Wouldn't help. Dick Cheney aims for the head. He must've been listening to G. Gordon Liddy.

Lol!

Dead-eye Dick Cheney: "What in the name of hell are *hic* you people talking about?!? I wasn't *pop* *pour* drinking any fuckin' *glug glug glug* beer!!

...*pfffffft* *brrrrraaapp*....Oops! ....ehh...heh heh...are farts supposed to be wet?"

My guess is that Pinnnacle Armor's sales of their "Dragon Skin" product is cutting into the profits of rich jew David H Brooks DHB Industries, the government contractorthat makes the only 'approved' Interceptor Body Armor.

Pinnacle Armor Dragon Skin vs. Interceptor Body Armor Continued...
Posted on Friday, February 17 @ 18:39:53 PST by davidc

by David Crane

DefenseReview has confirmed a report that Pinnacle Armor met with General James R. Moran, Commanding General, U.S. Army Natick Soldier Systems Center and Program Executive Officer Soldier (PEO Soldier), on January 17, 2006 in order to give him the opportunity to see the official DoD/military protocol test data on Pinnacle's SOV/Dragon Skin body armor. Upon viewing the data, Gen. Moran informed Pinnacle Armor that he would conduct his own ballistic tests on the Dragon Skin tech at only a civilian testing facility (of his preference) to lower test standards/protocols for the SAPI, ISAPI, and ESAPI plates that are below even civilian standards, not at a DoD facility to military test standards/protocols. We must say that General Moran's testing plans seem strange to us.

Why would PEO Soldier want to test the Pinnacle Armor Dragon Skin tech at a civilian test facility when the U.S. Army has two research and test facilities (ARL and ATC) very close to this civilian test lab? A Pinnacle Armor rep has informed Defense Review that Pinnacle Armor "asked to have the Dragon Skin armor as well as the current issue ESAPI armor tested at a DoD test facility side by side to DoD standards to which Gen. Moran adamantly refused."

Adamantly refused? Why? On what grounds?

It is confirmed that...

Gen. Moran now has in his possession ballistic test data/results clearly showing that Pinnacle Armor's Dragon Skin body armor has been tested to DoD standards and exceeded each standard and far exceeded the standards to which the plate technology is tested at a civilian test lab. Is the DoD/U.S. Army on testing SAPI, ISAPI, and ESAPI plates (ceramic hard armor) below civilian standards? We can only speculate as to why the DoD/U.S. Army would want SAPI, ISAPI, and ESAPI plates and/or Dragon Skin (or any body armor tech for that matter) intended for military use to be tested to less than civilian standards, when our infantry warfighters are facing military-level ballistic threats (assault rifles, machine guns, etc.) from the enemy. If the DoD/U.S. Army is testing the SAPI, ISAPI, and ESAPI ceramic armor plates to lower standards, this could at least partially explain the durability issues that they suffer on the battlefield, as well as the same limited coverage U.S. infantry warfighters have had for the past ten years.

It's probably time for some kind of Congressional intervention and oversight over ballistic armor procurement/adoption to ensure that our troops get the absolute best body armor available, anywhere. I think they deserve that. Right now, DefenseReview believes that the best anti-rifle level protection out there is Pinnacle Armor Dragon Skin. But let's make sure. Perhaps PEO Soldier and U.S. Army Natick would be willing to have an open side-by-side test of Dragon Skin vs. Interceptor at the ARL and ATC test facilities, with a panel of independent evaluators present. If the Dragon Skin body armor proves to be superior in those tests, perhaps we can at least give our servicemen and women the choice (Dragon Skin or Interceptor). Perhaps someone in Congress can look into Natick's procedures and protocols and try to at least verify PEO Soldier's and Natick's ballistic test results claimed for Interceptor body armor. The bottom line question has to be: Are our troops getting the absolute best armor available? Until PEO Soldier and Natick can prove otherwise, we don't think so. Based on what we currently know, we believe that Pinnacle Armor SOV/Dragon Skin body armor is hands-down superior to Interceptor body armor OTV with SAPI/ISAPI/ESAPI.

Here's what we know: Pinnacle Armor Dragon Skin has been in production since 1996, and is battlefield proven by almost every US Federal Agency. It's been proven in real combat engagements against real enemy threats. It is currently, hands down, superior to U.S. Army Natick's Interceptor body armor (Interceptor Multi-Threat Body Armor System ) with Small Arms Protective Inserts (SAPI)/ISAPI/ESAPI with regard to surface area of coverage, protection level (ballistic threat level and multi-hit capability), durability, longevity, and wearability. Note: If U.S. Army PEO Soldier and Natick Soldier Center/Soldier Systems Center have ballistic test evidence and/or field evidence to refute this, DefenseReview would very much like to see it. Dragon Skin is so durable that it can be dropped from a two-story window with no ill effects. You don't have to handle it with care like you do with conventional ceramic plates (ceramic hard armor plates). Dragon Skin's performance is guaranteed for the life of the warranty (6 years). When a standard-coverage Dragon Skin vest is compared to standard coverage Interceptor armor, Dragon Skin offers a greater coverage area at the same weight. When a full-coverage Dragon Skin vest is compared to Interceptor body armor with side plates attached, the same holds true.

