The proprietorship can have what it wants here, Glenn.
And it obviously does.

Well now Paul, the bosses ain't always right, but the bosses are always the bosses.

Also, when ya dance, you gotta pay the fiddler. Something you haven't done in quite a spell, though you keep on a dancin.

if Hitler Goddess, Jim Crowe, eiO12, Chris V, Abzug Hoffman, New Dawn, and Draco, et.al., said at meetings what they say here, they'd get bitch slapped and drug off the property, ending their divisiveness, disruptions, confusions, disinformations, and demoralizations.

LOL!!! I've actually seen this happen. Back in the NA days we didn't take shit from anti's. Bitch slapping is the most effective way of shutting a crypto up. It's like the end all of those faggots waiting to come out of the closet.

I'll second that, Todd. And we need Will Williams back too. Where AE and Will go, lots of activists ( contributors, and distributors ) are sure to follow.

I don't think they'll be back after all that's happened here. What we need is hardcore local activism at this point as an inspiration to others around the usa. That can happen but the first thing people need to do is get with others in their metro areas and pool finances and do something effective to get media attention. It's not that hard. Tabloids are great but flyers work well too. Once you get your name in the paper you'll never turn back.

4. He begins to CHAT in White forums. I'm going to amplify a bit on chatting. Chatting IS activism. Chatterers, if loyal and well-intentioned, ARE contributors. They form the body of the forum. They help lock in the newbies, including themselves -- by the mere act of chatting. They deepen their and other chatterers' understanding via debates and references. They help fellow WN's deal with life in the Kwa with their timely helpful advice. Chatterers further the White Cause -- both by self-development and aiding the development of other WN's.

Here's the bottom line. If you want to end up with the maximum number of contributors and activists at VNN, if you want VNN to be a viable and useful forum, you better allow the full process to unfold organically at the individual's own pace.

Devere's analysis in post #13 seems well aimed and on the mark. However, he is overlooking the basic element.

The basic power on any chat board is with the Moderators. The very word, "moderator", should be the key to their performance. They cannot be censors or oppressors of opinion]wisdom and nurturing of good moderators who make or break a chat board -- all else follows from this.

Devere's analysis in post #13 seems well aimed and on the mark. However, he is overlooking the basic element.

The basic power on any chat board is with the Moderators. The very word, "moderator", should be the key to their performance. They cannot be censors or oppressors of opinion]wisdom and nurturing of good moderators who make or break a chat board -- all else follows from this.

A very reasonable sounding post. . . . in theory. But in practice, has more holes than grandma's pin cushion. With all due respect to ya, B.B.

90,000 Stormfront "chattering activists" can't put 100 angry White men in the streets.

Great post.

It's great to see at least one more person who has a good grasp of the power of the Internet and the way to use it. The Internet is something we need to learn to use better, and fast. We need to increase our Internet presence, not decrease it. We need to make it interesting and cool, not straitjacket and sterile. Not only should we have interesting discussion boards like VNNF, but we should also have a pro-White myspaces, journals, blogs, media, etc. As underdogs, we should be imaginative. We should be innovating new venues to get our message out, and implementing them furiously. We should be keeping ahead of the curve. Instead we keep falling behind. We are stagnating. We are barely keeping up with new technology. And once again, we are wasting time explaining it to the dinosaurs. This conversation is so backwards and retrograde that it shouldn't even be happening.

The fact is, the people here who can't handle intelligent discussion, who can't tolerate other pro-White people with slightly different opinions, who want to manage the board with a heavy hand, and who want only their own narrow and dogmatic point of view repeated (over and over and over) on VNNF threads, are clueless relics of the past who can and will scuttle VNN before they realize the damage they've done. They cannot advance it, and ultimately they hold back our cause, whether they realize it or not. It's time to put the dinosaurs out to pasture.

Devere's analysis in post #13 seems well aimed and on the mark. However, he is overlooking the basic element.

The basic power on any chat board is with the Moderators. The very word, "moderator", should be the key to their performance. They cannot be censors or oppressors of opinion]wisdom and nurturing of good moderators who make or break a chat board -- all else follows from this.

Making Devere a moderator is a misallocation and waste of valuable resources. Devere adds the most value to this forum by allowing him to continue to create threads on economics and other topics that he has important things to say. Every hour he wastes approving newbie posts and performing like administrative drudgery is a loss to VNNF.

@Geoff:

The same goes for you. Your best role is doing radio shows and tech support. I know you're doing the best job you can, but it's clear to me that you allow some of the posters here to get under your skin, and that does no one any good. If you want some help in the task of moderating, ask me. I wasn't really looking for the job, but if I can be of service to VNNF, then I would like to help. I can set aside a couple hours a day assisting you with the busy work.

