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The Demographic Future Of The World
Is Much Bleaker For Non-Whites Than Our People -- Despite White Nationalist Hysterics

10/30/2005 12:32:11 AM
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Bill White

Commentary by Bill White-- Recently, I picked up a copy of the Aryan Alternative #3, VNN's publication, because I figured with all the attention its getting, it was worth checking out. Issue #3 is better than Issue #2 -- Issue #2 called for the expulsion of the Irish from the United States as "non-white". Given that the Irish, during the period they gained their reputation for being "non-white" and "pagan", were probably actually whiter and more in touch with their Aryan roots than the English whose society had broken down into Protestant heresy and Enlightenment decadence, such criticisms seem as bizarre to me as the half-mad ravings of Richard Barrett against "Slavs. It is as if white nationalism attracts people who, in the complete absence of any historical knowledge, want to compete in making ridiculous ethnic assertions in an effort to seem more "extreme" in their racism. After all, while there is a real and obvious fundamental difference between the civilizations of the Slavs, the Irish and the English on one side, and the continuing absence of civilization in black Africa on the other -- a difference as great as, say, that between the mighty oak and a bit of fungus growing on a piece of dead wood -- there differences between the Slavs, the Irish and the English are more that of different branches sprouting from the same tree. On difference represents a fundamental opposition of natures, whereas the other represents a "diversity" that can truly be cherished as different manifestations of the same great root.
All of this leads me to the topic of this essay. In the latest Aryan Alternative I read that there are 600 million whites left on Earth and that the number is diminishing, while, according to the author, there should be about 1.2 billion whites. The figures puzzle me, since the white population of the Earth, last time I counted it, using a CIA fact book with the populations of the world's nations and their break down by ethnicity, was approximately 1 billion, with about 600 - 700 million blacks, 700 - 800 million Latinos, some random minor peoples, and about 3 billion Asians, including one point some billion East Asians, around one billion South Asians, and the rest living in the Middle Eastern (Arab, Persian, etc) world.So I wonder how people can determine that there are only 600 million whites in the world, when, subtracting the white population of the US (207 million or more and the white population of Russia (132-ish million) -- just two nations -- you've already accounted for more than half of that figure. Throw in Germany (80 million whites), France (54 million plus whites) and Britain (54 million plus whites), and you've hit 524 million, without even starting to talk about medium sized white nations like Canada (30 million whites), Spain (40 million whites), Italy (55 million plus whites), Poland (40 million whites), the Ukraine (45 plus million whites), smaller nations like Ireland (4 million whites), Sweden (9 million whites), Belgium (27 million plus whites), and "whites who live in the Diaspora" like South Africa (4.5 million whites), Mexico (10 million whites), and Bolivia (12 million whites). In fact, if you believe the figures put out by nations like Brazil, which claims 93 million citizens of primarily white, non-indigenous, non-African, non-mixed race descent, whites could be substantially more than the one billion I estimated.
When I see these actual trends and these actual figures and compare them to the figures put out by some of the over-the-top elements of the white nationalist movement I wonder what they are panicking about. While it is true the United States is suffering from a Third World immigration problem -- the problem is exactly that, one of immigration, not reproduction. And while Europe is suffering from a much lesser immigration problem -- the problem over there is exactly that as well -- immigration, not reproduction. Non-whites are not mixing with whites and reproducing in any numbers that threaten the continuing existence of the white race. In stark contrast, its the black race that is most threatened with extinction at this point in time. Blacks are shrinking in number, at times dramatically, in Africa, primarily due to AIDS. Blacks have always had the smallest population of any racial group in the world. Their population growth in the late 19th and 20th centuries was fueled entirely by white colonialism and investment in their countries; without white colonialism, they are seeing their populations diminish. In Africa, every black nation is facing disease, starvation and rates of mortality that they haven't seen in decades. Entire areas of black nations -- and, in some cases, entire black nations -- face a threat to their existence. Botswana, for instance, is predicted to disappear as its entire population dies of AIDS. Rhodesia has been suffering the early stages of famine since its appropriation of white farms. And South Africa, where AIDS will increase the white population from one tenth of the population to one ninth of the population in the next ten years alone, has proven that the natural inability of black people is much more a spark of genocide than any policy any apartheid or racist government ever had the courage to impose.
