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:eek: Hide your eyes gurls!


 
Posted : 08/11/2005 4:00 pm
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I never had a DNA test done. Where did you get that from?



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Posted : 08/11/2005 8:43 pm
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Now you deny the DNA TEST ? Chris Drake NSM Georgia Unit defended you and told everyone you had a DNA test to prove you were white because you have your own suspicions about your racial heritage. The Melungeon DNA laboratory.


Mike b-LEVINS ... before joining the NSM

Mike b-LEVINS
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Quote : Chris Drake NSM Georgia Unit : "A buddy just called my attention to this thread. First off, I'm not RoguePostman. The screen name "Christopher Drake" should clue you in to how much I care about staying nameless on the internet. Given, VNN is a good place to stay nameless, so Rogue, I don't blame you, whoever you are. I frankly don't know.

I'm curious on a few things. How did you know Von was Scottish? We just got back the DNA/geneology project results the other day. Von had never had it done and thought it was a good idea in case any of the jew's alligations ever tried to stick. The only surprise we had was when it turned out that Von had a lot of English blood. I'm curious as to how you knew about the Scottish part. Needless to say there are no non-white in Von's line. We're prepared to put that to bed officially if necessary.

This is where it was reported by the NSM that b-LEVINS had to go have a DNA test and they were prepared to release the results and put it all to bed. We're still waiting.
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Posted : 08/11/2005 9:59 pm
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Issue #2 called for the expulsion of the Irish from the United States as "non-white".

VNN published something that said that? I happen to be 100% Irish, my family coming over here in the early 1900's, and my ancestors marrying nothing but fellow Irish after arriving, am I not considered white to VNN? This is disturbing if true. Where can I see a copy of that publication?


 
Posted : 08/11/2005 11:18 pm
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VNN published something that said that? I happen to be 100% Irish, my family coming over here in the early 1900's, and my ancestors marrying nothing but fellow Irish after arriving, am I not considered white to VNN? This is disturbing if true. Where can I see a copy of that publication?

Its not exactly true, but they did speak of an "Irish Question" and said it was still an open question, and expressed regret that immigration of Non-WASPS was permitted, and expressed symapthy for the Anti-White Immigration "Know Nothing" party of the mid 19th Century (The US would now be 85%-90% NW if it had not. How many of you in the US have even met a fullblooded WASP in real life?)
Obviously if the same terminology is used for the Irish as the Jews, its unsettling to say the least


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Posted : 08/11/2005 11:42 pm
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What is this, SF? Why was my post attacking the Anti-White hate against Meds posted by littleaopesmother deleted?
I repeat, White may not be trustworthy, but his figures are accurate, and littleapesmothers hysterical proclamation that there are only 500 million Whites in the world is absurd. There are an easy 400 million plus Whites in the US and former USSR alone
And what of these fairy tales of racial mixture in Spain and Columbus being a Jew flooding Southern Spain with Amerinds?
AGAIN I POST MY CHALLENGE UNANSWERED FOR 5 YEARS POST A SINGLE PIC OF A NATIVE SOUTHERN EURO EVINCING RACIAL ADMIXTURE<,AND DESCRIBE THE NW RACIAL TRAITS THEREON USING THE STANDARDS OF DR COON. 5 FUCKING YEARS OF SILENCE I AM STILL WAITING PUT UP OR STUF I DARE YOU!


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Posted : 08/11/2005 11:51 pm
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5 FUCKING YEARS OF SILENCE I AM STILL WAITING PUT UP OR STUF I DARE YOU!

I already that on my thread "White people in the Latin World" and you admit it did but you still disagree.

Anyone who thinks Tom Araya is white is not a WN.


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Posted : 09/11/2005 3:55 am
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I already that on my thread "White people in the Latin World" and you admit it did but you still disagree.

Anyone who thinks Tom Araya is white is not a WN.

