Lux, "Securing the Realm", Project for a new american Century's

Strategy Forces and Resources for a New Century states that a absent a "New Pearl Harbor" their stated goals would take generations to accomplish.

Odigo warnings on 911

Dancing Israelis in New Jersey

Not british aristocracy brother.

No nazi would flood white america with mexiSHIT, asshole prince charles is sucking muslims wang, etc.

I have outlined somewhere else my somewhat mystically based belief that the WTC were taken out by the same forces in British Aristocracy that supported Hitler in WWII, of which the Bush famiily are loyal servants/agents.

Of course it is required of all such agents fighting jewish power to rise to prominence by publically kissing kosher ass and continue to do so to avoid impeachment.

Here is the fatal flaw in your thinking: You claim that 9/11, with all it's wideranging supporting coverups, was orchestrated by anti-jews, yet these same people who have all that power supposedly need to be afraid of the jews?
Frankly that's laughable. If that is what and how your mind works, then your avatar of a banjo-playing spaceman is quite appropriate.

Thank you though for proving the point I made earlier with Hitler Goddess that not "every conspiracy theory related to the jew" holds water.

The preponderance of the evidence in regard to 9-11 points toward conspiracy in general and government involvement specifically.

The hell it is! Says whom? Listen to this guy: "The preponderance of the evidence." Yeah, right. Now I suppose you're going to claim your "evidence" is simply some circumstantial evidence pointing to the government's covering up of some malfeasance. You'll totally backtrack from that "preponderance of evidence" statement if called on it.

But it speaks volumes when someone comes along and calls people names merely for speculating or expressing opinions.

"It speaks volumes"...get out of here! You mean like screaming KIKE and JEW and whatever else?

Some of us have been on the internet long enuf and argued in more than enuf debates to recognize a skunk when we smell one.

Yeah, yeah, I'm a troll/jew/provacateur. The fact is that I'm not, but I would expect nothing less from a conspiracy crank. It's just the manner by which you think.

Alright, Hate Dept, you win.

There were 19 arab hijackers, after all. Yup. That's why they are on the airport security cameras, were found dead at every site, were on the passenger manifest.

A man in a cave in Afghanistan funded them because they hated our freedoms.

Hate Dept.

Three weeks ago I asked you to reveal you own ideas about what caused WTC7 to collapse, and you replied,

"No building has ever collapsed that way.

WTC 7 came down due to explosives, most likely placed between the first and second floors."

So, have you changed your mind? If not, what is it that makes our ideas so far apart? Why do you think the explosives were placed betweeen the first and second floors? Who do you think put them there and when? Who caused thier detonation? Do you contemplate the possibility that explosives were placed elsewhere throughout the building so as to insure a good "pull", and, if not, why confine your suspicions to ONLY the first and second floors?

Do you suspect the owner, Larry S, to have been ignorant of thexe explosives you believe were placed between the 1st and 2nd floors? If so, why? Don't you suscribe to the general notion that a building owner either knows, or OUGHT TO KNOW, if there are any hazardous materiials in his building?

Unless you have changed your mind from your earlier post, then your ideas are probably not that much different than mine - maybe only in degree.

Contumacyman

[color="Red"]What more proof is needed?

Why Indeed Did the WTC Buildings Collapse?

Note: Prof. David Ray Griffin has written a complementary paper on this topic, available at:

http://911review.com/articles/griffin/nyc1.html

Prof. Griffin's paper is scheduled for publication in The Hidden History of 9-11-2001, Research in Political Economy, Volume 23, P. Zarembka, editor, Amsterdam: Elsevier, forthcoming in Spring 2006.

Prof. James Fetzer has also written a complementary paper on this topic, available here: http://www.st911.org/

Prof. Steven Jones is an invited speaker at an upcoming conference on this subject:

“9/11: Revealing the Truth, Reclaiming Our Future—An International Education and Strategy Conference.”

It will be held at the Embassy Suites Hotel Chicago-O'Hare Rosemont, June 2-4, 2006.

DRAFT 5.5

The views in this paper are the sole responsibility of the author (not Brigham Young University).

The paper (below) has undergone modifications and a second set of peer reviews and has been accepted for publication in a volume edited by David Ray Griffin and Peter Dale Scott.

Why Indeed Did the WTC Buildings Collapse?

By Steven E. Jones

Provo, UT 84602

ABSTRACT

In writing this paper, I call for a serious investigation of the hypothesis that WTC 7 and the Twin Towers were brought down, not just by impact damage and fires, but through the use of pre-positioned cutter-charges. I consider the official FEMA, NIST, and 9-11 Commission reports that fires plus impact damage alone caused complete collapses of all three buildings. And I present evidence for the controlled-demolition hypothesis, which is suggested by the available data, testable and falsifiable, and yet has not been analyzed in any of the reports funded by the US government.

Introduction

We start with the fact that large quantities of molten metal were observed in basement areas under rubble piles of all three buildings: the Twin Towers and WTC7. A video clip provides eye-witness evidence regarding this metal at ground zero: http://plaguepuppy.net/public_html/video%20archive/red_hot_ground_zero_low_quality.wmv . The photograph below by Frank Silecchia shows a chunk of the hot metal being removed from the North Tower rubble about eight weeks after 9-11. Notice the color of the lower portion of the extracted metal -- this tells us much about the temperature of the metal and provides important clues regarding its composition, as we shall see.

