Well I still don't buy the theory but if it has been decided that we should push it as the truth because it benefits our position then someone PM me and let me know so I can get on board.

Then who did fly the jumbo jets into the WTC? Who else would have the motivation for a suicide mission?

There are countless theories on what happened. The former German Defense Minister Andreas von Bulow, said 911 cannot have been organised without co-operation from inside the US and unless a 'foreign secret service' was involved.

Most of 'us' believe him and believe that Israel's Mossad was involved.

As for who actually flew the planes, I'm one of many, many people who have studied 911 for years and I think the most plausible explanation is the two Aircraft which hit the WTC were substituted with Boeing 737's and were remotely piloted into the buildings.

Before you think that I'm one of those who believes Elvis was kidnapped by space aliens, remember right after 911, American Airline Pilots held a meeting in Portugal. They concluded the same thing. There was NO WAY untrained Arabs could have managed the aerobatics involved in 911.

Further there are numerous web sites which show a photo of the Jet Engine lying on a New York street. Boeing people have identified that engine as one from a 737 not a 757 whose engines are as large as a 5 Ton truck.

That alone will do me. The Pilots are mostly US Military Trained and if a Boeing Technician (several actually) identify the engine it sure is more believable than the 19 invisible Kamikaze Arabs and Osama in a bed-sheet Bin Laden in-a-cave-in-Afghanistan-bullshit.

I believe that 911 was prompted initially by the financial disaster that the building complex was. Faulty, asbetos riddled buildings, which belonged to the Port Authority who in 1989 commissioned a firm of Architects to do an estimate of demolition and reconstruction costs.

These consultants told the PA that the building were riddled with 'Galvanic Corrosion' and would need demolition within 10 to 12 years. The costs would be $5.6 Billion, in 1989.

Back in the 1980's New York was nearly BROKE, so a cunning plan was hatched.

All of the four Aircraft allegedly hijacked on 911 left Airports over which an ISRAELI Firm had control of Airport Security. How easy would it have been for these low bastards to Mickey Mouse and substitute the regular Pilots with their own?

You then wouldn't NEED hijackers, the Israeli Pilots would simply change course as the SUBSTITUTE Boeing 737 came into their airspace. Transponders are switched off and remember Cheney (who is really a Lizard) WAS conducting a 'drill' that morning of a sneak attack on American Buildings using hijacked Aircraft.

Was that a co-incidence?

North East America is littered with rarely used old Military Airfields, the 911 killers may have flown the two WTC Aircraft (Possibly ALL FOUR) to such a place where the passengers were told there was a 'national emergency' and even may have watched events on TV until they were disposed of themselves.

Remember the curiously low number of passengers on each plane, each was 20% filled, so you could place ALL the Passengers on ONE Aircraft]www.whatreallyhappened.com[/url]

There are countless theories on what happened. The former German Defense Minister Andreas von Bulow, said 911 cannot have been organised without co-operation from inside the US and unless a 'foreign secret service' was involved.

Most of 'us' believe him and believe that Israel's Mossad was involved.

As for who actually flew the planes, I'm one of many, many people who have studied 911 for years and I think the most plausible explanation is the two Aircraft which hit the WTC were substituted with Boeing 737's and were remotely piloted into the buildings.

Before you think that I'm one of those who believes Elvis was kidnapped by space aliens, remember right after 911, American Airline Pilots held a meeting in Portugal. They concluded the same thing. There was NO WAY untrained Arabs could have managed the aerobatics involved in 911.

Further there are numerous web sites which show a photo of the Jet Engine lying on a New York street. Boeing people have identified that engine as one from a 737 not a 757 whose engines are as large as a 5 Ton truck.

That alone will do me. The Pilots are mostly US Military Trained and if a Boeing Technician (several actually) identify the engine it sure is more believable than the 19 invisible Kamikaze Arabs and Osama in a bed-sheet Bin Laden in-a-cave-in-Afghanistan-bullshit.

I believe that 911 was prompted initially by the financial disaster that the building complex was. Faulty, asbetos riddled buildings, which belonged to the Port Authority who in 1989 commissioned a firm of Architects to do an estimate of demolition and reconstruction costs.

These consultants told the PA that the building were riddled with 'Galvanic Corrosion' and would need demolition within 10 to 12 years. The costs would be $5.6 Billion, in 1989.