Araya is not from Europe, Stop jewspeaking, I never said that there were not Meds in diaspora that had mixed with Non-Whites
Araya appeared White as a young man. With age, racial mixture sometimes appears. The call was made, as are all calls, based strictly upon the evidence that was availiable at the time. Im not afraid to change my opinion if sufficent evidence is presented to warrant a change
Besides, if not accepting one-droppery means you are not a WN, read the Nurenberg Laws. That must mean NS Germany goes too


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Posted : 09/11/2005 6:54 am
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Bill White joined Mike Levins aka Von Bluvens and Frank Weltner aka "Couchie" and threw his best shot at VNN. From where I was it looked as if Bill White hits like a sissy. All the points he made were borrowed from the leftists rags. If we sit here at VNN top of the propaganda pile and defeat every passing kike and wannabe Anti then what makes Bill White think he can play their same tactics and get better results. Angry Aryans are about and on their way to Kingston. Victory or Valhalla !

The Demographic Future Of The World
Is Much Bleaker For Non-Whites Than Our People -- Despite White Nationalist Hysterics

10/30/2005 12:32:11 AM
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Commentary by Bill White-- Recently, I picked up a copy of the Aryan Alternative #3, VNN's publication, because I figured with all the attention its getting, it was worth checking out. {Bill White assigns value to things based on their ability to attract attention.} Issue #3 is better thanblahblahblahblahCensus states that there were 700 million whites and 700 million non-whites in the world at that time. ( 50/50) There are now 500 million whites, meaning we have shrunk by 200 million people. Meanwhile the non-white MUDDS of the world have exploded to outnumber us by nearly 6 billion people. (5.9 billion difference) The most recent assesment of this is that they're growing so fast we can't correctly record the #'s of non-whites, by the time it is measured and results recorded the results are already outdated. Estimates reach at 6.4 Billion people at the moment and growing like a forest fire. The more there are the faster it will grow in intensity to consume the entire white world.} The figures puzzle me, since the white population of the Earth, last time I counted it, using a CIA fact book with the populations of the world's nations and their break down by ethnicity, was approximately 1 billion, with about 600 - 700 million blacks, 700 - 800 million Latinos, some random minor peoples, and about 3 billion Asians, including one point some billion East Asians, around one billion South Asians, and the rest living in the Middle Eastern (Arab, Persian, etc) world. {What year is your CIA Factbook? Your CIA uses guys like you so obviously they are as wrong as you are for using ZOGs own figures. Bill White does not even believe in ZOG or he would never trust ZOGs own propaganda as Facts to bring to white people as truth. No matter, he has caused harm by posting lies from ZOG and their covert Fact Books to mislead whites into supporting the misinformation of ZOG and repeating it like a Bill White cult mantra. No wonder you're puzzled Bill, it's designed to drive you insane the more you read it looking for the truth.}

So I wonder how people can determine that there are only 600 million whites in the world, when, subtracting the white population of the US (207 million or more) {The US Govt census counts non-whites as Whites and accounts for it as 73% white, in reality it is much less that that and here's why. Mexican illegal aliens and the other "Hispanics" are allowed to count themselves as White and so is anyone else because the census worker doesn't know or care what you are. What we could say about this is how Outrageously it supports our findings that there are a bunch of wetbacks and even wannabe whites running around claiming to be white on government questionaires. The ZOG wants whites to dismiss any threats against our race because they're part of the problem. The longer whites sit by and do nothing the easier it is for them, ZOG would like to conceal all of this because the strongest appeal to White Nationalists at the beginning is the threat to their own survival as a good enough reason to fight. We have many more reasons but at the surface the jew believes we are brainwashed into this. Bill White is brainwashed by the lies of jews, Whites who support Freedom and Survival for their Race are very aware of the truth, Bill White is exposed as a non-believer by his own words describing his disbelief that our race is at risk. If our race isn't at risk Bill why are you here trying to organize us? To help you get rich off the sweat of our own people ? Why not just become a judeo-christian preacher if that's your case. Do you think Anthony Pierpoint is white Bill White ? What do you suspect Anthony put as his heritage on the US Census ? Along with millions much darker than he was. You say 600 million but my findings are even less, 500 million at best and shrinking, When this generation of elderly passes the #'s of whites will drop so dramatically it will register but it may be to late when that comes. If the elderly in Europe and America die off the white population is likely to drop by half in a short time. As we shrink the enemy grows and any time they can launch an attack against us. We must not lose for lack of preparation.} and the white population of Russia (132-ish million) -- just two nations -- you've already accounted for more than half of that figure. Throw in Germany (80 million whites), France (54 million plus whites) and Britain (54 million plus whites), and you've hit 524 million, without even starting to talk about medium sized white nations like Canada (30 million whites), Spain (40 million whites), Italy (55 million plus whites), Poland (40 million whites), the Ukraine (45 plus million whites), smaller nations like Ireland (4 million whites), Sweden (9 million whites), Belgium (27 million plus whites), and "whites who live in the Diaspora" like South Africa (4.5 million whites), Mexico (10 million whites), and Bolivia (12 million whites). In fact, if you believe the figures put out by nations like Brazil, which claims 93 million citizens of primarily white, non-indigenous, non-African, non-mixed race descent, whites could be substantially more than the one billion I estimated. {Meaningless CIA jibberish, the only thing of theirs worth anything is the CIA guerrilla warfare manual for Contras in Nicaragua, a war we won against communists through propaganda and revolution. Freedom Fighters.}

