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Category: News & Opinion (General)**Topic: Government
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Synopsis:
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Source: Pravda
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Published: August 19, 2004**Author: Joseph John Hrevnack
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For Education and Discussion Only.**Not for Commercial Use.
08/19/2004 13:31
The basic truth is that Al Qaeda does not exist and never has. Al Qaeda is a manufactured enemy who was created by the Bush Administration in order to have an excuse to wage a war for the control of the world"s oil resources.
Did an American even hear the words "Al Qaeda" before 9-11? Or were we told that its alleged leader Osama Bin Laden has family who themselves have personal business relationships with George W. Bush"s family and that both families had financially profited considerably from the "War on Terror"?
If "Al Qaeda" was such an organized group terrorists as we are being told then why weren"t we the people notified of this evil threat when the US Cole was bombed a few months before 9-11? "Al Qaeda" is nothing more than a broad euphemistic umbrella classification used to group any Middle Eastern fighter under the Sun as an enemy. The most diabolical aspect of this public relations stunt is that it enables the current Administration to label any group it feels necessary to attack to appear to be related to an unprovable organized enemy while at the same time actually increasing its approval ratings by exploiting the basic primal fears of the American public. Furthermore when one realizes the questionable motivations that this Administration has used previously to attack an enemy, as what is now surfacing about the Iraq War, one begins to get the strange feeling that this Orwellian double-speak is nothing more than a smoke and mirror illusion whose true intentions would of made Goebbels himself jealous.
Think about it: How could a bunch of technologically unadvanced group of people from third-world nations such as "Al Qaeda" ever have any real central organization structure? If they had any real organization they would have most certainly attacked us again after September eleventh. Where are all the terrorist cells in this country? Contrary to what has been implicitly presented in the media there HAS NEVER been a single domestic terror cell caught since Bush has been in office! The majority of suspects that have been arrested and detained in the immediate aftermath of 9-11 with the exception of a handful have not been charged with crimes in anyway associated with terrorism. All of their crimes are minor and for the most part are ! related to immigration violations of some sort. There is some ambiguity in all of this though because to this day the Ashcroft Justice Department has been less than forthcoming with the specifics of these arrests. Why would this be the case if the justifications for these arrests were really legitimate? We have been bombarded by the media with every indignity from the duck-tape chronicles to the crop dusting threat. You would think that with all this seeming sensitivity by our government about informing the general populace about possible terror threats, especially when some of their sources came from "unnamed and confidential secondary sources", that the Ashcroft Justice Department would have gone out of it"s way to mention to the public any terrorist connections that the people detained after 9-11 had and would of sworn by it on a stack of Bibles.
To date the only really suspicious activity of people detained after 9-11 were a group of Israelis who were caught in Jersey City, New Jersey filming themselves in the foreground of the burning World Trade Center with "looks of jubilation on their faces". It was later confirmed that two of the gentlemen detained had known Mossad ties. While they were detained it is of no matter now as they were subsequently released from jail a few! weeks later and were allowed to go back to Israel with no questions asked by the direct authorization of the Justice Department. I guess they were just dropping off a box of cigars to Governor McGreevy?
What is even more illuminating about all of this is that to this day nobody has taken responsibility for the attacks of 9-11, including "Al Qaeda". The only thing to link these attacks to anyone is the video tape of Osama Bin Laden that was conveniently found in a cave in Afghanistan that had him talking about the physical structure of the World Trade Center and the plane strike. The audio quality of this tape is so poor that any objective Arab-speaking analyst who was asked to give their opinion was unable to do so! as they claimed that just about all the words on it were inaudible. I believe an objective investigation into this original tape"s authenticity could verify if this admission is in fact genuine and could shed some light on the truth of the existence of "Al Qaeda". But even if this tape is genuine what would this really prove? As I have already mentioned it is common knowledge that Osama Bin Laden is connected to George W. Bush"s family by a minimum of two degrees of separation. So in the grand scheme of things what does this really matter? That the Cobra Commander said he did it?