Internationally, the white race is doing as well as the Chinese or the Indian. There is no chance of it disappearing in the near future. So why do we read such dire predictions in white publications?
I can think of two reasons. One is that there are people who like to create panic when no panic is due. They like to see the white race as weak, when it is not. The Jews spread the lie of a weakened white race in danger of extinction as part of their campaign of anti-white psychological warfare; too many whites have internalized this Jewish view. And immigration is creating major shifts in population that give the appearance that non-white populations are growing, when, really, they are just being displaced.
The second, and probably more appropriate to the discussion of Vanguard News Network's views, is the ridiculous exclusion of white people from the white race that some white nationalists feel the need to engage in. If you want to define the white race as only those of Germanic (English-German- Nordic) descent, then there are probably only 200 million or so "whites" left in the world -- which makes them comparable to any other ethnic-national sub grouping of the other major races. If you want to exclude "Slavs" from the definition of "white", you can do as Richard Barrett does count the entire population of the countries that were once behind the Iron Curtain as "non- white", regardless of whether they are actually "Slavs", or, say, Germans who settled in Russia, Lithuanians, Livonians, et cetera, and then give a substantially reduced number for "whites". Now, I admit that I view the official demographic figures of Brazil with some suspicion, as the little I've seen of Brazil doesn't seem to indicate much of a "white" population, and I know the tendency of residents of Latin countries who are mestizo to exaggerate their "white" heritage, but then again I've never been there and perhaps, if there are 93 million whites living there, I should. But the fact that there are some populations that consider themselves "white" that might be better described as something else (the US government says the US population is 81.3% white, but includes Mexican and Latin / South American mestizos in that figure), does not make the exclusion of obviously white nations appropriate.
After all, what does it mean to be white? The heritage that white people share goes much deeper than biology, ethnicity, or skin color. We have a common root civilization. We share linguistic, religious and cultural- traditional roots. Our nations are different manifestations of the same spirit. And it is that spiritual unity -- the unity of Aryan Tradition -- that brings us back together, where a few dozen generations of family ties have separated us into nations and ethnicities.
So what does a level headed analysis of world wide demographics foretell the world's race? What it predicts is the extermination of the black race in the manner which the mixing of races exterminated the majority of the indigenous peoples of the Americas.
The black race in the United States is slowly ceasing to be black, as it is absorbed into the majority white population and transformed into a new race of mixed black-white mulattos. Coupled with the literal dying off of the black peoples of Africa, one can see developing, globally, a situation where the majority of "blacks" become the partially white mulattos of African America, with their black ancestors dwindling until the "pure" black race is left as a curious minority among their own people. Race-mixing in the US has taken a much stronger toll on black genetics than on white; one could theoretically see a time when the mulattos become so mixed with whites that their "black" ancestry becomes a remote memory -- something which has become completely genetically absorbed.
One only has to look at the indigenous Indians of North and South America to see how that process plays out. There are very few Indians in the United States who are not mostly white. Even whites who claim mixed Indian descent cannot usually claim more than an eighth or perhaps a quarter Indian blood. Similarly, in Latin countries, mestizos -- mixed white-indigenous or black- indigenous peoples -- have essentially exterminated the pure-blooded native populations. Now, while the Latin mestizo cannot be mistaken for white -- they have actually become a distinct race of their own -- they also cannot be mistaken for indigenous -- and thus the mixture of the two populations has left a half-white race, a white race, and nothing else -- and, perhaps most significantly, a white race that is capable numerically, if it would ever want to, of breeding the half-white race back into whiteness.
So the demographic trends which are so depressing in the United States, and the upsurge of non-white racist government and racial persecution that has become common in South Africa, Rhodesia, and other former white colonies, is not a question of genetic failure to reproduce, but psychological failure to instill in white people a proper sense of themselves and a proper sense of value. Those white nationalists who continue to spread hysteria, instead of moving forward with confidence in the eventual triumph of our people and our world order, sabotage the white cause. The white race is neither weak nor dying. We have spent a few generations in remission, but that has not endangered our survival or put us in a place where we cannot reconquer the world if we so choose.