When I see these actual trends and these actual figures and compare them to the figures put out by some of the over-the-top elements of the white nationalist movement,{name them, who's more over-the-top than you BW ?} I wonder what they are panicking about. While it is true the United States is suffering from a Third World immigration problem -- the problem is exactly that, one of immigration, not reproduction. {Join the Minuteman Project Bill White not the White Power Movement, you're in the wrong arena Bill White. You claim to love football, which I think sucks as it is a nigger sport now, even still you claim to have the Arena and the ball, but it doesn't matter because no one wants a quarterback who throws like a little girl.}

And while Europe is suffering from a much lesser immigration problem -- the problem over there is exactly that as well -- immigration, not reproduction. Non-whites are not mixing with whites and reproducing in any numbers that threaten the continuing existence of the white race. In stark contrast, its the black race that is most threatened with extinction at this point in time. {Bill White is NOT White Power, he's a non-believer, he's Black Power. BW joined the wrong party. If Bill White is allowed to include himself as "THE LEADER" in White Power you are all doomed to extinction. Bottom line if Bill White wins election for President he should be Assassinated.}
Blacks are shrinking in number, at times dramatically, in Africa, primarily due to AIDS. {Who Cares?} Blacks have always had the smallest population of any racial group in the world. {Whites are the smallest population BW, we are the world wide Minority} Their population growth in the late 19th and 20th centuries was fueled entirely by white colonialism and investment in their countries]{The obvious signs of Over Population, Starvation and desease} Entire areas of black nations -- and, in some cases, entire black nations -- face a threat to their existence. {You're talking about the extinction of negroes and denying whites the right to defend themselves and self-determination? Are you taking LSD again ?} Botswana, for instance, is predicted to disappear as its entire population dies of AIDS. Rhodesia has been suffering the early stages of famine since its appropriation of white farms. And South Africa, where AIDS will increase the white population from one tenth of the population to one ninth of the population in the next ten years alone, has proven that the natural inability of black people is much more a spark of genocide than any policy any apartheid or racist government ever had the courage to impose. {If we stop over assisting the negroes then nature will correct the imbalance. Don't get all emotional and cryover nature using death to cure an evil, it's part of the cycle of life. Denying that, denying natures law is the way of the jew.}

Internationally, the white race is doing as well as the Chinese or the Indian. {Internationally ? In what way ? Internationally the Chinese have over 1 billion people and close now to 1.4 billion. India has over 1 billion and continues growing with China. The both climaxed the 1 billion mark near each other historically India is the US counter weight to China in the region. Both sides outnumber whites right now, India was allowed to grow and even have nukes outside the non-nuclear proliferation treaty. As did Israel as well, but Pakistan jumped in with nukes of it's own, islamic nukes as a counter to India. The US backing Musharaf is backing the idea of a counter weight needed against India and China. If they don't follow the plan then Pakistan will jump in. Geo-politics s not your field is is BW ? Where does that leave Iraq, sitting beside the most fragile peace on earth, countries destined to make war on one another with nuclear weapons.}