In summary, "Al Qaeda" does not exist nor has it ever. If it really existed to anywhere near the extent that we have been told then there would have been an attack on our homeland. Of course this proof of a negative is used by the Administration to justify themselves to the American public that they are doing their jobs, but when one realizes that "Al Qaeda" is really nothing more than an artificially manufactured enemy then what job are they really doing other than capitalizing off of people"s fears? What other issue does the present Administration have to offer the average working-class citizen other than security? And if security is really only a Red Herring platform issue, then of what use are they to begin with? In addition, ! if there were any degree of truth in the strength of "Al Qaeda" or even of their very existence then there would have been a much larger resistance in Afghanistan and especially in Iraq. If an organization structure existed within "Al Qaeda" then you would have seen the Iraqi resistance be a much more conventional ! one. They would have had the communication capability and weapons arsenal to mount a more traditional counter-offensive against our troops and they would have been successful doing it because our force"s numbers are so minimal. This would have been a prime opportunity to defeat "the great satan" in front of the entire world. Their motivation to do so would have been so strong that in order for them to of not of done this one must make the quantum leap and conclude that "Al Qaeda" is much to do about nothing and always has been. The emperor is naked and running through the courtyard with a great big barrel of oil.
Joseph John Hrevnack
http://www.libertyforum.org/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=news_government&Number=292871809
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Probably true.
Muslims are being scapegoated by the jewish media.
Islam is the jews number 1 enemy, as ALL muslims know about the perfidy of the jew.
Having said that. Muslims should stay in the 3rd World and keep out of the West.
We are either christian or no religion. We are white !
To say that the Bush govt has total control and invented Al Queda to control is just more Michael Moore drivel. Bush is not that powerful to invent Al Queda... or that smart. It was invented as a catch all muslim movement against "jews and christians" to control the world...
Fact is it is the boogey man (Goldstein... in the book 1984) that the shadow govt invented to scare the masses into fearing an enemy and therefore giving the govt more power over the people. The bigger the govt gets the more power it takes to operate it and the more desperate and careless they become in gaining that power.
That particular article is full of conjecture. We should not parrot the lines because they don't name the jew.
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Rambo III was dedicated to Al Qaeda, watch right before the end credits.
Doppelhaken, Draco, Richard H, ToddinFl, Augustus Sutter, Chain, Subrosa, Jarl, White Will, whose next?
'FIRST BLOOD' was the only one of that film series, that was believable. The rest were crap .
Rambo III was dedicated to Al Qaeda, watch right before the end credits.
Now that's damn good to know.
Sylvester Stallone, Al Qaeda supporter from way-back. I like that.
Note that Stallone was heavily involved with the merc magazine Soldier of Fortune when RIII was made. It's a dead cinch that SoF knew Al Qaeda was at the very least a CIA asset from the get-go.
What about Stallone? What did he know & when did he know it?
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Don’t forget part three where he plugged a bullet hole with a wooden plugs.
Doppelhaken, Draco, Richard H, ToddinFl, Augustus Sutter, Chain, Subrosa, Jarl, White Will, whose next?
Fact is it [Al Queda] is the boogey man (Goldstein... in the book 1984) that the shadow govt invented to scare the masses into fearing an enemy and therefore giving the govt more power over the people.
Spot on. We even have the 'two minutes hate' too.
Spreading paranoia in the ranks of the enemy is an old trick.
Remember that the next time someone starts accusing all and sundry of being an 'infiltrator', 'traitor', or 'red'.
Spot on. We even have the 'two minutes hate' too.
Hahaha... u r right dude.
I never heard that shit about the Rambo movies. Is there a link or do I have to actually leave my house to rent a movie...*bangs head against the wall about the thought of actually having to talk to people...* Arghhhh.!!!
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From The Liberty Forum:
Category: News & Opinion (General)**Topic: Government
**
Synopsis:**
Source: Pravda**
Published: August 19, 2004**Author: Joseph John Hrevnack**
For Education and Discussion Only.**Not for Commercial Use.08/19/2004 13:31
The basic truth is that Al Qaeda does not exist and never has. Al Qaeda is a manufactured enemy who was created by the Bush Administration in order to have an excuse to wage a war for the control of the world"s oil resources.
