You don't have much faith in the intelligence of the average VNNer, if you believe him incapable of distinguishing the wheat from the chaff for himself without your personal intercession and grace. The way I look at many of the old regulars (many of whom are now banned) is: If they are intelligent enough to be on this forum to begin with, then I want to hear them speak their point of view freely, so long as they do so civilly.

I agree with you fully that the critics, subversive or otherwise, should NOT have been allowed to derail your threads. Maybe you should have had your own whole subforum, to moderate as you see fit, and let the rest of VNNF stand as it were.

Furthermore, the problem with your advice is that it doesn't taken into account the fact that VNN has many enemies posting here sabotaging everything positive we try to accomplish. Some are quite good at it too.

Should we just ignore them and let them slither around freely to do their subversive work, unopposed ???

Is this where we all "high five" and get on with our bad selves?

I guess most of this thread is on another topic but, there really are some bad words we should avoid: We should not write yore when we mean yer , not write it's when we mean its, etc., etc., etc. ( See: http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/index.html )

Seriously and IMO, when writing, elementary mistakes in grammar, syntax, and spelling tend to do even more damage to one's credibility and successful promotion of one's ideas than the occasional fuck. And of course, some words deemed 'bad' by the stupid are actually very good and prove at once the high quality of the user's intelligence and wisdom, just by virtue of their being able to call a thing by its right name, as so seemingly few can do in these days of universal deceit. Eg: latrino, nigger, jew, etc.

Let us not forget also that bad ideas are worse by far than bad words! Hell, even good ideas are bad enough (a dime a dozen ya know, and all) so whatever we take the time to do or write, we ought to do very well, or at least, as well as we can. The niggers call it acting white, I think.

Absurdity of the premise ?? What freakin premise ?? All I asked for was the banning of the "F" word from thread topics, thus kept off VNNF main page, so guests wouldn't have their noses rubbed in it the first minute they get here. I didn't even suggest it, or other offensive words, be banned from VNNF posts.

The approval of my request would have kept me on as tabloid clerk and helped me greatly in recruiting enough new contributors and distributors to prevent TWPL project from dying out thru attrition. It wasn't growing but dying. It took 4 freakin months to get out 40,000 copies.

I felt then, and still do, that the gesture of removing "F" from mainpage, will go a long way in attracting new contributors and distributors who are reluctant to support a paper that asks people to come here.

And you really don't believe the idea is "absurd". This is just another of your sly, disingenuine, oblique swipes at me, personally.

Now take your ass whipping like a man, and cease your feeble, limp-wristed personal attacks, or I'll whip up on your ass smo.

This is our Rounder, who wants to make VNN safe for Southern ladies and children, speaking to a white woman on another WN forum about how her mouth would look with a man's erect penis in it.

http://www.thephora.net/forum/showthread.php?t=13017&page=14
Quote:
Originally Posted by Starr
Don't get me wrong. I like the angry fiery southern redneck style male. Hell, if I could move down south right now and find myself one I would be quite happy. But a more productive style would be one that would be more likely to appeal to all audiences, rather than just angry VNNers or the type of people you might see at a klan rally(I am not saying that to knock either)

Rounder's response:

Press your tongue against the inside of your cheek, then look in the mirror, and you'll see what gals look like when Southern men go "full length." Be therefore, "cautioned".

How can you speak to a young, white woman like that and then say you can't work with VNN b/c of foul language?

...
Why the heck are you doing all this David Duke promotion anyway, when Linder has been your devoted friend, and of WNs has almost exclusively had your back in the face of massive opprobrium, for the last two years? Just curious....

Because Duke is the bestest WN in the whole wide world per Rounder:
http://www.thephora.net/forum/showthread.php?t=13017&page=2

#17 09-11-2006, 12:34 PM
Glenn Miller
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David hasn't asked me to "promote" him or not to. And I didn't ask his permission. I promote his website for the simple reason it's the best, the most persuasive, and the most effective in EXPOSING THE GD JEWS to average White people.

By convincing folks via my newspaper, radio broadcasts, and media interviews to loggon to davidduke.com and to order David's books, I know I'm doing what's best for WN, thus what more rapidly advances our Cause of freedom from the jews, therefore racial survival. Simple as that.

Now, I won't begrudge Rounder his personal preferences- to each his own. I can even understand that preference. Duke and Rounder are both Southerners, Linder is not. Duke's clean-cut, straight-man style would naturally be more palatable to a man of Rounder's generation than Linder's loose, edgy, artistic style.

