no way censor, people come to this forum to freely express themselves. We dont need yet another sissy noobfront. Fuck censorship .

Don't get THIS clusterfuck topic started again. I am sick and tired of this fucked-up topic. The genie is out of the bottle. We like our naughty words. Here are some words worthy of banishment...

Islamofascist
White Supremacist
Jew (with a capital "J")
African-American
Dishwater Blonde
Extremist
Antisemitism
Neo-Nazi
War On Terror
Antifa
La Raza
Piss-Ant Parasite

IMHO, nigger spic and kike are in a different class than shit piss and fuck. The former are actually legitimate words that the kikes have pathologized, whereas the latter are generally all-around "bad" words. Personally I don't really care about the issue that much. I'm just making a distinction.

Let's discuss this a bit. The discussion to date has been premised on irrationality: that the one word "fuck" in thread titles will bounce newbies and would-be advertisers off of VNN back into the arms of lemmingland.

One of my concerns is that this issue was just an excuse by one man to finance a political run (a worthwhile White exercise but) using funds sent to him by earnest supporters for a totally different purpose: the VNN tabloid. If this is what is really going on then this is, at the least, a significantly immoral act, in my opinion. But let's set aside that issue for now -- although I don't think it -- as I've just expressed it -- has been directly explored (but then I haven't read all of the threads all the way through re Rounder's decision to leave the tabloid clerk job). It needs to be directly explored. But I'm getting sick of the subject. And I don't want to start yet another Rounder-flame-war. I've never started one myself and, in fact, I've carefully avoided involvement in them until this issue arose.

My other concern is whether nirvana at VNN will be achieved by eradicating the one word "fuck" from thread titles. Is this a worthwhile concern or goal?

What about "nigger," "kike," "spic," "gook," "cunt," "shit," "piss," etc.? Why the discrimination against poor little "fuck"?

And newbies and advertisers are not concerned about "fuck" in the body of the thread but only in the title? Why the discrimination against poor little thread titles?

These are IRRATIONAL positions. No significant betterment of VNN Forum is achieved by eradicating "fuck" alone in thread titles alone.

Here are two RATIONAL positions on this topic:

If "fuck" is to be gotten rid of in thread titles, then it needs to be gotten rid of in thread bodies.

If "fuck" is to be gotten rid of everywhere and anywhere in the VNN Forum, then -- from a standpoint of rationality if not desirability -- so must "nigger," "kike," "spic," "gook," "cunt," "shit," "piss," and all the rest.

Whether or not these positions are desirable is another question. But a little rationality is always nice.

LOL !!! Who do you think you're kidding, Devere. You not only enjoy flaming me, it's the purpose of this thread, and blatantly obvious to everyone who can read. You're a sly and cunning fellow, but transparent to me. (Mark my words, when I'm gone, he'll be one of the 1st to bash me behind my back, like I give a shit)

Yes, I want to use some of the money for my campaign. But I've stated so publicly to all supporters here, and except for you, none have objected, in spite of your multiple sly attempts to get them to.

no way censor, people come to this forum to freely express themselves. We dont need yet another sissy noobfront. Fuck censorship .

One needs only to observe your JOIN DATE, that says it all.

Don't get THIS clusterfuck topic started again. I am sick and tired of this fucked-up topic. The genie is out of the bottle. We like our naughty words. Here are some words worthy of banishment...

Islamofascist
White Supremacist
Jew (with a capital "J")
African-American
Dishwater Blonde
Extremist
Antisemitism
Neo-Nazi
War On Terror
Antifa
La Raza
Piss-Ant Parasite

Add to those
hate
intolerance
israelphobe
tolerance
machism
sexism
women's rights
affirmative action
positive discrimination
civil rights
equality
diversity is our strength
melting pot
politcal correctness
:box: no rest for stupidity. the left dead forever.

One needs only to observe your JOIN DATE, that says it all.

yeah im sure im a jew-spy of course.

I've got 2 better ideas. (1) You take over as tabloid clerk, and/or (2) stick the tabloid project up your ass.

Option #2 is beginning to sound better by the minute.

For the record, I do not think it is a good idea to censor VNN Forum. It's good to have some utterly free speech sites. We have one: this one. Let's keep it that way. I raised this issue to show the absurdity of the premises. If the premises are absurd, then so are the conclusions.

I think we might voluntarily tone it down a bit, I guess. Although as I continue to think about this, I'm not too concerned that we do so. Reason: newbies should be sent to National Vanguard and David Duke and Stormfront first, anyway -- not to VNN (although I do think Goyfire is particularly good -- probably for young aggressive newbies).

I also, for the record, think it's a good idea to have some more "polite" forums and websites -- such as National Vanguard and Stormfront (although, as we know, SF needs to be re-Whitened) -- as gentle entrance gates for newbies. They can come here when they're ready.

LOL !!! Who do you think you're kidding, Devere. You not only enjoy flaming me, it's the purpose of this thread, and blatantly obvious to everyone who can read. You're a sly and cunning fellow, but transparent to me. (Mark my words, when I'm gone, he'll be one of the 1st to bash me behind my back, like I give a shit)

I don't enjoy flaming YOU. I've never flamed YOU -- or anyone, that I remember. I am CRITICIZING YOUR ACTION AND DECISION in this instance. And I'm not being "sly" -- I'm being completely upfront and open in my criticism. Let's be honest here.

Yes, I want to use some of the money for my campaign. But I've stated so publicly to all supporters here, and except for you, none have objected, in spite of your multiple sly attempts to get them to.

Yes, you did so state, but you did not give contributors the obvious alternative option I have suggested: a Tabloid Fund controlled by the Tabloid Clerk (and you until such a one is selected). If you spend this money on your campaign, that money will NOT be there for future tabloid edition. That will injure a worthwhile VNN project in order to fund a person project. That is an immoral act.

Personally, I applaud your political run. I think it's a terrific and courageous and helpful thing for you to do. You are leading by example. And, if gold and silver make a big enough move here fairly soon and I thereby have extra money, I will send you a contribution towards it -- if you'd like me to. I just think you have to keep the two endeavors utterly separate -- and give the next tabloid clerk the tabloid fund that contributors have created for that purpose. I also think you need to keep good records of whatever fund you control -- writing down every cent spent and the reason and amounts received and so on. (I'm not suggesting you aren't doing that. I have no idea whether or not you are. I just think you should.)

Then you're an idiot.

I also, for the record, think it's a good idea to have some more "polite" forums and websites -- such as National Vanguard and Stormfront (although, as we know, SF needs to be re-Whitened) -- as gentle entrance gates for newbies. They can come here when they're ready.

SF is occupied territory now, an intelligent article there now is the exception rather than the rule. jews have totally ruined it. Personally, I wonder if its even a postive force on newbies anymore, or if it does more harm than good.
Its a perfect example of what "free speech" can do to a WN board.

I don't know if you're right on this or not. I do post there at times -- and recently got reprimanded by whatshisname (JJT?) who gave me an infraction for pointing out to a silly SF girl that negroes aren't "guys" -- that would imply equality with modern humans (White men) -- nor are they "blacks" -- because that likewise implies equality with "Whites." Anyway, I'm not convinced that SF does more harm than good, despite my personal experiences there.

Something that no one has addressed yet is this. If a new tabloid clerk takes over, I assume he/she would have access to everyone's name and address who had ordered the paper. Perhaps some of us do not want our names and addresses to go to someone "Alex approves." Did Alex approve AM as a mod, I sure as hell wouldn't want him provided with my personal info.
Once again Rounder is ahead of the curve.