real political party.

      in reply:
      The National Alliance is damn near a parody of what Pierce had intended it to be.

      Absent people like Jerry Abbott, and Kevin Alfred Strom, the National Alliance is a pale reflection of being even “a White cultural organization.” It is simply a bunch of remarkable inept fools. (If Dr. Bob DeMaris is still a member, then my apologies to him, alone.)

      As well, their ideal of “culture” seems to be a pathetic magazine called “Resistance,” which neither leads, informs, nor inspires. It simply wallows in the gutter of the worst the White Race has to offer.

      I suspect Pierce saw the death of Robert Mathews as the end of his dreams of actually effecting political change, and simply dedicated himself to doing radio broadcasts, and working slowly to simply hold together what he had created. All of the forward motion seems to have stopped at that time.

      you wrote:

      Most of its former members are private citizens and “activists” rather than professional (paid) politicians; therefore, the public sniping is particularly unfair.

      in reply:
      Most of its current members are failures in every realm of life – Work, Family, Community, you name it.

      Somehow, I missed the “Gliebe for Congress” campaign in this year’s election.

      And, unfortunately, Shawn Walker seems to be unable to run for political office, given his current residence.

      And, all of the “professional (paid) politicians” of my acquaintance BEGAN as private citizens, acting as political activists.

      However, the CLAIM to be acting on behalf of the RACE; public criticism seems particularly relevant as part and part of the public scrutiny any person making such claims deserves – IF he is asking for your money.

      you wrote:

      Even the most well-intentioned activists (of course) make honest mistakes, but NA bitterness seems to linger way too long. Professional politicians would realize that the mud-slinging is counter-productive and reflects poorly on all advocates of the cause. And White doesn’t seem to get along even with NS-sympathizers.

      in reply:
      “NA bitterness seems to linger on way too long…” because the Pierce-managed National Alliance was the starting point of the Awakening for many of us, and had the potential to be something much more than it became. That is the challenge that we now face – to fulfill the sense of Racial Duty, and Racial Destiny, that Pierce inspired in us.

      It will simply have to be done by us, for us, and THAT is the deeper lesson we can learn from the death of Dr. Pierce.

      you wrote, quoting me:

      To his credit, White runs his ANSWP as a model of transparency.

      you replied:

      Transparent, or invisible? No one seems to know what exactly ANSWP does.

      in reply:
      Read the forum I linked to.

      Bill White is just getting started, and for that we can all be grateful.

      You see, all of the current National Alliance membership types – “load up granpa’s old squirrel gun, take the ’63 Chevy Bel-Air off the blocks, and take America back” crowd – would have no idea whatsoever what to do with the country, if you gave them the country.

      Peter Shank addressed this issue in a most cogent question:

      “Suppose you awaken one morning, and all of your racial enemies have disappeared. All right. NOW WHAT?”

      Great question.

      Bill White’s answer ties into the development of a National Socialist social order, with examples of how the NS Model solves current social problems in all sectors of society, from the smallest local economy to the largest national concerns.

      Harold Covington has also addressed these issues in much more detail, in the framework of a White RACIAL Homeland, in his First Northwest Trilogy series of books, which are available for download on his site.

      I suspect Kevin Alfred Strom will also be speaking to these issues.

      Virtually all of the classical White Racialists saw only the obstacles, and few, indeed, saw the opportunities hidden in the obstacles.

      We shall have to follow the example of those who are building a Path for our Race to return To The Stars.

      While we can…

      New America

      An Idea Whose Time Is HERE!

    16. New America Says:

      Admin:

      I just sent a reply to Mary O, and a duplicate reply.

      Is the spam filter working overtime tonight?

      Thanks!

      New America

      An Idea Whose Time Is HERE!

    17. Mike Quigley Says:

      Still being somewhat of a new kid here,I’ve listened to Alex before,but didnt really,really listen. This time I did,and before I knew it,hours had gone by. I dont think I have ever been inspired like that before. I’m not trying to sound corny,I’m just being honest. I’m very impressed,and I plan on doing a lot more listening.

    18. Socrates Says:

      New America: there were two of your comments in the spam filter.