Is the current playing field level? Is Pinnacle Armor getting a fair shot (excuse the pun) against U.S. Army Natick's Interceptor Body Armor? If not, will Gen. Moran and others at PEO Soldier/Natick level the playing field and expedite honest evaluation standards/protocols so that our infantry warfighters at least get the chance to choose an alternate technology like Pinnacle Armor Dragon Skin when they go into harm's way? Since our warfighters' lives are on the line, they deserve every viable option existent.

Defense Review is still in the process of trying to secure an interview with Gen. Moran, in order to get his side of the story. This is only fair. He deserves a chance to respond. With regard to Pinnacle Armor officials, we've already interviewed a company representative. We plan to publish excerpts from all interviews as soon as we can.

What (a lot) of "movement leaders" would that be? Please be specific if you can.

Yes Chrissy Drake Please be specific if you can I would realy like to know what movement types yoiu are speaking of ........other then that I will not coment on this thread .untill it is moved to HELMETS & HIP-BOOTS area
which is only a matter of time

Yes Chrissy Drake Please be specific if you can I would realy like to know what movement types yoiu are speaking of ........other then that I will not coment on this thread .untill it is moved to HELMETS & HIP-BOOTS area
which is only a matter of time

Since you are now on this thread, you are probably right. Its only a matter of time before its moved.

To the majority of people who voted that they would or did agree with wearing armor: Two-bit coward says you aren't movement types. The only movement is on the internet where he gives "no quarter" to NSM members. My greatest fear is that he can somehow use the internet to kill one of us. You all should equally fear him as well. Will an armored vest stop and internet-schoolgirl-flamer-war? Gosh I hope so. I would just have my feelings hurt if they weren't non-existent save ones for lost dogs, past women and lost children.

Its like this: I want to die like I've lived--in conflict of some sort. I would love nothing more than to be honored by a good death to compliment a good life. What I do want is a chance to drag as many thralls as I can with me should any situation turn fatal for your's truly. Is that a threat to anyone? Not at all. Its a statement of life-purpose. If my enemies would like to trade their lives for mine, then I respect that and I assure that I will demand a high cost for my life.

Wow. That was deep man.

By the way, the plural of "pussy" is pussies.

Body armor is for niggers.

Wow. That was deep man.

By the way, the plural of "pussy" is pussies.

Body armor is for niggers.

Another good point to body armor: its gets nigger rapers thrown in prison when they don't read the laws on it. That happened to one of them here recently.

Wow. That was deep man.

By the way, the plural of "pussy" is pussies.

Body armor is for niggers.

Uh-huh. And this from a guy whose av just happens to be a guy wearing a gas mask. What, afraid of a little tear gas yet not of bullets bouncing off your chest, Man of Steel? What an assinine remark. That's now the second time in this thread.

And as Doppelhaken said, "You first."

Wow. That was deep man.

By the way, the plural of "pussy" is pussies.

Body armor is for niggers.

Wow.

This gets my vote for "Idiotic post of the month" for April.

Of course, the month is still young.

Since you are now on this thread, you are probably right. Its only a matter of time before its moved.

To the majority of people who voted that they would or did agree with wearing armor: Two-bit coward says you aren't movement types. The only movement is on the internet where he gives "no quarter" to NSM members. My greatest fear is that he can somehow use the internet to kill one of us. You all should equally fear him as well. Will an armored vest stop and internet-schoolgirl-flamer-war? Gosh I hope so. I would just have my feelings hurt if they weren't non-existent save ones for lost dogs, past women and lost children.

Its like this: I want to die like I've lived--in conflict of some sort. I would love nothing more than to be honored by a good death to compliment a good life. What I do want is a chance to drag as many thralls as I can with me should any situation turn fatal for your's truly. Is that a threat to anyone? Not at all. Its a statement of life-purpose. If my enemies would like to trade their lives for mine, then I respect that and I assure that I will demand a high cost for my life.

I never said anything of the sort fathead
You are just so fucking pathetic

If you want to get an idea of how useful (and effective) body armour can be, check out the news accounts of the North Hollywood bank robbery where the perps wore full body armour.

Ya I saw some of that video.. unbelievable how effective the body armour was. And that was with body armor from at least 10 years ago. I've seen video from Iraq too, where a soldier gets hit by a sniper straight in the chest. It knocks him down, then he gets right back up and runs away.

A white nationalist organization should be using any advantage they can get. I'd personally wear even the level IV armor covering most of my body since I can't run very fast anyway. When I needed to move positions I'd motor bike or truck.

I'd personally wear even the level IV armor covering most of my body since I can't run very fast anyway. When I needed to move positions I'd motor bike or truck.

Might as well just drive a tank!

A tank would be pretty cool.
as to the debate here, I'll paraphrase Gen. George Patton and say that the mission is not to die for our country but to make the other bastards die for theirs.
Body armor is a luxury that I think we all should take advantage of if possible, even though it seems pretty expensive. Any advantage you can get on uncle zogbert shoudn't be turned down but utilized to the fullest.

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