Back in the 1980's New York was nearly BROKE, so a cunning plan was hatched.

All of the four Aircraft allegedly hijacked on 911 left Airports over which an ISRAELI Firm had control of Airport Security. How easy would it have been for these low bastards to Mickey Mouse and substitute the regular Pilots with their own?

You then wouldn't NEED hijackers, the Israeli Pilots would simply change course as the SUBSTITUTE Boeing 737 came into their airspace. Transponders are switched off and remember Cheney (who is really a Lizard) WAS conducting a 'drill' that morning of a sneak attack on American Buildings using hijacked Aircraft.

Was that a co-incidence?

North East America is littered with rarely used old Military Airfields, the 911 killers may have flown the two WTC Aircraft (Possibly ALL FOUR) to such a place where the passengers were told there was a 'national emergency' and even may have watched events on TV until they were disposed of themselves.

Remember the curiously low number of passengers on each plane, each was 20% filled, so you could place ALL the Passengers on ONE Aircraft]www.whatreallyhappened.com[/url]

The level of your imbecility is truly astounding. Your picture should be placed in the dictionary under the word "idiot" for illustrative purposes.

The City of New York came close to insolvency during the 1970s, not the 1980s, moron.

The City of New York did not own the WTC complex, nor was it responsible for maintenance or repair of said complex. The WTC complex was owned by the Port Authority of New York & New Jersey, an independent public agency. The PA owns and operates Kennedy Airport, LaGuardia Airport, Newark Airport, all the shipping ports in the NYC area, and all of the bridges and tunnels connecting New York and New Jersey. The PA does not get any of its funds from the municipal budget of NYC. NYC has no control over the PA, that control is located in Albany and Trenton.

You are a fucking retard.

Uhm, Right. ZOG wants to throw millions of people out of there houses. Just what is ZOG going to do with all those empty houses?

give them to the Mexicans. duh!

The level of your imbecility is truly astounding. You are a fucking retard.

Such language! How intemperate! Tsk tsk, wash that foul mouth out with soap. Are you really an Accountant? I suppose because you 'were there' watching, you can claim to be an expert. Never mind the countless hundreds who were even more 'there' than you. Standing almost underneath, hearing explosions, one Fireman's Helmet blown off from an explosion BELOW. How do you explain that? Geniuses like JP and HD. Nothing better to with your time that sit up nights spewing insults and obscenities at anyone whose opinions differ from yours?

What is an 'independent public agency'? Did the Port Authority have a spare $5.6 Billion to demolish the WTC back in 1989? Know ANYONE with a spare $5.6 Billion?

How do you explain the mysterious collapse of WTC7, was it done with Ray Guns?

Never mind answering, you're incapable of it and that's not your purpose anyway. Like I've said before, you JP and HD polluted the last 911 thread by posting approx 400 of the 500 posts. That made reading the thread difficult not to mention unpleasant for any newcomers who would (perhaps) be distressed by the foul language and invective used.

I was responsible for calling you the three stooges, shortly afterwards you posted Larry, Curly and Mo's picture.

Three guys (I assume, but you might be a girl) what compells them to write 400 posts on to a 500 post thread screeching abuse at the others? 400 out of 500 is 80%!

What makes you three boofheads put insults into 8 in every 10 posts on a 911 skeptics thread?

Are you sure you're an accountant?

Really?

Such language! How intemperate! Tsk tsk, wash that foul mouth out with soap. Are you really an Accountant? I suppose because you 'were there' watching, you can claim to be an expert. Never mind the countless hundreds who were even more 'there' than you. Standing almost underneath, hearing explosions, one Fireman's Helmet blown off from an explosion BELOW. How do you explain that? Geniuses like JP and HD. Nothing better to with your time that sit up nights spewing insults and obscenities at anyone whose opinions differ from yours?

What is an 'independent public agency'? Did the Port Authority have a spare $5.6 Billion to demolish the WTC back in 1989? Know ANYONE with a spare $5.6 Billion?

How do you explain the mysterious collapse of WTC7, was it done with Ray Guns?

Never mind answering, you're incapable of it and that's not your purpose anyway. Like I've said before, you JP and HD polluted the last 911 thread by posting approx 400 of the 500 posts. That made reading the thread difficult not to mention unpleasant for any newcomers who would (perhaps) be distressed by the foul language and invective used.