    19. New America Says:

      Socrates:

      thanks – when the first didn’t register, I reentered it.

      To make it easier on one and all, if you could delete the 27 February, 2008 at 10:10 pm, in reply to Mary O:, it would make a small part of the world a better place.

      thanks!

      New America

      An Idea Whose Time Is HERE!

    20. Mary O Says:

      New America: “I suspect this is because White has taken it upon himself to do what all of us need to do more vigorously, and that is BE WHAT WE WANT THE WORLD TO BECOME.”

      Do we really want the world to be a place in which people are attacking each other in public for no reason?

      If White has a problem with some of the attendees at the AmRen conference, why doesn’t he discuss the issues with them in private or via email/mail or phone?

      Which would you prefer: finding an insulting post about yourself on-line or someone writing you a civil email explaining why they don’t agree with your opinion? Which would be more persuasive?

      And, if he seriously believes that anyone is guilty of serious crimes, why doesn’t he report to the police instead of writing accusations on message boards?

      New America: “Bill White’s answer ties into the development of a National Socialist social order, with examples of how the NS Model solves current social problems in all sectors of society, from the smallest local economy to the largest national concerns.”

      Obviously, you think very highly of Bill White. Don’t you think that he would be more effective in communicating his message if he treated people more fairly?

    21. New America Says:

      in reply to Mary O:

      you wrote, quoting me:

      New America: “I suspect this is because White has taken it upon himself to do what all of us need to do more vigorously, and that is BE WHAT WE WANT THE WORLD TO BECOME.”

      you replied:

      Do we really want the world to be a place in which people are attacking each other in public for no reason?

      If White has a problem with some of the attendees at the AmRen conference, why doesn’t he discuss the issues with them in private or via email/mail or phone?

      Which would you prefer: finding an insulting post about yourself on-line or someone writing you a civil email explaining why they don’t agree with your opinion? Which would be more persuasive?

      And, if he seriously believes that anyone is guilty of serious crimes, why doesn’t he report to the police instead of writing accusations on message boards?

      in reply:
      Actually, there ARE reasons for Bill White, and all of us, to constructive criticize the most destructive elements of White Nationalism.

      It is actually something of an organizational duty, if you think about it.

      For instance, the Satan worship attributed to certain (hopefully, former) members of the NSM is legal. That tends to set the bar way too low for our children, and grandchildren yet unborn.

      I want BETTER.

      And, if they are believed to be guilty of serious crimes, one and all have a duty to notify the law enforcement community. The law enforcement community will (correctly) follow the guidelines required for the “due process of law.”

      And the damage will have been done, perhaps irredeemably, by the time the legal process winds its way to its lawful conclusions.

      The wonderful value of the Internet is that it allows members of the RACE to see for themselves, in real time, whether or not it the assertions are true, for themselves, with no System middlemen to slow down or disrupt the process.

      Note that Bill White’s focus is at the Institutional level, and not necessarily at the personal level.

      At the Institutional level, we can all see for ourselves, and respond appropriately.

      At the personal level, we might be dealing with people who can lie to us effectively.

      And, as for AmRen, they claim to be interested analysts of the Racial situation in America, particularly as it concerns the White RACE.

      Yet, when you try to intelligently discuss the control systems of the most effective Race on the planet – the damn JEWS – AmRen simply sends your post to the Zone of Lost Things.

      Thus, AmRen tacitly supports Judaism in action, and insures the ONLY Racial group the Jews live in respectful fear of – the White RACE – are forever chasing false flags down false paths, and blind alleys.

      To diplomatically deal with this though gracious correspondence is to give the vampires and parasites greater legitimacy than they deserve, which they will use to deligitimize you, and destroy your RACE, while they cut your throat, and laugh as you die cold, alone, and naked, in the gutter.

      Fuck that!

      you wrote, quoting me:

      New America: “Bill White’s answer ties into the development of a National Socialist social order, with examples of how the NS Model solves current social problems in all sectors of society, from the smallest local economy to the largest national concerns.”

      you replied:

      Obviously, you think very highly of Bill White. Don’t you think that he would be more effective in communicating his message if he treated people more fairly?

      in reply:
      “Fair” is something that comes to town once a year, and we all enjoy the cotton candy and the ferris wheel.