Did an American even hear the words "Al Qaeda" before 9-11? Or were we told that its alleged leader Osama Bin Laden has family who themselves have personal business relationships with George W. Bush"s family and that both families had financially profited considerably from the "War on Terror"?If "Al Qaeda" was such an organized group terrorists as we are being told then why weren"t we the people notified of this evil threat when the US Cole was bombed a few months before 9-11? "Al Qaeda" is nothing more than a broad euphemistic umbrella classification used to group any Middle Eastern fighter under the Sun as an enemy. The most diabolical aspect of this public relations stunt is that it enables the current Administration to label any group it feels necessary to attack to appear to be related to an unprovable organized enemy while at the same time actually increasing its approval ratings by exploiting the basic primal fears of the American public. Furthermore when one realizes the questionable motivations that this Administration has used previously to attack an enemy, as what is now surfacing about the Iraq War, one begins to get the strange feeling that this Orwellian double-speak is nothing more than a smoke and mirror illusion whose true intentions would of made Goebbels himself jealous.
Think about it: How could a bunch of technologically unadvanced group of people from third-world nations such as "Al Qaeda" ever have any real central organization structure? If they had any real organization they would have most certainly attacked us again after September eleventh. Where are all the terrorist cells in this country? Contrary to what has been implicitly presented in the media there HAS NEVER been a single domestic terror cell caught since Bush has been in office! The majority of suspects that have been arrested and detained in the immediate aftermath of 9-11 with the exception of a handful have not been charged with crimes in anyway associated with terrorism. All of their crimes are minor and for the most part are ! related to immigration violations of some sort. There is some ambiguity in all of this though because to this day the Ashcroft Justice Department has been less than forthcoming with the specifics of these arrests. Why would this be the case if the justifications for these arrests were really legitimate? We have been bombarded by the media with every indignity from the duck-tape chronicles to the crop dusting threat. You would think that with all this seeming sensitivity by our government about informing the general populace about possible terror threats, especially when some of their sources came from "unnamed and confidential secondary sources", that the Ashcroft Justice Department would have gone out of it"s way to mention to the public any terrorist connections that the people detained after 9-11 had and would of sworn by it on a stack of Bibles.
To date the only really suspicious activity of people detained after 9-11 were a group of Israelis who were caught in Jersey City, New Jersey filming themselves in the foreground of the burning World Trade Center with "looks of jubilation on their faces". It was later confirmed that two of the gentlemen detained had known Mossad ties. While they were detained it is of no matter now as they were subsequently released from jail a few! weeks later and were allowed to go back to Israel with no questions asked by the direct authorization of the Justice Department. I guess they were just dropping off a box of cigars to Governor McGreevy?
What is even more illuminating about all of this is that to this day nobody has taken responsibility for the attacks of 9-11, including "Al Qaeda". The only thing to link these attacks to anyone is the video tape of Osama Bin Laden that was conveniently found in a cave in Afghanistan that had him talking about the physical structure of the World Trade Center and the plane strike. The audio quality of this tape is so poor that any objective Arab-speaking analyst who was asked to give their opinion was unable to do so! as they claimed that just about all the words on it were inaudible. I believe an objective investigation into this original tape"s authenticity could verify if this admission is in fact genuine and could shed some light on the truth of the existence of "Al Qaeda". But even if this tape is genuine what would this really prove? As I have already mentioned it is common knowledge that Osama Bin Laden is connected to George W. Bush"s family by a minimum of two degrees of separation. So in the grand scheme of things what does this really matter? That the Cobra Commander said he did it?