Bill White Quotes Concerning White Nationalists

"I am not part of the white nationalist movement because white nationalism has nothing to do with the real betterment of white people - by and large. If I were to become part of them I would then be subject to judgement by their norms, and in all cases, because I am not a miserable failure or misguided as most of the self-defined members are, I would not be properly accepted?"
"I would be real upset about the losers, paranoid freaks and megalomanic self-appointed "elitist" weirdos in the "movement," if it wasn't for the fact that I am not part of the "movement," and thus am totally immune to any repercussions of their peculiar behavior."
"?white nationalism deserves to fail because the people involved in it are too stupid to deserve success, whether that be in their personal lives or their private lives. White nationalism is held back by the freaks defectives, and professional ignoramouses that make up not just its leadership, but much of its rank and file. I am not a white nationalist primarily because I would never want to be lumped in with the idiots who are."
"Most of the white nationalists who are in operation are miserable failures, both personally and professionally. You have petty criminals, porn hustlers, men who live with their mothers, men who can't hold jobs, women with four kids from four different fathers, etc. These folk range from liars to drinkers to thieves to grown men who are still playing at being in "gangs" to the whole list of dysfunctional and deservedly socially rejected people. I can understand playing at being a part of a subculture when you are 14 or 18 or even 21, but if you are 25 or 29 or in your 30's or more, and you are still trying to be "cool" by anyone's standards, you need to grow up."
"I hope most folk out there turn away from the losers and lowlifes of the white nationalist movement and look for constructive ways to build up first themselves, and then their communities."

"I don't like the white nationalist "movement" as a "movement"; it has the same decadent form of either of the two major political parties."

"I'm not a part of fantasy politics. I'm not a National Alliance member because I don't want to play at being a Nazi, and I have no desire to subject myself organizationally to people who aren't competent to judge me."

"?the idiot game that communists and Nazis play fighting each other, just provide more examples of just how idiotic these political fringe fantasies can get. I just want to let both sides know, however, that I'm not part of it. There is a reason you've never been comfortable with my website or my politics, and its not because I'm part of the other side. The reason I make you so angry is because I am above you, I am watching you, and I am mocking you because you are incompetent. I'm not "on the other team" I'm more of the sportscaster commenting except that unlike the sportscasters on TV, I hate both teams, and the reason people tune in is to listen to me rag on both of you.

"Just like there are people who's sport is football, my sport is fringe politics."

"If someone can name one white nationalist leader or commentator who is gainfully emplyed or who has a history of having built any kind of successful organization in any field, please let me know - outside of the conservative fringe of white nationalism, those people don't exist."

1) Why air in a public forum

2) When will the drama end?

The sooner we work together, the quicker ZOG will come to an end. Even if you don't like someone who is pro-white, think of our race before putting gas on a fire. Otherwise, you're putting yourself first.

Bill White is using the journalism style of the mainstream media where he mixes truth with falsehoods. Take for instance

The black race in the United States is slowly ceasing to be black, as it is absorbed into the majority white population and transformed into a new race of mixed black-white mulattos.

Partly true.
By removing the words in red it becomes a true and interesting statement.

The black race in the United States is slowly ceasing to be black, as it is transformed into a new race of mixed black-white mulattos.

Read him the same way you read a mainstream newspaper. Never let down your guard. :box:

1) Why air in a public forum

2) When will the drama end?

The sooner we work together, the quicker ZOG will come to an end. Even if you don't like someone who is pro-white, think of our race before putting gas on a fire. Otherwise, you're putting yourself first.

Obviously from reading the above article Bill White is not pro-white.

After reading that article of his opinion of TAA it is my opinion that he is a problem like the jew news media... not a solution for WN.

Race-mixing in the US has taken a much stronger toll on black genetics than on white]

That's exactly what we don't want, you jackass!