      The Children see a far different spectacle at the fair than the Adults.

      I believe there is a cosmic system of “fairness,” and it ties back to The RACIAL Golden Rule, which should be rephrased to “Do unto others as they deserve.”

      Simply stated, when you are rational with the irrational, you are wasting your time, and giving your RACIAL Enemies time to undermine your argument, your Self, and your RACE.

      Rather than try to turn THAT negative into a positive, it is far better to spend your time doing for your RACE what the demonic Jews do for THEIR Race, and that is bettering the situation of your RACE.

      Or, as the sergeant used to say at Roll Call:

      “All right! Let’s do it to THEM, before they do it to US!”

      New America

      An Idea Whose Time Is HERE!

    22. New America Says:

      Socrates:

      Again, my latest response – of about an hour ago – seems to be trapped in the spam filter.

      Thanks!

      New America

      An Idea Whose Time Is HERE!

    23. New America Says:

      Socrates:

      just sent a copy – it, too, seems to be trapped in the spam filter.

      Thanks!

      New America

      An Idea Whose Time Is HERE!

    24. Mary O Says:

      New America: “Actually, there ARE reasons for Bill White, and all of us, to constructive criticize the most destructive elements of White Nationalism … Note that Bill White’s focus is at the Institutional level, and not necessarily at the personal level.”

      Bill White re AmRen meeting: “… what a farce Taylor ‘erudite’ meeting is. Many — not all, but many — of those who attended were just turds wrapped in shiny paper — they may look “good”, but inside, they’re still turds … a bunch of turds sitting around trying not to stink. Taylor disagrees, but he’s wrong, and fuck him for thinking otherwise. The other thing that really caught me about the Stormfronters and the VDARE types was the absolute cowardice of these keyboard commandos …”

      Pierce called his organization the “National Alliance.” Pierce (my guess) was thinking that he need to “ally” various wholly different factions across an extremely splintered right. Maybe the bitterness ultimately comes down to the ideological (and cultural) differences between the nationalist conservatives and the NS.

      Often from rural areas or small towns, nationalist conservatives abhor big government, until recently believed that WW2 was justified, and generally tend to be more successful and (in spite of PC) respected.

      OTOH the NS have been smeared, disrespected; generally, from more urban blue-collar backgrounds, they are more intellectual and European in their perspective. Having suffered a great deal for the cause perhaps they overreact against any gesture towards a compromise with the mainstream political parties; i.e. they don’t want to become “Nationalist-lite.”

      However, we need to focus on the racial aspect more: the relative benefit of socialism vs. conservatism is trivial compared to the benefit of being able to associate freely in a White society.

      Criticism is fine; my only objection is to how and where.

      The biggest challenge to WN is people not getting along.

    25. New America Says:

      in reply to Mary O:

      Thank you for your thoughtful and considered reply.

      Let me take the liberty to summarize your key points.

      1. White’s criticism of AmRen

      White’s anger at the AmRen meeting seems to be based on the simple facts that (1) AmRen has not accomplished anything of substance for our RACE, particularly in the greater context of our battle with Jews as the tools through which the demonic process of Judaism takes place.

      In short, just as Ron Paul denied the importance of an explicitly Racial appeal in his campaign, to the subsequent crippling of the campaign, so, too, does AmRen look at all of our Racial Enemies, EXCEPT THE MOST EFFECTIVE RACIAL ENEMY OF ALL, AND THE PRACTICES THAT LEAD TO THEIR REMARKABLE EFFECTIVENESS.

      In short, like all of the other false flags, AmRen keeps us looking everywhere but at the main enemy; like the Conservatards, we fight the false flag presented to us, while our real RACIAL Enemy scores point after point, undermining the very foundations of our society.

      2. Pierce’s National Alliance versus the Nationalist Conservatives

      Nationalist Conservatives have accomplished exactly NOTHING for the last fifty years, and this state of affairs is not likely to change.