In summary, "Al Qaeda" does not exist nor has it ever. If it really existed to anywhere near the extent that we have been told then there would have been an attack on our homeland. Of course this proof of a negative is used by the Administration to justify themselves to the American public that they are doing their jobs, but when one realizes that "Al Qaeda" is really nothing more than an artificially manufactured enemy then what job are they really doing other than capitalizing off of people"s fears? What other issue does the present Administration have to offer the average working-class citizen other than security? And if security is really only a Red Herring platform issue, then of what use are they to begin with? In addition, ! if there were any degree of truth in the strength of "Al Qaeda" or even of their very existence then there would have been a much larger resistance in Afghanistan and especially in Iraq. If an organization structure existed within "Al Qaeda" then you would have seen the Iraqi resistance be a much more conventional ! one. They would have had the communication capability and weapons arsenal to mount a more traditional counter-offensive against our troops and they would have been successful doing it because our force"s numbers are so minimal. This would have been a prime opportunity to defeat "the great satan" in front of the entire world. Their motivation to do so would have been so strong that in order for them to of not of done this one must make the quantum leap and conclude that "Al Qaeda" is much to do about nothing and always has been. The emperor is naked and running through the courtyard with a great big barrel of oil.
Joseph John Hrevnack
http://www.libertyforum.org/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=news_government&Number=292871809
This kind of thinking is intellectually bankrupt.
Hahaha... u r right dude.
I never heard that sh-- about the Rambo movies. Is there a link or do I have to actually leave my house to rent a movie...*bangs head against the wall about the thought of actually having to talk to people...* Arghhhh.!!!
At the very end it says dedicated to the Afgahni freedom fighters which is what the Al quada was called at the time that movie was filmed.
it is playing on the action network now.
Doppelhaken, Draco, Richard H, ToddinFl, Augustus Sutter, Chain, Subrosa, Jarl, White Will, whose next?
The basic truth is that Al Qaeda does not exist and never has. Al Qaeda is a manufactured enemy who was created by the Bush Administration in order to have an excuse to wage a war for the control of the world"s oil resources.
For the sake of discussion let's say this is true.
COOL!!
And everyone said Bush was stupid. We need oil, they have it. If the real reason for the war was oil, then it's a good thing.
Good work, Bush!! 
R-MacDonald 14-88 asks "Did an American even hear the words "Al Qaeda" before 9-11?".
Well Oliver North (remember him? with the sex bomb secretary Fawn something or other) was warning those who would listen of the dangers of Binladin and 'the Base' (Al Qaeda) years ago in the early days of President Ronald Reagan.
You might as well ask, had any American heard of Chechnya before trouble started there? and how many Americans even now can look at a Globe showing the political delineations on this planet and point out where Chechynya sits - even now?.
Is it true to state that most Americans are 'geographically-challenged' when it comes to knowing some of the politics and places outside of the USA?. Its like when Bill Clinton was under fire for philandering and was simultaneously asked about an African crisis in the making:
"Mr President, what do you think of Rwanda"?
Clinton, nervously: "Rwanda?. I aint never met her. Tell that Rwanda she's lying."

Al Queda is, imo, just a word the media likes to bandy around to mystify the lemmings. Osama and a handful of his wealthy lieutenants have a bunch of money left to him by his father and so a few thousand dune coons are well funded enough to have the guns and grenades necessary to play religious crime bosses in their desert playgrounds.
It's a word for the armchair chickenhawks to add to their limited vocabularies which roughly translates into "filthy Muslim ragheads who attacked us on 9-11 because they're a bunch of jealous, backward, stone age scumbags who worship some cocksucker called Allah".
It's just a title meaning "group of Muslim fanatics who would rather die than submit to western tyranny and decadence". Al Queda = Arab guys with guns who hate jews and Americans.
While the American media does tend to lump all anti-globalist/anti-Israel Muslim movements together as Al Qaeda, there certainly is an actual Al Qaeda organization.
Where is their corporate headquarters? What is their official policy? Do they pay taxes? What are the names of the board of directors? What is the corporate mission? Are they profitable?
"The Mafia" is how I see the world Al Queda. Organized crime, or in the case of Al Queda, semi-organized Arabs with guns and a boogeyman the media uses to make the lemmings believe there is some massive organization out there who's about to kill a million Americans at any moment if we don't hit them first.