But I think it would only be appropriate for Rounder to put aside those personal preferences and tout Linder as the WN source since Linder is the only WN who allows Rounder to operate on his turf and affords Rounder the platform on which all of his work is based. One hand washes the other, right?

The underlying problem is the fact that, as Rounder said to me in another thread recently, he isn't here to make friends, only activists. But you know what? Friendship is where loyalty comes into the picture. Linder has earned Rounder's loyalty, but isn't getting it.

This is a problem that is easily rectified. Linder is your man, Rounder- not Duke who won't even talk to you!

Why is it that we are so willing to throw money at ventures that have no chance of success? Time is growing short, and the Jew must be dancing with delight over the possibility of WN money being spent to fund a political campaign that won't advance our cause one fucking inch.

Rounder's "campaign" is more or less a front to force radio stations to air his political ads in which he touts his favorite man of all time, David Duke.

In his own words: http://www.thephora.net/forum/showthread.php?t=13017&page=10

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Originally Posted by Joe McCarthy
I typically avoid internecine squabbles within the pro-white movement for two reasons. 1) I see them as fodder for proles. 2) They are dreadfully dull.

If everyone here can get beyond the histrionics we can see that Mr. Miller's proposal amounts to little more than the age old axiom that 'it pays to advertise'. How can radio ads reaching scores of thousands advertising WN sites and spreading the message have anything but a salutary effect? Ahhhh, but since he's not a smooth talking Ivy Leaguer like Pat Buchanan, we're better off if the folk not hear the message at all.

So goes the logic....or lack thereof....

P.S. The man's name is Richard Scutari.

Rounder's response:

Precisely. The primary purpose of my campaign radio and newspaper ads is to direct lemmings to the best WN websites, where they can become jew-wise. Ie., Goyfire.com and davidduke.com. And sometimes, my own: whty.com and whitepatriotparty.com.

No radio station would dare run my ads if I wasn't a candidate for federal office. Federal statutes require them to. Hence, why I run. ...
Last edited by Glenn Miller : 09-21-2006 at 03:23 PM.

What I want to know is why is only goyfire.com advertised? Why not govnn.com, vanguardnewsnetwork.com, sunlit heights, or vnnforum.com?

Why isn't Linder's name mentioned?

Rounder you're just plain wrong that Duke is the best face of WN for the average white american.

Duke was in the KKK for god's sake. That means he is forever tainted in the minds of the average white american as an evil person.

It's Linder who is the average, middle-class, college-educated, conservative who can relate to the average white, middle-class american, not a regional figure like former KKK'er Duke.

(And I'm not demeaning Duke at all- his books are outstanding, I would highly recommend them to all white people.)

This is our Rounder, who wants to make VNN safe for Southern ladies and children, speaking to a white woman on another WN forum about how her mouth would look with a man's erect penis in it.

http://www.thephora.net/forum/showthread.php?t=13017&page=14
Quote:
Originally Posted by Starr
Don't get me wrong. I like the angry fiery southern redneck style male. Hell, if I could move down south right now and find myself one I would be quite happy. But a more productive style would be one that would be more likely to appeal to all audiences, rather than just angry VNNers or the type of people you might see at a klan rally(I am not saying that to knock either)

Rounder's response:

Press your tongue against the inside of your cheek, then look in the mirror, and you'll see what gals look like when Southern men go "full length." Be therefore, "cautioned".

How can you speak to a young, white woman like that and then say you can't work with VNN b/c of foul language?

Good point, but that joke was posted on Phora, and those kike-alikes and idiots don't count, especially the kikess, Starr.

And you misunderstand my position on foul language used here.

Because Duke is the bestest WN in the whole wide world per Rounder:
http://www.thephora.net/forum/showthread.php?t=13017&page=2

#17 09-11-2006, 12:34 PM
Glenn Miller
Send me some freakin money Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 546

David hasn't asked me to "promote" him or not to. And I didn't ask his permission. I promote his website for the simple reason it's the best, the most persuasive, and the most effective in EXPOSING THE GD JEWS to average White people.

His book "Jewish Supremacism", is the greatest book ever written in my judgement. Which is why I advertised it in the last edition of TWPL.

Duke's personal opinion of me, whatever it is, is irrelevant. Only self-centered, juvenile "worms" base their WN activism decisions on whether or not the activism leader likes or dislikes them personally.

By convincing folks via my newspaper, radio broadcasts, and media interviews to loggon to davidduke.com and to order David's books, I know I'm doing what's best for WN, thus what more rapidly advances our Cause of freedom from the jews, therefore racial survival. Simple as that.