There is no chance of it disappearing in the near future. So why do we read such dire predictions in white publications? {We need the predictions of doom and gloom because it's a true potential for hell if not countered, and also because it's a great tool for recruting people to join a struggle for survival rather than a publicity party like the Libertarian Socialists party of with yourself and an indian kid school shooter ( who was also named Weisse curiously, perhaps a injun relative of yours Billy Weisse ?) as the only members. Awareness and recruitment fliers should have the most important information and the 2% of the worlds population being 2% white women of child bearing age is the most powerful weapon in the arsenal. Why would you attack the approach to reaching new white people that has worked best of all, the propaganda line the jew hates most is also the approach Bill White hates most. Name the article you hate Bill White. Name David Lane as the target of your attacks in this article like a man instead of acting like a sissy who wet their pants. Say it, Name the Name and let it be known what side of this fence you're on.}

I can think of two reasons. One is that there are people who like to create panic when no panic is due. They like to see the white race as weak, when it is not. The Jews spread the lie of a weakened white race in danger of extinction as part of their campaign of anti-white psychological warfare; too many whites have internalized this Jewish view. And immigration is creating major shifts in population that give the appearance that non-white populations are growing, when, really, they are just being displaced. {Whites are shrinking Bill ? I thought you just said they were growing and in no danger, but let's hear how you want to say it and that's okay, rearrange the words some and call ii the Bill White Manifesto. Maybe you can make up your own version of 14 words too.}The second, and probably more appropriate to the discussion of Vanguard News Network's views, is the ridiculous exclusion of white people from the white race that some white nationalists feel the need to engage in. If you want to define the white race as only those of Germanic (English-German- Nordic) descent, then there are probably only 200 million or so "whites" left in the world -- which makes them comparable to any other ethnic-national sub grouping of the other major races. If you want to exclude "Slavs" from the definition of "white", you can do as Richard Barrett does {don't want to do as Barrett does, David Lane said he wasn't on our side and was probably a hater of whites like you, using another jew front to cover your jew front. Two fakes like you and Barrett arguing doesn't determine anything. Matter of Fact it was Barrett who exposed your name as Bill Weise, a jew. Perhaps this is why you have such a problem with VNN because they define a 1/4 jew as a jew. I support that also and will continue to defend VNN on that point whenever it comes up. I'm letting B-Levins slide some until I review his DNA records, but you Bill Wiese are proven a jew asset and not of our Revolution and it's time for you to dismiss yourself.} count the entire population of the countries that were once behind the Iron Curtain as "non- white", regardless of whether they are actually "Slavs", or, say, Germans who settled in Russia, Lithuanians, Livonians, et cetera, and then give a substantially reduced number for "whites". Now, I admit that I view the official demographic figures of Brazil with some suspicion, as the little I've seen of Brazil doesn't seem to indicate much of a "white" population, and I know the tendency of residents of Latin countries who are mestizo to exaggerate their "white" heritage, but then again I've never been there and perhaps, if there are 93 million whites living there, I should. But the fact that there are some populations that consider themselves "white" that might be better described as something else (the US government says the US population is 81.3% white, but includes Mexican and Latin / South American mestizos in that figure), does not make the exclusion of obviously white nations appropriate. {So Bill White knows the difference but writes lies anyway, is this to distract and mislead White Nationalists ? You betcha it is, and he's been caught many times, but here's one more time. 93 million White sin Brazil, you're crazy and this makes up for the 100 million you were over on your estimates. You only have to weed out 7 million non-whites faking world-wide to reach the same figures we use. If the facts don't support his side he just lies. I don't want just warm bodies Bill, I want Aryans to be secure in a Nation exclusively for White citizens only. What happens to the rest I don't care, you can have them for your website counters later, but they can't live in the White Nation or on our land. I know you sneaks already planned to include some strip of MUDD land to rule over but it's not happening this time. No Mudd Strip infesting out land for 1/4 jews like Bill Weise, nor slaves of any kind. The White Nationis a Freeman Zone, only White Freemen can live with us. This is in remembrance of our time sunder slavery of ZOG, and it will be memorialized by future citizens of the White Nation.}