      They have been like puppies chasing their tails, and their RACIAL Enemy has gladly supplied them with one false flag enemy after another – the Communists, the Soviet Union, the Marxists on campus, the Civil Rights Movement – all safe, and all guaranteed to make the Nationalist Conservatives feel like they are fighting The Good Fight.

      The National Alliance is a Pierce organization in name only; to his credit, Pierce wanted it to be a Vanguard, an Elite, that could carry the RACIAL Battle forward on all fronts in the community. Now, it seems to be little more than a pathetic facade, no more capable or organizing anything more sophisticated than a beer and barbeque party.

      3. The Failure of the National Socialists in America

      The National Socialist critique of Nationalist Conservatives is that, as Pierce (and Kevin Alfred Strom) have noted, (1) we are not “Conservatives,” and (2) there is precious little worth “conserving” in the status quo’s approach to social issues.

      In short, the Nationalist Conservatives have not accomplished anything of substance either as Nationalists, or as Conservatives, using both of these terms as generously as possible.

      That having been said, only Volkish nations – WHITE European nations – with near total ethnic homogeneity – can make National Socialism work.

      Whether you consider the incredible transformation of NS Germany from 1933 to 1939, or the remarkable Scandinavian governments of today, only the powers of the Creative RACE, the White RACE, can make a socialist state perform, and outperform, all other social orders, by magnitudes.

      That’s why I have my nephews read to me from Covington’s “A Distant Thunder,” on a daily basis, from pages 138 to 150, where Covington defines the basic economic principles of the System that subjugates us, and the System that only our RACE can create, which will carry our Posterity, well, “To The Stars.”

      If Ron Paul had possessed the integrity to support a platform that was explicitly White Nationalist – just by continually emphasizing our Constitutionally guaranteed right of freedom of association, he would have experienced the sort of support Obama is currently receiving.

      Note, incidentally, that so many Republicans have been betrayed by the policies and practices of the Republican Party over the last twenty years – longer, actually – that THEY are voting for Obama…

      These would have been perfect as converts to Paul’s campaign, which could have been to a future White Nationalist party what the Goldwater Revolution was to the Reagan Triumph.

      The Nationalist Conservatives want to return to an America that never really was, some sort of pre-Fourteenth Amendment America, from what I can tell.

      My nephews deserve better than the materialistic Hell our RACIAL Enemies, the goddamn Jews, have in store for us.

      I won’t offer them the discarded and failed dreams of a yesterday that never was.

      If you want to see TRUE Conservatives, look to the glue factory. The finest social extrapolations of the horse and buggy era could not have predicted the world the affordable internal combustion engine, and the resulting industrial economy, have made possible.

      If you want to see TRUE Revolutionaries, look to Thomas Edison, and Henry Ford.

      I want the sons of my nephews to walk on the Moon, and their children to establish our Mars Colony.

      I want to offer them, and their Posterity, “Honor, Discipline, and the Stars.”

      That will require an explicitly RACE-based social order, a White Homeland, and a National Socialist economic and social system.

      Fine.

      Let’s get started!

      New America

      An Idea Whose Time Is HERE!

    26. New America Says:

      Socrates:

      Again, my last message got trapped in the spam filter.

      Thanks!

      New America

      An Idea Whose Time Is HERE!

    27. New America Says:

      note to Socrates:

      You might want to check the spam filter, and see if it has been set to trap replies with the last name of KAS, whose name is an anagram for “storm.”

      I think that might be the problem.

      All of the other posts seem to pretty much fly right through!

      Thanks!

      New America

      An Idea Whose Time Is HERE!

    28. Mary O Says:

      New America: “To diplomatically deal with this though gracious correspondence is to give the vampires and parasites greater legitimacy than they deserve, which they will use to deligitimize you, and destroy your RACE, while they cut your throat, and laugh as you die cold, alone, and naked, in the gutter.”

      But the WN activists who attend events like AmRen aren’t vampires and parasites. They are on our side. And sometimes events sponsored by other groups are worthwhile; for example, antiwar demonstrations, 9-11 Truth events, local community meetings …

      The problem isn’t limited to just AmRen or Bill White; we see too many personal attacks on WN boards.