I might be interested in that, Geoff. Thanks. But we'd have to sort out the implications of my age. Having lived a fairly thoughtful six and a half decades is not necessarily an entirely bad thing -- and I am a young 64. Still, my point of view is going to reflect my life experiences -- which have been, by the sheer fact of my having lived through the major Kwa transition period of White into racial meltdown, very different from the life experience of a 27 year old.

If given my age, you still want to consider me as a mod, I'd want a day or two to think it over.

RE: Devere

I would&#8217]Brutus, let me just say first that you are one of the best posters and, not knowing you personally so as best as I can tell, one of the best men at VNN. And, of course, you are a clever and skilled cartoonist. And, on top of this, you are wise beyond your years (which I know is not 27) -- and a fine writer to boot. You are well appreciated here (Augustus Sutter notwithstanding -- though I also appreciate Augustus, he can be wrong).

As for me (this is in answer to one of Chain's posts too) and ossification, I don't think I have ossified -- except in the following sense: I arrived on earth ossified in a particular goal -- to pursue knowledge and truth wherever it might lead me. I happen to believe in reincarnation (I'm far from a Christian, Geoff) -- I have had a number of surprising (meaning shuddering tingles down spine) personal experiences that support my view. I know I came here to learn the truth of the world. Why I don't yet know.

When I was at UCLA in grad school as a young man, I took a test in the counseling department there because I was uncertain what career direction in life to take. It was a kind of personality profile indicating inclinations. The counselor told me I had scored higher in propensity to the intellectual than anyone he had seen. Note that this is different from the highest intelligence score (IQ) or the most tested accumulated knowledge he had seen. Essentially, the test indicated what I already knew -- that I had a yearning for knowledge and truth. I do think it is a uniquely genotypically Aryan yearning.

I think I have succeeded in my pursuit to some extent. I have learned different aspects of that truth at different times and stages of my life. The truth of the jew I learned late. The main reason I learned it late is that I thought an efficient source of truth to be college -- so I spent twelve years of my life in college, quite enjoyably accumulating three or four college degrees (depending on whether you count sub-degrees as full college degrees). Even though college in the 1960's was still Aryan in that freedom of thought and speech was still allowed and even encouraged (imagine that!) -- already, even then, college was precisely not the place to learn certain truths, such as the truth of the jew. And then, to further push off into the future that particular understanding, a brilliant (and I must say kind) 50 year old jew (and his family) became my mentor and I had a short series of jewish girlfriends, one of whom was his daughter. Don't be too horrified. Remember I swam innocently, alone (geographically separated from my own family), with no external guidance, in the intellectual world of jews -- and one thing leads to another in life (we create self-traps by our own decisions and chosen contexts). I was, from their point of view, a rather shy good-looking blue-eyed blond goy -- passively accepting, in the way of people, whoever came to me -- and, in retrospect, not surprisingly, it was jews. Jews like blonds, are attracted like moths to them -- even while they genocidally hate them.

The result of my jew-phase was an inoculation via subtle indoctrination against the possibility of the jew as our enemy. (Of course, realize there was no internet or personal computers for most of my life -- and, though George Lincoln Rockwell gave a speech at William Pierce's college in 1966, he never came to one of my colleges. And anyway, take care not to judge people of other eras by what some of us know today.)

I think I'll stop this little biography -- keeping it little -- there. Suffice it to say, I know jews (insofar as few represents many) on a personal basis from the inside out.

 

Great post.

It's great to see at least one more person who has a good grasp of the power of the Internet and the way to use it. The Internet is something we need to learn to use better, and fast. We need to increase our Internet presence, not decrease it. We need to make it interesting and cool, not straitjacket and sterile. Not only should we have interesting discussion boards like VNNF, but we should also have a pro-White myspaces, journals, blogs, media, etc. As underdogs, we should be imaginative. We should be innovating new venues to get our message out, and implementing them furiously. We should be keeping ahead of the curve. Instead we keep falling behind. We are stagnating. We are barely keeping up with new technology. And once again, we are wasting time explaining it to the dinosaurs. This conversation is so backwards and retrograde that it shouldn't even be happening.

The fact is, the people here who can't handle intelligent discussion, who can't tolerate other pro-White people with slightly different opinions, who want to manage the board with a heavy hand, and who want only their own narrow and dogmatic point of view repeated (over and over and over) on VNNF threads, are clueless relics of the past who can and will scuttle VNN before they realize the damage they've done. They cannot advance it, and ultimately they hold back our cause, whether they realize it or not. It's time to put the dinosaurs out to pasture.

And this from a man who hasn't, and won't, even order a few VNN business cards to pass out, much less contribute financially or distribute WN newspapers.

Talk is cheap. Action counts. So put up or shut up.

Nothing personal btw, just stating simple logic.

Making Devere a moderator is a misallocation and waste of valuable resources. Devere adds the most value to this forum by allowing him to continue to create threads on economics and other topics that he has important things to say. Every hour he wastes approving newbie posts and performing like administrative drudgery is a loss to VNNF.