Rest here: http://www.physics.byu.edu/research/energy/htm7.html

Get this fucking jew hate dept. off of here.

Consider this your only warning to stop this "you're a jew" bullshit.

To Erich1776,

The way I handle the frustration you feel is the same way I handle crummy radio stations - I skip over them when scanning. Some of the posters here are on my "skip over" list, and, I avoid the angst that way. It is useless, and very frustrating, to bother talking to, or lending an ear to, contrarian folks who have made up their minds not to explore situations in the right spirit.

Hate Dept, is not yet on my "to avoid" list, since he did agree a while back as to the likelyhood that explosives were used to bring down WTC7. Others who refuse to contemplate what brought down WTC7 (don't know, don't care), or, those who proclaim adamately that no explosives were involved, are to be reagarded as not worth bothering with. I don't even read their posts on any subject.

I sympathize with your frustration, though, and I do wish folks would think things through more thoroughly before swallowing the official nonsense about 9/11.

Contumacyman

Consider this your only warning to stop this "you're a jew" bullshit.

Ban me now please. I'm not going to be threatened to be banned by so called white nationalist moderators who would rather ban me than jew stooges towing the jew lie on 911.

I'm from New Jersey, a good friend of mine died on 911.

Do your job, that's the purpose of this thread.

"9-11: Spotlight on the enemy within VNN." The enemies are the worthless moderators and kike agents.

We put the spotlight on the kike infiltrators. But you would rather take me out.

I wasn't really serious about the yellow stars.

Pretty neat, I think, although impossible to actually do. After all, just about everyone here has been accused of being a kike at one time or another. Who would make the final decision and using what criteria?
If Rounder made the decision, for example, we'd all eventually end up in Auschwitz.
Then what would we do? We'd have to laze poolside all day and dress up in tights and perform plays in the theatre in the evenings.

There were 19 arab hijackers, after all. Yup. That's why they are on the airport security cameras, were found dead at every site, were on the passenger manifest.

Yes but you see, they were on the passenger manifest. They were there.

That is historical fucking fact.

Do you read much?

Duke, MacDonald?

This is what I wrote:

"Neoconservative" has been around for probably 25 years, at least. It defines people from the left who became liberal Republicans and globalists. There weren't a preponderance of jews amongst neocons until recently.

I could be slightly off on the last sentence but remember I said "preponderance".

So I suppose you're going to tell me that it was actually a jew-communist conspiracy to control both parties? Nope--don't buy it; sorry.

I too belong to the "unbelievers".I'm neither jewish,nor a fed agent or a white traitor.

I have to admit that i havent even bothered looking at the "evidents" of the conspiracy theorists nor do i intend to.I will stick to the "official" story as i believe it makes a strong case for us even as it is.

Spending time and resources trying to prove a conspiracy theory about 9/11 is idiotic.We have more productive things to do.

These threads on the WTC demolitions have been some of the most revealing ever in this forum.

9/11 was Ultimate Chutzpah. Jews pride themselves on brazen arrogance. They bet they could get away with it, but I think they're going to lose. No one who watches these videos who's willing to accept evidence is going to believe the government is telling the truth.

WTC is unraveling in parallel with the war jews thought was going to be good for Israel.

The question is, what price should the jewish people pay for murdering 3,000 of our countrymen?

The average American is like the fireman quoted in the story I posted on the other thread. In his heart he suspects, but if he troubles himself to dig into the details he'll discover the truth: that the whole thing - Bush, Cheny, Congress, Limbaugh, O'Reilly -- is a monstrous scam. And he'll have to do something about it. He desperately seeks to keep his illusions. That is where our truth-pressure must be firm. We must encourage, like Paul Craig Roberts, to face his fears and speak the truth to and about jews.

Even Americans have to grow up sometime. The WTC demolitions just might trigger a character growth spurt.

Perhaps the real dominos WTC knocked over won't be Iraq, Iran and Syria, but The Holocaust, the "good" war, and Our Gallant Little Ally Israel.

This was a Mossad false flag like countless others, and if you believe otherwise, you're either foolish or trying to mislead others.

RE: alex

I have to admit that i havent even bothered looking at the "evidents" of the conspiracy theorists nor do i intend to.I will stick to the "official" story as i believe it makes a strong case for us even as it is.

You make a good point here.

Nevertheless, it is important that we know the truth and refuse to spout jew-manufactured lies, whether or not they serve our purpose.

My previous post gives profession and expert evidence that is irrefutable. Speaking as a degreed engineer, the presentation given by Professor Steven E. Jones is above reproach and completely factual.

This is a tough pill to swallow. But the fact is that someone else other then Islamic terrorists killed over 3000 Americans in the Twin Towers and the American government is covering-up the guilty.

Expect that we will be deluged with hundreds of lies and counter-spin and more cover-up from ZOG because if the general public knew these facts to be true, all U.S. government credibility would be lost forever.