After all, what does it mean to be white? The heritage that white people share goes much deeper than biology, ethnicity, or skin color. We have a common root civilization. We share linguistic, religious and cultural- traditional roots. Our nations are different manifestations of the same spirit. And it is that spiritual unity -- the unity of Aryan Tradition -- that brings us back together, where a few dozen generations of family ties have separated us into nations and ethnicities.

So what does a level headed analysis of world wide demographics foretell the world's race? What it predicts is the extermination of the black race in the manner which the mixing of races exterminated the majority of the indigenous peoples of the Americas.

The black race in the United States is slowly ceasing to be black, as it is absorbed into the majority white population and transformed into a new race of mixed black-white mulattos. {Those are whites being destroyed forever. The buildings and temples we can get back and rebuild, but we can never regain our pure blood once it has been mixed with non-whites. A bucket of white paint is pure white. Just one drop of black added will dilute and destroy it so that no matter how much white paint is ever added back to the mix it will never be capable of being as pure white as it was originally. This is the reason for the death of the Aryan race, death by admixture. We must defend and protect the bloodline, sacrifice all else to keep the blood.No crying for the deathof negroes when our own race is being mixed to death.} Coupled with the literal dying off of the black peoples of Africa, one can see developing, globally, a situation where the majority of "blacks" become the partially white mulattos of African America, with their black ancestors dwindling until the "pure" black race is left as a curious minority among their own people. Race-mixing in the US has taken a much stronger toll on black genetics than on white; one could theoretically see a time when the mulattos become so mixed with whites that their "black" ancestry becomes a remote memory -- something which has become completely genetically absorbed. {Aryans genes are recessive genes Bill, Whites will be diluted first and be extinct and the negroes will inherit the earth by default. Why are there no White Egyptians anymore class ? What about the Redheaded Mummy we called Ginger, what about Tacitus the Roman Scholar who wrote you will know the German people by their red hair. Yes red and blond are German exclusive traits, they are ours we are Aryan. If you have those traits one of your ancestors was a carrier of our traits. If you are an admixture you will carry these traits but if mixed with a non-white it will be gone forever. Two blue eyed parents have a blue eyed kid sometimes, both carrying the blue eyed gene. Also two brown eyed people descended from blue eyed parents may carry the gene 50/50 chance. It's possible they could have a blue eyed son or daughter because their parents genes they carried mixed, 25% chance. After that though it gets real slim that anyones going to pop back out with any blue eyes, it's nearly impossible unless the Aryan milkman stopped by.}

One only has to look at the indigenous Indians of North and South America to see how that process plays out. There are very few Indians in the United States who are not mostly white. {Here we go Indians in the NSM under Bill White, your witnessing it being proposed right here. No wonder Bill White is a champion of Mark Martin the Indian NSM Unit Leader previously exposed. Now we see why, Bill White is covering up for the NSM injun corps. I'd take my Aryan Blood to the grave before I'd donate it to the service of Zionism. Those mexicans you think look so white are not Aryan at all, rather they are jews who went to Mexico City to rule over the Indians. They had 35,000 dropped off in strategic areas of mexico to form ruling classes and enslave the Mexicans. They've bred in since then spreading jew blood all over the mexicans. They have jews in China too, same plans carried out by jew settlers.} Even whites who claim mixed Indian descent cannot usually claim more than an eighth or perhaps a quarter Indian blood. Similarly, in Latin countries, mestizos -- mixed white-indigenous or black- indigenous peoples -- have essentially exterminated the pure-blooded native populations. Now, while the Latin mestizo cannot be mistaken for white -- they have actually become a distinct race of their own -- they also cannot be mistaken for indigenous -- and thus the mixture of the two populations has left a half-white race, a white race, and nothing else -- and, perhaps most significantly, a white race that is capable numerically, if it would ever want to, of breeding the half-white race back into whiteness. {This sounds like the old plot they hatched to send white skinheads to Tijuana to have sex with Mexican hookers thus diluting the invasion of southern California by adding white blood to them. Race-Mixing is beastiality. Race-mixing is the weapon of the jew. Mexicans are not the issue it is the jew blood infested into the mexicans, otherwise they are just indians. Bill White is expressing the will of the jew when he preaches that the Mexican is a mixture of white and indian. The opposite is true. Mexicans are a mixture of Indians and Jews who race mixed. Race mixing is against the Aryan laws, but it is encouraged by organized jewry.Christopher Columbus who we have no records of heritgage said he came from Southern Italy and was accused of jewry. Either way he went to America and copied the name from another explorers notebooks, (plagerism) then he took the worlds largest fleet of slaves ever, over 5,000 indians to send to Southern Spain. The Spaniards who were mostly conquered by jews, niggers, and mixed before had need for mudd race concubines and breeders so they gladly accepted, and sent more ships to bring the indian women to Spain."}

