Yes, VNN is looking for help. Devere, in case you can't reach Alex - which is known to happen - and the other moderators concur I'll set you up as a mod.

LOL!!! That's the understatement of the year.

If you want a mod that would be as good as AE why not have Linder contact AE and iron out those old contentions. I'd love to see him back here and I'm sure Geoff could use help citing that the other mods seldom show up.

I'm going to amplify a bit on chatting. Chatting IS activism. Chatterers, if loyal and well-intentioned, ARE contributors. They form the body of the forum. They help lock in the newbies, including themselves -- by the mere act of chatting. They deepen their and other chatterers' understanding via debates and references. They help fellow WN's deal with life in the Kwa with their timely helpful advice. Chatterers further the White Cause -- both by self-development and aiding the development of other WN's.

Very well put. I have been meaning to get around to writing an apologetic similar to this for a while. The basic point here is that people new to our ideas need exposure to those ideas in order to become acquainted with them. Until such time as we control the media and the educational system, the only way to give people that exposure is to have them seek it out themselves. The only way to have them seek it out is to create something interesting or fun enough to draw their attention. People like to chat. Why not have them chat on a forum where the basic atmosphere is pro-White? VNNF posters who keep the forum active, who write with wit and insight, and thus make the forum more interesting, are doing something positive for VNN.

The main purpose of a discussion forum is discussion. As far as supporting activism, a forum can help there too. There is a sub-forum for that purpose. There is no need to reduce the forum to a clubhouse.

LOL!!! That's the understatement of the year.

If you want a mod that would be as good as AE why not have Linder contact AE and iron out those old contentions. I'd love to see him back here and I'm sure Geoff could use help citing that the other mods seldom show up.

Alex first has to learn how to apologize to friends and allies, and apparently he hasn't learned that skill yet.

Alex first has to learn how to apologize to friends and allies, and apparently he hasn't learned that skill yet.

What do you expect, he has a journalism degree and has worked for "American Spectator" and I believe CNN. Do you know of any profession who thinks more highly of themselves than journalists?

Devere, how old are you? As much as you know about trading, I expect you are probably at least in your late thirites or early forties. But I ask for a reason. Alex told me he'd like to find a really sharp young guy (in large measure cause we are trying to reach young guys) around age 27 to be the mod. By "sharp", he obviously doesn't mean a bright, semi-genius wise arse, so hold back, guzzling VNNers. In any case, who knows? There just may be one around here posting or lurking. It doesn't hurt to ask.

I'm 64, Chain. In four months, I'll be 65. A long ways from 27 -- so I don't think I'd fit the bill Alex has in mind. (Thanks for asking though.)

Who are the mods right now? Is there a hierarchy of mods? I have no idea how the system is set up.

Ha ha. Glad to hear it. I felt the exhuberance of youth at 55 (not MPH) for about 10 seconds after reading your post. Well. No wonder you know so much. You can also actually realize from personal memory when we used to have a country.

Yes, VNN is looking for help. Devere, in case you can't reach Alex - which is known to happen - and the other moderators concur I'll set you up as a mod.

I might be interested in that, Geoff. Thanks. But we'd have to sort out the implications of my age. Having lived a fairly thoughtful six and a half decades is not necessarily an entirely bad thing -- and I am a young 64. Still, my point of view is going to reflect my life experiences -- which have been, by the sheer fact of my having lived through the major Kwa transition period of White into racial meltdown, very different from the life experience of a 27 year old.

If given my age, you still want to consider me as a mod, I'd want a day or two to think it over.

Ha ha. Glad to hear it. I felt the exuberance of youth at 55 (not MPH) for about 10 seconds after reading your post. Well. No wonder you know so much. You can also actually realize from personal memory when we used to have a country.

Glad to be the source of exuberance for a good White Man, even if only for 10 seconds. Yes, I remember well when we had a country. I also remember well when we had a Europe (having lived there too when it was a White Europe).

RE: Devere

I would’ve pegged you for younger as well.