I was responsible for calling you the three stooges, shortly afterwards you posted Larry, Curly and Mo's picture.

Three guys (I assume, but you might be a girl) what compells them to write 400 posts on to a 500 post thread screeching abuse at the others? 400 out of 500 is 80%!

What makes you three boofheads put insults into 8 in every 10 posts on a 911 skeptics thread?

Are you sure you're an accountant?

Really?

Have a look at the above folks, see for yourselves the "logic" of an insane man.

These are some of the "theories" that the WTC cranks have proposed, usually in the same thread.

1) Jew Silverstein blew up the buildings for the insurance money.

2) The Buildings were constructed with exploding rebar.

3) Sharon attacked the buildings with remote control airplanes.

4) Mossad demo crews blew up the buildings with laser detonators from a park in Jersey City.

5) Explosives were placed beneath the bed rock the buildings were anchored to.

6) The Port Authority blew up the buildings so it could avoid painting and replacing the carpets.

I bet the meeting between the governors of NY & NJ went something like this.

Don Corleone.....erh, I mean Governor New York, this fucking WTC complex is costing us big money, we need to do something about it now.

Don Tataglia.....erh, I mean Governor New Jersey, I know what you mean, that place is a big pain in the ass. Listen, I got this jew named Silverstein. He's gonna do the job for us. He'll make it look like terrorism, when it's really jewish lightning, and we all gonna get rich off insurance money.

Don Corleone, won't people get suspicious?

Don Tataglia, don't worry, the jew says he's gonna make it look like some sand-niggers did it.

Don Corleone, you are a genius. Here, let me kiss your pinkie ring.

Don Tataglia, you can kiss my pinkie ring, but I don't go for any of that brokeback stuff.

My take on the 2nd WTC plane to add to the cacophony:

I know more than a little about planes and I think others with comparable background might come to the same conclusions I have. I saw it happen in real time and also many replays. These comments are about the aircraft's flight path and what it tells me and and not about the impact itself and what follows.

The a/c is still in a turn at impact and also appears to be pulling a bunch of G's, maybe three or more positive. An expert driving a plane into a target would have everything sorted out well before impact, but this plane approached in an arc and is still in a max flightpath correction mode right up to impact. What this means to me is this: Rooky. Not an experienced pilot. So, the explanation of a low time pilot or flightsim whiz at the controls is consistent with what I saw. This reinforces the standard story.

Another story is that some kind of "autopilot" may have commandeered the a/c. In this case, what kind of navigation was used ? GPS alone is not quite good enough for a task like this. So, hand it off in the final mile or two to a ground based observer to eyeball it into the target? Easier said than done. And, the observed fightpath would have made that quite difficult. Again, the best plan would have the a/c released to the "final controller" straight and level, aimed at the target and in line up above the controller. Significant and late path correction might be expected though. I don't give this theory much weight.

However, if the building had a beacon and the a/c had some sort of corresponding equipment THEN the flightpath would be expected to be about what me and everyone else saw. But, this sort of thing would take a lot of doing, a lot of cooperation of many entities, extensive access to the a/c for equipment install, etc. The beacon in the building part would be easy, though. Still a big stretch for me for many reasons. Occams razor, you know.

If you haven't noticed, displacement of white men is a big part of the agenda (surely this is obvious in CA, no?). Bankruptcies and depressions, even mass executions, are always enjoyable for the Jew. Nation destroyers, they're.

An extremely important point to bear in mind generally where 911 is concerned: Who allowed or pulled off 911 is at war with us too. 911 increased their power spectacularly.

Thanks to the attack on the WTC and Pentagon, by persons that remain unknown, the US Government has enjoyed both an expansion of powers undreamed of and an absolution from scrutiny unprecidented in an allegedly democratic nation.

Notice the fallout of 911 on other threads in the forum. Paying a credit card off in a lump sum? Boom! DHS on your ass. There'll be lots more erosion of what we used to call our "individual liberties" because of this and it might include things like posting on dissident forums.

If the official story of 911 unravels, Bush's anti-White, pro-Israel regime will be exposed as fraudulent and treasonous. That makes it a watershed window of opportunity for the real dissidents, us.