Now, I won't begrudge Rounder his personal preferences- to each his own. I can even understand that preference. Duke and Rounder are both Southerners, Linder is not. Duke's clean-cut, straight-man style would naturally be more palatable to a man of Rounder's generation than Linder's loose, edgy, artistic style.

But I think it would only be appropriate for Rounder to put aside those personal preferences and tout Linder as the WN source since Linder is the only WN who allows Rounder to operate on his turf and affords Rounder the platform on which all of his work is based. One hand washes the other, right?

The underlying problem is the fact that, as Rounder said to me in another thread recently, he isn't here to make friends, only activists. But you know what? Friendship is where loyalty comes into the picture. Linder has earned Rounder's loyalty, but isn't getting it.

This is a problem that is easily rectified. Linder is your man, Rounder- not Duke who won't even talk to you!

You're trying to stir up hard feelings between me and Alex. But you're wasting your time, and insulting Alex's intelligence. That is, if he reads your jibberish. Which he won't.

See ?? You prove you're anti-VNN and counter-productive to effective WN resistance, with your own mouth. And constantly. Not to mention you're a do-nothing-contribute-nothing, therefore parasite punk, sucking on those who do the work and pay the bills here.

Rounder's "campaign" is more or less a front to force radio stations to air his political ads in which he touts his favorite man of all time, David Duke.

In his own words: http://www.thephora.net/forum/showthread.php?t=13017&page=10

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe McCarthy
I typically avoid internecine squabbles within the pro-white movement for two reasons. 1) I see them as fodder for proles. 2) They are dreadfully dull.

If everyone here can get beyond the histrionics we can see that Mr. Miller's proposal amounts to little more than the age old axiom that 'it pays to advertise'. How can radio ads reaching scores of thousands advertising WN sites and spreading the message have anything but a salutary effect? Ahhhh, but since he's not a smooth talking Ivy Leaguer like Pat Buchanan, we're better off if the folk not hear the message at all.

So goes the logic....or lack thereof....

P.S. The man's name is Richard Scutari.

Rounder's response:

Precisely. The primary purpose of my campaign radio and newspaper ads is to direct lemmings to the best WN websites, where they can become jew-wise. Ie., Goyfire.com and davidduke.com. And sometimes, my own: whty.com and whitepatriotparty.com.

No radio station would dare run my ads if I wasn't a candidate for federal office. Federal statutes require them to. Hence, why I run. ...
Last edited by Glenn Miller : 09-21-2006 at 03:23 PM.

What I want to know is why is only goyfire.com advertised? Why not govnn.com, vanguardnewsnetwork.com, sunlit heights, or vnnforum.com?

Why isn't Linder's name mentioned?

Rounder you're just plain wrong that Duke is the best face of WN for the average white american.

Duke was in the KKK for god's sake. That means he is forever tainted in the minds of the average white american as an evil person.

It's Linder who is the average, middle-class, college-educated, conservative who can relate to the average white, middle-class american, not a regional figure like former KKK'er Duke.

(And I'm not demeaning Duke at all- his books are outstanding, I would highly recommend them to all white people.)

More disingenuine, shit-stirring, divisive jibberish. Also inaccurate.

ATTENTION VNN'ERS: Judge for yourselves. Is he honest, or is he just trying to cause hard feelings between me and Alex ?? See what I mean ?

Just think about it. He doesn't contribute to either our newspaper or my radio ads, therefore he has no real vested interest. Why then, does he devote so much of his time and efforts to criticise both ?? Surely yaw'll don't believe that piece of do-nothing shit, is all that interested in what's best for advancing our Cause, do ya ??

Good point, but that joke was posted on Phora, and those kike-alikes and idiots don't count, especially the kikess, Starr.

And you misunderstand my position on foul language used here.

I understand your position perfectly. Linder said he wanted the forum to be more focused on activism and you made your play. You thought the new direction of the forum meant that you were the big kahuna around here and you could start delivering ultimatums about how things would operate.

You got too big for your britches and the leeway you enjoyed as clerk isn't even operative anymore since you quit that position.

My prediction is that once your "campaign" is done with in early November, you'll return to your position as tabloid clerk since you are too energetic and love the limelight too much to just be a regular member of the forum.

Which is all fine by me, you're a hell of a go-getter and I respect that. Let me be the first to say, welcome back as tabloid clerk.

Just remember where your loyalty should lie. Linder, Linder, Linder...

I understand your position perfectly. Linder said he wanted the forum to be more focused on activism and you made your play. You thought the new direction of the forum meant that you were the big kahuna around here and you could start delivering ultimatums about how things would operate.

You got too big for your britches and the leeway you enjoyed as clerk isn't even operative anymore since you quit that position.