So the demographic trends which are so depressing in the United States, and the upsurge of non-white racist government and racial persecution that has become common in South Africa, Rhodesia, and other former white colonies, is not a question of genetic failure to reproduce, but psychological failure to instill in white people a proper sense of themselves and a proper sense of value. Those white nationalists who continue to spread hysteria, instead of moving forward with confidence in the eventual triumph of our people and our world order, sabotage the white cause. The white race is neither weak nor dying. We have spent a few generations in remission, but that has not endangered our survival or put us in a place where we cannot reconquer the world if we so choose.

It was their failure to wake up quick enough to mount a successful defense of their race, and land. They became white refugees in formerly white nations. The white africans learned a lesson, Bill White has not yet learned. There are those who believe in Fight and those who believe in Flight. I'm a Fighter and the spirit in me that is Aryan is a fighting Spirit. If Bill Wiese is a jew he knows nothing of it. If Bill White is white then why has he turned his back on his own race just because we don't make him our King. I will not fight for you Bill White, nor wilI I encourage other honorable men to fight for you. We will fight and die ourselves, but not at your side. If it be 3 of us at the final battle who lived it in our hearts as Aryans we will meet Valhalla riding proudly and spill curses down upon you from the heavens. We can conquer the world but we aren't going to enslave everyone, We can save ourselves and our race from extinction, but it requires thankless dedication, highly motivated warriors, and commitment to Natures Law.

Bill White Quotes Concerning White Nationalists :

"I am not part of the white nationalist movement because white nationalism has nothing to do with the real betterment of white people - by and large. If I were to become part of them I would then be subject to judgement by their norms, and in all cases, because I am not a miserable failure or misguided as most of the self-defined members are, I would not be properly accepted?"

"I would be real upset about the losers, paranoid freaks and megalomanic self-appointed "elitist" weirdos in the "movement," if it wasn't for the fact that I am not part of the "movement," and thus am totally immune to any repercussions of their peculiar behavior."

"?white nationalism deserves to fail because the people involved in it are too stupid to deserve success, whether that be in their personal lives or their private lives. White nationalism is held back by the freaks defectives, and professional ignoramouses that make up not just its leadership, but much of its rank and file. I am not a white nationalist primarily because I would never want to be lumped in with the idiots who are."

"Most of the white nationalists who are in operation are miserable failures, both personally and professionally. You have petty criminals, porn hustlers, men who live with their mothers, men who can't hold jobs, women with four kids from four different fathers, etc. These folk range from liars to drinkers to thieves to grown men who are still playing at being in "gangs" to the whole list of dysfunctional and deservedly socially rejected people. I can understand playing at being a part of a subculture when you are 14 or 18 or even 21, but if you are 25 or 29 or in your 30's or more, and you are still trying to be "cool" by anyone's standards, you need to grow up."

"I hope most folk out there turn away from the losers and lowlifes of the white nationalist movement and look for constructive ways to build up first themselves, and then their communities."