An extremely important point to bear in mind generally where 911 is concerned: Who allowed or pulled off 911 is at war with us too. 911 increased their power spectacularly.

Thanks to the attack on the WTC and Pentagon, by persons that remain unknown, the US Government has enjoyed both an expansion of powers undreamed of and an absolution from scrutiny unprecidented in an allegedly democratic nation.

Notice the fallout of 911 on other threads in the forum. Paying a credit card off in a lump sum? Boom! DHS on your ass. There'll be lots more erosion of what we used to call our "individual liberties" because of this and it might include things like posting on dissident forums.

If the official story of 911 unravels, Bush's anti-White, pro-Israel regime will be exposed as fraudulent and treasonous. That makes it a watershed window of opportunity for the real dissidents, us.

Yes, our voices are being silenced in numerous ways.
Which is why it is important in this world of today to leave the hate rhetoric and threats of violence behind.
And to make sure that when we expose a thing, it is the undisputable truth.

Originally Posted by Bernie
There are countless theories on what happened. The former German Defense Minister Andreas von Bulow, said 911 cannot have been organised without co-operation from inside the US and unless a 'foreign secret service' was involved.

Most of 'us' believe him and believe that Israel's Mossad was involved.

As for who actually flew the planes, I'm one of many, many people who have studied 911 for years and I think the most plausible explanation is the two Aircraft which hit the WTC were substituted with Boeing 737's and were remotely piloted into the buildings.

Before you think that I'm one of those who believes Elvis was kidnapped by space aliens, remember right after 911, American Airline Pilots held a meeting in Portugal. They concluded the same thing. There was NO WAY untrained Arabs could have managed the aerobatics involved in 911.

Further there are numerous web sites which show a photo of the Jet Engine lying on a New York street. Boeing people have identified that engine as one from a 737 not a 757 whose engines are as large as a 5 Ton truck.

That alone will do me. The Pilots are mostly US Military Trained and if a Boeing Technician (several actually) identify the engine it sure is more believable than the 19 invisible Kamikaze Arabs and Osama in a bed-sheet Bin Laden in-a-cave-in-Afghanistan-bullshit.

I believe that 911 was prompted initially by the financial disaster that the building complex was. Faulty, asbetos riddled buildings, which belonged to the Port Authority who in 1989 commissioned a firm of Architects to do an estimate of demolition and reconstruction costs.

These consultants told the PA that the building were riddled with 'Galvanic Corrosion' and would need demolition within 10 to 12 years. The costs would be $5.6 Billion, in 1989.

Back in the 1980's New York was nearly BROKE, so a cunning plan was hatched.

All of the four Aircraft allegedly hijacked on 911 left Airports over which an ISRAELI Firm had control of Airport Security. How easy would it have been for these low bastards to Mickey Mouse and substitute the regular Pilots with their own?

You then wouldn't NEED hijackers, the Israeli Pilots would simply change course as the SUBSTITUTE Boeing 737 came into their airspace. Transponders are switched off and remember Cheney (who is really a Lizard) WAS conducting a 'drill' that morning of a sneak attack on American Buildings using hijacked Aircraft.

Was that a co-incidence?

North East America is littered with rarely used old Military Airfields, the 911 killers may have flown the two WTC Aircraft (Possibly ALL FOUR) to such a place where the passengers were told there was a 'national emergency' and even may have watched events on TV until they were disposed of themselves.

Remember the curiously low number of passengers on each plane, each was 20% filled, so you could place ALL the Passengers on ONE Aircraft; fly it over the Atlantic.

Or over Shanksville, PA.

If you're interested in 911, one of the most honest men alive in the US is Mike Rivero who runs http://www.whatreallyhappened.com

Note how kikesucker Fissile doesn't discuss the post, just calls everyone who doesn't agree with the kikenlies an "imbecile". I suppose it's proof he isn't Slowjewski, because Slowjewski would use the term "fucktard".

Who allowed or pulled off 911 is at war with us

Exactly. At 911, international jewry and its US puppets officially declared war on us all.

How do you explain the mysterious collapse of WTC7, was it done with Ray Guns?

http://www.wtc7.net/

The official explanation that fires caused the collapse of Building 7 is incredible in light of the fact that fires have never caused a steel-framed building to totally collapse, before or after September 11th, 2001.