He makes it look as if this is a good thing and will solve our problem. What a fool.

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1) Why air in a public forum

2) When will the drama end?

The sooner we work together, the quicker ZOG will come to an end. Even if you don't like someone who is pro-white, think of our race before putting gas on a fire. Otherwise, you're putting yourself first.

1.) It is Movement News and this is a News Network Forum. It's reality in the real world of White Nationalism. We need to know who is doing what and what their agenda is so that we can take action in an accurate way rather than the imprudence shown by Bill White the Communist turned Brownshirt. Bill White was a Communist Activist who marched for Queers Special Rights and Hand in Hand with transexuals. Bill White the Anarchist and Libertarian national Socialist has completely led a heresy of National Socialism. The Green party Nazi's of Nazi.org have made a mockery of everything we stand for. The leadership of Bill White Nazi Green Libertarian Jew Queer Loving Rights Party has done devestating Racial Damage. He even encouraged a deranged indian kid to go shoot all kinds of people at a high school on his message board. He is a danger to White Nationalism that must be Condemned, it my responsibility as a White Man to strongly Condemn that which is harmful to the White race. He should be held accountable if atleast in the White Nationalist Media. The truth is our only defense against corruption. The more aware people are the more strength we have as a racial movement. Those who more accurately represent our True Cause to establish a White Nation exclusively for White Citizens will be better able to have the truth heard when the big fat commie mouth is no longer ranting in their ears with nonsense.

2.) When will the drama End ?

Why were you the first to jump a post in and bump this thread FS88 ?

You have the icon of a jew loving race traitor on your avatar.

If you support Bill White then explain his line of shit and convince me it's truthful or else ask yourself what you're doing here ?

Do you believe what Bill White Weisse wrote or is he full of shit, you tell me your opinion rather than attack the messenger. Are you one of the VNN people Bill White was talking about that are fake activists and if so why should I waste time on what you think ? Maybe you're one of his faggots he marched with before he joined up with the NSM or is there any difference ? The Communist Red turned Nazi Brown calls himself the Red Brown Alliance, what does that say to you ?

Want me to interview you as representative of Bill Whites loyal fanbase at overthrow.com ? I have lots of questions. Bill White fuels this by continuing to issue inflammatory articles against True National Socialists and White Nationalists on his website. He's trying to divide and conquer us for the ZOG is my suspicion. Or else for his own pocket, he's so rich and has $$$ 2 million dollars then why isn't he buying TAA or making a new magazine to compete. He could buy WN it's own printing press for free speech. If I knew of a place with $$$ 2 million dollars I could get for the Movement I'd send everyone some it. You would see a difference in a day. He's a saboteur and not a very good one, he's been revealed.

Now watch and see if his puppet names come out to defend him and attack us further or hide in the shadows with the jew anti-whites. None of them seem to want to come out of the gate when the ravens are circling do they ?

Bill White Quotes Concerning White Nationalists

"I am not part of the white nationalist movement because white nationalism has nothing to do with the real betterment of white people - by and large. If I were to become part of them I would then be subject to judgement by their norms, and in all cases, because I am not a miserable failure or misguided as most of the self-defined members are, I would not be properly accepted?"

"I would be real upset about the losers, paranoid freaks and megalomanic self-appointed "elitist" weirdos in the "movement," if it wasn't for the fact that I am not part of the "movement," and thus am totally immune to any repercussions of their peculiar behavior."

"?white nationalism deserves to fail because the people involved in it are too stupid to deserve success, whether that be in their personal lives or their private lives. White nationalism is held back by the freaks defectives, and professional ignoramouses that make up not just its leadership, but much of its rank and file. I am not a white nationalist primarily because I would never want to be lumped in with the idiots who are."

"Most of the white nationalists who are in operation are miserable failures, both personally and professionally. You have petty criminals, porn hustlers, men who live with their mothers, men who can't hold jobs, women with four kids from four different fathers, etc. These folk range from liars to drinkers to thieves to grown men who are still playing at being in "gangs" to the whole list of dysfunctional and deservedly socially rejected people. I can understand playing at being a part of a subculture when you are 14 or 18 or even 21, but if you are 25 or 29 or in your 30's or more, and you are still trying to be "cool" by anyone's standards, you need to grow up."