Most people ossify as they get older. The ability to accept new ideas comes harder with each successive year after age 30. It’s your mental flexibility that belies your age. However, your overall gasp of things tells us that you are indeed a wise old sage.

Devere, I missed the FTL which you recorded. I must go back and listen.
I'd like to hear more about how you evolved to WN realizations. Your post #14 of this thread
http://vnnforum.com/showpost.php?p=447198&postcount=14
perhaps implies or hints that this was your path, as well as most of ours'.

Cognitive dissonant anti-white political events gradually overcome his ability to bear the internal dissonance. The White man or woman begins personal research.

2. Now receptive, he discovers White Nationalist people and websites.

3. He begins to deepen his understanding by reading and, if he's lucky, talking to a real live WN -- but mostly via reading forum postings and debates; reading articles and books; listening to radio shows and recorded speeches and debates; watching WN videos.

The racial realities around us have gnashed and chomped into a lot of us, and given us a vicious shaking, I guess. My point is-- it's pretty heartening to find that people such as yourself, with your cumulative life experience, have willingly come round to our side in the face of the Sword of Damocles of social ostracization etc. But maybe you were a longtime NA member or something. In any case, not every last White in The Kwa is refusing to face up to the harsh facts of the Multi Cult's part and parcel juggernaut of chaos and racial conflict. You and Geoff and others who have come and will come are proofs of that political reality.

I was banned by a thin-skinned moderator for posting the truth. Ha, ha.

Gleen you were in the W.P.P so you should know who the jews are sniff them out!!!!!!

It's impossible to prove beyond a reasonable doubt who the jews are on here. Or to prove who the crypto anti's are.

When I ran the WPP, I knew that lots of infiltrators attended our meetings, rallies, and marches, but it was impossible to prove who they were. And so I just constantly warned everybody at meetings and in our newspaper to be aware of the fact; to keep their activities legal; and to not allow paranoia about infiltrators to stop us from growing stronger and more numerous.

But face to face, real life meetings are entirely different from cyber space forums. The latter is far more vulnerable to effective subversions. For examples, if Hitler Goddess, Jim Crowe, eiO12, Chris V, Abzug Hoffman, New Dawn, and Draco, et.al., said at meetings what they say here, they'd get bitch slapped and drug off the property, ending their divisiveness, disruptions, confusions, disinformations, and demoralizations.

What most VNN'ers can't get thru their thick skulls is that effective resistance to the jews on internet forums, especially successful and growing activism projects, is impossible when sabotaged by jews and anti's posing as genuine WNs.

See what I mean ???

LOL!!! That's the understatement of the year.

If you want a mod that would be as good as AE why not have Linder contact AE and iron out those old contentions. I'd love to see him back here and I'm sure Geoff could use help citing that the other mods seldom show up.

I'll second that, Todd. And we need Will Williams back too. Where AE and Will go, lots of activists ( contributors, and distributors ) are sure to follow.

I'll second that, Todd. And we need Will Williams back too. Where AE and Will go, lots of activists ( contributors, and distributors ) are sure to follow.

The proprietorship can have what it wants here, Glenn.
And it obviously does.

Sorry, I don't know what this means: LMMFWAO.

Anyway, it was Alex Linder that asked me to do moderation, after the last outage. It was his opinion this forum should be governed a bit tighter.

It is my opinion there are not enough moderators and I would like to see more moderators.

Also, I would like to move on and concentrate on other areas.

It's easier and much safer to be the critic than to be the command decision maker, Geoff. You're doing a good job as moderator both on here and on VNN radio, and also as internet technician. And I appreciate your financial contributions as well as your voluntary distributions of our newspaper, which on at least one occasion, resulted in jewsmedia "compliments" in Kansas.

Augustus Sutter sent me about $100 and he distributed coupla thousand tabloids awhile back. He's a genuine WN, no doubt. I must point out however, that lately he's become a bit obnoxious and counter-productive to activism projects. Getting a lil cranky in his old age, perhaps. I recommend you restore him to full forum privileges in a week.