Steel-framed highrises (buildings of fifteen stories or more) have been widespread for over 100 years. There have been hundreds of incidents involving severe fires in such buildings, and none have led to complete collapse, or even partial collapse of support columns.

Alex is right: no rational man can doubt that these buildings were destroyed by controlled demolitions. It is not "paranoid schizophrenia" to make a methodical analysis of the manner in which these structures collapsed, independent of any speculation as to the identity and motive of those who may have been involved.

Examining the discrepancies between ostensible (i.e.,"official") causes and observable effects does not make one a "conspiracy theorist". It is the act of a rational mind.

I think the "9/11 Truth Movement" is about to get big, fast. More people are finding out the truth.

Imagine what that could do for White Nationalism when huge numbers of Americans learn about the Neocon/Israeli hand in murdering our citizens...

I think the "9/11 Truth Movement" is about to get big, fast. More people are finding out the truth.

Imagine what that could do for White Nationalism when huge numbers of Americans learn about the Neocon/Israeli hand in murdering our citizens...

It may be about to explode. In the last 24 hours, two loyal Republicans have, independent of each other, told me that they had just seen a film and "Did you know,'9-11 was an inside job.' "

Unfortunately, I was too busy to follow up with these two guys, but at the next opportunity, I shall find out what film they were talking about. These two fellows are both, "I love George Bush, we gotta kill all the ragheads, because they attacked us" Republicans. They don't know each other, and they both brought the subject up to me within the last day.

This is the first time anything like this has happened--wish I hadn't been so busy with other people. A very optimistic sign.

Enkidu

Alex ought to put a link to some of these videos on the VNN main page.

Also, an article discussing flaws in the "official story" in the next TAA could have potential.

No rational man can doubt that the WTC buildings were blown up after watching this video. It's about an hour.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psP_9RE0V2I&eurl=

The jews' immortally standing dominoes.

Let's take Pearl Harbor. Pearl Harbor, the "day that will live in infamy" all right, took place on December 7, 1941, and launched a heretofore unwilling America into all out war against GERMANY (which was the point, not so much Japan -- as we easily see by the kid gloves with which Japan was handled after their defeat [admittedly more or less ignoring the relatively limited, but vastly more hyped, holocaust committed against Japan of Hiroshima and Nagasaki] and the utter HOLOCAUST of death, destruction, and enslavement, that the jews perpetrated against Germany after their defeat -- and are STILL perpetrating).

Only now, SIXTY YEARS or so later, after all the participants ARE DEAD, does it become widely known and completely established that Pearl Harbor was a False Flag operation by the U.S. government against America. What is less known, even now, is that it was a jew operation. But that is slowly slowly becoming known also -- in line with what I am about to say.

9-11

Something VERY DIFFERENT is happening here. THIS TIME, the truth is getting out -- because of the internet -- only FIVE YEARS AFTER THE JEW CRIME. The participants -- the U.S. government and the jews who run it -- ARE NOT YET DEAD AND BURIED.

What are the implications of this huge difference. Here are some conjectural possibilities. I don't know what the odds are of these coming to pass. Perhaps very slim. But the possibility of their doing so seems to me real and viable, if small.

1) I think there is a definite possibility that these anti-White anti-American traitors will be tried and electrocuted within our lifetimes.

2) There is a definite possibility -- if freedom of speech on the internet can be kept alive long enough -- that the jew role in this crime will be outed -- that this one jew domino will fall. (Bush is probably a jew himself -- it wouldn't at all surprise me.)

3) And, if this jew domino falls, there is a distinct possibility that it will start a chain domino reaction against all the other jew dominoes now still standing. And, in short, the jew jig will be up -- will be widely known by the general, lemming public.

What then?

Scenario One: Full bore anti-white police state.

Scenario Two: White Revolution by a small Spartan White minority -- and the White lemmings siding with the kwa government and the non-whites and brutally obliterating the White Revolutionaries, leading to a speed-up in the on-going genocide of the White Race.

Scenario Three: White Revolution by a small Spartan White minority -- and succeeding eventually in awakening the potential White racial loyalty of the White lemming masses -- leading to freedom from White enslavement and to true White Nations, perhaps a huge, unified White World Confederacy.