"I hope most folk out there turn away from the losers and lowlifes of the white nationalist movement and look for constructive ways to build up first themselves, and then their communities."

"I don't like the white nationalist "movement" as a "movement"]Nazi, and I have no desire to subject myself organizationally to people who aren't competent to judge me."

"?the idiot game that communists and Nazis play fighting each other, just provide more examples of just how idiotic these political fringe fantasies can get. I just want to let both sides know, however, that I'm not part of it. There is a reason you've never been comfortable with my website or my politics, and its not because I'm part of the other side. The reason I make you so angry is because I am above you, I am watching you, and I am mocking you because you are incompetent. I'm not "on the other team" I'm more of the sportscaster commenting except that unlike the sportscasters on TV, I hate both teams, and the reason people tune in is to listen to me rag on both of you.

"Just like there are people who's sport is football, my sport is fringe politics."

"If someone can name one white nationalist leader or commentator who is gainfully employed or who has a history of having built any kind of successful organization in any field, please let me know - outside of the conservative fringe of white nationalism, those people don't exist."

The black race in the United States is slowly ceasing to be black, as it is absorbed into the majority white population and transformed into a new race of mixed black-white mulattos. Coupled with the literal dying off of the black peoples of Africa, one can see developing, globally, a situation where the majority of "blacks" become the partially white mulattos of African America, with their black ancestors dwindling until the "pure" black race is left as a curious minority among their own people. Race-mixing in the US has taken a much stronger toll on black genetics than on white; one could theoretically see a time when the mulattos become so mixed with whites that their "black" ancestry becomes a remote memory -- something which has become completely genetically absorbed.

Hey dipshit, even an octaroon is considered black by nigger standards. When whites mix with blacks the resulting offspring is a nigger, regardless if its light skinned or dark skinned. The toll the white race has taken has been much heavier when you consider every time a miscegenated woman gives birth to a half-nigger mutant she is contributing to the destruction of our European heritage. The half-nigger mutant has no great culture of its own to celebrate, so it proceeds to help tear down all that is great and white. The black ancestry doesn't become a "remote memory", it becomes the foremost reality, especially when jews and blacks constantly promote that "black is cool" and "white is whack".

After reading this latest piece of sociological mumbo-jumbo I'm convinced bw's mission is to mislead and misinform WN's. The plan for the final genocide of our people is unfolding and bw is telling us this is not happening, that its all just hysterics. There's nothing more misleading you could tell a potential recruit. Bill White is a commie. I don't understand why anyone takes this guy seriously.

Everything said here seems to be more stabs into the back of white nationalists.

Same old black flag operations as usual are being printed here.

I see no change in attitude.

Rape the White Nationalist movement.

Sweet, guys. You are a bunch of traitors.

In White Article paragraph 3 he states that America's problem is one of immigration & not reproduction. Apparently White has never heard of the carrying capacity of an acre of land. Land can only sustain so much life & if more & more of that life is illegal aliens, then by definition less native i.e. White life can be nurtured. Our problem is a combined one of BOTH elements immigration & reproduction. I would never march under this banner of his.

Further in this paragraph he maintains that it is the blacks who're bearing the heaviest cost through intermixxing & if I capture the essence correctly the guy BillW of NSM advocates Whites mixxing with niggers to destroy the nigger population! Wow! Genius. Not with my daughter.

In paragraph 4 he asserts that India & China are doing no better than Whites are. I dunno. China makes so many kids that they export babies & plant the Chinese seed all over the planet. Besides, his short term prediction & attitude is the EXACT KIND OF APPROACH that the capitalists have taken to our White peoples' detriment with the outsourcing of labor & capital to furthest reaches of the world.

There are more defects in this guy's snake oil but my wife keeps coming in & yelling at me so I gotta wrap it up soon. He is right about one thing & that is he is not a WN. His views are instructive & I have been forewarned.