      The NS is politically sophisticated in that they realize that we need a real organization, with hierarchy, protocol, regular meetings, elections and funding.

      Well-run organizations can effect change; we need such organization; ZOG understands this fact well. Communist organizations have their symbols, dress codes and coded fashions, the Che emblems, the hammer & sickle, and so many artists and musicians to help sell their message.

      Also, generally speaking, leftists never publicly attack anyone else on the Left, even those with whom they strongly disagree. Maybe we could learn something from this approach: focus on whatever useful contributions other WN’s bring to our cause; criticize in a balanced and constructive way; keep personal issues private.

      For example, some WN posters will ridicule NS rallies, and complain about swastikas or 88’s or NS uniforms. Instead they should try to understand why some groups take different approachs.

      The key is to get everyone to work together.

      Thank you very much for all of your replies. Mary O

    29. New America Says:

      in reply to Mary O:

      you wrote, quoting me:

      New America: “To diplomatically deal with this though gracious correspondence is to give the vampires and parasites greater legitimacy than they deserve, which they will use to deligitimize you, and destroy your RACE, while they cut your throat, and laugh as you die cold, alone, and naked, in the gutter.”

      you replied:

      But the WN activists who attend events like AmRen aren’t vampires and parasites. They are on our side. And sometimes events sponsored by other groups are worthwhile; for example, antiwar demonstrations, 9-11 Truth events, local community meetings …

      in reply:
      The 911 “Truth” Movement refuses to see Israel, and the Jewish RACE, as having anything whatsoever to do with 911; they, like so many organizations, are simple “false flags” that keep us looking at every group but the RACE that controls virtually everything.

      They are like the pre-Copernican astronomers; they have elaborate theories that work, up to a point, with so many exceptions that they work in SPITE OF their theory, instead of BECAUSE their theories are accurate.

      The Copernican Revolution required one simply change in Mind-Set. After that, the model, mathematics and all, worked perfectly.

      We are engaged in the functional equivalent of the Copernican Revolution; we, alone, have the explanation that explains what all other explanations reflect, but fail to address.

      AmRen refuses to even allow you to discuss Judaism as a RACIAL STRATEGY. Imagine that. The perfect example of success positive Racism can not be even mentioned on AmRen.

      Why do you suppose that is?

      We have always opened our doors to them; they refuse to open their doors to us, as the late Dr. San Francis observed, from his own painfully gained personal experience.

      you wrote:

      The problem isn’t limited to just AmRen or Bill White; we see too many personal attacks on WN boards.

      in reply:
      Most of these personal attacks are from people who have not accomplished anything of substance, in any realm of Life whatsoever.

      Further, they refuse to see issues in the Analytical Framework of, well, issues; they see things as simple personal interactions, like children defining the world in terms they can understand – people, not processes.

      In other words, they see the world in terms of magic, and they blame the Adult figures for having the magic they wish they had.

      Hence, the animosity Bill White inspires…

      you wrote:

      The NS is politically sophisticated in that they realize that we need a real organization, with hierarchy, protocol, regular meetings, elections and funding.

      in reply:
      Why, yes.

      Yes, we do.

      How about getting these people to send twenty bucks a month – minimally, consistently – to Alex Linder, whose address is at the top and bottom of this page?

      So, until they can accomplish even that, are they remotely SERIOUS about actually accomplishing something for their RACE, or are they using the excuse du jour to rationalize their failure to simply BE WHAT THEY WANT THE WORLD TO BECOME?

      You know the answer.

      you wrote:

      Well-run organizations can effect change; we need such organization; ZOG understands this fact well. Communist organizations have their symbols, dress codes and coded fashions, the Che emblems, the hammer & sickle, and so many artists and musicians to help sell their message.

      in reply:
      I could not agree more.

      I have long favored our adopting the basic uniforms of the Scandinavian White Nationalists for our public meetings, at a bare minimum.

      Clean, well-cut, professional attire says so much about us, and the inability to demonstrate the use of this tool also says so much about us.

      This IS a critically important issue.

      We really need to work on the entire issue of signage, as well.