@Geoff:

The same goes for you. Your best role is doing radio shows and tech support. I know you're doing the best job you can, but it's clear to me that you allow some of the posters here to get under your skin, and that does no one any good. If you want some help in the task of moderating, ask me. I wasn't really looking for the job, but if I can be of service to VNNF, then I would like to help. I can set aside a couple hours a day assisting you with the busy work.

Thanks, Mike, for your insight. I really don't know what being a moderator entails. Probably, it would be best for me to remain a poster -- that may well be my most useful role.

Well now Paul, the bosses ain't always right, but the bosses are always the bosses.

Also, when ya dance, you gotta pay the fiddler. Something you haven't done in quite a spell, though you keep on a dancin.

I will never have so much as a red cent for a man who thinks he has the right to give my home away to spics. When the "fiddler" plays "The Miller Plan", it ain't my tune.
As far as my "dancin" is concerned, I will continue to post here as much as I like. - At least until your "bosses" ban *me*, at which time I'll go quietly. In any case, they'll never be MY bosses.

I will never have so much as a red cent for a man who thinks he has the right to give my home away to spics. When the "fiddler" plays "The Miller Plan", it ain't my tune.
As far as my "dancin" is concerned, I will continue to post here as much as I like. - At least until your "bosses" ban *me*, at which time I'll go quietly. In any case, they'll never be MY bosses.

Look around you, Paul. The "spics" already have your Arizona "home". They just let you pay taxes on it. You'll be much happier living in the northwest. So send me some freakin money so I can make it happen and I'll take you off my "aw shit" list while singing "The Miller Plan" to ya.

Besides, your alibi "bucket" don't hold water.

Alex first has to learn how to apologize to friends and allies, and apparently he hasn't learned that skill yet.

He's a writer, though, not a diplomat/politician.

I'm a "diplomat/politician." You're a "politician by other means." :cheers:

It's impossible to prove beyond a reasonable doubt who the jews are on here. Or to prove who the crypto anti's are.

When I ran the WPP, I knew that lots of infiltrators attended our meetings, rallies, and marches, but it was impossible to prove who they were. And so I just constantly warned everybody at meetings and in our newspaper to be aware of the fact]

The majority of people in this "movement" want nothing to do with you , you do understand that and the reasons for it, right? ive got my mates and we do okay without your newspaper. If your calling me an anti, I find that laughable. I'd say your begging for some "freakin money" is more jewish then anything else Ive seen here (with a few exceptions, of course). Ive spent my EARNED (i dont get cheques from my government, like some people) money on activisms in my country & abroad, but again, you will never see a dime from me (and not only because of the rat bit, but also because when people didnt send you money while you were begging, you start calling people "jews", ever heard that saying whoever smelt it most likely dealt it?).

I apologise to everyone else for going off topic, Ive had my say & it wont happen again.

Cheers! :cheers:

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Look around you, Paul. The "spics" already have your Arizona "home". They just let you pay taxes on it. You'll be much happier living in the northwest. So send me some freakin money so I can make it happen and I'll take you off my "aw shit" list while singing "The Miller Plan" to ya.

Besides, your alibi "bucket" don't hold water.

Your "aw shit" list amounts to nothing to me.
Neither does your opinion of my reasoning.
You will never have my support and THAT you can take to the bank.

The majority of people in this "movement" want nothing to do with you , you do understand that and the reasons for it, right?

MILLER: "Movement ???" The only movement "most of them" engage in is finger tip push-ups on their computer keyboards, like you. They not only want nothing to with me, they don't want anything to do with any WN activist because they're too yellow for the association.

ive got my mates and we do okay without your newspaper.

MILLER: Oh yeah what's that, whispering to each other behind closed doors and anonymously in cyber space ??

If your calling me an anti, I find that laughable. I'd say your begging for some "freakin money" is more jewish then anything else Ive seen here (with a few exceptions, of course).

MILLER: You're not only an anti, you're a GD parasite proven by the fact you've been on here for years and never contributed one dime or distributed one newspaper or VNN calling card. That alone, proves you're an anti, in my book.

Ive spent my EARNED (i dont get cheques from my government, like some people) money on activisms in my country & abroad, but again, you will never see a dime from me (and not only because of the rat bit, but also because when people didnt send you money while you were begging, you start calling people "jews", ever heard that saying whoever smelt it most likely dealt it?).

MILLER: I've never called anyone a jew because they refused to contribute financially. So show where I did, or else admit you lied. My military retirement check was earned by 20 years in the US Army.

You're just a cheap, lazy, yellow piece of lying punk shit making excuses not to do shit for, or contribute shit to, the "movement" you have the idiotic gall to claim being part of.

I apologise to everyone else for going off topic, Ive had my say & it wont happen again.

MILLER: You're lying. It will happen again. Why ?? Because you're an irresponsible punk and you don't know any better. And apologies by parasites mean neaseating doodily squat.

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