My prediction is that once your "campaign" is done with in early November, you'll return to your position as tabloid clerk since you are too energetic and love the limelight too much to just be a regular member of the forum.

Which is all fine by me, you're a hell of a go-getter and I respect that. Let me be the first to say, welcome back as tabloid clerk. ]

Either contribute or distribute or stop following me around like a dog. I have no time for parasites except to kick them when the mood strikes.

I already told you: Email or phone your anti-Miller case to Alex. We're sick of the repetition.

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You're trying to stir up hard feelings between me and Alex. But you're wasting your time, and insulting Alex's intelligence. That is, if he reads your jibberish. Which he won't.

See ?? You prove you're anti-VNN and counter-productive to effective WN resistance, with your own mouth. And constantly. Not to mention you're a do-nothing-contribute-nothing, therefore parasite punk, sucking on those who do the work and pay the bills here.

Read it? We'll discuss it. You're quite dense, aren't you? Again, you don't know what you are saying or who you are saying it to. That is a problem b/c you are a detriment to Linder's forum when you browbeat the people who come here based on your own agenda.

You need to realize this is not your forum and behave accordingly.

You need to start showing Linder the respect and loyalty he deserves as the only man who will give you working space in the WN community.

You need to stop biting the hand that feeds you basically.

I'm not trying to stir up bad feelings between you and Alex, but I've warned him about the pitfalls of dealing with your type. Everytime I've ever dealt with a "my way or the highway" type of person, as you are, I have been burned.

People, like you, who can never understand the other person's position and show no respect for the validity of other people's positions, who can't cooperate and demand everything be on their terms, people who can't communicate, people who can't tolerate differences even within their own group, eventually cause a lot of problems and then leave on bad terms.

Linder wants WNs to develop the kind of social skills with each other and the unwashed white masses that the jews have working together in hollywood. See his reference to Ben Stein's book in one of his latest postings. The jews know how to work together. They know how to form alliances with other groups. They know how to work through disagreements and dissension.

Rounder, I want you to stay and work with VNN, but you need to know you are not above criticism or questioning. You need to work with the other white members of the forum who are all valuable in their own way. You're back to your hysterical name-calling and accusations. Will you never learn?

Either contribute or distribute or stop following me around like a dog. I have no time for parasites except to kick them when the mood strikes.

I already told you: Email or phone your anti-Miller case to Alex. We're sick of the repetition.

You never deal with the issues. You simply retreat into ad hominems. And you have the gall to accuse others of being jews when that is the primary tactic of the jew!

I don't have to e-mail or phone Alex, you dumbass.

Your membership here is a privilege, Rounder. Don't push it.

I guess most of this thread is on another topic but, there really are some bad words we should avoid: We should not write yore when we mean yer , not write it's when we mean its, etc., etc., etc. ( See: http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/index.html )

Seriously and IMO, when writing, elementary mistakes in grammar, syntax, and spelling tend to do even more damage to one's credibility and successful promotion of one's ideas than the occasional fuck. And of course, some words deemed 'bad' by the stupid are actually very good and prove at once the high quality of the user's intelligence and wisdom, just by virtue of their being able to call a thing by its right name, as so seemingly few can do in these days of universal deceit. Eg: latrino, nigger, jew, etc.

Let us not forget also that bad ideas are worse by far than bad words! Hell, even good ideas are bad enough (a dime a dozen ya know, and all) so whatever we take the time to do or write, we ought to do very well, or at least, as well as we can. The niggers call it acting white, I think.

Good post.

More disingenuine, shit-stirring, divisive jibberish. Also inaccurate.

ATTENTION VNN'ERS: Judge for yourselves. Is he honest, or is he just trying to cause hard feelings between me and Alex ?? See what I mean ?

Just think about it. He doesn't contribute to either our newspaper or my radio ads, therefore he has no real vested interest. Why then, does he devote so much of his time and efforts to criticise both ?? Surely yaw'll don't believe that piece of do-nothing shit, is all that interested in what's best for advancing our Cause, do ya ??

I'll repeat my posting to which the above is a reply. I ask the forum, is the above response by Miller a real, appropriate response to the questions I posed below? I think not. It is merely a side-stepping of the issue of his using VNN to promote Duke and his lack of loyalty to Linder with a lot of name-calling to cover up.

What I want to know is why is only goyfire.com advertised? Why not govnn.com, vanguardnewsnetwork.com, sunlit heights, or vnnforum.com?

(And I'm not demeaning Duke at all- his books are outstanding, I would highly recommend them to all white people.)