      I have some ideas about this…

      you wrote:

      Also, generally speaking, leftists never publicly attack anyone else on the Left, even those with whom they strongly disagree. Maybe we could learn something from this approach: focus on whatever useful contributions other WN’s bring to our cause; criticize in a balanced and constructive way; keep personal issues private.

      in reply:
      The reason the Left is so organized is because it is centrally organized; it is simply a series of front organizations for the goddamn JEWS, and everyone either sticks to the script, or they are removed.

      Andrea Dworkin offered a great example of this.

      She could criticize men and marriage all day long, and remain funded, and be offered all manner of first rate speaking opportunities.

      She then attacked pornography, and her public appearances went to damn near zero, as did her funding.

      Guess what RACIAL group controls the pornography industry?

      So, the unity you see IS based on a greater Unity, and that is the RACIAL Unity of the goddamned hook-nosed demons known as Jews who are controlling the show behind the scenes.

      you wrote:

      For example, some WN posters will ridicule NS rallies, and complain about swastikas or 88’s or NS uniforms. Instead they should try to understand why some groups take different approaches.

      in reply:
      Yet, as Bill White noted, the nonverbal message of the brownshirt/red swastika armband combination, in a crisp, clean uniform, has people walking up to them spontaneously and thanking them for their efforts, as they hand out flyers in blue-collar, White neighborhoods.

      And, I tell all of Bill White’s critics this:

      Don’t just criticize the man. DO BETTER, and prove you are right by your actions.

      I note that most of Bill White’s critics are the same people who praise Linder’s efforts with VNN, and simply can not find it in themselves to send twenty dollars a month to support VNN.

      And, I do not care what losers say, or think.

      Incidentally, when Linder was arrested in Knoxville, White offered to drop everything, cancel his vacation, and take cash money directly to Knoxville to bail Linder out.

      How many of White’s critics would do that, if they had the money?

      THAT is the kind of “working together” we need.

      you wrote:

      The key is to get everyone to work together.

      in reply:
      See above.

      Bill White, Alex Linder, and the late Dr. Sam Francis all seem to be little more than backdoor White trash, in the eyes of the AmRen people.

      Fine.

      Let’s get the truth out there, and deal with it.

      you wrote:

      Thank you very much for all of your replies. Mary O

      in reply:
      This is actually part of a topic I have addressed at length, in bits and pieces, on VNN.

      It needs a lot more discussion, to have any degree of organizational clarity come forth.

      It also needs a lot more money to go to VNN, and if they can not afford twenty dollars a month, then they have problems that must be resolved, first, before they can do ANYTHING for the RACE, other than bitch and moan, enviously, at the efforts of Bill White.

      After all, if the Jews support AmRen, and we don’t support VNN, we will get what we deserve…

      One way, or another.

      New America

      An Idea Whose Time Is HERE!

    30. New America Says:

      in reply to Mary O – again..

      I really think most of us have been working this issue – working with other groups to achieve political ends – damn near in reverse.

      We know we will never be accepted by the Mainstream Organizations, no matter what we do, no matter how we act. The example of the late, remarkably unlamented Dr. Sam Francis demonstrated this.

      Pierce, to his enormous credit, recognized the need to form a Vanguard, and have them lead the way, in large part by their examples.

      In short, to paraphrase Pierce, and Kevin Alfred Strom, “WE should not want to join THEM. THEY should want to join US!”

      The burden of excellence is upon us to be such a Vanguard, for our selves, our Family, and our RACE: the Family, as the microcosm of RACE, the RACE, as the macrocosm of Family, and RACE as the Living Bridge between Family and Culture.

      I think a century’s worth of social changes will take place in the next decade, and this assumes China does not take a dramatic lead in genetic engineering, and strong artificial intelligence does not develop.

      A century’s worth, in a decade.

      One of Hitler’s admirers noted he tried to do a thousand years worth of development in a decade. The spirit of the German people were, to a remarkable degree, up to this.

      I don’t think most of us are.

      I do think the best of us are, and that’s why we must focus on BEING WHAT WE WANT THE WORLD TO BECOME.

      Like Bill White is doing!

      New America

      An Idea Whose Time Is HERE!