"I don't like the white nationalist "movement" as a "movement"; it has the same decadent form of either of the two major political parties."

"I'm not a part of fantasy politics. I'm not a National Alliance member because I don't want to play at being a Nazi, and I have no desire to subject myself organizationally to people who aren't competent to judge me."

"?the idiot game that communists and Nazis play fighting each other, just provide more examples of just how idiotic these political fringe fantasies can get. I just want to let both sides know, however, that I'm not part of it. There is a reason you've never been comfortable with my website or my politics, and its not because I'm part of the other side. The reason I make you so angry is because I am above you, I am watching you, and I am mocking you because you are incompetent. I'm not "on the other team" I'm more of the sportscaster commenting except that unlike the sportscasters on TV, I hate both teams, and the reason people tune in is to listen to me rag on both of you.

"Just like there are people who's sport is football, my sport is fringe politics."

"If someone can name one white nationalist leader or commentator who is gainfully emplyed or who has a history of having built any kind of successful organization in any field, please let me know - outside of the conservative fringe of white nationalism, those people don't exist."

You know, we used to think for a little while that you were Dean Roberts (aka Kevin Myrick, a for real jew). Let me officially reposition on that: you are as bad at what you do as Dean Roberts. Get something straight: no matter how much you kiss ass to VNN, the leadership knows you are an informant. You work with and DEFEND Dean Roberts, the admitted jewish (oh sorry, adopted by jews) informant. You admittedly pass information along to the enemies of all white nationalist, let alone the NSM.

My only question is this: at what point did you stop to think "this is traitorous behavior, I should stop at this point or change tactics"? My guess is you never thought that thought or one even remotely like it. Dean's mad because he was a short, fat little jew with a phonebook-thick health record, surrounded by people who were everything he wished he was. I can understand that. I can't get behind it but I can see why he's upset. I know enough about how jews think have Dean figured out pretty well. You on the other hand, aside from your mental problems (supposedly pills keep you "level"), whats your excuse? I mean, there are some pretty good "Scott Robbins made a fool of himself with _____" stories out there but hardly anything that would send your average person off to work with Dean Roberts and the ARA types. Can all the jew-speak like "your heritics! How could you bring those symbols foward??" and give us some really good reasons. If you start on people's traffic tickets or past opinions, you might find yourself dodging bit and pieces of your glass house as I cast a rock through it.


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Posted : 09/11/2005 7:43 am
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You know, we used to think for a little while that you were Dean Roberts (aka Kevin Myrick, a for real jew). Let me officially reposition on that: you are as bad at what you do as Dean Roberts. Get something straight: no matter how much you kiss ass to VNN, the leadership knows you are an informant. You work with and DEFEND Dean Roberts, the admitted jewish (oh sorry, adopted by jews) informant. You admittedly pass information along to the enemies of all white nationalist, let alone the NSM.

Has Dean Roberts admitted to being adopted by Jewish parents? That would mean you were right on the Merrick v. Myrick divide.

Robbins is obviously just mad because we kicked him out, and a bit touched as well. I have trouble taking his ranting as being worth a serious reply.


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"[color="DarkRed"]Be radical, have principles, [color="darkred"]be absolute, [color="darkred"]be that which the bourgeoisie calls an extremist: give yourself without counting or calculating, [color="darkred"]don't accept what they call ‘the reality of life' and act in such a way that you won't be accepted by that kind of ‘life', never abandon the principle of struggle."

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Oh, and read National Socialist magazine.

 
Posted : 09/11/2005 10:12 am
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And what of these fairy tales of racial mixture in Spain and Columbus being a Jew flooding Southern Spain with Amerinds?

Southern Spain was never flooded with Amerinds, but it was overrun by Arab / Berber / Moorish types during the 8th century and through the 15th century, when they were all finally expelled (except for those that converted).

Southern Italy was also overrun by Arab / Berber types during the Dark Ages, though they were also, eventually, expelled, by the Normans.

And, of course, the Turks made it all the way to Vienna and the Mongols to Bohemia during their respective invasions of Europe.