To espouse mixxing with niggers to eradicate the nigger race is absolute insanity. If NSM believes that,......duly noted.

Bill White is using the journalism style of the mainstream media where he mixes truth with falsehoods.

Great insight.

Can I ask what is so upsetting about the news that the white race might not be in danger of imminent extinction?

I also note that this thread was started by a disgruntled NSM member, whom we expelled from our group for cowardice and disloyalty, and who now works with Citizens Against Hate, among other organizations -- i.e., Warren Scott Robbins.

I don't know everyone supporting it offhand, but I do note that a lot of CAH people -- RevPatrick, ctknott, etc -- and a lot of ex-NSM members, seem to constitute the bulk of the NSM's opposition on this board.

Can I ask what is so upsetting about the news that the white race might not be in danger of imminent extinction?

I also note that this thread was started by a disgruntled NSM member, whom we expelled from our group for cowardice and disloyalty, and who now works with Citizens Against Hate, among other organizations -- i.e., Warren Scott Robbins.

I don't know everyone supporting it offhand, but I do note that a lot of CAH people -- RevPatrick, ctknott, etc -- and a lot of ex-NSM members, seem to constitute the bulk of the NSM's opposition on this board.

Can I ask what is so upsetting about the news that the white race might not be in danger of imminent extinction?

No ones upset, in fact we're thrilled because you've proven that you're no where near being a White Nationalist. You're wrong and it's so obvious I couldn't ask for a better demonstration.

I also note that this thread was started by a disgruntled NSM member, whom we expelled from our group for cowardice and disloyalty, and who now works with Citizens Against Hate, among other organizations -- i.e., Warren Scott Robbins.

Wrong again, Bill White was NOT a member of the NSM during the time that Scott Robbins RESIGNED, get that Bill RESIGNED ? You have no first hand knowledge of anything as you infer in your statements. A person who RESIGNS can not be Discharged 3 months later. The NSM is well known for it's smear campaigns after people RESIGN.

I don't know everyone supporting it offhand, but I do note that a lot of CAH people -- RevPatrick, ctknott, etc -- and a lot of ex-NSM members, seem to constitute the bulk of the NSM's opposition on this board.

Everyone who knows the truth about the NSM and Bill White is your resistance and it's growing faster than the NSM membership. The WNN led by the X-NSM members was founded over 18 months ago and has more members than the NSM does. They even have their own Valhallas Youth made up of Kids who quit the NSM and joined the real X Members. We don't care what you say anymore, the NSM is over. You're not a White Nationalist and I proved it with your own words, anything the people say now is A okay because they're attacking Bill White known infiltrator of White Nationalism who is a self admitted race traitor and promotes Race-Mixing. You're finished Bill Weisse, I wasn't even allowed to call you a jew or b_LEVINS but I still got your asses, VNN would censor me for calling you a jew outright, but now that you've admitted to not being a White Nationalist I think it's probably allowed.

littleapesmother said to Bill White-

...VNN would ban me for calling you a jew outright...

Please. Don't undermine the rest of the points you wish to make with readers.

We were asked by Antiochus Epiphanes not to call b-LEVINS a jew and he locked a thread where the insults were being thrown my way. You were out doing a great job distributing TAA's across country or something. Welcome back. I didn't even call him a jew but a Melungeon DNA test site with information on the name b-LEVINS. That was enough to get it locked so I thought it was off limits from that point on to call him a jew since then and he has now claimed he had a DNA test to prove it. Even b-LEVINS was suspicious of his own blood and surname enough to have a DNA test so he says. I wouldn't have ever asked him to get a DNA TEST but b-LEVINS was more suspicious of jew blood in himself than I was.

Who knows better than himself, right ?

So far VNN has allowed Free Speech and I thank them, I also like to think pushing the limits some helped to get us a better forum, don't you ?

If I recall correctly- and I am sure I will be corrected if wrong- Von Bluvens has openly stated, on this very board, his admixture percentage.

In any case, you won't be banned for calling Bill White a Jew. Or anybody else, including me-- but I could show (your authorized female verification representative) my uncut cock. LOL