The worst scenario is if ZOG permits/endorses a few token WN senators. That would convince the majority of WN that the Jews' influence has been "overblown" and "we can win through the ballot box". Then we would languish and the more gullible WNs would spend their time emailing these senators.

Even if these politicians had the best intentions it hurts us because it validifies ZOG and is no threat to them.

Interesting point.

I can understand why your Mr Duke is popular as Americans like style over substance but did he not rip off supporters and gamble the money away?

Cut the slanderous crap.

Many have said, like Metzger, that he is just that. Another conservative who attacks the true revolutionaries who understand that we cannot save the white race through the ballot box or by "educating" ourselves by reading more material on the Jewish problem.

America as I said before is broken and degenerate. It can't be saved. It is a body in terminal, cancerous decline and no amount of pamplet passing can save it. When the race war proper starts, and it already has in my view, it will not matter whether you read another book by Duke or Strom but whether you have enough ammunition in your machine gun and shotgun.

This is fundamental. White people know the problems of black crime, race mixing and decline as I have said before and in one example that comes to mind the Forsyth County, in 1987, whites kicked the niggers out on their own without the need for any "education". Toledo whites in 2005 need help and support and where were the respectable Duke-alike conservatives then? Despite the NSM's supposed problems yet again we see the real fighters, the National Socialists, prepared to get their hands dirty and take to the streets.

Where are these Stroms and Dukes when the shit hits the fan? Complaining about men who stand up and fight in the open because they aren't wearing suits and ties? Attacking those wearing the symbol of White Power incorporated by the greatest 20th Century American Lincoln Rockwell?

Rockwell's work was a beacon. He knew what a bunch of nobodies the conservatives were. Rockwell's is the acid test for the American movement today. Those who know that the sides of the next revolution will be determined by the colour of your skin. And not the cut of your suit or the nose job undertaken by plastic surgeons.

White, working class mass revolutionary action to overthrow the system is what is needed and will happen supported by those few brave souls prepared to effect violent attack on this Jew-inspired system.

I think Rockwell was another major White hero, whose place in our history will only grow -- if we survive. I think, however, you are underestimating David Duke's effectiveness and helpfulness and influence. For one thing, you must realize that Duke's scope is worldwide. He does not limit himself to America -- though he is of immense value to America's White Movement. But he is also having a significant impact on the anti-jew movements in Western and Eastern Europe, including the vital-to-our-cause Russia and Ukraine.

Because I admire one type of White hero does not mean I don't admire another. We need all types of WN's. We are, after all, a DIVERSELY homogeneous race.

OK Devere. I hear what you are saying but I remain unconvinced. I'd rather send money to TAA than anything else my reason being that although based in Europe I see the US theatre of race war as vital hence my interest.

Also I don't trust most movement "leaders" and think there is too much hoping for a great new "White Hope" in America. Here in Germany we have got so used to state intereference and learned to act by ourselves in small groups and yet remain effective, still able to come together en masse when the time is right.

It is to be hoped that the US movement will opt for propaganda by deed every time! This war for white resistance will, I truly believe, never be respectable or easy. So you see where I am coming from.

OK Devere. I hear what you are saying but I remain unconvinced. I'd rather send money to TAA than anything else my reason being that although based in Europe I see the US theatre of race war as vital hence my interest.

Also I don't trust most movement "leaders" and think there is too much hoping for a great new "White Hope" in America. Here in Germany we have got so used to state intereference and learned to act by ourselves in small groups and yet remain effective, still able to come together en masse when the time is right.

It is to be hoped that the US movement will opt for propaganda by deed every time! This war for white resistance will, I truly believe, never be respectable or easy. So you see where I am coming from.

I don't disagree with your "propaganda by deed" advocacy. I've been advocating it too. But we must move forward on all fronts simultaneously. David Duke has a vital role -- as does Hal Turner, the NSM, and even the Minutemen.

The primary impediment to the White race defending itself is the web of fear within which we are trapped. It is fear based on a reality of painful consequences carefully established by zog -- social criticism, loss of a female mate for being too "conservative" let alone WN (white women have been trained to believe that only liberal white men or dumb violent niggers are acceptable mates), loss of one's job, loss of one's career, prison intentionally designed to be "cruel and unusual" (incarceration with subhuman dumb violent raping anti-white coherent non-white tribalists), torture, assassination, mass murder. Whatever consequence is required to crush resistance is what zog will do. The prime example is the Soviet Union, in which the jews murdered tens of millions and enslaved hundreds of millions. America and the West have been sovietized. Those who have witnessed or studied that period know that zog has no moral self-constraints along their road to the genocide of the White race.

In such circumstances, the only way out is to convince White Men to overcome their realistic fear through individual racially patriotic decision to place the survival of the race above all possible negative consequences. White Men must become willing to face any consequence in zog's bag of evil, including a willingness to die, in order to implement whatever is necessary to win, including a willingness to kill. Until enough White Men achieve that level of opposition, there will be no way out. Mass uprising quells individual fear -- although zog is doubtless prepared for mass incarceration in concentration camps, if necessary -- as evidenced by the Soviet Union. Nevertheless, mass uprising is the only way out.

How to reach mass uprising? Education (Taylor, Duke, Strom, AmRen, SF, NV, VNN, etc.). Growing activism (Hal Turner, NSM). The answer, unfortunately, is gradually -- but it will not be a linear gradualism of awakening. It will be compounding, as I've said in my thread Compounding White Nationalism (http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=17621). This is underway. Time is still required (and we have less and less time as the inundation of our homelands continue and accelerate), but White awareness and racial cohesion will also accelerate at a compounding rate.

My point is that all approaches must be pursued simultaneously.

One caveat for America. Americans alone in the world are allowed by zog to possess guns. WE MUST NEVER GIVE UP OUR GUNS. WE MUST FIGHT TO THE DEATH TO KEEP OUR GUNS -- FOR OUR DEATH WILL BE THE RESULT OF LOSING THEM. Our guns are what differentiates the Soviet America from the Soviet Union.