Interesting to note, though, that many of the Arab / Berber countries / Moorish countries have been occupied by Nordic / Germanic / Celtic whites during various points in time -- whether the Greek / Roman dyansties in Egypt, the Vandal kingdom of North Africa (8th century), the Kingdom of Jerusalem, the Mameluk kingdom in Egypt and Palestine (the Mameluks were white slaves who overthrew the Arab / Berber Egyptian leaders), the Varangians in Byzantine and, even earlier, the Celtic settlements in Asia Minor.

Despite that, I still consider Slavic, Eastern European and Southern European / Mediterranean whites to be white, even though there are still modern reflections of the various invasions of Europe to find in some elements of their gene pools.


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"[color="DarkRed"]Be radical, have principles, [color="darkred"]be absolute, [color="darkred"]be that which the bourgeoisie calls an extremist: give yourself without counting or calculating, [color="darkred"]don't accept what they call ‘the reality of life' and act in such a way that you won't be accepted by that kind of ‘life', never abandon the principle of struggle."

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Oh, and read National Socialist magazine.

 
Posted : 09/11/2005 10:18 am
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VNN published something that said that? I happen to be 100% Irish, my family coming over here in the early 1900's, and my ancestors marrying nothing but fellow Irish after arriving, am I not considered white to VNN? This is disturbing if true. Where can I see a copy of that publication?

it's a lie, like many others that have been told of VNN at that website.

Bill knows that the article by TC Lynch which appeared in TAA was an old VNN main page review of the movie "Gangs of New York" by Scorcese, in which the natives hate and revile the immigrants-- who in that day were Irish. The movie, and the movie review, are damn good, and they have some interesting analogies to our time.

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/vnntaa2.pdf See page 12. You read it for yourself and come on back and tell us what you think.

A hundred years later, the issue in immigration is White v Non-White. The issue a hundred years ago was different. Irish are White, full stop, end of story. Neither Alex nor any other core VNNer ever called for the expulsion of Irish from America.

That doesnt mean we can't poke fun at the Irish, does it? We don't have too many sacred cows around here do we?


 
Posted : 09/11/2005 10:21 am
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That doesnt mean we can't poke fun at the Irish, does it? We don't have too many sacred cows around here do we?

Read the article AE. You do more than poke fun; you (TAA) call the Irish non-white and demand their expulsion from the US, if I recall.

That article has always been in shockingly bad taste, if nothing else. The Irish are as fully white as anyone.


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"[color="DarkRed"]Be radical, have principles, [color="darkred"]be absolute, [color="darkred"]be that which the bourgeoisie calls an extremist: give yourself without counting or calculating, [color="darkred"]don't accept what they call ‘the reality of life' and act in such a way that you won't be accepted by that kind of ‘life', never abandon the principle of struggle."

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Oh, and read National Socialist magazine.

 
Posted : 09/11/2005 10:23 am
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I just finished scanning the review in TAA#2. Butcher Bill respected the Irishman (that he killed) more than any other & I saw no aspersions cast against the Irish by TC Lynch.

I presume we are talking about page 12 of said TAA?


14 Words. 1 Path. Whiteway

Speech is NOT free, if it's vetted by PC.

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Posted : 09/11/2005 11:03 am
Antiochus Epiphanes
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Read the article AE. You do more than poke fun]

"TAA" didnt write the article. "you" ie "I" didnt write the article. TC LYNCH did.

That article has always been in shockingly bad taste, if nothing else. The Irish are as fully white as anyone.

Just say you dont like it Bill-- that doesnt mean it's "bad taste."

In case you were wondering-- yes I have Irish kin. In fact my first ancestor on these shores came from Ireland around 1745 and had an Irish name. He was a surgeon at Valley Forge. We think he was a Protestant though, all the kin from him were as far back as we can tell. I dont dislike Roman Catholics either considering that I am one. So how about you just admit, you lied about this? Here's the article. Go ahead and show me where it calls for thec contemporary explusion of Irish from the USA. That's a lie.

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/lettersOct-Nov03/111103lynchgangsofny.htm


 
Posted : 09/11/2005 11:11 am
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